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POLL: What OOC Team Should Alabama Schedule?

A few weeks ago, Georgia Tech wussed out requested a postponement in the series with Alabama set for 2013 and 2014. The result was a pretty big gap in our OOC lineup for the foreseeable football future (not to mention the ongoing hunt for an opponent to open the 2012 season). The panjandrums in the athletic departments say they are hard at work arranging some kind of marquee matchup but of course that's not going to stop us suggesting who we'd like to see.

Over the past few weeks there has been a decent amount of chatter both here on RBR and elsewhere in the sports blogosphere about which out-of-conference team that would look best on the Crimson Tide schedule. Nico2.0 even posted a poll that asked which conference the ideal team should hail from (Pac 10 won handily). And the reasoning behind everyone's individual preferences are all over the map. Some folks want revenge games, other folks want historic matchups and then there are some folks whining that nobody takes them seriously.

So because I'm procrastinating from real work a dedicated blogger I went back and culled the teams whose names kept coming up the the discussion and whipped up this poll. No, it's not all inclusive and yes, I left off teams like Virginia Tech, Michigan State and Penn State who we've played recently or plan to (with the obvious exceptions, of course). If you don't see the team you'd like to see Bama face off against, mash "other" and plop their name down in the comments.

Poll
What out-of-conference team should Alabama schedule to play?
Notre Dame
314 votes
USC Trojans
264 votes
Boise State Broncos
258 votes
Utah Utes
217 votes
Nebraska Cornhuskers
101 votes
Ohio State Buckeyes
71 votes
Michigan Wolverines
55 votes
Oklahoma Sooners
49 votes
Miami Hurricanes
41 votes
Texas Longhorns
38 votes
UL-Monroe Warhawks
36 votes
Oregon Ducks
34 votes
Iowa Hawkeyes
26 votes
Florida State Seminoles
25 votes
Minnesota Golden Gophers
7 votes
Cal Golden Bears
9 votes
Other
11 votes

1556 votes | Poll has closed

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Iowa would be a very good game...

low-scoring, very physical, a lot of north-south play, and for fans of trench warfare, you’d be hard pressed to see a consummate O-Line (Iowa) vs. the prototypical Saban D-Line with size and speed

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by Stuck in the Plains on May 27, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Just saw the pic and cap...

I think you’re right.

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by Stuck in the Plains on May 27, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

dept. of full disclosure

i stole that comment from adam jacobi over at BHGP. with his blessing, of course.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

added...

i had them on there initially, i swear. but in editing the list i must have accidentally deleted them.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn

not like the 20 minute head start helped everyone else any.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had to go with USC.

Over the past few years, when I have posted on college football message boards, I have run into a number of USC fans that I would like to shut up. I swear, it seem like 99.2% of their fans (on message boards) are morons. I am sure this isn’t the case, but it is just so hard to find a solid USC poster. Has anyone else noticed this or am I just crazy?

by Crimson2007 on May 27, 2010 8:45 AM CDT reply actions  

not crazy

I picked them for the same reason

by Joe27 on May 27, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

like this, you mean?

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was fast...

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by Stuck in the Plains on May 27, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

They mock us for the cupcakes from probation era…. it’s ok though, they’ll learn about that experience pretty soon.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on May 27, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

They need to schedule high-class OOC opponents

Makes it feel better when they inexplicably lose to the dregs of the PAC-10

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by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's times like these

i wish frank thomas picked a higher score.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was my thought too.

Better to consistently beat everyone in your own conference before looking to schedule all the heavyweights. Which, might I add, is exactly what we have done. We find that formula works well when you need to beat Texas at the end of a long season.

by TiderInTN on May 27, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

kleph,

actually that guy isn’t half as bad as some of the ones I have come across, but it at least looks like I am not crazy (for now).

by Crimson2007 on May 27, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It would be a great match up and I would be leary about scheduling a team that could be an in-conference foe for the next couple of years.

It's hard to say what's been most impressive. The seamless jump from AA? The ability to hit for average? The ability to hit for power? The 18 walks in 111 trips to the plate? The flair for the dramatic? When you're trying to isolate the most impressive aspect of Jason Heyward's game, there's a lot to choose from, and it's only been a month and a half.

by Richie Grogan on May 27, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I picked ULM

which is the only realistic option. Nice to know that you have some brave fans willing to enter the Octagon with the big boy on the block. But, too bad that your AD and Coach are too scared to risk an L in OOC.

