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Robby Green (Maybe Not?) Suspended (Updated)

Bad news coming out of Tuscaloosa right now:

University of Alabama defensive back Robby Green has been suspended for a violation of team and NCAA rules and will not participate in spring practice, multiple sources have told The Tuscaloosa News.

It is unclear when the junior from New Orleans might be reinstated, but sources indicated the suspension may extend beyond spring drills.

Green played in all 14 games last season as a "reserve" safety, though the coaches many times stated they considered Green, Mark Barron, and Justin Woodall co-starters.  Green burst onto the scene during the 2009 A-Day when he shocked most observers by earning a chance to fill Rashad Johnson's shoes at free safety despite having been recruited as and working with the corners throughout his redshirt freshman year.  Green is likely our best cover safety and his suspension leaves the secondary that much more vulnerable after the departures of the top three corners and Woodall, the most experienced safety.

No news yet on his offense, but I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation (mostly from rivals) over the next few days.  Knowing Saban's desire to keep all disciplinary matters in house we may never know, but considering he violated NCAA rules I'm sure it will come out before long.  This is about the last thing we needed.

Update (OTS): Notice in the link now that the Tuscaloosa News has removed the wording about Green violating NCAA rules. Apparently that was a mistake on their part because now it only indicates he violated team rules. Still hate to hear it for Green, of course, but that is good news for us.

Update (Todd): From Tide Source, Saban acknowledges a "situation" but says suspension announcement is premature:

"There is a situation with Robby and we are currently in the process of determining the facts," Saban said in a written statement that was issued after reports surfaced that Green has been suspended for violating team rules.

"To make any kind of announcement on his playing status at this time is completely premature and it is not appropriate to do so until we have a chance to go through due process for Robby and his family.

"If there is a change in his current status, we will make an announcement once a final determination is made."

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"... may extend beyond spring drills."...

… is really just code word for the suspension is likely to result in some actual games suspended, and not merely a period of suspension the next few weeks / months while they sort out the matter.

I tell you, though, the fact that he is not even going through spring drills tells you that he screwed up pretty bad, whatever he did. It’s one thing to suspend a kid from games, but when you won’t even let them practice… well, that’s another story.

For now, though, I’m not worried about it. You hate to hear stuff like this, but unless we get something more definitive showing fault on the part of the University itself, this is really a bigger problem for Green than it is for us.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

I'm not worried about it from a program perspective...

…i.e. “OMG NCAA COMIN DOWN ON U BAMMER w00t!!!WDE”, but from the way he played last season he was going to be a stud at free safety and with our top three corners gone we were really going to need him and Barron to step up this season. Now we’ve got Barron and
Barron alone with real game experience and I don’t like that one bit.

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by Todd on Feb 18, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

…we were already losing 5 of our top 7 defensive backs, now its 6 of 7. Things are not looking good for the secondary.

by Kenny483 on Feb 18, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

all this means is that

our young pups have an opportunity laid in front of them..

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Homerism aside

It means a lot more than that. We are extremely thin at those positions, and it is clearly a huge problem for the upcoming season. Talented young defensive backs with no starting experience is usually not a recipe for great success.

by Kenny483 on Feb 18, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially losing 3 on the D line and our all-world ILB

In for some shootouts early, I think

"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"

by Stuck in the Plains on Feb 18, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I think we could have some shootouts early on also. We certainly have the weapons on offense to win those shootouts with Ingram, Richardson, and Julio.

This upcoming season I'm gonna refer to Julio Jones as "The Magic Man" and Trent Richardson as "El Diablo"

by AlabamaTitans2009 on Feb 18, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

well one thing is for certain..

Ability will not be the problem…

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

On the bright side though

Poor secondary play may give us more oppurtunity to open up the playbook. On the downside it would mean people are scoring more.

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Feb 18, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

That's just another reason

for recruits not to go to the Barn looking for playing time. If you’re a 5 star and something like this happens, you could be starting for the national champions your first game out instead of sniffing cow dung in Opeliker.

"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy

(Formerly SugarBowl93)

by RememberTheRoseBowl on Feb 18, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.

Assuming that nothing form this will get us in trouble with the NCAA (a big assumption) it is still devasting as it could not happen at a more critical position.

Looks like even more playing time for true freshmen come the fall.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Feb 18, 2010 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

99% of the time

doesn’t “violation of NCAA rules” mean that a player accepted some type of illegal benefit? Purely speculation on my part.

by Alakablamo on Feb 18, 2010 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

Not necessarily...

… you can violate NCAA rules in a million different ways that have nothing to do with accepting illegal benefits.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Can you violate NCAA rules?

Without it having an affect on the probation? Like, let’s say he’s failed a drug test, for instance. That’s wouldn’t be a program “violation” would it?

by Bobby Briggs on Feb 18, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

… that would be an individual violation that would only affect individual eligibility. If that is all this is, then there is really nothing to do with the program.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

he failed a drug test

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Feb 18, 2010 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

or 3

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Feb 18, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm wondering

if it’s another Todd Bates situation.

by TideFaninTN on Feb 18, 2010 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

The rumor mill says he failed a drug test...

… maybe that’s true, but if so why is Saban holding him out of spring drills? That is not something that usually happens, nor is it what happened with Bates in 2003.

