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Tonight offers first glimpse of Tide Basketball

The Crimson Tide basketball season doesn't officially start for two more weeks, but the team will be hosting the first of two preseason exhibition scrimmages tonight as it prepares for its season opener on November 12th. Alabama is set to scrimmage NAIA Talladega College at 7:00 pm in a game that will be open to the public and streamed live on rolltide.com.

With only two weeks of practice under their belts, the team will hit the floor for the first time as a unit. While the outcome is irrelevant and Grant stated in his latest press conference that there would "be some experimentation", the scrimmage should nevertheless provide some clues to some burning questions about the Tide basketball team heading into the 2010-2011 season.

What is the situation at point guard?

Early indications from press reports, quotes from players and coaches, and comments from practice observers are that true freshman Trevor Releford has been very impressive. When asked about Releford's role specifically, Grant said, "I've never had any problem playing a freshman." I'll be surprised if Releford isn't the starter tonight. I've said all offseason that for better or worse we'll likely sink or swim with Releford as our starting point guard, and all indications point to this indeed being the case. Don't expect All-SEC numbers out of him, but if the hype coming out of practice is to be believed, he is at least capable of running the offense on this level.

Three other players will likely also see some time at the position, including returning sophomore Ben Eblen, junior college transfer Kendall Durant, and true freshman Charles Hankerson. All have been seeing time at the position thus far in practice. Grant will be looking for one if not two players that he can trust to run the point when Releford is on the bench, assuming that he is indeed in line for the starting position.

How ready are the newcomers in the post?

I fully expect to see our only two returning players in the post to be the starters when the season opener rolls around. Obviously, preseason coaches' All-SEC first-teamer JaMychal Green will be one starter, and Grant has gone out of his way to compliment the improvement and leadership shown by senior Chris Hines, who took over as a starter late last season in place of the now-departed Justin Knox. The big question in the post involves depth. With only the two players returning, Grant needs at least one, and preferably both of the newcomers to step up and provide quality depth.

Perhaps the biggest surprise of preseason practice has been the emergence of true freshman 7-footer Carl Engstrom. Practice observers have raved about his athleticism for such a big frame, and Grant has left little doubt to his status by confirming that "he'll play". Engstrom has only played organized basketball for two years, but his athleticism for a 7-footer is so rare that there will be no way to keep him off the floor. Expect to see him as the first post player off the bench early in the season, but it will be interesting to see how ready he is for big-time college ball. He could be a force on the defensive end from Day One. The other newcomer in the post is 6'8" true freshman Jason Carter. Carter has a nice skill set for a big man, but he graduated high school at an early age and thus will be one of the youngest players in the country playing college ball. The coaching staff will be looking to see in the preseason scrimmages if he's ready to play significant minutes in the post.

What role(s) will Hankerson play?

The most intriguing newcomer may be 6'5" true freshman Charles Hankerson, who can play any of the three perimeter positions. Think of him as one of those "athletes" who comes in for football and the coaches try them out at several positions. That's Hankerson. He was a prolific scorer in high school, and he's absolutely massive for a perimeter player. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever seen a perimeter player with as much muscle mass as he has--and he's only 18. He's seen a good bit of time at point guard in practice, but he's plenty big enough to play out on the wing, which might be his most natural position. It will be interesting to see how he's used and where he lines up.

What will the perimeter playing rotation look like?

Grant has been very quick to heap praise on senior Senario Hillman, and while some fans might not want to hear it, I'd bet anything that Hillman starts the season as our starting shooting guard. After all, Grant is known for emphasizing tough defense, and no one epitomizes that more than Hillman. Then there's sophomore small forward Tony Mitchell, fresh of an All-SEC Freshman team performance last season. Reportedly he's added a good bit of muscle in the offseason and looks poised physically for a big leap this season. He'll almost certainly start on the wing.

Veteran guards Charvez Davis and Andrew Steele would normally get the first look off the bench, but the sharpshooter Davis is out for a few weeks after hernia surgery. Versatile newcomers Durant and Hankerson will complicate matters, as both are capable of playing multiple perimeter positions. It's hard to predict what the rotation will look like, with Steele, Durant, Hankerson, and even Mitchell capable of playing on different spots on the floor. We may not get any solid answers to this question tonight, though, as Grant is likely to spread the minutes equally in the scrimmage, and Davis's absence may shake things up. That said, seeing which players come off the bench first and what positions they play may offer some clues.

