Initial Impressions from the LSU Game

A few thoughts from the early aftermath of the Tide's 24-21 loss to LSU:
- Busted flat in Baton Rouge, it would seem. We've written for weeks here at RBR that we would find out for certain what this team was made of when we made the road trip to play LSU, and I'm afraid to say that indeed came to fruition. Unfortunately, the returns simply are not what we had hoped for. We are not a bad team by any stretch of the imagination, but having said that we are not really a particularly good team either, and we are certainly nothing resembling a great team (no matter how loosely defined). No offense to LSU, they clearly deserved to win yesterday afternoon, but had we really been as good as we had all hoped (and some expected), we would have won this game with no great difficulty.
- In hindsight, we arguably lost this game in the first half, or at the very least allowed a golden opportunity to deliver an early knockout punch to slip through our hands. LSU played poorly early in the game, gaining only 45 yards of total offense on their first five drives, while Tiger Stadium had the collective atmosphere of a high school jamboree game. Unfortunately, we matched their incompetence blow-for-blow, and instead of seizing control in this game when we had the chance, we went into halftime with a meager 7-3 lead and allowed LSU to live to fight another day.
- In the final analysis, turnovers played a very big role in the outcome in the outcome of this game. We could not force a single LSU turnover -- how is that even possible with Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee at quarterback? -- and the Bayou Bengals picked up ten points off the two Alabama turnovers, staking out an early 3-0 lead with the interception on the tipped ball and taking a commanding ten-point lead in the final minutes with the Greg McElroy fumble. You will not lose the turnover battle and win close games with any degree of consistency, and if nothing else we were given a first-hand illustration of that harsh reality yesterday afternoon.
- After injuring his left foot on the early touchdown catch, Trent Richardson never really returned to the game in any meaningful capacity. He registered only one carry after the injury, and his absence hindered the offense. Mark Ingram looked better after the bye week, but Richardson looked a bit better in early action, and if nothing else Richardson would have probably been a better choice at times in the second half when we were getting beaten physically at the point of attack. Unfortunately, the question now becomes whether or not he can play next weekend, and given how limited he was in the second half of this game I'm afraid you have to say that his availability may be in doubt against Mississippi State.
- Drake Nevis... I hope you at least tipped William Vlachos extra at the end of the night. Nevis consistently annihilated Vlachos and everyone else we put in his path, and he was the key to the LSU defense. He was the driving force behind their success against our running game, and it was his presence that made all of those interior blitzes so effective. We haven't had a center thumped quite like that since Taylor Britt was in the starting lineup against Auburn in 2005. And speaking of Auburn, given the caliber of player they have in Nick Fairley, Gene Chizik and Ted Roof will probably need some alone time after watching Nevis eat our interior offensive line for dinner. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nevis has played as well as Glenn Dorsey was hyped to be in 2007 but never actually was. Dorsey never gave us anywhere near the problems that Nevis gave us yesterday afternoon.
- In what has become a routine talking point in these initial impressions pieces, our offensive line was once again consistently dominated in the running game. The line generally did well enough in pass protection, relatively speaking, but the running game was a fight for every inch. The occasional run garnered success, but the success rates on interior runs were incredibly low. The majority of the success we had in the running game came on the outside, and it's hard to build the entire running game around that when the opposition has so much speed. We tried to run it in between the tackles, but more often than not it was simply a wasted down. We replaced Mike Johnson and Drew Davis with adequate players who were arguably upgrades, but even so for whatever reason the line play has just not been the same this season. Nevis played a big role in our struggles yesterday and he deserves to be called out for his great play, but I'm afraid this has been an ongoing issue for 'Bama for quite some time now. To pin all of our struggles at the point of attack yesterday afternoon solely on the great play of Nevis would be ignore the issues we've had in recent weeks before playing LSU.
- The biggest surprise of the afternoon? The fact that our coaching staff was seemingly asleep at the wheel on a handful of trick plays from Les Miles and company. Who really did not see the fake punt coming? And on a 4th and 1, after calling a timeout, exactly who in the holy hell really thought Les Miles was going to call a tailback dive into the line of scrimmage? How coaches the caliber of Nick Saban and Urban Meyer have been played like fools with his antics this year I'll never know.
- A hat tip of the houndstooth fedora is in order to Julio Jones, who had yet another fine performance. He had ten catches on the afternoon -- almost more than the rest of the team combined -- and if nothing else he consistently beat Patrick Peterson all evening long. It's a shame to see that his career in Tuscaloosa is coming to a close, simply because we'll probably never have another receiver with his unique combination of elite physical ability and general humility. In an era dominated by insufferable, egotistical wide receivers, Julio Jones is a breath of fresh air.
- The defense played very well in the first half, but the second half was a complete and total collapse. From the opening play of the third quarter through the deep completion to Reuben Randle to deliver the dagger through the heart, the LSU offense ran 38 plays for 326 yards (8.5 yards per play). And when you play so poorly one of the worst offenses in the country turns into a juggernaut before your eyes, what do you even say? How can you allow an offense that has been that bad for so long rack up 21 points and 300+ yards in a half without so much as breaking a sweat? The final seconds notwithstanding, the only time the LSU punter saw the field in the second half was to run a fake. Again, though, to reiterate what has been written in this piece in previous weeks, there really is no use blaming one thing in particular because we have not done anything consistently well this season on the defensive side of the ball. We are just not a very good defensive football team this season, and that harsh reality once again reared its ugly head in the second half.
