2009 Boise State versus 2009 Alabama: What if Broncos played for national title?
The SB Nation site covering Boise State, One Bronco Nation Under God, had the guys over at What If Sports run a SimMatchup simulation of 2009 Boise State versus 2009 Alabama 1,001 times to come up with the answer.
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Good God that's lame
So we got that Bama wasn’t that good, ingram didn’t deserve the heisman, and no. 2 rushing offense vs number 28 rushing defense (against a much weaker schedule). BSU fans still don’t realize you gotta do more than play a Patsy schedule. And there is a big difference between the MWC and the SEC.
But the ridiculous attack on the intelligence of Bama fans turned me off big time.
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They will always say....
they beat Oregon who play Ohio St. in the Rose Bowl. ( and lost )
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man, by this point you should be used to wanna be rivals...
insulting our intelligence because they can’t beat our team on the field. even if it’s a virtual field inside a computer.
but, seriously, even barners aren’t lame enough to run a dozen simulated games to get the one where their team wins and then posts the stats of that one to crow about it.
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and this..
Alabama looks great on paper…but they don’t play with the heart that our boys have; and football is all about drive and determination.
is just stupid.
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Yeah that's lame... "heart....drive and determination" Yeah that's what wins football games
Giddy-up!
I think Kleph's point was...
…that we have just a “touch” of that on our team. It is silly to say your team is the only one with “heart”.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Yes, I'm sure he has quantifiable proof. (sarcasm)
It’s a lame argument either way.
a modicum of team play and “heart” is obviously required, but teams with better combination of athletes, and coaches win.
Giddy-up!
agreed
and chris peterson is a fine coach. He’s just not nearly in Coach Saban’s class, but still a fine coach…
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by tempebamafan on May 25, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, thought your original post was sarcasm...
…oh well
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
no wories. it was. Whenever anyone whips out the we have more "heart" argument
its because they are out of legitimate arguments for their team.
Giddy-up!
and if they whip out the we have more "balls" argument
it’s because les miles is coach.
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Sugar Bowl 2009 results....
I wanted to see us play TCU even though they got beat by Boise ST, we need a big win against the MWC to erase that Ute disaster. TCU beat #16 BYU, Clemson, Virginia and Utah (55-28 ouch).
Remember, Boise needed all 60 minutes to put away La. Tech. 45-35 last year. Only other big win Oregon 19-8 on the blue turf.
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Yeah, that’s not the Nevada vs. UNLV-type rushing disparity that the simulation implied. I highly doubt that the Broncos would give up 300-plus yards to the Crimson Tide on a regular basis. For starters, Justin Wilcox would have come up with a 7-2-2 or something crazy to shut down the running game.
hahahahahahahahahahaha.
ha.
They should ask Texas how having an awesome rushing defense worked out. Granted, Texas only gave up 200 yards, but Texas also played real opponents.
I'm wrong all the time.
This will all be over when....
they meet Va. Tech in their season opener. Va. Tech beat the Vols handily 37-14 with most players returning.
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I concur
It’s going to be a labor day bludgeoning.
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know...
….Va Tech is always a solid team but they just can’t ever seem to get out of their own way when the pressure is really on. I’d take the Broncos in that one.
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New DC in his first game, on the road, 4 time zones away
Labor Day heat and humidity on the Atlantic Coast, and a very very frightening trifecta of Hokey running backs make the difference. Va. Tech puts 280-300 on the ground and wins going away.
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Try 2 time zones away. As much as I loathe Boise State and wish they were located in the
middle of the pacific ocean, sadly they aren’t.
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by Bham03UAgrad on May 25, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Really? Why would you hate Boise State so much??
I find all the talk about them — and their claims about opponents avoiding them, while they show no interest in moving to a bigger conference — a little annoying. But I don’t loathe them to the point of wishing they were in the Pacific Ocean.
To SitP’s point, even if it’s only a 2 hour time change for them going to Va Tech (or are they playing in DC?), it’s still over a 2000 mile trip. So it’s not exactly close.
DC
And, I never minded BSU. I pulled for them until they got this sense of entitlement that bludgeoning the SJSUs of the world = MNC contender.
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong; I want to see Va Tech demolish them.
But I don’t wish death upon them like I do, say, Auburn. (slight exaggeration)
um por que?
There is only one team I hate more than UT and Auburn. It is Boise State.
Why you may ask? Simple answer they are a bunch of Potato F#ckers. No seriously they have sex with potatoes!
Aside from the potato sex there are three reasons I hate Boise State.