Anytime, anywhere.

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

As was noted by one of the posters on your page,

Bama is trying to schedule 1 marquee OOC matchup per year. We’re certainly not afraid to play you. You just have to get in line.

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some suggestions:

A) Why don’t you work on getting USC’s in conference schedule a little tougher before you come bashing our out of conference scheduling.

B) You do realize that our OOC schedule included Clemson and VaTech the last two years, right? I know we’ve had some super cupcakes too (UTC), but terrified of losing OOC we’re not.

C) Enjoy your ‘big boy on the block’ comments while you can. Alabama is walking proof of what NCAA sanctions can do to a top tier program. Not only do you have the Bush stuff to worry about, but you have a new coach who is a sanction bomb waiting to go off.

D) Before employing ‘big boy on the block,’ you might want to check the records and find out who is the reigning BCS National Champions. Until you win one again, I’d suggest being happy with ‘little brother.’

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 27, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comments on your suggestions:

A) I believe there were 6 PacX teams ranked last season. I’ll give you that the top of the pyramid isn’t as strong, but I believe the PacX has better depth than the SEC. Finally, we play a full round robin. There is no tougher conference schedule than a full round robin in a deep league.
B) FIU, UTC and North Texas? I’m not convinced.
C) Our new Coach has committed a handful of trivial secondaries, and now he’s a “sanction bomb”? Ludicrous.
D) The BCS is a fraudulent system based on the prettiest resume. That is why you guys schedule the FIUs, UTCs, and North Texas’ every season. My national champ last season is Boise St.

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Because Boise St’s schedule was so strong. Anyway, if you’re that obsessed with picking national championships who didn’t get it and desperately trying to devalue ours, you’d probably be more at home here

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by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I count...

0 Top 10 teams in the Pac 10
2 Top 10 teams in the SEC
3 Top 10 teams that Bama beat last year
1 Top 10 team that BSU beat last year

2 Top 25 teams in the Pac 10
4 Top 25 teams in the SEC
5 Top 25 teams that Bama beat last year
2 Top 25 teams that BSU beat last year

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/?eref=sinav

You were saying?

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious

That someone complaining about Alabama’s SOS sees Boise State as the national champions.

His problem is that we’ve only had one OOC opponent he sees as worthy. Let’s see, BSU had Oregon, certainly a worthy team. Their other OOC opponents were Miami (OH), Bowling Green, UC Davis, and Tulsa. But hey, they made it through that tough WAC schedule without losing!

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's look at on the field matchups

1) Since 1998, the Pac10 leads the SEC in head to head games 11-9, for a 55% winning percentage.

2) BSU beat TCU. TCU slaughtered Utah. And, when Utah recently played Bama, well, you know the rest….

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Let’s look at on the field matchups” followed 3 sentences later by a discussion of transitive wins…

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, i'd be more willing to listen to his whining about our ooc schedule

if his team could take care of their in-conference cupcake games.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

He complained about our OOC schedule

This led him to conclude, apparently, that Boise St. was the national champion. When I pointed out why that didn’t make any sense, he decided to just shift his reasoning… What he shifted to didn’t really make any sense, though… I guess Ole Miss should have been the 2008 champions?

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually calling Ole Miss the 2008 Champions makes MORE sense than his logic

It would be like calling Ohio State the 2008 champs. You see, Ohio St. beat the pants off Michigan, who had beaten Florida the previous year.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt09.htm

By Sagarin’s rankings:
Boise’s SOS = 96
Bama’s SOS = 2**

Both were undefeated. I’ll let you decide who was more worthy.

**He has our SOS as 2nd toughest, but I can’t find who was #1. Anybody else see it?

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

USCs was 19...

You’d think they could schedule some tougher teams, huh?

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 27, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mississippi State. I think every final analysis of SOS had them at #1.

by squinky86 on May 27, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comments on your comments:

A) Ok, the top of the pyramid isn’t that strong – we certainly agree there. Let’s look at the rest of the pyramid now. Care to check out the rest of our respective conferences’ records for last year. I think you’ll find the depth is on our side. http://espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=333 http://espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=12 Just check out the conference records a little ways down and to the right. There’s just no comparison.

B) I did not say we don’t schedule cupcakes. I did say we do schedule tough OOC opponents each year that we could easily lose to. Thus, we are not afraid to play tough OOC games. We’re obviously not afraid to play cupcakes either.

