Spring Practice News and Notes
After the conclusion of the second scrimmage on Saturday afternoon, spring practice is almost over for the Crimson Tide. With the A-Day game now a mere five days away, a few thoughts on some developments we have seen so far:
The biggest news maker of the spring has been redshirt freshman quarterback A.J. McCarron. After receiving a late-season bump from the scout team to the back-up position last fall, McCarron has followed that promotion by going a combined 38-58 for 444 yards, 6 touchdowns, and 0 interceptions in the two scrimmages to date this spring. That is about a 66% completion percentage and nearly 8.0 yards per attempt, doing it all without turning the football over. In a statistical sense, it would be difficult to perform better than McCarron has done to date this spring.
Now, as I said last week, Greg McElroy is clearly the starter and as a fifth-year senior he will be our leader when Penn State comes to town. Again, however, Saban is clearly very high on McCarron -- he has consistently heaped praise upon him for weeks now, and praise is the rarest commodity in the Saban dominated empire -- and the gap between McElroy and McCarron is, by all accounts, very small. The real world implication of all of this is that McElroy, while being the starter, will have a very small margin of error. If he wants to remain on the field in the 2010 season, he will have to consistently play at a high level. And if he does have another stretch like he did for much of last year (see Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, LSU, and much of the Auburn game), you will see A.J. McCarron come into the game.
Something that is not garnering much attention is the battle at wide receiver. Julio Jones has been the unquestioned #1 receiver since he first set foot on campus and that will remain the case until he leaves, but beyond Julio the situation is much more unsettled. Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks were the #2 and #3 receivers a year ago, but neither produced with any degree of consistency. Instead, they sprinkled in a handful of big plays with very long stretches in which they became complete and total non-factors. Moving forward, put simply, that is not going to be enough to keep them on the field in their previous roles. We have entirely too much raw talent at the wide receiver position right now to have such limited production, so rest assured that will change moving forward. The bottom line of the current situation is that, despite their experience from the past two years, Maze and Hanks have no real guarantee for playing time moving forward, and unless they improve they will be passed by other players. I did find it highly interesting that, in the stats released by UA, neither Maze nor Hanks were credited with having a catch in the second scrimmage. Keep your eye on this position. A lot of people just nonchalantly assume that the rotation at wide receiver will be a lot like it was a year ago simply because everyone returns, but outside of Julio Jones there is no real reason to expect that to be the case.
Kendall Kelly and Brandon Gibson continue to split time back and forth between safety and wide receiver, but given how things have played out over the course of the spring, I think it is quite clear that both are really nothing more than emergency options at safety. If we were really serious about moving one of them over to the defensive side of the ball for any extended period of time, we wouldn't keep swapping them back and forth between wide receiver. I think we are likely just familiarizing both players with the position so that if something does happen during the season where our depth at safety becomes particularly tested, those guys can transition over to the defensive side of the ball and give us at least some reasonable performance under the circumstances. For all of the publicity it has generated, I really don't think there is anything more to it than that.
And speaking of Brandon Gibson, he registered 10 catches on Saturday afternoon for 74 yards and a touchdown. On a raw absolute sense, it's the most production we've seen out of him since he arrived in Tuscaloosa. The yards per reception is low, admittedly, but Gibson isn't really an elite athlete and will probably always be more of a possession receiver than anything else, so that number is hardly surprising. Nevertheless, no one can complain about a player catching that many balls, so hopefully things are starting to come together for him. I had largely written him off prior to this spring, but it does seem like he has done pretty well thus far. Hopefully this is a sign of more good things to come. As I mentioned earlier with regard to Maze and Hanks, playing time is there for the taking at wide receiver for anyone who steps up their performance.
D.J. Fluker and Alfred McCullough are still battling things out for the right tackle position, and I still get the feeling that the further we go the further that Fluker will solidify his hold on the position. I don't think it's necessarily a given that Fluker will win the starting job, but at this point I think it's at least relatively clear that the smart money is on the former Mr. Everything recruit. The battle for left guard, on the other hand, between Chance Warmack and John Michael Boswell will likely go well into fall practice, and will probably become definite only in the days before the season opener.