- I suppose at this point you could consider dates with our defense to be rehab for bad, ineffective, and uninspiring quarterbacks. First it was Stephen Garcia, and now you can add Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee to the group. Please don't let Chris Relf be next. It's easy to say that quarterbacks of their caliber aren't very good, and while that's true, this is the SEC and when you consistently allow receivers to run free, these guys will make those throws more often than not. We ain't playin' 'gainst the WAC here, folks, you're actually going to have to make some plays in your own right instead of just hoping your opponent will give you gifts for sixty straight minutes.
- Blown coverages were once again a major problem in the defensive backfield. The 75-yard touchdown pass to Randle was the result of a busted assignment on a zone coverage by Dre Kirkpatrick, and the back-breaker completion to Randle in the closing minutes was the result of DeMarcus Milliner inexplicably jumping on an underneath route on 3rd and Vicksburg. Clearly we have issues in the defensive front seven to boot, but at some point you are going to have to be able to cover people on the back-end, and we simply have not been able to do that with the consistency needed this season.
- The biggest defensive concern I had coming into this game was the interior run defense against Stevan Ridley, but believe it or not we actually stopped the interior running game for a change. LSU tailbacks barely averaged 3.5 yards per carry on 32 rushing attempts, but unfortunately our lack of containment killed us in the end. LSU picked up 70 yards on end-arounds and jet sweeps to wide receivers, Jefferson picked up 27 yards on his own, and Jasper picked up another 23 yards on the fake punt. It was three yards and a cloud of dust with the tailbacks, but all of the other carries averaged over ten yards per pop. Sometimes stopping the run on conventional rushing attempts between the tackles is simply not enough.
- The people continuously fretting over the possibility of Jim McElwain leaving Alabama for a head coaching job may as well at this point spend their time and energy worrying about whether Robert Brantley will leave Alabama to run for president. The Alabama offense has not been bad this year by any stretch, but it has been nothing special, and given the amount of talent and experience we have on the offensive side of the ball there is not likely a single offensive coordinator in the nation who has gotten less out of more this season than Jim McElwain. Now, all of this junk about whether or not McElwain should be fired is garbage, but even so you can rest assured he'll never prominently highlight his 2010 offense on any future resume. This season has not been his finest hour. When an offense with this much talent, depth, and experience consistently struggles to get above 21 points a game, something is not right.
- All of the outcries from some over a supposed lack of intensity are simply misplaced. We played very hard yesterday afternoon, and as you would hope our level of energy and effort rose to the meet the occasion at the very end when our backs were against the wall. At the end of the day, though, a lack of effort and intensity is simply not the issue. We play hard, but playing hard is not necessarily playing well. You have to play hard and play well. It's not an either-or proposition.
- In so many ways, this game succinctly summarized the entire season in sixty minutes. Flat performance? Slow start? Struggles to establish the run? Defensive breakdowns? Inability to rush the passer? Poor tackling? Inability to get off the field on third and long? Close games? If you were to look back at this entire season and choose one game that would define the entire season, this would be the game you pick.
- In hindsight, as I wrote a few weeks back, perhaps we should just all recognize that this whole notion of "reloading" is largely garbage. Perhaps that was true at one point in time, but look at how that has worked in in recent years. Texas followed up a national championship in 2005 with back-to-back 9-4 seasons, and Florida followed up a national championship in 2006 with an 8-5 season. LSU won a national championship in 2007 and went 8-8 in conference play the next two seasons. And, look at how Florida and Texas are faring this season. The Gators have fielded arguably their worst team in years, and after getting thumped by the likes of UCLA, Iowa State, Baylor, and Kansas State, the Longhorns will have to pull at least one upset in the final three weeks to even make a bowl game (and by that I mean a bowl game in Shreveport, literally). By comparison, our 7-2 start looks quite envious. That's kind of the issue with overly complaining about our fortunes this season, it could be much worse. Head on over to Shaggy Bevo if you don't believe me, or, hell, just read the meltdown piece Tuesday morning.
- Do we now have a quarterback controversy on our hands? The offense is middling, we'll need a boat load of points to beat Auburn, any realistic hopes of a national championship or a BCS berth have ended, and after the game Greg McElroy was limping with an ice pack on his knee. Maybe nothing comes of it and McElroy finishes the year, but it would be disingenuous to ignore it entirely at this point.
- Unfortunately, for now we are reduced to merely playing for pride and hopefully being the spoiler for Auburn. Having said that, though, we've got a lot to play for, and the downside will be ugly if the poor performances continue over the final one-third of the season. Beating Auburn will unfortunately be a stretch at this point, but Mississippi state is a solid team in their own right coming off of a bye week, and with the recent death of Nick Bell, you can rest assured they will play with intensity. Moreover, on a more practical note, if we have another performance like we had yesterday against LSU, the Mississippi State game will likely at least go down to the closing minutes, and Auburn will likely blow us out the water. Keep in mind that if we run the table we can probably get to Orlando and perhaps finish up 11-2, but if we lose to both Mississippi State and Auburn, we could fall to fifth in the SEC West and end up in the Liberty Bowl. Yesterday afternoon was quite obviously frustrating and discouraging, but we've got to rebound quickly or things will become much worse.
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I don't like the spoiler role....
let’s leave that to the barners (pre-2010). Let’s focus on 2011. A true process does not have room for “not hurting someone’s feeling.” If McElroy was half the man he claims to be, he would bench himself for the chance that someone else could do better. His ego won’t permit that.