C) Every coach commits a handful of secondaries in their tenure – some can’t be helped. If you call Kiffin’s record as a handful, then he has redefined the definition of the term. He has shown on multiple occasions that he either does not know the rules of the game he coaches, or he does not care.

D) My champ for 2004 is Auburn. (Not really, but if we’re going to be absurd here, my statement would have far more validity than yours)

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 27, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boise St. was your champ, huh?

Alabama: #2 SOS, 3-0 vs top 10 and 7-0 vs top 30
Boise St: #96 SOS, 1-0 vs top 10 and 2-0 vs top 30

Alabama also became the first team in major college football history to defeat the last three previous national champions in the same season (24-15 vs ’07 champion LSU, 32-13 vs ’08 & ’06 champion Florida, 37-21 vs ’05 champion Texas).

Alabama also became the first team in major college football history to defeat two straight opponents with at least a 12-0 record (defeated 12-0 Florida 32-13 in SEC title game & 13-0 Texas 37-21 in BCS title game).

Alabama defeated 10 bowl opponents in 2009. That’s the most ever recorded in major college football history.

So, why is Boise State your champ again?

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

You won't be seeing any of us in Boise crying for the title.

Well, maybe only a little bit.

"Everyone counted us out. I don't know why they keep doing that." -- Kyle Wilson

by Loque on May 28, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

If Alabama and Boise State just could have settled this on the field, there would be no questions. I wish they could have. Maybe this year?

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's all we want. A shot.

We could play 4 SEC schools OOC and still have 8 WAC teams to go. We could go undefeated and still get shut out of the title game by 2 other BCS-conference undefeateds. And if BSU did get in over one of those undefeated BCS-conference teams, it would be unfair to that team. This is why it should not be settled by votes. Make/Let everyone prove it on the field.

by D_Summit on May 28, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

i see how kiffin

is a perfect fit with you guys.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa...come on now...

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with him, kleph.

That’s a pretty low blow to say that any fan base deserves the likes of Kiffin. Right, Paragon?

I’m sorry, I kid, but….. Should you be taking offense to kleph’s statement if you believe in Kiff?

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is my coach and he has my support...

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

nobody will begrudge you that...

but don’t say we didn’t warn you.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have absolutely no problem being the last man standing...

If the choice is the one I chose above or treating my coach like the clowns at another blog did WRT to Karl Dorrell then for me the choice is easy.

You always stand by your man until he gives you a reason not to…

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

You play 1 game against him...

and, that gives you the subject matter expertise to issue warnings? Humorous. Might I remind you that Kiff was a Trojan coach for 5 years, and no one knows him better than us.

Kiff is a wunderkind. And, with USC’s bounty of weapons, he will win championships.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

the fact you say it with a straight face

is what makes it so funny.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your hubris

undermines your credibility

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm a bama fan

all bama fans are awesome. get used to it if you’re gonna troll our boards.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your...

…calling Lane Kiffen a wunderkind undermines your credibility…not to mention that you referred to him as ‘Kiff’….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 1, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

He beat you guys everywhere but on the scoreboard in Tuscaloosa with an inferior team. Imagine what he would do with USC’s thoroughbreds?

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

miss bowls for the next five years due to an NCAA ban?

enjoy all those moral victories, bucko.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Kleph Predicts a 5-year Bowl Ban?

May I gloat when the ruling comes down showing how far afield you are?

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're right

no way could kiffin make it to five bowl games.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you delight in "beating someone" everywhere except on the scoreboard

I guess you will be perfectly satisfied with Kiffin

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by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not sure...

…but isn’t the scoreboard the only thing that counts? Wow! That was a moronic comment.

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah....like no other fan base has morons that post on message boards or blogs

Sheesh, there are plenty of solid USC commenters out there, you just have to look in e right spots. Man, get out much?

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair's fair, paragon

your trojan brethren are living the stereotype to the hilt today.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe some but not all

You can’t use a few loose cannons determine a whole fan base…

Heck if I did that I would have to disown my mom and brother because they both went to UCLA…

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

A bit sensitive today?

I probably came off a bit strong. Honestly, I’d give my left testicle to play Bama, Florida, or LSU, as would most other Trojans. To me, most of the comments are not condescending. Rather, I see healthy debate interspersed with some good natured ribbing.

