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The Morning After: National Signing Day 2010

With the ink fully dried and National Signing Day 2010 relegated to the history books, we can begin to make some preliminary observations on the recruiting landscape. With that in mind, I offer a few thoughts in the immediate aftermath of signing day:

To begin with, the quality of this class should be apparent from the outset. No it was not ranked number one like the previous two classes were, but even so it's hard to meaningfully distinguish the quality of this class from the previous two. Simply put, we followed up back-to-back number one recruiting classes with a consensus top five recruiting class... life is grand, eh? And for those a bit "disappointed" at our class, well, I would say that you've lost your mind, but that would wrongly assume that you had a functioning brain to begin with, now wouldn't it?.

Objectively speaking, if you were given the ability to design a recruiting class from top-to-bottom, exactly what would you want? Well, to begin with, you would want a lot of highly-talented players, and then to make matters better you would also want to fill all of your position needs. Moreover, you would like to have a class full of players that have generally displayed good character off the field and sound academic performance in the classroom. And with all of that established as an objective baseline, clearly our recruiting class fits that bill to a tee.

Admittedly there were a few disappointments in the past week, but frankly there was nothing that should have any lingering effects for the Tide. It was painful to see such an incredibly talented player like Keenan Allen go, particular in the manner that he did, but to be frank the more we found out about Allen and his situation, quite frankly the more relieved we all should have been (and I was) to see him go elsewhere. While disappointing in the short term, in the grand scheme of things it was probably good for us that the 737 carrying him did not land at Tuscaloosa Regional. Likewise, adding someone like James Stone or Shon Coleman would have certainly been nice on National Signing Day, but we are clearly already loaded on the offensive line -- with more top-end players on the way in 2011 -- and losing them doesn't have any material impact on us moving forward one way or the other. They both had legitimate reasons for bypassing Tuscaloosa, and in both cases you could make a defensible argument that they likely made the smart decision given what they hope to achieve in their collegiate careers. In any event, again, while there were a few disappointments, nothing that happened over the course of the past week should have any real, negative impact on the Tide moving forward.

Relatively minor disappointments notwithstanding, this class on the whole largely presents nothing but positive news for Alabama. Consider the following:

  • For the third year in a row, Alabama continued to have an effective lock on in-state recruiting, despite the fact that under the leadership of Gene Chizik our in-state rivals experienced an undeniable resurgence on the recruiting trails. Despite increased successes, however, Alabama largely fended off the attacks from Auburn. With the exceptions of LaDarius Owens (an Auburn legacy) and Craig Sanders (a player who only ended up at Auburn because of a concern over whether or not he'd ever get on the field at Alabama), we signed every other in-state player that we offered, including a player out of Opelika. And this was done even though Auburn generally had much more playing time readily available to incoming freshmen.
  • Continuing a very positive recent trend, the size of our recruiting base continued to expand. Traditionally Alabama has focused almost all its recruiting efforts on the state of Alabama and our border states, but under Nick Saban we have seen an expansion of that base. For the second year in a row, we took a top player out of the state of South Carolina, and we also took a top player out of the state of North Carolina. The state of Texas yielded us three players, we took a top player from the state of Maryland, and we nabbed arguably the top quarterback recruit in the country out of the state of Virginia. It should be recognized that all of these players -- Sims, Fulton, Kouandijo, Hill, Lindsay, White, etc. -- are players that traditionally we would never get (or that would ever even consider us), but with the continued expansion of the recruiting base under Saban, many more players are now available to us than ever before.
  • We came into this class with four need areas: defensive back, wide receiver, kicker, and punter, and we filled all of them and then some. The lack of quality cornerback recruiting was the dirty little secret of Saban's recruiting to date at Alabama, but that was completely changed this year with Alabama signing three very talented cornerbacks, and arguably the top defensive back class in the country. Likewise, we signed two of the nation's top kickers and punters -- plus garnered another good placekicker prospect in the form of an invited walk-on -- and the haul at receiver was highly impressive. Simply put, in terms of filling needs, this class filled them all. 
  • Taking advantage of a trend, we took full advantage of early enrollees. We have, by my count, eleven players already on campus, many of which came very highly-touted. While it may have made for a boring signing day, in terms of helping win football games, the effect of those early enrollees cannot be overstated. Just think... instead of holding press conferences and playing hat tricks, our guys were making pizzas this morning with Scott Cochran... now who is in the better position to contribute in 2010? Simply put, our early enrollees are in an immeasurably better position to contribute to our team in 2010 because of their early arrival, something that is particularly important when you consider that we will likely need some of them to perform right away (see Milliner).