"Everybody will have more fun, guys, if we play with more intensity" Coach Saban... halftime speech of UT game, perhaps the turning point of the season..
you can say what you
want about McElroy but I don’t think quitting, so the next guy can play makes you a man. McElroy plays safe football. But safe football has come at the expense of losses this year. Last year we could afford to lose field position but not this year. Honestly, I blame this more on McElwain than G-Mac. When was the last time we saw a “new wrinkle” in this offense? It’s such a shame that we are going to go the entire season and never see the true potential of all this offensive talent.
I don't know any self-respecting competitor who would bench himself.
Those are the decisions the coaches are paid to make. Criticize the performance but not the man.
"Don't let the bastards get you down." - Nick Faldo to Greg Norman at the conclusion of the 1996 Masters.
Not Gmac's decision.
It is not Greg’s decision to Bench himself. That is the coach’s decision. And certainly in this case. I would be opposed to benching him, now that the losses have come about, but I would certainly use AJ much much more, enough to make a difference. But yes hindsight reveals that AJ should have played much more than he did throughout the season. And yes if he was doing well enough to be obviously outstanding, he should have been the starter. And yes I think that this offense was a total under achiever.
Agreed with Ibdasdog, Paranormal, and BobM,
and would just add, what would GMac benching himself add to the team. Your leader quits, why not the rest of the team? Not only that, but one of the things that makes the QB system work is competition for the starting spot. If Saban says, “Boys, it’s any man’s spot right now, fight it out,” I’m totally cool with that at this point. But if GMac benches himself and gives it to McCarron, it’s not only bad for team morale, but will hurt McCarron’s development as well, in that he won’t have the competition to make himself better.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I’m not against starting McCarron IF the coaching staff thinks he gives us the best shot and he’s earned it. But we definitely can’t have players quitting on the team.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Liberty Bowl?
Nah… I don’t see it. Chick-Fil-A at worst. Kentucky or Georgia probably if they make it.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
Good writeup
but if we win out we will have a decent chance at a BCS bowl I’d think. You have to assume that the Pac-10 gets an at-large (probably Stanford) and two go to BSU and TCU, leaving one more. If two out of Ohio State, LSU (Arky looked good last night), and MSU lose one more game we could get in. That is something to play for, though I don’t want us to forego future development in the process. And this:
the back-breaker completion to Randle in the closing minutes was the result of DeMarcus Milliner inexplicably jumping on an underneath route on 3rd and Vicksburg
What in the HELL was he doing? No excuse for that and, with the way the offense had just driven the ball, that may have cost us the game.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
What in the HELL was he doing? No excuse for that and, with the way the offense had just driven the ball, that may have cost us the game.
I just have no idea what he was thinking……I mean, there wasn’t even a receiver in the area to “jump”…….I think the truth is that the boy is a true freshman, and like the old saying goes, for every true freshman you start, you can count on one loss…….I believe that Milliner will be a good player, but this year he is a straight up liability……..I wonder why the coaches think that DM is a better choice at corner than Phelon Jones……a speed issue maybe?…….OTS?
Oh and incidentally.......
I agree with you about the offense…….I said to my buddy’s yesterday just after the game that I felt that if we could have stopped the 3rd and 13, we drive down and win the game……no doubt in my mind…..
You know...
what’s even MORE upsetting is the play of Dre Kirkpatrick. He’s got solid experience under his belt and I saw him as being a huge leader for the secondary this year along with Barron. But he’s had almost as many breakdowns this year as the true freshman Demarcus. Both obviously still have time to improve and become the all stars they should become, but on the season, Dre’s been extremely dissapointing.
by d12 on Nov 7, 2010 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
^This
I believe the same thing – even though we didn’t play a great game overall, we could have (& I believe would have) won the game if we could have stopped them on 3rd & 13 -a true freshman coverage mistake cost us that game in my opinion. We knew that that was our weak spot going into the season & just didn’t make enough progress in that area over the course of the season to overcome it.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Mark Ingram.
If McElroy is the QB vs Auburn
And I think he will be, lets hope he plays well just for a class purpose. I remember Tyler Watts last iron bowl getting boo-ed when he came out and BDS filling with chants for Brodie. After only losing 2 games to this point and leading us to the NC last year I would hate to see McElroy’s career in BDS come to a close like that. But if he isn’t able to make the plays I don’t see him avoiding that.
Right on to everything you said. I really appreciate you pointing out Julio....
I love his play AND his demeanor. What at great team player he is.
I don’t see (skycaster) that McCarron would be doing any better, not with his skinny ass on the ground.
Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame
pulling your hair out....
The amount of talent on offense is mind-boggling. I really don’t understand how losing just two offensive linemen from last year made our run blocking so bad. How does that happen? Julio will really be missed next year. He is a once in a lifetime talent. He has a team first attitude that we really don’t appreciate. Years from now, we will look back and realize how special he really was.
by Objective Bama Fan on Nov 7, 2010 12:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
We haven't wasted JJ we did win it all last year. But yes he will be missed
we finally got a 5-star who lived up to the hype with him.
Hold my beer and watch this.
Julio will be the
best Bama receiver for years to come. Stats just don’t tell the story on him. Likewise, I just wonder if we will ever see the likes of an Ingram and a Richardson on the same team? They all got a ring, but it could have been so much more.
But…it is a team game and it is very, very hard for a team to have 3 great years in row. We actually have had 2 in row so an off year was to be expected.
Still, Saban said “this wasn’t the end, this was the beginning” and I hope we finish up strong, recruit strong, and get ready for next year…we should actually be better in 2011. And thankfully a little under the radar.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
They needed help from the D yesterday
I would have to look but this might be the first game that we did not get a turnover or interception. I kept saying that Lester and Dre were over due a pick and we never got one.
Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame
by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that
at least with the fake punt, I think everybody except for Nick Saban and the team knew there was going to be a fake punt. Why they weren’t expecting it, I don’t know.
Maybe not so much with the 4th and 1 run, but at least with the fake punt, there’s no reason we shouldn’t have been prepared for it.
I feel like this will be the year Bama's defense talks about as a learning experience ala 2007.
By 2012 our defensive preformance should be dominate with Milliner and Mosely. Hopefully we don’t get back into a scenario where we have to depend on freshmen to make plays. And maybe we can land another safety like Clinton-Dix and he doesn’t pull a Keenan Allen on us.
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Good analysis OTS spot on….we suck on D and underachiev on offense. Were always on the goat end of a trick play and screw us for not taking those same chances in a game when it’s on the line.
Hold my beer and watch this.
Well we didn't need to try any trick plays
We’ve done a terrible job any time we try something like a fake kick. But as poorly as our defense was playing, I was surprised we didn’t try an onside kick at the end.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Which raises a question:
how in the world do some teams like LSU ALWAYS hit the fake plays, but Alabama never seems to be able to do it – no matter the team, no matter the coach – I can’t remember a year where the team was consistently good with them. I don’t want to see them often, or anything – I generally prefer straight up football – but I would like us to be able to make them work when we do try them.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
You are so right, tricks NEVER have worked for us....ever. I don't know what the deal is
but it must be our karma or I don’t know what but history says Bama is streight up kickass, no fluff.
Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame
by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
And I know we had that great wildcat play with Maze
But we were already whipping up on Florida and we see now what kind of competition they were. Besides, I don’t feel like it’s a “trick play” in quite the same way as a fake kick, because defenses should always be prepared for the possibility of the guy getting the snap throwing the ball.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Wildcat is no longer tricky to anybody, thanks to Tim Tebow, Mark Ingram, Trent
Cam Newton. It’s just another play now.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
You guys are too old for this
but back in Coach Bryant’s day we were the master of the trick play. The tackle eligible was our favorite and nobody ever covered it. We also ran the double pass back to the qb for a score in Bluebonnet Bowl that helped us tie Oklahoma. There were other times we would line up with our o-line spread all over the field. It wasn’t all smoke and mirrors but Coach Bryant was not afraid to roll the dice. Even the Utah-pass (the shuttle pass) was pefected by Bryant, we called it the Whoopee Pass.
But… Byrant had confidence that if the offense messed up running a trick play the D would step up and shut the other team down anyway. By the way, mister conservative, Gene Stallings would roll the dice too. I remember us running a fake punt out of our own end zone right before half in game we were losing to (I think it was) Ole Miss. We made it, then scored and went on to win the game.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
I've heard tell of such thangs.
I jest ain’t never seen ‘em with my own two eyes. That’s all I’m askin’ fer.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
You hit the nail on the head, OTS
Like you, after the lack of intensity after the SC loss, I began to wonder who was gonna step up and right the ship. It never happened. Playing just well enough to win against lesser competition won’t get it done. There have never been any easy games in Baton Rouge…ever. We’re talking about an LSU squad fired up at home, and, unless you’ve been there, you have no idea how intense that place is. I posted a quote from JJ Friday that pretty much sums it up. If the young guys had that same attitude, we’d be primed for the epic IB. But, instead, we’ll have to pick up the pieces and soldier on. I would also hate to see GMac’s career end on a sour note, but until the O-line and D-line pull their heads out of their asses and give these kids in the secondary some help, the end of this season could get uglier than we know.
"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban
great analysis...
-no help from mcelroy pulling a JPW 2007 on the potential game tying drive.
-i think my 7 man flag football team could have defended that 3rd and a mile lsu converted
-fuck mcelroy, because he is essentially dead weight on what could have been a great offense
Fuck McElroy?
Show class, not your ass. Uncalled for.
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 1:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
here here
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Here is your WORST POST ON THE THREAD award.
Congratulations! You are wrong on all counts.
The GMac fumble was all O-line. He never had a chance.
Your 7 man flag football team would be doing good to be equipment boys for a team that wears NC rings to breakfast every morning.
Respect your betters. GMac is not a ‘great’ QB, but he’s a mighty good one, and while I’ve had my own criticisms about him this year, I would never stoop to insulting him or anyone else on this team (or any Alabama team) the way you just did.
al.com would be a great place for you to store posts like this when you feel like making them. They will not go over so well here.
Don’t think a nice title that agrees with the mod’s post entitles
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
sarcasm-learn it dipshit. someone needs to call him out, and i just did. if he steps up and wins these next 3 games, i will eat my words and take the embarrassment of being a dumbass.
and sure give me a full scholarship, i bet i could hand it to ingram and richardson all day. maybe even throw 2 yard outs sprinkled in with a few interceptions. and just maybe if youre lucky enough, i can fumble away the game
by CrimsonTide229 on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
1) You’re being a troll and an asshole
2) I don’t think you understand the meaning of the word “sarcasm”
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Thanks for that.
I just reminded myself what sarcasm meant, and guess what – it meant what I thought it did:
Dictionary.com describes the use of sarcasm thus:
In sarcasm, ridicule or mockery is used harshly, often crudely and contemptuously, for destructive purposes. It may be used in an indirect manner, and have the form of irony, as in "What a fine musician you turned out to be!" or it may be used in the form of a direct statement, "You couldn’t play one piece correctly if you had two assistants." The distinctive quality of sarcasm is present in the spoken word and manifested chiefly by vocal inflection …
I guess I may assume your intention was to “ridicule, mock, and destroy” our starting QB in a crude, harsh, and contemptuous manner. Good job with that, by the way.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
and there you go with name calling
RTRB didn’t call you names, how about you not call him dipshit?
