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Why doesn't anybody re-enact Alabama football games?

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There is nothing more terrifying than when the Internet and the real world horribly collide.

You can learn a lot reading the RBR gameday threads. For example, at some point in the last couple weeks there was a mention of LARP which I had never heard of. A quick Google search later I knew more than I ever wanted to know about Live Action Role Playing. Of course, don't take this to suggest I was surprised by the knowledge of this phenomena, because I'm not that much of an old fogey.

After the first (and second) round of LOLs eased off I gave the whole idea of this a serious thought and that led to one or two interesting insights I thought you guys might find of interest.

To start with, there's not a heck of a lot new about the concept here. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of military reenactments will attest. Civil War reenactments are an increasingly mainstream phenomena with tens of thousands of people participating in the most popular events. And the impending 150th anniversaries of the conflict is sure to accelerate the process.

And the base idea is the same for LARPers; attempt to recreate a given event in real time. So why doesn't anyone ever do this for football games?

On the face of it, there seems to be no reason anyone wouldn't particularly in the case of Alabama football. There is a huge amount of interest in historical matchups and an increasing awareness of the period details involved and their importance to the given contests. In many cases the game records are good enough to even get pretty detailed in how to "script" the event.

Imagine putting together an Alabama game on a mock Denny Field from the 1920s. The historical research it would require would almost make the effort worth the hassle (not to mention the fact you could probably charge a pretty penny for folks to watch).

The main thing that keeps something like this from happening is the fact so many great games are available on video formats. Alabama's first commercially televised game was the 1951 Tennessee contest. By the 1960s, nationally televised Crimson Tide games were a pretty regular staple of the season (although teams were allowed only a limited number of appearances). Obviously today the rare game is one you can't find a way to see live.

But prior to that, there is little visual evidence for the contests and we mostly know about them from record books, newspaper accounts and the occasional grainy film clip. And, for many of the earliest contests, the event is rapidly fading from living memory. There would seem to be something of a need for some kind of historical preservation that reenactment enthusiasts cite as a key reason for participating in their hobby.

Think of the games that would be possible: the 1922 victory over John Heisman's Pennsylvania squad, the 1926 Rose Bowl win over Washington or, even better, the 1935 Rose Bowl triumph over Pop Warner's Stanford team (featuring a lanky end from Arkansas who everyone called "Bear"). I'd damn sure love to check out any halfway decent effort at recreating any of those contests.

Bottom line, though, I think the real reason people don't consider re-enactments of sports contests is that we look at them excursively as competition and, as such, only the most recent matchups are the ones that hold any "real" meaning. It's the same logic that fuels the dismissal of any team's achievement prior to this season/game/last play. The point is to constantly improve your performance and thus the achievements of the past are almost ancillary.

And besides, do you know anyone tough enough to portray "Bully" Van der Graff? I sure as hell don't. And even if you do, you are damn sure not going to find them at a LARP.

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Nice Idea...but it won't work

You already gave the reasons why. I would go see that but the 1920-1940s games would be almost impossible to figure all the plays that gave the final results. You could probably find the scoreing plays but all the other plays good luck. I would so go see those games.

(Disclaimer: This is The GTO Judge’s mobile posts so you are being warned of the following: The Judge can not spell and his grammar ain’t no good. In addition, these are the ramblings of a Lawyer/Rockstar/Crimson Tide fan with very little football knowledge outside of the SEC. One more thing, My Judge is Carousel Red not F’ing orange. I hate orange!)

by TheGTOJudge on Oct 27, 2010 7:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You would have to fill some of it in with guesswork

So obviously it wouldn’t be exact, but I think you could still get a close approximation, especially using period formations and plays. I think it would be well worth it.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 28, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

This has to be bookmarked...

…as one of the weirdest posts in RBR history. Weird in a good way, but weird.

by Nico2.0 on Oct 27, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions  

my work here is done.

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by kleph on Oct 27, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is how odd it was...

I couldn’t think of any way to twist it or spin it: It’s tortuous enough. Although, I would pay some good damned money to see this. So, if you make this happen, please let me know.

I believe, with my shitty knees, I can reprise the role of “Marquise Johnson v. DeCody Fagg 2007”

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

owwwwwwwwwwwch

i hated that game. it’s near the top of my list for a rematch.

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Oct 29, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was down in t town on business last spring

It was a warm, sunny day, and I saw a few people larping by the river on my way outta town

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 27, 2010 8:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

OMFG

it’s already a verb!

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Oct 27, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Already filed the appropriate copywrite paperwork

It’s mine! All mine! You can’t have it!
/channellingmyinnerdaffyduck

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 27, 2010 8:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

you know it existed before then!