Simply put, this recruiting class should clearly be considered yet another success under Nick Saban. Unlike what we experienced in the aftermath of our last national championship in 1992, recruiting did not take a nosedive in the weeks after. We continue to recruit at an elite level, and we will reap the benefits of that recruiting success for years to come. This recruiting class does wonders to establish the permanence of our current standing.

In the years to come, expect more of the same that we saw this year. As a general rule for the next few years, we will bring in relatively small classes -- likely a good bit smaller than what we have seen 2008-2010 -- but they will feature loads of high-end players. As scarce of a commodity as a firm Alabama offer has been the past three years, it will only be even more scarce in the years to come. Simply put, you're going to have to be one hell of a prospect if you legitimately expect to land a commitable offer from the Tide.

And to close, of course, the recruiting cycle never really ends. Hell, it does not even take a break. Our staff has spent the overwhelming majority of its recruiting time the past several weeks focusing on the 2011 class, and the benefits are already showing. We already have commitments from two players who look to be among the state's (and the nation's) best in Marvin Shinn and Brent Calloway, and we will add two more in the next ten days with commitments from Spencer Region and Reese Dismukes. Moreover, the younger brother of Arie Kouandjio, Cyrus Kouandjio, could arguably be the top recruit in the country next year, and it's no real secret as to where he will be headed. Demarcus Milliner's younger brother Pat looks to get a spot as well. Assuredly more will follow.

Again, the recruiting cycle never really ends, there isn't even a temporary pause... you merely change the names and continue fighting a continuous battle. Fortunately for Alabama, however, there also seems to be no end in sight for our success on the recruiting trails.

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Cyrus Kouandjio....

What are people saying about him?

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Feb 4, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

he's baddest man in the whole damn town

badder than tha deep blue seaeeEEEee, badder than you and meeEEEeee.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Feb 4, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

pretty sure it's from "da stomp" by ol dirty bastard

it is definitely from the food stamp album though.

for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph

by tempebamafan on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

"And for those a bit "disappointed" at our class, well, I would say that you've lost your mind"

excellent point, some of the fans need to take a step back from the ledge, this is a great class top-to-bottom.
Trust in CNS and the Process

by tc16cav on Feb 4, 2010 9:07 AM CST reply actions  

What's different from years past

is we had so many people locked up coming into signing day. There were no real big names that we were waiting to hear from that would either make or break the class ie Dre, Trent, etc… It was a relatively boring day for us…but I’ll take boring and successful over exciting and unsuccessful any day of the week.

by haybeav on Feb 4, 2010 9:21 AM CST reply actions  

I think fans

who are complaining about this class need to remember a few things:

First: This may be only the 3rd best class Alabama has signed in the last 3 years, but it retrospect it is probably the 3rd best class Alabama has signed in the last 20 years.

Second: In the last 3 years only one team has signed a top 5 class every year- Alabama. Recruiting is not about one great class it is about consistancy. Alabama is clearly leading the nation in recruiting at this point.

Third: There were certain positions we may have been able to get some higher “stars” at but we really did not need players at those positions. We did need DB’s and we have the #1 or #2 DB class. Plus- kickers and punters always have lower stars but you sure need them. We signed 2 pretty good ones and have a 3rd walking on to boot. I’d say we have one of the better kicker/punter classes.

There is one thing I disagree with OTS about. I think next year we will again sign 25 or so guys. I think we could very easily lose Ingram, Jones, Maze, Dareus, Hightower, and Barron to the NFL. I also think Jackson, Goode, and Griffin are really good skill players who may transfer because I just don’t see them playing much. I think we are going to see a trend that as our talent goes up more and more guys will leave in 3 years to the NFL. I also think we will see some really good guys transfer. Every 4 star can’t play at Bama and if a 4 star comes to Bama and does not get to play I think some will transfer most likely to the 1-AA ranks. I hope they all stay, I just think won’t.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Feb 4, 2010 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

A good post

I agree with your points.

The good and bad thing about college football is the turnover. You are always just a couple of poor classes away from being unable to compete with the top schools of the world. True, coaching matters, otherwise Weiss would still be the HFC at ND, but in the end you have to have the high quality kids year in and year out to reload.