With the suspension of Robby Green for the 2010 season becoming official a few days ago, it should be noted that Nick Saban explicitly stated in one of his press conferences that the decision ultimately received was the decision that was expected all along. In short, it came as no surprise that Green will miss the entire 2010 campaign, and we have been planning accordingly all along. Unfortunately, though, we just aren't very deep at that position at this point -- I tell you, Lane Kiffin snagging Darren Myles away from us last year really stings right now -- and to be honest the coaching staff is just very limited in what they can do, regardless of how much they have planned for Green's absence. As I have said since the initial reports on Green came down several weeks back, for better or for worse rising sophomore safety Rod Woodson has effectively become the starter at safety by default. Keep a close eye on him at the A-Day game, because I'm afraid we're going to be forced to sink or swim with him. Hope for the best.
Speaking of the safety position, one random thought... when Dequan Menzie returns to full health for the 2011 season, I fully expect him to be at safety. With at least the top five cornerbacks on the roster in 2010 returning for the 2011 season -- Kirkpatrick, Scott, Jones, Milliner, and Fulton (and perhaps Belue if he qualifies), Menzie will have almost no chance at seeing any meaningful playing time at cornerback in 2011. And physically, a torn Achilles is a very serious injury, and even aside the fact that it has turned many corners into safeties over the years, Menzie was a pretty big guy for a cornerback in the first place (around 6'0 and 200 pounds). Combine all of that with our lack of depth at safety, and I think you'll see Menzie at safety next spring. There is just no reason whatsoever why a guy should linger as scout team fodder as the #6 or #7 cornerback when he could easily be the #2 or #3 safety, especially if his physical skill set likely fits him better at safety than cornerback.
The best news we've had in spring practice to date is the relative lack of injuries. A few players have been dinged up here and there, but fortunately there have been no serious long-term injuries sustained. Of course we are not completely out of the clear just yet, but so far so good. Fingers crossed for the next five days.
The worst injury news to date has been with Milton Talbert, the rising fifth year senior. No one really knows what is wrong with the Mississippi native, but he has spent much of the spring on an exercise bike and has not participated in any of the contact drills to date. Given that he doesn't look to have any great chances for meaningful playing time -- Talbert, unfortunately, could probably qualify as the poster child for the tweener 3-4 end / linebacker -- I expect that it is only a matter of time at this point before we have an announcement that he will be going on a medical scholarship. I certainly hope that is not the case, mind you, but I'm afraid to say that at this point it certainly seems like an inevitability.
Finally, I'll close with a blurb on the battle to replace P.J. Fitzgerald at punter, and from all indications things are simply not going well on that front. Performances have been erratic at best, and the mere fact that offensive lineman Taylor Pharr is still seeing some time at the position -- even though with his length you would probably need a sun dial to time his release, and the fact that he too has been inconsistent -- probably ought to tell you all you need to know about how things are going. If nothing else, I'll say this much... if Jay Williams is even half what the coaching staff thought he was as a prep senior, he shouldn't have any trouble winning the starting job this fall.
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-Paul "Bear" Bryant
by bamalover on Apr 12, 2010 8:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
as bamagrad would say..
its so undude…
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
lol
exactly why i did it! theres not enough annoying people on here..
It's not the will to win, but the will to prepare to win that makes the difference.
-Paul "Bear" Bryant
OTS
Whats your feeling on Woodson? What are your major concerns? Barron started as a SO and we all all know how that worked out. Weren’t we a tad concerned about Green before last season as well?
Losing Green is a loss for sure but only for his experience. Lets just hope that Woodson hits the weights and the playbook over the summer..
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
I think we've had a number of potential concerns wind up pretty good for us in the past couple years
but that’s no guarantee of the same thing for this year…
I hope Jay Williams is good and loves hard work. I also hope we don’t have to call on him all that often, but that’s not exactly the kind of thing you can always count on.
by billycthulhu on Apr 12, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
that's the one bright spot of the green situation
he’s going to be able to be on hand and working with the team. so he’ll be available to help woodson and the rest along.
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just like Donta was last season...