Hopefully the scrimmage will offer answers or at least clues to these questions and others as we near the season opener on November 12th.

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by Slice of Life on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Matt.

Awful hard to find any good b’ball news before January. I’m looking forward to this season; hoping to see some big improvements. RTR!

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

wow!

I hope you are right… I was definitely impressed with him last year

The Process of Champions

by atcrawford on Nov 2, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Appears, from the names you mentioned, we'll have the element of suprise!

"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"

"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph

by thecalicocat on Nov 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions  

hahaa! but, I dont think Carl Engstrom is even capable of sneaking up on someone

towerofbammer.com: "full of factual inaccuracies"

by Alabama ManDance on Nov 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

a couple of family ties

Kendall Durant is Kevin Durant’s cousin (played one year at TX and had his jersey retired)
Trevor Releford is Travis Releford’s brother (red-shirt soph at KU)

I always find these kinds of things interesting. Kind of like how Javier Arenas was Gilbert Arenas’s cousin.

It doesn’t really mean anything, but it’s cool nonetheless.

The Process of Champions

by atcrawford on Nov 2, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Matt

I think we with Green and Mitchell we have a couple of guys that can make this team very solid. As far as Releford, we will have to wait and see. Very interested to see Engstrom on the court.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Nov 2, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like we should at least have some better depth than last year

I’m just looking for some improvement in the 2nd half. I don’t want to see us completely let off the gas.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Nov 2, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Excellent job, Matt...

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Was thinking we were in for another rebuilding year . . .

but in reading about this team I am thinking we might be able to cause some noise IF Releford can get it done at point. The additions give us quality players (and some depth) at every other position. Hines emerged in a way that made Knox (a UNC transfer) expendable and we have a 7footer behind him. Green could possibly be ready for that McDonalds AA type year. We have a SR SG who is a super athlete and some intriguing depth behind him MItchell has All-SEC type potential. Admittedly, those are a lot of “ifs” but the second year under a coach can be magical and Grant at least has some raw material to work with. Bring on BBall!!

by Son of Roaring Dan on Nov 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I hope the freshmans are ready!!!

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

they are in for a rude awakening to see Grant's coaching style

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Nov 3, 2010 6:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great information.

The only thing I really know about b-ball is winning in Nov. Dec. means nothing. Winning in Jan. Feb. means everything.

I understand hate. I'm a Bama fan.

by Destindune on Nov 2, 2010 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Nov 2, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're not very likely to win the conference.

And if the conference is down this year like it was last year, a good OOC showing would help us a lot in getting into the NCAA. If we had held on to beat Purdue last year, we probably would’ve at least made the NIT.

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't work quite like that

The SEC season champ gets little more than a pat on the back and a #1 seed in the conference tourney. Only the SEC tournament champ gets the automatic bid to the NCAA tourney. All of those conference games are important, of course, but the away games and neutral site tourney games in Nov and Dec are crucial for putting together a portfolio for the Big Dance.

We haven’t been to the NCAA tourney since spring 2006. We’re gonna need everyvictory we can muster in every month of the season to get back in.

by toofull on Nov 2, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I just remember Hobbs winning just about every game in Nov. and Dec.

and winning 4 or 5 in Jan. and Feb. My point is I would rather win all the conference games and 4 or 5 of the ooc for a change. As far as the pat on the back thing can you name a SEC regular champ that did not go to the tourney? I don’t know just wondering. I would bet there is not one.

Roll Tide.

by Destindune on Nov 2, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

can you name a SEC regular champ that did not go to the tourney?

Yeah, that’s why I didn’t mention the tourney vs reg season distinction. An SEC regular season champ would’ve had to have been really putrid in OOC to not get invited to the NCAA.

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doing a little more leg work…

Since the NCAA expanded to 64 teams in 1985, there has not been an SEC regular season champ who did not go to the NCAA tourney. Not to say that it couldn’t happen, but it would be difficult.

Also, only 3 times has a DIVISIONAL winner failed to make it to the NCAA, and all were split divisional titles:
2007 Mississippi State and Ole Miss
2009 South Carolina and Tennessee
2010 Mississippi State and Ole Miss

Going further back (pre-NCAA tourney expansion), as far as I can tell the last time it happened was in 1974 to Alabama, when the tourney only had 25 teams.
(NCAA tourney started in 1939 with 8 teams)
1939 UK
1940 UK
1941 Tennessee
1943 Tennessee
1944 UK
1946 UK
1947 UK
1950 UK
(Tourney had somewhere between 22 and 25 teams from 1953-74)1954 UK
1956 Alabama
1959 Miss St
1960 Auburn
1961 Miss St
1962 Miss St
1972 Tennessee
1974 Alabama

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on who you beat and who you lose to.