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

no. you came off as an arrogant asshole

too puffed up on your own sense of self-entitlement to actually listen to anyone else who had a reasonable point to make.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a kind interpretation

I’d say he came off like he doesn’t know a football from a hole in the ground.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 27, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That really hurts, Lawyer Doofus

your unique brand of football insight continues to amaze me. you’re kind of like the Barney Fife of this Mayberry, aren’t you?

by DFWTrojan on May 27, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

kleph,

…this is exactly what I am used to seeing from USCw fans. It never fails.

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

one moron does not a fanbase make

paragon and dc trojan more than make up for this idiots ravings. sure, they are both homers to an extreme, but they know their stuff and it’s always worth hearing what they have to say.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know and I completely agree with you,

it just seems really hard to find solid USCw posters on the innerwebs these days. It seems like 9 out of 10 make comments like this other guy. That is all.

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, i also give USC a lot of slack

for the brunette song girl that was on all the FOX Sports promos in southern california when i lived there.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

dont forget that song girl GIF.

it looked a little like this

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a post I made yesterday,

I stated that:

I swear, it seem like 99.2% of their fans (on message boards) are morons. I am sure this isn’t the case, but it is just so hard to find a solid USC poster. Has anyone else noticed this or am I just crazy?

And you have been helping to prove my case. So…thank you!

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

What have I said moronic?

Or, is it your debate tactic to always call your sparring partner a moron? I prefer debates of substance, rather than playground name calling tantrums. If you have anything of substance to add to the discussion, I would love to hear it.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am just used to seeing comments like these from USC fans:
But, too bad that your AD and Coach are too scared to risk an L in OOC.

This could actually happen. I don’t think that our coach or AD are scared. They scheduled a preseason top ten Clemson team two years ago, a preseason top ten Virginia Tech last year, and a preseason top twenty Penn State this year. They are going for bigger OOC oppoents.

but I believe the PacX has better depth than the SEC. Finally, we play a full round robin. There is no tougher conference schedule than a full round robin in a deep league.

Of course. Round Robin is the greatest ever. It is in the Pac 10 handbook to repeatedly say this and avoid playing in a conference championship game.

FIU, UTC and North Texas? I’m not convinced.

What about the #2 SOS? Should they have replaced one of these patsies with a stronger BCS opponent and jumped all the way from #2 to #1? The rest of the country was convinced.

My national champ last season is Boise St.

Of course! Because they had a much better SOS. No. Well, they beat more top ten teams. No. Well, they beat more top 30 teams. No. Why? Hatred for the SEC perhaps?

Since 1998, the Pac10 leads the SEC in head to head games 11-9, for a 55% winning percentage.

This had, absolutely, nothing at all to do with what you were responding to.

BSU beat TCU. TCU slaughtered Utah. And, when Utah recently played Bama, well, you know the rest….

Again, what does this have to do with anything. And when you have to use transitives, you know you are losing the argument.

He beat you guys everywhere but on the scoreboard in Tuscaloosa with an inferior team.

A.K.A. He lost. So this was extremely pointless. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.

That really hurts, Lawyer Doofus

your unique brand of football insight continues to amaze me. you’re kind of like the Barney Fife of this Mayberry, aren’t you?

Insults! A USCw poster’s secret defense…

Is that enough for you? It’s just all the same recycled crap that I hear from almost every USCw fan. I don’t expect you to “get it.”

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do get it
They scheduled a preseason top ten Clemson team two years ago, a preseason top ten Virginia Tech last year, and a preseason top twenty Penn State

Home, neutral, home. Kudos for playing one real OOC game, but weak sauce for never playing on the road.

Why Boise St? Hatred for the SEC perhaps?

No, because BSU beat TCU who slaughtered Utah who hammered Bama in a recent bowl matchup.

The scoreboard is the only thing that matters.

Disagree. What matters is that he outplayed Bama in Tuscaloosa with inferior talent outcoaching the pants off of Saban.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are content to “outplay” a team and still lose, you and Hello Kiffykins are going to get along famously.

That’ll make USC’s annual loss to some team that couldn’t compete in the MAC a little easier to cope with, I’m sure.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

fla st, clemson, and va tech were all neutral site games, we start a hoem and home w/ penn state this year.

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

also, the utah team that beat bama (08')

also slaughtered the 08’ TCU team.

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

tempebamafan,

please don’t use his own arguments against him. It’s not fair. :)

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you get it, why did you respond to less than half of my points?

Oh…that’s because I am right and everyone but you knows it.

