Wojciechowski says what everyone outside of the Lee County Tech fanbase is thinking
If 99% of the college football loving nation shares this opinion, does that still make us all haters?
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sports by brooks has another take
by JDinGeorgia on Dec 2, 2010 8:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Read the comments below Brooks' post...
This seems to make sense to everyone but the delusional Barners. The KoolAid is strong with that group.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
I
think the article misses the point. Cecil (supposedly) didn’t receive any benefits. Just shopping the kid alone without his knowledge and actually getting something in return for that (illegal benefits) are two completely different things. Had Cecil actually gotten paid, this would be an entirely different scenario.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Yes. He tried really hard to get someone to help him rob the bank,
but he couldn’t talk anyone into it, at least not as far as can be proven. Thus he is “innocent” under the law.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
Yes that is true
Had any money changed hands, He would be ineligible and the plausible deniability would not matter. The “loophole” only exists if the scheme fails to get any compensation by my understanding of the rule. However, what is in place to stop future parents from shopping their kids in the future? If they ask and the program(or those associated with it) say no, they simply move on. If they connect and get paid, the scheme works provided everyone involved keeps it quiet. I realize the scheme could be uncovered. That is true with any scheme.
Roll Tide!
by mobilematt12 on Dec 2, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think it's any special encouragment to shop your kid.
What you’d have to show to prove that this encourages shopping a kid, is that the “loophole” makes it more likely to secure funds for your kid and not get caught.
How does this case/ ruling show that a parent would be less likely to actually get funds and not get caught? Getting out of trouble for not getting any money doesn’t seem that exciting.
It provides a precedent from a high profile case
that illustrates there is no risk in floating a trial baloon as long as the kid doesn’t know. I believe you may actually see the NCAA rewrite the rule for the future.
Roll Tide!
by mobilematt12 on Dec 2, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions
Had Cecil actually gotten paid?
Reports of the Good Reverend coming up with the money to renovate his troubled church, reports of expanding his Trucking/landscaping companies (in a down economy, no less), are these factual or just hearsay? If they are factual, from whence did the funds appear? If they are just hearsay and unfounded, or the source of funds has been established as totally legitimate, I truly apologize to the Good Reverend and his extremely talented son and the au nation. However, If the allegations of receiving the funds through back door proceedures are true, dosn’t the element of suspicion of play for pay go galactic?
Have a Crimson Tide Day!
Roll Tide, Saban Tsunami Roll!
Yes, I think the suspicion is galactic,
but the evidence is not.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
Still
what about questions number 1 and 2? Factual or hearsay?
Have a Crimson Tide Day!
Roll Tide, Saban Tsunami Roll!
I have no idea.
Certainly suspicious, but obviously nothing has been proven yet.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
Had Cecil gotten paid...
We’d be talking about Cam Newton, Heisman Trophy candidate for Mississippi State; and Auburn, another dissappointing 5-7 season.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
True.
I’m looking back at their schedule and thinking there are AT LEAST 7 games they would’ve lost without Cam. But that’s why he’s winning the Heisman.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
If thats the case...
we need retribution for the Albert Means debacle…after all Albert himself knew nothing about what was going on.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!
What's really interesting to me about these two articles is that....
it so obvious that everyone in the country, every football fan, is up in arms about this crap. Auburn fans can’t blame Alabama for Oregon fans thinking they are cheaters and that Cam is NOT eligible to be playing. No one will ever believe he did not know what was going on. NOBODY believes it. Everyone is always going to believe that Auburn was willing to risk their entire program on this kid.
The other side is that the way this has been handled is sleezy and embarassing to the SEC. This SEC championship and BCS too if it goes that far + the Heisman will not be anything to brag about to other conferences. Is the PIMP going to not come to New York for the Heisman presentation because he can’t be in contact with AU athletics? Cheezewiz will be there. Will Cecil have to be seated in the balconey so they don’t come in contact? PUKE!
Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame
No, that's Ron Jaworski
and that’s who I thought wrote the article. I thought it weird that an NFL analyst would write a story on this, then I read the name a little closer.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
Eh, Polacks
They all look the same
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Dec 2, 2010 12:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
From the Sports by Brooks
article, this was the comment that was the most simple and made the most sense to me:
The Newtons were the ones making the offer, so they were already giving their acceptance of it by making the request. Let me make it simple for you… If I ask you to pass me a pen, I am asking for the pen. That is essentially what the Newtons did and why they agreed to receive by asking for the deal.
To me, that is it in a nutshell. “In order for my son to play at MSU, it will cost you $180,000.00”. Cecil went even further by telling Rogers that he wanted a certain amount of money up front, and certain amounts after cam signed. If that does not show he had intent on receiving that money, I don’t know what does…
Losing doesn't make me want to quit. It makes me want to fight that much harder. – Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BamaGirlinDallas on Dec 3, 2010 12:39 PM CST reply actions
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