A. The blue field. I came home from a party and my friends were watching a late night game played on that blue field. And I got dizzy, headaches and physically sick cause of that blue field and their matching uniforms. I was actually sick it messed with my equilibrium or something. fields are not suppose to be blue. Smurf turf is retarded and ghey. Smurfs are as ghey as they come.
B. Boise state is always a BCS buster and goes undefeated often. Why cause they don’t play anyone. They are a very talented team I will give them that, but if you are a good team and in a $hit conference. You have to schedule at least 2 good teams from Big Ten, Big 12 or SEC, if you ever want to get respect. The first time they ever played a ranked team at home was Oregon.
C. The football player proposing to the cheerleader during or after the game. that is just ghey.
D. The ghey Heisman bus they had for what’s his name. Enough with the campaigning for the Heisman win it on the field.
Sorry this has been a long running joke with my friends since I got sick watching a blue turf game in 2001 and got very sick(it was probably all the pbr and whiskys fault but you can never blame pbr and whisky that is just wrong).
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by Bham03UAgrad on May 25, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
but they have all that "drive and determination"
doesn’t that count for something?
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The guy who drives this
has “drive and determination” also but I don’t think he is much count.
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by Bham03UAgrad on May 25, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You should make a video like the Bama student did about UT and their "throw up orange". LMAO
A. Yes, the blue field is annoying and I rarely watch their games for that reason. (I wonder, does hi def make it better or worse?)
B.
The first time they ever played a ranked team at home was Oregon.You can’t really fault them for that. I do believe that they have trouble getting marquee teams to play at their place, and they would probably love to have more such home games. I think they just need to shut their mouths and do what FSU did, go play “anyone, anywhere, anytime”.
C. In the words of Nelson’s friends when he kissed Lisa Simpson: “You like a girl?! That’s so ghey!”
D. Happy to say I don’t even know what you’re talking about.
E. With enough whisky and PBR we can solve all the world’s problems! Or be hungover enough not to care anymore.
rec'd for adding a new phrase to my lexicon...
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by tempebamafan on May 25, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
"The football player proposing to the cheerleader during or after the game. that is just ghey".
^^wow…
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by SpockJenkins on May 25, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not...
…The Tao of Steve….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
In fairness...
After a few drinks (esp in Idaho) she starts looking good
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking they were on Pac Time...not Mtn.
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
It would've been a good game.
Ignoring the fact that WhatIfSports.com is ridiculous on many levels, Boise had a lot of talent last year (and will this year). Bama would’ve won the game, yes, but the Broncos would’ve played a hell of a game.
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Shaun Alexander left Tuscaloosa.....
how many years ago? When is UA going to change the team’s helmet? I hate how networks prejudge Alabama by displaying high numbers to reflect defensive dominance and #12 for offensive favor.
A simple script “A” would work for me.
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I thought they were going to change the helmet
to number 13.
They're being proactive...
and waiting for #14.
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[scracthes head] if they are waiting aren’t they being REactive? ;-)
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by AlabamaJammer on May 25, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no proactivity...
because a decision not to act is itself the action of conscious processing, thus everything is reactive no?
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
No...
to wait before placing the #13 on the helmet just to turn around and remove it to put the #14 in Jan 2011 is being proactive, head scratcher.
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The end result seems about right, though
88%. I believe, on a neutral field, nine out of ten times we’d beat BSU. Just like, on a neutral field, the 2005 OU team beats the 2005 BSU squad as well. It’s the wonky 10% that gets you.
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions
Note to BSU fans...
we already have a little brother.
by TiderInTN on May 25, 2010 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd indeedy
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by Stuck in the Plains on May 25, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
3 things I noticed
1. Their sim didn’t account for Trent
2. One if their comments listed their beating of Nevada as a reason they could take us.
3. Yes, they beat the best of the PAC-10 & MWC? Best is such a relative term especially in connection to those conferences. We beat the last 3 national champions in one season.
Physical abuse trumps gimmicks 8 out of 10 times or so the sim says!
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by Violatron.com on May 25, 2010 12:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
i have a hard time believing
a statue of liberty play would have worked on ro.
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I'd love it...
…if we played them in Dallas as one of the one off neutral site games in 2012 or 2013.
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ugh. pass
if we win, as i fully expect we would, we then watch our national championship hopes get scuttled as the resume rankers look at the rest of their schedule and punish us in the polls.
if we lose then we have to live with the nonsense that followed the utah victory in the sugar bowl (“we should have played better” OMG! DISRESPECT!) and listen to these fools for another season.
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That's why we should have....
played TCU in Pasadena. I bet Nebraska will have something for Texas next time…a faster clock !!
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There's no way our rank goes down for beating Boise St.
Unless Craig James is the only one available to rank teams that week.