We are fortunate to have a coach who understands that both recruiting and coaching matter. By the time he’s done, Saban might be considered on par with Bryant.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Feb 4, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Saban and Recruiting

I tend to agree Saban has never signed less than 25 players as far as I know at either LSU or Alabama. Early recruiting experts were also predicting small 2008 and 2009 classes, due to the small senior classes in both. Players are going to transfer, players are going to get kicked off the team, players will graduate, and players will leave early for the NFL. Also, Saban has never been shy about offer gray shirt opportunites.

Specifically regarding the end of the 2010 recruiting class; it is a common case of the macro vs. micro news. In a macro view everything is going as good as possibly be expected regarding the 2010 class. Alabama signed players that filled every position we wanted to fill, and singed players that could have gone to nearly any school they wanted. As OTS mentioned, Alabama expanded its recruiting base, something that should be expected even moreso in the future. Alabama continues to recruit at the highest level, in a stratosphere that only a few schools have been able to approach.

In a micro level, the last week had some bad news that Alabama fans were simply unaccustomed to hearing. Keenan Allen decommitted, something that has not happened over the last few years, especially this late. Also, Alabama was unable to get any late recruits that Alabama was after (Stone or Coleman), on signing day. Finally, I think the fact that Auburn was successful, especially on signing day has caused some fans to overreact, not unsurprisingly.

by Kenny483 on Feb 4, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Alabama released Keenan Allen

Keenan Allen didn’t leave Alabama, Alabama released him. All Alabama had to do to get Allen was also sign his brother. Which Cal did, but Alabama wouldn’t do.

Saban was obviously political about this issue in his response. He said they simply didn’t have room for 2 recruits. Truth is, Alabama could have easily signed his brother and gotten Keenan, as Alabama actually still had 2 scholarships left over this year.

Fact of the matter is, when Keenan Allen attached his brother to him, then he was no longer a 5 star recruit. His brother played for Buffalo as QB, couldn’t maintain the 2.0 GPA, and didn’t have anything near a good career there. I don’t know what his brother is rated, but I can’t imagine it being more than 2 stars considering where he played and so forth.

Not to mention the kind of attitude it shows about Keenan in general and where his priorities are. These things aren’t shown in his 5 star rating, and attitudes are what turns 2 star recruits into 5 stars and vice versa.

So Keenan was replaced with a 4 star JC transfer CB. Obviously Saban and company thought the 4 star JC transfer was more valuable to the team than a 5 star recurit and his brother.

I am one Alabama fan who was absolutely thrilled that Alabama did take up Keenan’s demands. Not even a heisman trophy winning Ingram would think of making such demands. I want to see the kind of attitudes in kids we saw this year in players like Ingram, Arenas and so forth. Not the kind of attitude that goes around making demands of appeasement.

This is Alabama football, not Keenan Allen football. I only wish I could have been the one to show him the door.

by cal n on Feb 4, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said.

As soon as Allen started to waiver I didn’t care if we got him or not. (Blake Sims waivered a bit, but for a totally different reason.)

But, Allen was trying to make the recruiting season all about him and get someone to be foolish enough to take his brother And now that we see the whole mess with his family and all, we are lucky not to have him. We will be just fine at DB with the guys we got. He is not a Tebow type prospect that carry the whole team. He is just a very good athlete who has come under the influence of some people with very poor judgement.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Feb 4, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

i think that says something about the quality of B. Sims

Saban said yesterday that once they commit, it’s done in his eyes. If they choose to decommit, he’s done with them, I believe his words were, “If they want to look elsewhere, then so will we.” Example: Juwuan James. The fact that we still actively and aggressively continued to pursue Blake speaks volumes of the potential the coaches see in him.

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban

by Thomas Walker Esq on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Or maybe coach didn't hold him accountable for his decommit due to the fact he was

a victim of Lane Kiffins lie’s and arrogance.

Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.

by mulletover on Feb 4, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

uh? so was James. They both decommitted b/c Kiffin got in their ears

On James, we cut our losses. On Sims, we kept fighting. I think that denotes that Sims was a special talent that the coaches really coveted

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban

by Thomas Walker Esq on Feb 4, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly james went public with his reasons, saying

he was fearful of Bama’s probation status. He pretty much tried to deface the state of Bama football. Blake simply said I don’t see where I will fit in.

Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.

by mulletover on Feb 4, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

At starbucks on campus

And I just saw Phillip Sims walk in with a couple of other guys in Bama football gear.. He didn’t quite look the full 220, but in person he does look less like Jar Jar Binks.

This is not the end. This is the beginning.
-- Coach Nick Saban, January 16, 2009

by houndstoothbear on Feb 4, 2010 10:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Ahhh me-ssa says good news.

Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.

by mulletover on Feb 4, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly,

I haven’t heard/read any Bama fans complaining about this class. When you go back-to-back as Recruiting National Champions, you have nowhere to go but down. Florida had a small class last year and finished out of the top 5. No heads exploded in Gainesville. Auburn had tons of room this year not mention major needs and immediate playing time to offer, they should have had a big haul. Auburn finished ahead of us on Rivals only because of numbers. Our average star ranking is actually higher than theirs (3.62 vs. 3.50). Auburn has the lowest avg. star ranking in the top 5.

If any team needs to be concerned about their class its UGA. They fnished middle of the pack in the SEC, behind key rivals UF, Auburn and UT.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Feb 4, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

Fans

I do not think fans were in panic mode, but some including on this site (during the Signing Day Open Thread) indicated that they were disappointed. As I have stated before; I think that had more to do with National Signing Day, than the reality of what the whole of this class means.

Also, Florida fans were much more in meltdown this time last year, especially with Richardson switching to Tennessee at the last moment.

by Kenny483 on Feb 4, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Richardson to Alabama you mean right?

I am personally thrilled with the recruiting class. I think what people seem to forget, and you hit it on it in a comment earlier I think, is what the team needs vs just signing up the bulk number of star recruits.

After having 2 top recruiting classes in the past 2 years, it’s perfectly normal to have a “down year” the 3rd. If you can call a top5 recruiting class a “down year”. Where as we were looking for starters in alot of cases the past 2 years, which is a big bonus to 5 stars who want to play early, this year the team doesn’t have the same needs as it has in the past.

Is there any chance Alabama could have snagged a 5 star RB this year with Ingram and Richardson in the stalls? Doubtful. Maybe if you had some kind of assurance that Ingram would enter into the draft next year 100% for sure, then maybe. But not really because they certainly aren’t going to be in the #2 slot like Richardson was this year starting out.

As such, the need for a 5 star HB just isn’t there. If Alabama was going to recruit a RB this year, then why not go for a 4 or 3 star with good work ethics etc, who can be worked/coached up? Meanwhile in another year or 2, you will have the same conditions that drew in Richardson last year.

And so with these things in mind, I am thrilled with the recruiting class. 5 star QB? Seriously? Nice. This while having McElroy for sure starting next year, and a RS backup who is already supposed to be near the level of McElroy? Now that is great because it means you can easily RS that 5 star QB. Which aside from the benefits of what they will gain in practice over the year also allows them to get many academic requirements squared away. Oh, and enrolled early on top of it? Good stuff. Meanwhile, we replaced alot of positions we lost on the defense this year.

by cal n on Feb 4, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

My

sample size is small, but a good friend of mine (known since high school) is a UF alum and diehard Gator fan as you’d imagine. He had no issues with their class last year as he knew 2010 would be a different story with the mass exidus all of them knew was coming. Maybe that’s a more savy fan, and not representative of the population of the Gator nation.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Feb 4, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Great class, guys

Y’all did great. Outside of Florida’s insanely good class, I think y’all pulled in the top class in the SEC, which is no easy task. Anyone criticizing this Bama class should be shunned from society, as they are obviously too stupid to take seriously.

You raise a great point about Signing Day. Over in LSU-land, we had an absolutely outstanding NSD, full of wonderful surprises. However, we absolutely needed that great day just to pull our class into the conversation with Bama and Auburn. I’d much rather have the class locked down early and not have to sweat NSD. My heart can’t take it.

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by Poseur on Feb 4, 2010 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

According to Scout:

In 2009 Bama ranked #2 in recruiting, here are the numbers:
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Top 100 players – 3
5-Star – 3
4-Star – 12
3-Star – 12
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In 2010 Bama ranked #4 in recruiting, here are the numbers
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Top 100 players – 5
5-Star – 2
4-Star – 14
3-Star – 9
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If you look at the numbers the 2010 class is better than 2009 class. According to Scout.

Your temper brings dishonor to my happy mooshu palace.

by mulletover on Feb 4, 2010 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

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