…but in response to your garbage:

Home, neutral, home. Kudos for playing one real OOC game, but weak sauce for never playing on the road.

What sucks for you, is that it doesn’t matter if we play road games or not. Alabama’s SOS is still going to be stronger than most everyone else’s. And this year, they do travel to Durham, N.C. for a game. And don’t even try to make a comment about it just being Duke. They were 5-7 last year and so was the Washington team that beat USC. Also, next year they will travel to Happy Valley.

No, because BSU beat TCU who slaughtered Utah who hammered Bama in a recent bowl matchup.

Dear, God, I cannot even respond to this stupidity. Apparently, babies do get dropped on their heads sometimes. And I am not trying to offend you. That is the nicest way I can put it for that kind of argument.

Disagree. What matters is that he outplayed Bama in Tuscaloosa with inferior talent outcoaching the pants off of Saban.

He did not “outplay Bama.” First of all, he didn’t play. He was the coach. And is Alabama having a 9 point lead up until 3 minutes left in the game really called getting “outplayed” now? Sounds like someone doesn’t really know that much about that game.

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer debates of substance

Fantastic news.

…when were you planning to start?

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by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right after you, my friend
I’d say he came off like he doesn’t know a football from a hole in the ground.

.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, at least you’ve conceded that the drivel in the rest of this thread hasn’t been what you consider to be a debate of substance.

I was beginning to worry that you actually thought you were making legitimate points.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two points to Kleph...

…for correctly using one of the “words of the day” in panjandrums. Not sure I could have pulled it off.

I voted for Notre Dame.

by Queen of the Universe on May 27, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I want to kick thebronco

out of Boise State and shut up their whining!

by FloraBama on May 27, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too!

Except for the whining part. We aren’t doing much whining about anything. But I’d love for Boise State to play Alabama. Have your AD contact Boise State’s, Shoot him an email or something.

I’d love to see your guys try to pull off that ridiculous fake punt again that they pulled in the NCG. Then the Broncos could run theirs and show you how it’s done. All kidding aside, it’d be a great game win or lose. We should campaign our AD’s for it.

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by Mikrino on May 28, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn that PJ Fitzgerald!

My grandma could have completed that pass. :)

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Watch your mouth...

…nobody talks about PJ like that…ask Brandon James why….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 1, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough for me

I picked Nebraska. If SBNation allowed Heisman-type voting I would have done the following:
1. Nebraska
2. Notre Dame
3. Boise St.
Also receiving consideration: Iowa, Oklahoma, Miami, Florida St.

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by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I picked Iowa

Based on the gold RBR and BHGP could create together

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by DocFumbles on May 27, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I picked Texas,

to give us another chance to work on evening up that series. But now that I think about it, Texas will never stand a chance against us again, now that McCoy is out.

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree.

And he did a helluva job against us. Just satirizing the “Bama only won because McCoy was out” sentiments.

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Utah

I don’t think I have to explain.

by dapado33 on May 27, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Boise State

I want to see those smug bastards get stomped.

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by Viliphied on May 27, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

If it was Hiesman style
  1. Boise St.
  2. Cal (A game I could go to easily!)
  3. USC (Would also love to see them get stomped)

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by Viliphied on May 27, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

cal isn't a bad choice...

they are the only pac 10 school to ever beat alabama in a bowl game.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever?

Wow, I didn’t know that. Of course the SEC doesn’t play the PAC-10 very often in bowls, but still.

by CarrotTop4 on May 27, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I originally voted for USC,

but after seeing how they act in Kleph’s fanpost over there (it’s laughable for USC to be bashing our strength of schedule. CBS had us ranked 5 in SOS at the end of the year, to USC’s 40-something), I’d like to change my vote to Notre Dame.

by squinky86 on May 27, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

yup

Honestly their OOC schedule in 2010 looks strong enough, but that only counts for something when you manage to win. Also, Kiffin just doesn’t deserve to be on the same field with Saban. Also, we would have nothing but smack talk coming our way even after winning that game.

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by billycthulhu on May 27, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

As I am originally from TN, I still have to put up with the “Bama Cheated” chorus. No amount of logic or reading from the rulebook assuages the vomit, inside-of-a-pumpkin orange.

It’s frustrating enough with one team singing that chorus; no use adding another vocal fanbase (and clearly another illogical one) to it.

by squinky86 on May 27, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

for YOUR logic

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by LittleSis on May 27, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd...