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by billycthulhu on May 25, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
If anything
Replacing Duke, San Jose State, or Ga. State with Boise would improve at least our perceived SoS, and to be honest I don’t think it would be perceived any worse than Penn State.
Furthermore, I don’t think we should avoid scheduling teams for fear of what the reaction would be if we lose. We can’t be afraid to lose. Sure, there are idiots who will lord the Utah loss over our heads as though it was better for Utah to win the Sugar Bowl than it was for us to win the National Championship. But I don’t think keeping them off our schedule is going to decrease the number of idiots who hate Bama.
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by billycthulhu on May 25, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't replace San Jose with Boise, same conference
If you beat one conf. team it’s like beating them all, all the time right…..RIGHT? Just ask Utah, West Virgina.
I understand hate. I'm a Alabama fan.
i'm referring to the...
end of the season resume ranking stuff. not the intial reaction by the polls. the “well they’ve only beat X teams that beat any other ranked opponents” arguments that start in late october.
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"What if"....
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by sixfoot7 on May 25, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks to this post,
I have discovered the most annoying person on the all the great internets and he is known as wolfmanshowlforever.
Which I believe is a reference to this…?
don't bring him up here
That’s just what he wants
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by billycthulhu on May 25, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that shirt would qualify as...
ghey
That white stuff on the top of chickencrap is.....chickencrap.
That shirt is awesome....
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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I have seen that shirt before
but always on an old choctow woman at the flea market.
That white stuff on the top of chickencrap is.....chickencrap.
I bet this is really him
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by BamaReturns07 on May 27, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as Boise goes
they need to:
- GET A REAL FIELD. It hurts my eyes to watch games on that field and I can’t see their guys. I think to have a field that hides your players should be illegal.
- GET A SCHEDULE. Play VT, LSU, Arky, Ole Miss, SC, UT, AU, UF, and TEXAS in the same season and beat them all then we will talk.
- GET A CLUE. If you have an 88% chance of winning that is pretty much the ball game considering you aren’ t going to sneak up on us in Pasadena.
- GET A LIFE. Last season is over. You did not win. All your talk means nothing
And the reason Bama is not scheduling Boise in the regular season is: (1) We already play a very tough schedule every year. It doesn’ t make sense for us to schedule all of our non conference games against tough schools. We will take one tough non conference game a year and that is plenty. We’d much rather play Penn St. or Miami than Boise. (2) We have nothing to prove to them. (3) If you listed the non conference teams our fans want to see us play that list would look something like: Oklahoma, Ohio State, Texas, USC, Michigan, Notre Dame, Nebraska. Boise would not crack the top 20 teams we want to play.
I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.
We should take that poll
Can SB Nation do polls with 2nd and 3rd choices?
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by billycthulhu on May 25, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't believe so.
or, at least, i haven’t figured out how to do it.
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Just create a poll...
…with about 40-50 choices, then rank the top twenty responses after closing the poll….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 25, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Fun
I think the main point of OBNUG posting this was to fill space and was just for fun. No need to get too serious about that stuff, Alabama was the best team last year as they proved it on the field by beating Texas.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 25, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to RBR
We will try and be nice.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Why thank you.
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by Jeremy Mauss on May 25, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry about the little trash fest between me...
…and wolfboy on the OBNUG blog(if you saw it). I know he is a fellow Ute fan but I prefer to think of him as an aberration, as he is the only one I have ever really taken issue with.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
i thought
you were amazingly composed. the guy was a complete jerk and certainly did not represent the utes very well at all. that being said, i didn’t see any mods telling him to shut his whore mouth either…
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by BamaReturns07 on May 27, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I think we are taking this way too seriously. I really can’t blame other teams’ fans for rooting for them til the end, even if that means against teams that are very heavily favored. What kind of fans would they be otherwise? Besides, it seems like they’re being fairly realistic about their chances, despite some understandable homerism
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by billycthulhu on May 25, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it should be noted...
most of the ire you are seeing here is directed at the commenters to that post who 1) insult us as a fanbase directly or 2) make ridiculous comments about the bronco’s ability on the field. none of these responses are directed at the blog itself for posting the item.
in fact, running sim games in the off season sounds like a great way to spur discussion and analysis of one’s team. as several commenters in this thread have said, ‘nine times outta ten’ sounds about right for the BSU Bama matchup.
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boise st. in title game
boise state gets their one chance to prove they belong and believe me they will this year they played good teams last year and won them too, and they have all the same players coming back except one how could anyone think they want be in the title game at the end of the year they will probably lose that title game but they will be there. they only have 2 teams with any talent to play and they are for real so they will beat them and get to the title game i hope we are there too!! to prove they dont belong on the same field.. roll tide baby!
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