I’ll say this much though, if it indeed is a failed drug test for PEDs, you won’t see him on the field again until 2011.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

Not an NCAA issue

The main article on Tidesports has dropped the phrase regarding NCAA problems. This is strictly a team matter.

by OpsCon on Feb 18, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

So it's not an NCAA matter...

… and with that you can probably assume rather safely that this does not involve PEDs (which will get you in hot water with the NCAA).

Combined with the apparent suspension for spring ball, I’m thinking this is probably a recreational drug.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

Green smoking Green

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Feb 18, 2010 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

Least his last name isnt crack

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Feb 18, 2010 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

or Johns..

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Smells like somebody was tokin' some refer

Clint: Hey, hold up. What’d you say.
Adam Goldberg: Nothin’.
Clint: No, you said something about somebody tokin’ some refer.
Adam Goldberg: Oh, it’s just an observation, man. I didn’t mean anything by it.
Clint: So what’s it to you, man? I’m the one who’s tokin’ some refer, motherf’er! So I’m a f’ing pothead! Huh, motherf’er, huh? Why don’t you make an observation while I punch your teeth in!

Dazed and Confused

And for the record, I support the use of Performance Enhancing Drugs. :-)

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by Bamagrad on Feb 18, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

And for the record, I support the use of Performance Enhancing Drugs. :-)

thats what she said..

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

You need them?

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Feb 18, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I do

but probably not the ones you’re thinking of.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Feb 18, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

hey man..

anything to “Enhance” your “Performance” is never a bad thing.

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Green is from New Orleans. Mardi Gras just ended. Coincidence?

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban

by Thomas Walker Esq on Feb 18, 2010 2:35 PM CST reply actions  

Obama blames Bush

That white stuff on the top of chicken crap is.....chicken crap.

by thrashcan on Feb 18, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Bush blames

the cocaine…

Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....

by bammer on Feb 18, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

The cocaine blames Green...

and so the circle of blame is complete.

That white stuff on the top of chicken crap is.....chicken crap.

by thrashcan on Feb 18, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

not to mention

our belove Saints won the SB!

by BigChief on Feb 18, 2010 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I BLAME DREW BRESS!!!

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Feb 18, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Speculation

is running rampant.

I’m glad it is not NCAA related, real glad.

For all we know it could be something to do with school such as skipping class. It could something to do with football such as failure to do prescribed workouts. It could be something social such as getting in a fight. We really don’t know what it is so why do we just assume he was using drugs?

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Feb 18, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions  

because that's the most common rumor

not fighting or skipping class or workouts.

by BigChief on Feb 18, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Well duh.

Anytime a player is in trouble the rumors start about drugs.

Reading what Saban said this afternoon it may not be drugs at all. It may be skipping class. I mean maybe Robby took off for New Orleans for Mardi Gras and missed classes Mon-Tue-Wed. I’m sure Saban would be none too pleased, but my gosh that would not be the end of his career.

Let’s start a new rumor. Robby was skipping class.

It makes as much sense as anything else.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Feb 18, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I kind of agree...

… how is this an ongoing situation if it’s drugs? You either passed the drug test or you didn’t, end of story.

It kind of leads me to believe it is something else.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Feb 18, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Saban's respnse

“There is a situation with Robby and we are currently in the process of determining the facts. To make any kind of announcement on his playing status at this time is completely premature and it is not appropriate to do so until we have a chance to get go through due process for Robby and his family. If there is a change in his current status, we will make an announcement once a final determination is made.”

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Feb 18, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

So Robby accidentally smoked a little green

Can you blame him? His name is Green and he’s from New Orleans and we just won a National Championship. He might not have inhaled. Did anybody think of that? It doesn’t count unless you inhale. It’s like sex with a condom. It doesn’t count as long as the man (or men) are wearing condoms. And if he used steroids, good for him. We have to sacrifice to win championships. Talk to the boys down at the gym and they’ll tell you about juicing.

I think we should stop being so judgmental about this. It’s like really tough growing up in New Orleans as a single dad. There’s a lot of pressure on Robby.

Dios mio, man.

www.totteringworld.com

by Bamagrad on Feb 18, 2010 8:13 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

If it was just pot, I can forgive

But he broke the rules he agreed to, so he’ll have to do the time first.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Feb 18, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

"as long as the man (or men)?"

wow you and the ol’ lady like to mix things up eh?

"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04

by The Voice of Reason on Feb 19, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually it takes quite a bit of smoking to fail a drug test.

If it’s pot. Especially among people who are in great shape with low body fat. In order to actually fail a drug test for pot you have to be smoking it pretty regular. People with low body fat who drink alot of water don’t get caught as often.

I live in California and I have a card for it so it’s legal for me. So I can’t really say too much about it, except I didn’t agree to any rules not to do it.

If he was juicing, get rid of him now/today/don’t wait/not worth it.

by cal n on Feb 19, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Considering how the situation kept de-escalating as the day went on,

I was hoping to wake up this morning and see that Robby Green was no longer suspended. Shucks.

by Alakablamo on Feb 19, 2010 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

Well, 66 on the roster + 29 recruits = 95...

Gotta get rid of 10 players before fall to make it under 85, otherwise there’s going to be a lot of new guys heading out to community colleges and prep schools. Well, that wouldn’t really be different from any other year, right?

by adammr on Feb 19, 2010 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

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