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
i will eat my words and take the embarrassment of being a dumbass.
Too late
by d12 on Nov 7, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
We got outcoached by a grass eating psychopath in dire need of a linguist
So I guess this finally turns the page on Nick Saban for LSU fans huh?
Hold my beer and watch this.
yeah...
Nick Saban is 2-2 against Les Miles. That leaves a sour taste in my mouth
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Good analysis.
I was so hoping that a different Bama would emerge after the bye and I thought we would. I thought we would slug it out with LSU and pull away in the 4th but it went the other way. T
The loss is painful, but it is not a surprise. After 9 games I think we know who we are. We have a young defense that may be a bit dumb, especially at DB. We do not have great team speed at LB. Our front D-line guys are either hurt, or they just aren’t that good. I think they aren’t very good.
On offense the problem really is the line. GMac will hold the ball some but we are throwing it enough now to at least think we could run a draw to get a gain, or fake a draw to slow the other team down. We have real talent at RB, but most of their work is in just trying to get back to the line of scrimage. They RB’s have shown a lot of heart in battling back to the line.
As to what is going to happen next there is only one thing I am sure of…we will beat GSU. My gut tells me we will play better at home and hopefully our fans will try to be a factor in the MSU game. I can not imagine MSU scoring more than 20 on us, but then again I never thought LSU would score 24.
As far as bowls I think it will play out like this— we win out we have an outside shot at an at large bid BCS bid as by beating Auburn we send them to Sugar. Worst case seems to be Orlando. We beat MSU & GSU, we are then # 3 in the West, but the East is weak. Auburn very well might go to Glendale, which would land LSU in the Sugar and us in Orlando. Worst case is the Cotton. We lose MSU & AU, then we are #5 in the West, but still probably ranked around # 25 so we should be able to go to ATL or JAX. No way we end up any worse.
There is a lot to play for. We are still Alabama. We don’t lose that many guys this year. Let’s at least beat MSU.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
"We are still Alabama" sums up my overall feelings.
We have a young defense that may be a bit dumb, especially at DB.
There is no one I miss more than Rolando, and this is exactly why. Leading up to the NCG last year, I watched tons of interviews with him. He was brilliant and articulate and an absolutely incredible leader for the defense. I hoped so badly that Hightower would be able to fill his shoes, but they were just too big. I miss his leadership terribly.
For the glass half full fan
Yes we gave up a ton of yardage in the second half, almost half of it comes from 2 broken coverages, a fake punt, and a 4th down reverse.
The 1st play is a broke zone assignment for Kirkpatrick that went for around 85 yards and a huge touchdown. Its clear that Dre is an extremely talented cornerback, but it seems he has a Dre “moment” like this about once a game. For a perfectionist like Saban, its got to be driving him crazy.
The 2nd pass broken zone assignment is the Milliner play on third and Vicksburg (I think the play wound up going for around 45 yards). I know a lot of people on DeMarcus right now, but the truth be told, I think that for a true freshman stepping in, he has played pretty well, and shown flashes of good things to come. Part of playing inexperienced young players is that they are going to make mistakes. Milliner certainly has had his share, but I hope he is learning from these mistakes and improving. The other that I think is becomming painfully obvious is that teams are not throwing at Dre very often, which I think is telling in regards to his talent. With that in mind, teams are throwing at Milliner and our dbacks and its been a trial by fire.
Fake punt, how on earth were we not in punt safe mode there. Thats a fail on coaching in my opinion, especially when Les Miles is on the other sideline. This went for 40 yards.
The 4th down reverse, which went for 20 yards. I think we just gotta hand it to them on that one. That was a well executed play and a gutsy call.
So those four plays accounted for about 190 yards against, and really, ultimately cost us the game.
by BamaThrasher on Nov 7, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
OTS is spot on.
Regarding the intesity in the game, the team did play with heart but the blown coverages but a dagger in that heart.
Also, why didn’t we have the Bama team that got the last TD all night. The final drive was a clinic on football. Too bad we didn’t do that all game.
Leave Gmac alone remeber he is one of the reasons we have a NC in t-town. However, they should split playing time so AJ can get real game experience.
Let’s hope we don’t slide the rest of the season.
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by TheGTOJudge on Nov 7, 2010 1:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was asking the same thing
Also, why didn’t we have the Bama team that got the last TD all night.
in MUCH unfriendlier terms.
Much easier to move the ball when teams are in prevent
So to answer your question it’s because we didn’t face the same lsu defense all night.
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by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 1:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Also, why didn’t we have the Bama team that got the last TD all night. The final drive was a clinic on football.
Actually, it wasn’t.
The biggest ally LSU had at the time was the game clock, and they were letting us nickel and dime them all day with the short and underneath stuff. All of that stuff didn’t work earlier in the game because their defense wasn’t willing to allow that, and had our defense somehow gotten a stop on 3rd and 13 they wouldn’t have allowed that then either. I’m not sure we could have scored to tie or take the lead even had we gotten a stop.
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by outsidethesidelines on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Correct
they were in prevent.
However with a stop and decent return I think we are near the 50 with 2 minutes. We are in a 4 down deal now so I think at the very least we get to their 35 giving us a long shot at a FG. But, we will never know because we can not figure out coverage.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
Touche.
It’s still beyond depressing to see a glimpse of what could have been, whether it was their defense’s slacking that caused it or not.