…for this:

Kiffin just doesn’t deserve to be on the same field with Saban.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 27, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Happens at all sites...no fan base is perfect...

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand. Even though I’ve never met Kleph, I consider him a friend. Smack-talk and friendly jabs are one thing (I find it entertaining and fun), but personal insults at the character of someone you don’t know is unacceptable:

. . . .you and I have had some interesting back and forths over at Roll Bama Roll. And you know you are someone I don’t like or respect. You talk a good talk, now and again- but you totally lost my respect when you tried to tell me there are no pyramids in Peru and that I read about my travels in South America from a travel book. You’re a dick and you know it.

Don’t come over here talking about a storm’s about to come (Bama wants SC), and cry like baby when you say, "Shit! It’s raining!" (back up your shit already, punk!)

Whatever dude.I understand most SC fans are not like this, but the attitude over there was vocal and overwhelming. There’s nothing wrong with saying, “Hey, Alabama wants to play USC!” There is something wrong with calling the one who brings it to your attention the words quoted above.

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

The quotation didn't work right. The quotation from USC should have been:

All of the following is a quotation from the USC blog; the blockquote didn’t work right:

 . . . .you and I have had some interesting back and forths over at Roll Bama Roll. And you know you are someone I don’t like or respect. You talk a good talk, now and again- but you totally lost my respect when you tried to tell me there are no pyramids in Peru and that I read about my travels in South America from a travel book. You’re a dick and you know it.

Don’t come over here talking about a storm’s about to come (Bama wants SC), and cry like baby when you say, “Shit! It’s raining!” (back up your shit already, punk!)

Whatever dude.

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

is that what's bothering him?

sheesh. get a life.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

are there pyramids in peru?

i know they got them cool ass nazca lines or whatever, and of course machu pichu, but never heard of no pyramids in peru…

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

there a number of large burial structures

that are considered pyramids in a technical sense but absolutely nothing on par with what the mayans built which is what indiana jones here was referring to.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are you calling me Indiana Jones?

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by BixBeiderbecke on May 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

You’re only funny to a few people. Not me.

I don’t give a pass to people accusing me of being a liar, nor to those who “think” they know what they’re talking about. You sure talk a good talk for some people, but I see your kind from a mile away. Not only do I find it amusing, you’re predilection for attempting to know a world of people you’ll never ever fully grasp- I find your manners (in everything that defines a true man) entirely distasteful.

That’s one of the many reasons, kleph- your endeavors in South America/Peru (if, that’s what you’re still claiming to be doing) will get you nowhere. And despite the fact that I have no “mestizo” blood in me whatsoever- we native South Americans have one thing in common: when a spade is a spade, we yell, “Negro!” (black, not in any derogatory sense. no. uh-uh. just “Black!”)

That’s what you are. And although it’s not meant derogatorily- it’s not a good thing.

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by BixBeiderbecke on May 29, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't call you liar

i called you ignorant.

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's better

Answer me this Mr. Berenson: (there’s a few of ‘em maestro, hope you got your thinking-cap on) what’s the importance of pyramids to begin with? What are pyramids used for? Where did I EVER say or write the pyramids of the Columbian empire resemble or were in any way intact? (I only said, anthropological data supports the idea that although a large number of the vast, rich, and powerful empires of the Americas competed for domination throughout the areas from Mexico down through to the Andes- some quite warring, others- peaceful, a great number of the elevated roads leading in, out, and through these areas may very well have been “linked”. And the assumption is probably due to vast inner-empirical pilgrimages for religious or important ceremonial purposes. That is it, and that’s all that I wrote regarding a probable Maya-Moche/Nazca connection)

Further, the sites in Peru (most have not been dolled-up or restored to their full splendor) have suffered from an unfortunate called “erosion”. Look it up, it might help in the ignorance-department. The fact that Machu Picchu remains a site to behold to this day, (instead of the number of known and identified PYRAMIDS littering Tocume, Caral, and so forth) is because Machu Picchu is/was a fairly recent development with a terraced layout high in the mountains and not a lowland development built long ago that had to suffer the elements of wind, rain, and consequently- MASSIVE EROSION.

Kleph, the issue on where we differ on what a pyramid in Peru constitutes- the fact you yourself called it “burial site” proves that I’m right. You’re wrong. Sure, these sites don’t look like Uxmal, Chichen Itza, or Tikal- but guess what? The Mexican government had the resources, temerity, and diligence to fully restore these ancient sites to a wonderful (albeit, not full) glory.

