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In a move that's not the least bit unexpected, former Miami of Florida linebacker Arthur Brown has decided to transfer to Kansas State.

According to the Manhattan Mercury, Bryce Brown -- the LB's brother and one of the most heralded recruits in 2009 before signing with Tennessee -- may be a candidate to join his sibling with the Wildcats. Sources told the paper that the running back wants to wait and see how he fits in new UT head coach Derek Dooley before making a decision on his future.

College Football Talk: Ex-'Canes LB heading to K. State; brother to follow?

Now that Arthur Brown has washed out at Miami as a bust, it seems like his equally overrated little sister could be doing the same thing at Tennessee. I imagine that how he "fits in" with Dooley will be predicated upon Dooley's willingness to tolerate melodrama, handlers, and a lack of discipline, which I'm thinking probably won't be high at all. We'll see, but I suppose it would only be fitting to see the signature recruit of the Lane Kiffin era was out of Knoxville as quickly as he did.

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this is EXACTLY the kind of thing...

that had me worried when the vols hired dooley.

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by kleph on Mar 2, 2010 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

this is exactly the kind of thing...

…that had me worried when the vols ‘lost’ Kiffin….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 2, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

If Dooley starts acting like a football coach UT could be a worthy foe.

Inspite of our narrow victory last year I still felt Kiffin was allowing things to be out of control at UT and thus they would not be too much. But Dooley might actually restore discipline in Kville and I’d hate to see that. Here is hoping Brown stays.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Mar 2, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

but i'd be lying if i said

seeing daddy kiffin gone didn’t give me a sense of relief.

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by kleph on Mar 2, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh...

…how many lucid years can he have left, anyway?

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 2, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

i hate to be devils advocate but...

since when did averaging 4.5 ypc as a freshman running back in the SEC classify you as overrated.

by RolltideLaw on Mar 2, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

Well...

… admittedly I was being a tad bit over the top with the overrated bit on Bryce Brown. I think he’s overrated to be sure, but Athur was so bad he couldn’t even get on the field on a mid-level ACC team. Bryce doesn’t look to me as anything special, but he’s probably not that bad.

In any even, though, I remain highly skeptical of Bryce Brown. If you factor out his performance against the creampuff slate of Western Kentucky, Ohio, and Memphis, it’s not impressive. More than half of his yearly production came in those three games against non-BCS conference teams. In those three games he had 35 carries for 215 yards (6.1 yards per carry) and two touchdowns (plus about 60% of his receiving production came against that group).

When you look at how he performed in SEC play, against UCLA, and in the bowl game, it’s a completely different story. By that standard, he played in ten games and combined for 66 carries for 245 yards (3.7 yards per carry). He averaged about six receiving yards per game, and had a whopping one run of longer than 13 yards. And making matters worse, he finished the year with a whimper, racking up a combined 26 yards on 9 carries against lowly Kentucky and Vanderbilt, and then didn’t get a touch (rushing or receiving) against Virginia Tech.

Now compare that to what the other elite backs in the SEC this past decade did as true freshmen… Cadillac, McFadden, Ingram, Richardson (he’s not there yet, obviously, but no one doubts he will be). Bryce Brown was supposedly — to hear most “experts” tell it after his performance in San Antonio — the undisputed top player in the country and the instant impact player who would immediately turn heads as a true freshman. Given his performance to date, mixed with his apparent transfer considerations, I think it’s clear he was extremely overrated. Maybe not as bad as Arthur, but really not even close to what he was supposed to be.

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by outsidethesidelines on Mar 2, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

factor in the ocean of bullshit recruiting hype before he signed...

and you’d be safe calling him “overrated” unless he won the heisman his freshman year.

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by kleph on Mar 2, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Based on the hype

I figured he’d be putting up 100-150 yards every game. He wasn’t even the best back on his team and the other guy was not that good. He would play behind Eddie Lacy at Bama.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Mar 2, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

He would play behind Eddie Lacy at Bama.

To be fair though, Chuck Norris would play behind Eddie Lacy at Bama.

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by Bens4vcobra on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Having witnessed first-hand

Wichita, KS area high school football, I can confirm why they looked so good in high school.

Honestly, I could have probably come down from my seat in the stands, put on a helmet and pads, run for 150 yds, and made 13 tackles and 2 sacks.

Ok, well maybe not, but it is really awful football.

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