Maybe intensity isn’t the right word, but they are missing that “edge” that I have seen us play with in the past. And, I would say the same for the coaches. Saban has a look of resignation and frustration to me. For whatever reason he has not been able to reach this group of young men relative to sustaining a level of focus/desire/intensity, or whatever you want to call it, to produce what we saw in 08 and 09. Also, just a question, how can we play with intensity, but be flat?
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
This is a great write-up, Outsidethesidelines
I know some people look at the spoiler role as something that Auburn usually enjoys and at Alabama we set the bar high (championships), but right now, that’s our role like it or not. We can’t reject the spoiler role because we can’t give up on the season. As fans and alumni we can’t quit on the season and we have to support the players.
Believe me, if they fold now (and it could happen (worse than 2007 or 2008), we could lose three more games and imagine how pissed everyone will be if that happens. I’ve been a part of a lot of teams who had losses like this and the season can go two ways. We can rally and win all or most of our remaining games and have a good season, or we can fold the tent (as fans, we can contribute to this if we’re too negative and critical) and get to see an 8-5 season.
In all fairness, we don’t deserve a spot in the championship (haven’t played well enough, haven’t beaten good teams on the road) and we’re not going to get one, so the best we can play for is to win our remaining games.
5026 said we can be a good team next year and he’s right. We’ll be free of a lot of the media baggage.hype and that will help us. 10-3 or 11-2 will be fantastic, especially if we return so many key guys and get a quarterback with as much potential as McCarron (or Sims) leading the offense.
Also, I really think Dareus should stay in school. Drake Nevis, like Glenn Dorsey, came back for his senior year and it helped him. Dareus could benefit from another year. I don’t know if he will, but he should. Nevis and Fairley get doubled team also and they make a lot of plays in the backfield. I’m afraid Dareus will struggle in the NFL if he leaves after this season. Other than Rolando, our Junior players who declared for the NFL Draft have struggled. It’s better to stay in school IMO.
Unfortunately, a lot of these players don’t listen, but they really should. I can respect their injury fears, though.
"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).
by Bamagrad on Nov 7, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Oh, and a message to the guys:
We are behind you. We believe in you. We want you to be successful. Turn it up a notch. Let’s go! You have talent! Bring the best out of yourself. Don’t be satisfied with merely being on the team. When I was at Bama there were too many guys who were content just BEING on the team. They didn’t strive to improve or win, at least not with everything they had. That’s bullshit. Screw the rings, the merchandise, the shoes…that’s all superficial bullshit. Screw the free tickets and A-Club membership…play the game to dominate, play to WIN! That’s the only thing that mattered. Don’t be content with just being apart of Alabama, be a leader! Leave it all on the line. We’re behind you. Most Bama fans would die for you. Let’s get after it.
"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).
by Bamagrad on Nov 7, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
+1000
Well said
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
+10000
By the way…I think we can win enough to at least finish 10-3. And now we have no real pressure. We need to relax, have fun, and play to win not to lose.
And, although we have a lot of holes on D, I do not think they quit on Sat, so I do not expect them to quit this Sat.
BUT…somehow our corners, our whole secondary needs to know what the defense is. I mean these guys are college students. Surely we can coach them up enough for them to be in the right place on the field so it they get beat it is because the receiver is just better than them or the qb is just that good.
Come on guys, I’m behind you, but you look kinda dumb.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
Uhh, I thought Kareem Jackson was the only other Jr. than Ro...
and he is most certainly not struggleing. However you are right about Dareus, he should come back.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree about Jackson
He can be good, but as someone who bets on NFL games and the Texans in particular, their secondary is an abomination. That’s putting it nicely. They might have the worst secondary in the NFL and I’m not the only person saying that. Kareem Jackson is having a rough rookie year. He’s starting, for sure, but a lot of that is the result of the Texan’s being completely crappy on defense and the fact that they used a first-round selection on him. They can’t stop anybody and Kareem—love the guy—is getting beaten regularly. Maybe he’ll be better in the future, but right now he’s not having a good year.
"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).
And for our Juniors entering the NFL Draft:
Glenn Coffee
Andre Smith
Kareem Jackson
Rolando McClain
And lets talk about some of the players from my time: Dwayne Rudd, Michael Vaughn, Santonio Beard, Saleem Rasheed.
As NFL players, how many of these guys were really successful? Really?
It’s not a coincidence that our best players in recent times (Alexander, Samuels, Griffin, Ryans, Caldwell, Cody, etc.) returned for their senior seasons.
"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).
Ok, I give you that, I was only thinking of last year
I think Kareem is doing ok for a Rookie and he is a starter, I am a fan and the Texans will struggle without Ryans now. Big hole.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
So, what are your thoughts on Ingram declaring?
I’m always happy to see our guys sign big paychecks, but I REALLY like to see them sign big paychecks, and then get huge second contracts to boot. Ingram has had a decent year, but nothing eye popping due to injury, etc., and money wise it might be better to stick around (I don’t know), but as for experience, he obviously knows what he’s doing. Your thoughts?
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Me too! Big $$!
One thing that could make a difference with MI is that he (I think) will have earned his undergrad degree (correct?). He enrolled early and has been in summer classes with the expectation that he would finish before he left.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
That's true,
though he could have a master’s by the time he’s done if he hangs around!
I guess I was thinking solely in terms of his draft stock, which is probably down a hair this year from what it would have been last year. Would it really help him in any way to stick around? I can’t really see that it would, but that’s why I’m asking…I don’t know.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get it really
When he plays, he does well but……..we are not mixing it up like I thought.