You could be a fringe team, but if you have some impressive wins and some understandable losses, you will be fine.

by Mr. Abe Froman on Nov 3, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank God it's basketball season..

I have nothing else to watch or worry about.

Just giving y’all a hard time.

Nice to “meet” your aquaintance Matt. I should say (shudder) I grew up a UAB Blazers fan.

/ducks head and runs away like Cam newton and a laptop.

Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is. - Josey Wales

by The GTO Judge on Nov 2, 2010 3:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Matt's been here a long time (longer than my 10 months anyway). He used to have a different moniker.

I too grew up going to Blazer games, and I still cheer for them, even though some of their fans are idiots.

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you calling me an idiot?

Allright, I do agree that some UAB fans are idiots.

(Disclaimer: This is The GTO Judge’s mobile posts so you are being warned of the following: The Judge can not spell and his grammar ain’t no good. In addition, these are the ramblings of a Lawyer/Rockstar/Crimson Tide fan with very little football knowledge outside of the SEC. One more thing, My Judge is Carousel Red not F’ing orange. I hate orange!)

by TheGTOJudge on Nov 2, 2010 4:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nah. I should say they're more of just an annoyance. (Not you, the rabid Blazer fans

who want to blame UA for all their problems.)

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you calling me an idiot?

Allright, I do agree that some UAB fans are idiots.

(Disclaimer: This is The GTO Judge’s mobile posts so you are being warned of the following: The Judge can not spell and his grammar ain’t no good. In addition, these are the ramblings of a Lawyer/Rockstar/Crimson Tide fan with very little football knowledge outside of the SEC. One more thing, My Judge is Carousel Red not F’ing orange. I hate orange!)

by TheGTOJudge on Nov 2, 2010 4:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn phone post

Okay I’m an idiot.

(Disclaimer: This is The GTO Judge’s mobile posts so you are being warned of the following: The Judge can not spell and his grammar ain’t no good. In addition, these are the ramblings of a Lawyer/Rockstar/Crimson Tide fan with very little football knowledge outside of the SEC. One more thing, My Judge is Carousel Red not F’ing orange. I hate orange!)

by TheGTOJudge on Nov 2, 2010 4:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 2, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newcomers in the Post

Matt: I’m skeptical how much of an impact Engstrom and Carter will be able to make once the competition picks up. No doubt they will play, but how many minutes? I’ve been thinking that if Hines or Green were injured, in foul trouble, etc. then Grant may decide to go to a smaller line-up with Green or Hines in the middle (something like a 4-out-1-in). Tony is quite capable of hitting the glass for rebounds in a smaller line-up if necessary as is Andrew, and you’ve already pointed out how strong Hankerson is. I’m hoping Engstrom and Carter are ready from day one, but I have a feeling they will need some time to transition to the college game. Any thoughts?

Also, my opinion is that Senario will have a solid senior season. It’s been a series of ups and downs for him during his career but I do think Grant’s system plays to his strengths. While his numbers were down a year ago, I thought he was a better overall player. His shot selection was improved, he made better decisions with the basketball (I believe he was second on the team in assists) and he continued to be arguably the best defender on the team.

by Mitchell Smilie on Nov 2, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I love senario.

He reminds me of gee, but as a point guard. However, he easily makes some of the worst decisions on our team. He turns the ball over way too much, and takes some bad shots. But when that kid is on, our whole team is better. I think he is the key to this team outperforming our expectations.

by Mr. Abe Froman on Nov 3, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i loved him

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Nov 3, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great stuff, Matt

I hear the basketball team is a bit more athletic, despite the youth. I can’t wait to see this team. Any likely pre-season tourney-style action would be a good place for them to cut their teeth. Will try the stream, also. Talladega College isn’t too far removed from a NAIA title, are they? They really used to nab some unknown guys and do well with them, at their division level.

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Nov 2, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I didn't get to see the game, but heard that Releford did indeed start.

Any insights? Anyone?

If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.

by CarrotTop4 on Nov 3, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

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