I have high hopes for our young secondary. I think most people are freakin out about all the new faces and for good reason…but I think we are still getting use to the fact that this isn’t 1999-2007…We might have young talent but damn are they talented. We relied so heavily on our defense last year and due to that the fanbase is nervous that we will give up more points…well duh! Of course we will. The defense last season was unreal. They were sound, had confidence and played as a unit….we might give up more points this year but our offense will put up more…I for one will be ok with giving up 14 pts a game, as long as our offense can put up 15…
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
My own freakin out...
…is due to the fact that I want another 14-0 season, and I’m concerned that we’ll only be 11-2.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 12, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If we go less than 19-0 I'll be disappointed
I want to beat the Miami Dolphins’ record. Don Shula and Jim Mandich must pay for what they said about Lord Saban. I watch the NFL Network constantly. Mandich said he’d kick Saban’s ass if he were in the same room as him. He referred to the man in the straw hat as a punk on the Top 10 Coaches who shoud have stayed in college list.
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If he thought Saban should have stayed in college...
then why would he be upset that Saban went back there?
People. They’re the worst.
Whats your feeling on Woodson? What are your major concerns? Barron started as a SO and we all all know how that worked out. Weren’t we a tad concerned about Green before last season as well?
My concern with Woodson isn’t necessarily because of any inherent shortcoming on his part — far from it, in fact, he’s a bona fide head-hunter, was a highly-touted recruit, and is a good athlete. My concern is simply that regardless of whether or not he is ready for the job, he is going to be the starter nevertheless. He may very well be a great player and play at a high level, but unfortunately he may also be a bad player who struggles all year but remains on the field regardless. At this point both scenarios are legitimate possibilities.
With all of that said, however, Barron is a bad comparison. He is the best pound-for-pound athlete we’ve had in the defensive backfield since Antonio Langham, and his performance last year was easily the best we’ve had out of any safety since George Teague. He played at once-in-a-generation levels a year ago, and he’ll be a first round NFL draft pick. Players like him are going to be the exception, not the rule.
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by outsidethesidelines on Apr 12, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah..thats what i thought.
Or at least thats what i was feeling. Woodson has all the talent in the world but i think we are most concerned cause we haven’t seen him at safety yet. The good part is he’s been in the system a year. Its not like we are “stuck” with a true freshman. That would be terribly bad.
I agree that Barron played at a high level. That said he made a few mental errors last year that cost us. He and Green both got burned multiple times in the NCG. But with him returning and Green being around to help guide the youngsters..it might not be as bad as we think and could even be better.
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
well, i wasn't crazy worried...
until i read this analysis of saban’s defense and realized just how critical the safety is to it.
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the good thing is we have
one experienced saftey in Barron to make the calls ie. Rashaad two years back and another experienced LB to also make sure players are aligned right (Donta). IMO, if woodson has the ability and Barron/ Donta make sure he’s in the right place..we should be just fine.
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
i guess what that article really emphasized to me was the importance of having two very good safeties to make saban’s defense schemes work. in part one of that series the author shows how saban wants to take the middle of the field away from the offense by utilizing the safeties.
(as i understand it) the idea is for the corners to either force the receivers into the coverage of the safety or to keep them along the sidelines where they have the advantage. that forces the quarterback to rely on short passes in the flat where our man eating linebackers roam with impunity punishing all who trespass in their domain.
but if the safety is the weak link, suddenly the offense has the power to stretch the field and break down the defense at the point where it’s strategically based. if that happens we aren’t talking about a few long strikes when someone makes a mistake in coverage – we’re looking at a way someone could completely overwhelm our defense.
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perfect example is
the 3rd and early 4th quarter of the NCG. Barron and Green evidently took a nap during that time..allowing Texas to open the field..
Again im not sure ability will be our problem. Lets just hope Barron and Donta can be the generals of the defense and make sure everyone is lined up right.
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
I had the same feeling at that time,
that the Aubies must’ve had during our drive to beat them. “Why can’t we just cover ______?!!”
Seemed like they were just hitting Jordan Shipley over and over again on every play, just like Julio kept getting open for us against AU.
i'll defer to OTS' sage assessment
but my impression was that smart had moved to more of a prevent defense instead of pressure.as a result they were letting things open up in the aforementioned flats where shipley is a documented beast.
the problem there is eventually smart cranked up the pressure again and things like this happened.