If he comes back and has another great year, that would help – except there is always a risk of injury. If he is graduating, then they will do the check witht he draft and see where they predict he will go. If it is the first rand ound, he will go. If not, then he will have a big decision to make. My guess right now is that he will go unless he gets bad news on the report. What does he need to stay for? Another NC? He won the Heisman, won a SEC and NC ring and earned a degree.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Dwayne
Rudd was a tragety. That kid had loads of tallent. He had a few solid years with the Vikings but after that….vanished.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
rec'd both your posts
I have to say I definitely hope for success next year, but we have plenty of time in spring and fall practice to work on that. In the meantime, we can’t just give up on this year just because we won’t be going to Glendale. OTS is absolutely right that it could be so much worse (e.g. Florida and Texas), and while this isn’t an ideal season, it can still be a good one. I want to beat MSU, I want to beat Auburn, and whether we end up in the Sugar Bowl (unlikely, but for the sake of argument) vs. TCU or in the Chik-fil-A bowl against some crappy ACC team, I want to beat them as well.
I don’t like the spoiler role either, but I’m not going to deny that it would feel great to beat Auburn. We have a lot of work to do if we want to do that, though. I know I’ll be at the last 3 games cheering as hard as I can. And I can’t promise I won’t get pissed at GMac/The O-line/various young DBs/Mcelwain, but I can promise I won’t boo them.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
I won't boo them.
And it is one thing to give your honest opinion on their play to friends or on a board. But we are still behind them. No booing.
And, I’ll be at the Iron Bowl and nobody better leave early!! And that goes for MSU too.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
by 5026 on Nov 7, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, I really think Dareus should stay in school.
I think you are right in the sense that he could use another year, but it’s a financial issue. He can get millions to play, and you never get that senior year back… it’s always a year you played for free that you could have gotten paid for, it’s hitting the free agent market a year later, etc.
Certainly he would benefit from returning another year, but then again so would most players. In the end, though, at some point the financial reward outweighs the risk and the lack of compensation. I figure that will happen with Dareus too.
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by outsidethesidelines on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Also,
you have to think that the collective bargaining agreement is a specter hanging over the head of every draft eligible junior in the country…….
Are you kidding me?
It’s a shame to see that his career in Tuscaloosa is coming to a close, simply because we’ll probably never have another receiver with his unique combination of elite physical ability and general humility. In an era dominated by insufferable, egotistical wide receivers, Julio Jones is a breath of fresh air
Have you ever hung out after the game and saw his “demeanor”? He won’t even sign stuff for kids! He walks by our tailgate with his nose in the air like he’s better than everybody else! His is THE most egotistical player on the team!
Put yourself in his shoes
There are University backed Fan Days. If he doesn’t sign stuff then, I’d call him egotistical. But after a game, when you’re at your tailgate, he’s not obligated to socialize. If anything, he’s being smart because he wants to get back to his apartment without being mobbed. The kid’s a celebrity on campus and he deserves to be able to have time to himself after games.
"Open your mouth again and I'll nail it shut." Henriques, COMMANDO (1985).
He is a 21 yr old kid and you are pissed
That he isn’t stopping by to hang out at your tailgate after the game? That makes him egotistical? God forbid he wants to get some rest, hang out with his girlfriend, or just relax. Damn some of you guys think these kids owe you the world.
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 1:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That was a reply to the other guy
Don’t know why it replied to yours
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 1:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bullshit
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 1:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Explain to me why he should want to hang out at your tailgate after a game. You say that makes
him a snob? You have a high opinion of your own company.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Total straight up bullshit.......
Julio is my cousin by marriage and he is the most humble respectful kid you can imagine……I don’t know where you get that he won’t sign stuff for kids, cause I’ve been walking through the mall with him and watched him stop and sign stuff for all kinds of people……..you don’t have any fucking clue what this kid has gone through or the commitment and sacrifice that Julio and all of our players make……..you should STFU and GTFO…….immediately……..
by p3bhambama on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm so glad you said that about him. I wish all players had half the grit & heart he does.
Would love to meet him someday! Wow, maybe he will play in Altanta!
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
hell no! the Cardinals
are purposefully tanking their season so they can draft him #1. not sure what they plan on doing about the QB situation… oh crap just realized they’re going to spend the Julio Pick on a dang QB…
In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem
take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck
by tempebamafan on Nov 8, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Even if the Cardinals, lose out they’re not getting the #1 pick. Do you seriously think that Dallsa is gonna win at least 2 more games this year!?! But don’t worry, the Cowboys will prolly trade this year’s pick and 3 or 4 others for Ashley Lelie.
also, Buffalo
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
GTFO
now.
IF WE DONT FIRE THRUSTERS NOW
WE WONT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE DERP HORIZON AND BE SUCKED INTO THE DERP SINGULARITY!!!~~Kleph
by RedTideRising on Nov 7, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
You're the worst.
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--Roy Blount, Jr.
I'll make your boom boom go zoom zoom.
by animalcracker on Nov 7, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Your wrong on Julio.
My daughter is in class with him and he is not egotistical. Starr Jackson was, but not Julio.