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

check out

www.streetwithaview.com

some artists and hipsters and google earth folks got together. lest just say “streetview” images of Wysteria Way in Pittsburgh will never be the same (need a hint? there’s LARP’ers LARPing on google streetview right now. it is as amazing as it sounds)

In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem

take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck

by tempebamafan on Oct 27, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

and i ask you...

how can these people be any more insane and bizarrely devoted than alabama fans? honestly.

Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.

by kleph on Oct 27, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 28, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

LARP

I used to live across the street from a park and every Sunday morning these LARP guys (and gals) would be out there with their swords and shields and helmets just beating the snot out of each other. I didn’t know it was called LARP’ing at the time, but I knew it was odd just the same.

by Nico2.0 on Oct 27, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think it's odd,

Then it’s straight up batshit crazy. Which park?

"Fortune, as they call her, is a drunken and capricious woman and, worse still, blind; and so she doesn’t see what she’s doing, and doesn’t know whom she is casting down or raising up." - Gary Crowton to Les Miles

by Thomas Walker Esq on Oct 27, 2010 8:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isn't this what was in that movie Role Models?

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Oct 27, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now let us gingerly touch our tips

"I have tried to teach them to show class, to have pride, and to display character. I think football, winning games, takes care of itself if you do that." -Paul W. Bryant

by JokerBama on Oct 28, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was that LARPing or

SCA? Because I think even LARPers mock the SCA folks….

/yes, I’ve woven ring mail before, why do you ask?

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Caldwell Park... They are still out there.

"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood."- The Bear

by Bham03UAgrad on Oct 28, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

This was at Homewood Park...

…so they’ve either moved or it’s their rivals.

by Nico2.0 on Oct 29, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm down

i’d totally do it. they really did get to drink scotch before and during the games back then right? then yeah, i’m totally down….

In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem

take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck

by tempebamafan on Oct 27, 2010 8:53 PM CDT reply actions  

why doesn't this post have 11 recs allready?

In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem

take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck

by tempebamafan on Oct 27, 2010 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Lighting Bolt, Lighting Bolt, Lighting Bolt!

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Oct 27, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

i see what you did there...

mr Tosh

Tigers Hide and rooooll that TIDE!

by JiggaTide on Oct 28, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

magic missle, bitch!

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Oct 28, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you casting magic missile? there’s nothing to attack here

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 28, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m attacking the darkness, bitch!

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Oct 28, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with Tempe

If anybody wants to make this happen, I’m game. For some of us, it could be our only shot at glory.

"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
-Adam Savage

by DMaguire27 on Oct 27, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

TWSS

good LORD spock, can’t believe you missed that one

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Oct 29, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

And besides, do you know anyone tough enough to portray “Bully” Van der Graff? I sure as hell don’t. And even if you do, you are damn sure not going to find them at a LARP.

Or how about his brother Hargrove Van de Graaff who tried to rip his ear off to continue playing in a game against Tennessee?

But, the really bad ass brother was Robert Van de Graaff.

http://bama.ua.edu/~jharrell/PH106-S06/vandegraaff.htm

by Altie on Oct 28, 2010 3:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Robert was also one of the founders of the UA chapter of my fraternity,

Theta Tau engineering fraternity. He’s in the Theta Tau Hall of Fame. It’d be cool if we (the UA chapter) could get some type of marker or recognition for him on campus.

Odd that that article doesn’t mention that he spent the majority of his adult life as a professor at MIT. I went there once and they have his picture and bio up on the wall in the hallway in the main engineering building.

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Oct 31, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm down. Can I be Lee Ozmint?

And run back that extra point interception against LSU…? Wait, is he still running…?

by Jeff Jones on Oct 28, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I LARPed.

once. It was too nerdy for even me. Besides, I like to get laid on occasion.

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 9:15 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah man, w/ those intense metal playlists, i figured you had a larp in the closet! glad youre not a repeat offender!!

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Oct 28, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was the one you imagine too...Vampire

It did of course have its upside…

Consider this one of my preliminary confessions for LSU

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

dang, you should have saved that for the boogs!

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Oct 28, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we run the table, and the Boogs are undefeated, I've got another one in store...

LARPing, though horrifically embarassing, is — as you note — probably not unexpected from me!

First up, though. We’ve got to let it hang out (pun intended) for the Whos. That is the game of the century of the week. And, I expect nothing less than the usual very physical, close to vest, low-scoring, nasty big boy games these teams have put on over the past few years.

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Oct 28, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who gets to play Steve Beuerlein?

NOT me.

Oh, and it HAS to be the old uniforms if you go pre-1950.

"I have tried to teach them to show class, to have pride, and to display character. I think football, winning games, takes care of itself if you do that." -Paul W. Bryant

by JokerBama on Oct 28, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

MAKE.THIS.HAPPEN.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Oct 28, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Oct 28, 2010 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

We should make this happen...

…but with steak and scotch. Dinner theatre at its best.

by Queen of the Universe on Oct 28, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

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