Instead of arguing the two sides of the coin, we’ll just go ahead and look back at the 2005 recruiting class, widely considered a smashing success for then-head coach Mike Shula. The names are listed in the order in which they were ranked on Signing Day 2005, showing you that we’re not above poking a little fun at ourselves. There are quite a few surprises to behold, especially among several so-called "must-have" players who turned out to be anything but.
Jess Nicholas: Re-rating the Class of 2005
The always worth-reading Jess Nicholas has a review of the 2005 recruiting class up over at TideFans, and as typical it is very good stuff. I'll make two points in relation to a variety of things he mentions:
(1) People tend to forget it now, but this was a fairly highly-touted class. It was the second generally considered solid class in a row that Mike Shula signed, and many thought its members would eventually form the core of Alabama's return to national prominence. In a roundabout sort of way, that eventually turned out to be true -- Reamer, Washington, Deaderick, Davis, Upchurch, Johnson, Reamer, Sharrief, etc. all contributed a good deal to the Tide's 2009 national title run, and several others were key cogs of the 12-2 2008 team -- but it wasn't until the fourth year on campus that this class really took off, and that slow developmental lag got Shula fired in the interim.
(2) Jess does a pretty good job of highlighting some bad prospect evaluations that Shula had in this class, namely pursuing Sam Burnthall while ignoring Jerraud Powers, and also finding scholarships for wide receivers the likes of Nick Kyles and Travis Sikes while letting Earl Bennett walk out of state to play at Vanderbilt. I tend to find this to be a trend when looking back on recruiting in the Shula era. We had legitimate problems getting high-end players consistently, not to mention keeping players in-state and away from Auburn, but there tends to be a lot of these cases where Shula and company just mis-evaluated players, signing some head-scratchers that turned out to be busts while letting other plays walk without an offer from 'Bama on their way to stardom with other schools.
Comments
This is a great
read, well worth the time.
I was very excited when we signed Barnes. What hype and what disappointment. I’m betting Sims does not disappoint but this article shows you just never know. I mean Drew Davis and Reamer- those are major surprises.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
Thanks
for posting this. It’s always fun to look back at past recruiting classes and see what happened with each player. Our 2008 recruiting class is going to be legendary when their playing time is done here. I also agree with 5026 about Jimmy Barnes. I thought with his size and strong arm he would do great things here. Prince Hall was another one I thought was gonna be one of the greats after his very good freshman year. You just never can tell.
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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions
I was...
…never sold on Barnes, but I was a huge Prince Hall fan after his freshman year. This was a good read.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 20, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
Fumble return for a TD in the swamp in ’06 was unfortunately his one and only shining moment in Crimson.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Mar 22, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
And much like Barron against SC last year
replays show he dropped the football to celebrate before crossing the goal line.
Lol...
… you’re right.
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by outsidethesidelines on Mar 22, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Good article
but I think the author’s reverence of JPW is a little off base. Despite having most of the passing records at a school known for ball control offenses, JPW was never better than average. I don’t think any of our opponents ever said, “Oh, shit, Alabama has JPW behind the trigger We’re screwed.” I don’t mean to rain on the parade; I just want to keep JPW in proper perspective.
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I'm still not sure
what to make of JPW. The fact that he actually made a pro team, even if just for one year, makes me think he was better than we thought. Furthermore, other teams may not have been afraid of him, but then he goes out and goes 12-0 and really we could have beat UF in 08 if the D had held together.
The truth is because of the situations- Shula leaving- Saban coming, 3 OC’s in 3 years, textbook gate in his junior year, etc., we may never know how good he could have been. I don’t know who BamaMag picked for QB of the decade, but I’d vote JPW and Croyle a tie.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
I might not vote JPW and Croyle a tie...
…but they would both have to wait in line behind GMac….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 22, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think...
JPW was really that bad of a QB. He wasn’t great, but given the situation he was in – 3 OCs in 3 years, spent his first as starter running away from the defense because the O-line couldn’t block at all (which I think created the mentality in his head to make some decisions that he had made later on in his career), and not necessarily having the physical skills to make all of the throws. His first year as starter, he threw pretty well given that teams could stop our running game by breathing on our O-line. His second year, he was adjusting (along with everyone else) to CNS, CMA, and a new offense. His last year, our running game showed up, but once we played a team with a great defense (like Florida), our passing game turned into something where the D dictated when we could pass, not the O. I like JPW, but I certainly wouldn’t name him among the best we’ve had.
by CaliforniaTide on Mar 21, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think any of our opponents ever said, "Oh, shit, Alabama has JPW behind the trigger We’re screwed."
I don’t think any of our opponents except Tennessee ever said, "Oh, shit, Alabama has JPW behind the trigger We’re screwed."
Qualified that for ya.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Mar 22, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
and that win wasn't "vacated" either
hellz yeah that was a good game. the only one i’ve ever been to @ BDS….
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Mar 24, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know...
…what our opponents said, but JPW was always better than average. True, the fact that he ranks at the top of some major statistical categories overstates his abilities as a passer, and I don’t think anyone would argue he is the best QB we’ve ever had. However, the kid had plenty of toughness and poise, and there were few losses that lay squarely on his shoulders, despite the turnover at OC during his time at the Capstone. And as talented as some of his receivers were in 2006 and 2007, there were too many games where I felt like they weren’t doing their part. I’m very happy he earned a spot with the Falcons last year.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 22, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
And as talented as some of his receivers were in 2006 and 2007, there were too many games where I felt like they weren’t doing their part.
That’s the truth. I heard one of our DBs who graduated last year say that the hardest guy to cover he ever went against wasn’t Julio Jones, but Kieth Brown. It’s too bad he never fulfilled the potential he had.
True...
… Keith Brown had unbelievable physical skills. He may be the best pure mix of size and speed we’ve ever had at cornerback, including Julio.
Unfortunately, he could never stay healthy and was always hampered by off-field issues. Had he been able to put it all together, he’d have made millions on Sunday.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 22, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Sam
Sam Burnthall was a friend of mine. I havn’t spoken with him since college and I hope he is doing alright….. If anyone has any recent news about him please inform me….HAHA
"I like my Johnnie Walker red and my women bolnde."
- Joe Namath
Burnthall...
Burnthall left the team before the 2008 season for the usual “personal reasons.” He transferred to UNA, played there a few games in 2008, and then got suspended. I remember the UNA coach had some pretty harsh words about him at the time — basically saying that he wasn’t focused on either school or football — and I haven’t heard anything out of him since. I imagine he got kicked off the team then and never played again.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 22, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
It's
interesting how it seems like 98% of the recruiting busts are a result of character/attitude issues, and not a lack of talent. And the ones who end up being underrated, work their asses off and buy into the system. Not saying that’s surprising in any way, just interesting and somewhat tragic that some guys who have such a tremendous opportunity don’t seem to realize it.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
by Bens4vcobra on Mar 22, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Take the word...
…‘recruiting’ out of your first sentence, and you’ve stumbled upon one of the greatest non-secrets to success in life.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 22, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought that was "the secret"
not that i read that chit or anything….
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Mar 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
the secret being
DO WORK SON!
for the next five days there is nothing in my heart but hate. pure, untempered, ice-cold hate. fond memories are for saturday. - Kleph
by tempebamafan on Mar 24, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
last time I spoke with him was during the ‘08 season, he had already left the team/school and that was the last time we talked. i didn’t know he got kicked off the UNA team. man, i hope he is doin aight.
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