By the way, if you have ever signed crowds of folks autographs, and in a weird twist of fate that has actually happened to me on a few occasions, then you would know that it is a terrible situation. Come to fan day and Julio will be glad to sign your autograph. But don’t ever hastle players for autographs. just say…good game and let them live their life.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
Indeed
I remember seeing Terrance Cody at Buffalo Wild Wings at some point last year (before Rocky Block), and we all noticed and thought it was pretty cool. But then we saw this one guy go up to him, try to talk to him, get his picture taken with him and his son, etc. A few minutes later, he was gone before ever getting any food. I wonder why that is…
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
I'm gonna have to call BS
I’ve never met the guy personally, but two friends have and both tell different stories. Most recently a friend at a team event… was just chatting waiting to meet w/ Julio while waiting to meet Trent (Pcola connection). Said Julio was incredibly polite “yes sir, no sir”…talked for a couple of minutes and didn’t even realize he was talking to Julio Jones the All Everything till someone called Juilo’s name.
Eat more grass Bama,
Fans, players, and especially coaches. Eat more grass. I am going to. Am I frustrated? Yes I am. I got to try something. Beer failed me yesterday.
Ok, I'll try that.
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by TideFanAtlanta on Nov 7, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
All I can hope for at this point
is that the younger players learn from this season and what it takes to do what the team did in 2009. I may not know much but I think we should put McCarron in to start preparing for the future and giving him as much game time experience as possible.
IF WE DONT FIRE THRUSTERS NOW
WE WONT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE DERP HORIZON AND BE SUCKED INTO THE DERP SINGULARITY!!!~~Kleph
Dear spoiled bandwagon fans
Gtfo.
Sincerely,
Everyone else
"I guess I must stutter. Did I stutter? I'm not very clear on how I articulate. Maybe I need to go back to West Virginia and get some more hillbilly slang and maybe everybody can understand me a little better." - Nick Saban, because reporters haven't learned.
by BamaReturns07 on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Reply fail (just kidding)
CrimsonTide229 is a few posts up.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Three thoughts from our side...
First, I’m surprised by the eagerness to replace McElroy. What’s so different from last year seems to be in the running game. To me, I thought Mc looked better yesterday, even with solid pressure all day long. Is he really a problem?
Second, I couldn’t agree more about Julio Jones. My 9 year old son and I really just enjoyed watching that match up all day, even through the stress of watching a game with all the partiality we could muster. He and Peterson are just two amazing specimens that could be playing today instead of yesterday. Jones got the better of it, but those are two great players that we’ve watched for 3 years. It’s the kind of battle that might pick right up next year on Sunday.
And last, I think your point about winning after a NC year is spot on and too often ignored. Especially in the real football that they play in the SEC. I have a friend that loves Boise and I tell him all the time: The proof that Boise goes undefeated every season is THE REASON I know they’re not as good as SEC schools. If you’re playing among these men every week, you are not going to do it. The fact that you guys did it for two regular seasons in a row is a quite a feat, and I respect you for it. Good luck the rest of the way, and I will still dream that you and GA give Cam back to back losses.
i hope georgia and Bama
will oblige your wishes. and thanks for giving us your perspective.
In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem
take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck
by tempebamafan on Nov 8, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Great job again, OTS!
The comments/concerns about the lack of an “attack more” offense is right on. The talent is there to run the corners all day long. The actual PITCH to Mark may have been a first!! Screens to any number of players in many formations can be done by these players. The offensive line plus Dial and Wallace can run the “student body” right and left. We have HAD to use a not very athletic QB for 2 years. Maybe the future with McCarron/Simms offers more.
Excellent write-up and pretty much spot on
One correction – They only got 6 points off of turnovers, not 10 points.
One observation – The big play killed us on defense. We played nearly lights out defense for the entire game except for 8 plays in the second half in which we gave up a total of 271 yards. That’s an average of more than 33 yards a play. LSU had 162 yards in the other 57 plays in the game, which is less than 3 yards a play.
And a comment – in terms of this year’s talent and performances we are roughly equal to LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, and South Carolina. That’s not nearly as good as we hoped we would be, and with our absurdly and ridiculously unfair SEC schedule we will be very fortunate to finish 6-2 in the conference. In order to run the table the way we hoped we would, we would have had to have all the improvements that we hoped for and a few lucky bounces as well. Frankly, we’ve had very little improvement, if any, and we haven’t gotten a lot of lucky bounces.
According to Saban, and I’m beginning to see the light, what we have to play for the rest of the season is exactly what we had to play for when the season began: Line up against your opponent on each and every play and MAKE HIS ASS QUIT!
One comment
Dorsey never gave us anywhere near the problems that Nevis gave us yesterday afternoon.
Statistically, Nevis is having the better overall year. He leads Dorsey in every catagory. I will say this though, Dorsey was never the same after that chop block during the Auburn game. You guys played Dorsey post chop block as well. Nevis is great, but I think a healthy Dorsey is every bit as good.
Besides, Dorsey was a 3 year starter on some great DLs and had a solid career. Nevis is finally having a breakout season after not being able to crack the starting lineup on some pretty pedestrian DL’s the last two years…for LSU standards.
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Overall impression...
On the defensive side of the ball we saw more of what we’ve seen
all year- blown coverages, lack of disipline when pursuing the
ball carrier from the backside and poor tackling at times.
My biggest beef is with the offensive playcalling. Trying to
run Ingram between the tackles all those times was maddening
to watch. Except for the touchdown run I don’t think there
was an outside run playcall. How many times was the ball thrown
to Hanks, once, twice? Unbelieveable.
We have alot of talent on defence, but maybe it was unrealistic
to expect an overall better performance this year with all those
freshmen starting. The offensive production, however, has been
totally dismal. As OTS said, no other offensive coordinater has
gotten so little this year with so much talent. The team, the
school and the fans deserve better. I honestly feel that there
are some people on this forum, as well as myself, who
could do a better job of playcalling.
Simply disgusting.

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