Never did I say Sipan rivals Chichen Itza. That was never part of our conversation. Only the roads leading out of these empire are and were connected. And that, dude- is the prevailing thought of the professionals far more knowledgeable in this matter than you and I combined.

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by BixBeiderbecke on May 29, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

cool it y'all...

…seriously.

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by Todd on May 29, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Todd, this is an RBR moderator?

He said, flat out- “There are no pyramids in Peru”, originally. I begged to differ, vociferously- and with pictures/links. I’ve been to Tocume! Our docents, Quecha-speaking natives of Peru- calls them pyramids as well as countless other scientists, researchers, indigenous/native Peruvians, as well as the rest of the known world. His response: “[something about] Lonely Planet” (I didn’t get it at first, thinking he’s 2 bananas shy of a bunch) then only later, I find out that “Lonely Planet” refers to a travel book for vacationing in exotic locales off-the-beaten path.

Seriously, that was his response. This, from a guy with a hard-on for the Panama Canal.(Oedipus, much?)

Basically, in order: I’m lying, that I never traveled to Peru, I’m deluded to think I visited and walked around the hallowed grounds of ancient pyramids of Peru, and- changing his tune today to define me as being ignorant, spreading chaos wherever I go, and- one more thing: I have a prescription or addiction for/to medication/drugs.

Your moderator is full of bullshit and whenever tries to present his side of facts or whatever it is you want to call it- he digs himself a deeper whole. He made this an issue. With his own thoughts and words. No one forced him into any of this.

I’ll say this: all he has to do is look into a mirror and find a liar. A fraud. I have never wanted any part of debating about pyramids in Peru. I mean, . . . . .WTF? But it doesn’t and hasn’t sat well with me, his supposed knowledge of and living in Peru. And besides, who likes being called a liar?

He hasn’t provided one shred of evidence regarding that fact that pyramids do not or have not existed in Peru. And then today he tries to wriggle himself an angle by dropping, “. . .but absolutely nothing on par with what the Mayans built.” That BS has and had nothing to do with what are debate is/was all about.

I can think of a lot of things to call this guy, kleph. Intelligent, funny, and well-mannered is in no way descriptive of him.

(fwiw: yeah, I called him out on CC- and the reason is, he tried high-tailing out of his own thread because he got called things he said to another commenter. I had a feeling he was pulling the same crap on the other guy, that he did with me. Which is, not backing up his words and trying to finagle his way out with veiled aspersions (see above. hell, take a look at his history!) after our last meltdown, the very next day or soon after- I visited/commented on a post he had written and tried to reach out to him. i felt badly about our exchanges and wanted to put it behind us. he either didn’t reply back to me, or he offered nothing in return. what i’m trying to tell you is that I apologize to you, Nico, OTS, Pete, and the rest of the wonderful community here at RBR for my behavior and words towards kleph. i am sorry for taking away from the topic at hand and “pitching a fit”. my manner and tone was way off over at CC, but from my view of it all- he had it coming to him. i am sorry. it’s been wrong of me to have put you all through this. let’s just say i don’t and continue to not like this guy. he’s gotten my goat because of what he’s been putting other people through. the last two times I’ve called him out were for other members. one here on RBR and just recently over at CC. I will make every effort to avoid reading kleph’s drivel, but I’ll make no promises. It’s really all up to him. -Bix

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by BixBeiderbecke on May 29, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by kleph on May 30, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's actually kinda hilarious!

Good one. (you’re still cracker cliff claven. man, you better be glad you’re a ‘Bama fan- I’m sure I got myself a hefty-bag full of nuevo soles somewhere in storage, work on my latest 007-moves, hunt you down like the turkey you are, and. . . . . . .prolly buy you a beer before we start thumpin’!)

Or some variation, thereof.

I’ve only been to 2 wineries today, but I think I must not be spittin’ all that Pinot Noir out. Because, my girl told me NOT to “get online”. . . . .but I’m glad I did, actually. This pic and commentary cracked me the fuck up.

You’ve only won one, this one from above. Putano!

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by BixBeiderbecke on May 30, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kleph, you do look kind of foolish

Care to swallow your pride and admit your human propensity to err for once in your life? Your imperfections seem to be on full display in this thread.

by DFWTrojan on May 30, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 31, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pac-10 is full of fans who miss the scheduling forest for the trees . . . they spend so much time focusing on the ooc — the part that only takes up 25% of a schedule — that they forget the fact that in any given year there’s maybe one other pac-10 team that can step on the field with the top 10.