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If Justin Woodall...
…could play as well as he did in 2008, I don’t see why Woodson and/or Lester can’t be ready to go this fall.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 14, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
here’s the link to the article i referred to in that comment. note that it refers to a document from saban’s defense at LSU which is quite different from alabama in terms of scheme but not in terms of philosophy.
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its a great article and
a must read for anyone hoping to understand the Saban defense…
Lane Kiffin took the meaning of "Volunteer" WAY too seriously....
Last Spring
Saban was high on Kevin Norwood being the best young receiver, has he made any waves this spring? It’s also suprising that he hasn’t been tried at safety, he has the size and really was a better safety than WR in high school.
Kevin Norwood
He can fire the shot heard round the world now and win a Super Bowl. Snap…spot…kick…it’s in the air it’s got the distance…it is…No GOOD! The Giants have won, Super Bowl 25!
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but,
can we really give the keys to our return game to Bob and his bitch tits?
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban
by Thomas Walker Esq on Apr 12, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
oops, shoulda been below
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban
by Thomas Walker Esq on Apr 12, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
… I don’t know that I’ve heard his name called a single time all spring. He’s a great athlete, but he’s got a ways to go.
Again, though, the situation is so fluid at wide receiver right now that he could easily come out of nowhere and snag a starting job. The same goes for all of the other receivers too.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 12, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
OTS,
has there been any word on who we’ve been using for KR/PR? I would assume Julio, but have you heard of any surprises at those positions?
"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban
by Thomas Walker Esq on Apr 12, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions
Julio...
Julio is about the only one I’ve heard consistently mentioned. At this point, I tend to think we will have surprising (to some) candidates back there. Everyone just assumes that you put the most explosive, dynamic guy back there to field punts and kicks, but that is probably not going to be the case. First and foremost, beyond anything else, Saban wants someone who will make smart decisions back there and secure the football, and that is generally not going to be some raw freshman (see Grant, Belue, etc.).
I imagine we won’t know anything definite on that front until the Fall.
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by outsidethesidelines on Apr 12, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Punter?
We’ll need a punter like what…5 times all season? Don’t get too upset over that one.
Beat Auburn? CHECK. 12-0 regular season? CHECK. Beat the #1 Gators for the SECCG? CHECK. Ingram wins the Heisman? CHECK. Tide defeats the Longhorns for the BCS Championship? CHECK!
P.J....
…bailed us out more than once last year….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Apr 12, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, yes he did

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim
"This is not the end. This is the beginning." - The Great and Powerful Saban
by Thomas Walker Esq on Apr 12, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Starting Safety
I think everyone is underestimating Robert Lester as the other starting safety. He made a nice mark on the kick coverage team last year. I believe of all the potential candidates he will know the defensive system the best.
If we really have 5
solid corners why not just convert one into a safety? I’d rather convert a corner to safety than a safety to a corner. Kirkpatrick is 6-3.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
Not happening...
First off, who says we have five solid corners? I certainly hope that is to ultimately be the case, but at this point no one even knows we have three solid corners, much less five. Oh sure, we’ve got a lot of good athletes who were highly-touted recruits, but Florida had that in 2007 and LSU had that in 2008 at DB and we saw how that worked out.
And with Kirkpatrick, he has always been hell-bent on playing corner even with his size (I’m sure he’s thinking NFL), and honestly he’s probably the best corner we have. If he were lingering fourth or fifth on the depth chart then I imagine we would do that with him, but you really cannot just take away your #1 cornerback.
I do think that we will convert a cornerback into a safety (and you’re right about it being easier than the other way around), but I imagine it will be Menzie in 2011. Barring some really big surprises, I just don’t see us having the depth at cornerback for that to be feasible in 2010.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Apr 12, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Settle down everyone
Remember how Coach and his staff work. They try this and that with player after player and then Coach gets up in the middle of the night and it will all come together. Remember also that we have a number of good players that are coming in this summer and they should add some depth and perhaps some changes again. Let us watch and be the support for the team and Coach and his staff. Patience brethren. Roll Tide.

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