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by PeteHoliday on May 27, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would gladly leave the Pac 10 so we could go independent

The OOC schedule is all we can really control…so i would be happy to dump 1 or 2 in conference games for a tougher OOC slate.

I am sure my opinion is not in the majority…

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is precisely the argument

a few pundits are making for texas. don’t think either will happen but it makes an interesting hypothetical with all the talk of conference expansion/realignment.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no interest in expanding the PAC 10

If anything I would say contract it…go back to the PAC 8 but gnat is awhile can of worms…

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That not gnat...

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by Paragon SC on May 27, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, sure, the OOC is the part you can control, that’s true, and I think we’d all prefer if bcs conference teams didn’t play any gimmes, but it is disingenuous to say that a team is playing a weak schedule until the whole schedule has been examined, not just a few OOC games.

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by PeteHoliday on May 27, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since 1998, the Pac10 has an 11-9 lead in head to head with the SEC

Your premise that the SEC is historically the stronger conference is dead on arrival. Sure, there’s year to year fluctuations, and I would give 2009 to the SEC, but historically the Pac10 wins on the field.

Next argument?

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

No arguments here: at the bottom of our power, we lost to UCLA in 2001, so we’re contributing to that statistic. Note but a couple years ago, the statistic could be claimed as 11-7 (again by adjusting the starting date); now it’s 11-9, and it will keep changing depending on what years you chose to establish your statistics for.

Your argument is as stupid as Auburn fans stating that they’re 6-2 in the past 8 years. There’s no argument as to who is currently the better football team, but yes, you can start and stop statistics at any years you want to prove your point.

I’ll tell you what I tell the just as ignorant Auburn fans – if you’re going to live in the past, live in all of it (not selective parts of it)!

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's relevant to your argument

that USC historically plays an easy conference schedule. this argument has been dismantled.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

??? What does in-conference scheduling have to do with cherry-picking start dates for statistics? Thanks for dismantling an argument I didn’t make?

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I have it – let’s set the start date to 2009.

points at trophy case

^ there’s my argument.

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Squinky

I was countering Lawyer Doofus, not you. You seem to offer sound arguments.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Learn which “reply” button to press, then.

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oooh, do I get to be “Lawyer Doofus”? Let’s pretend I am.

Here’s a tip: if you’re going to play with numbers, you should be a little more careful about how you choose them and what obvious data you choose to ignore, otherwise anyone with a clue is going to think you’re some kind of charlatan.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, but that title is already taken. I don’t understand why someone would be so insulting to me without even knowing me!

by Lawyer Doofus on May 28, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who you callin’ a doofus?!?!

by Lawyer Doofus on May 28, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Top half Pac-10 teams play bottom-half SEC teams and they barely scrape by .500?

GO PAC-10!!

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by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, let's start at 1998

SEC is 6-0 in BCS championship games.

by Lawyer Doofus on May 28, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry our schedule is full

we can’t drop San Jose State for Bama

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by GopherNation on May 27, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

you guys

are one of the teams included specifically for revenge purposes.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bama's schedule

I cannot believe USC fans comparing our schedule to Boise St and saying they are the true champions. We play in the SEC and if i remember right LSU went to Washington and won and Alabama beat everyone we played, have fun with kiffin and his probation waiting to happen.

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pie time!

i’ll be updating this image as the poll progresses.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

yummy!

nebraska was my vote. it would have been usc if kiffin weren’t there…

(EXCELLENT color coding choices – though that boise blue hurts my eyes even in a small representation)

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by LittleSis on May 27, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for this
though that boise blue hurts my eyes even in a small representation

Completely unreasonable, but funny noneheless, I like it.

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by Mikrino on May 28, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love that USC is yellow.

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by Loque on May 28, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

actually that was a bit of a problem

as every damn team on the list seemed to have some variation of red as their color.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

My apologies.

Nelson thought the pun of “yellow” applied to USC was funny, not at your color selection.

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by Loque on May 29, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why Notre Dame?

Anyone care to explain why you are itching to play this decaying dinosaur in the football landscape? They haven’t been consistently relevant since Holtz left. What’s the point?

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's adorable

when you actually admit your ignorance about something.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

for example, everyone feels significantly better about their lot in life whenever you are around.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, exactly!

I will never understand this kind of person. You know, the type that always thinks they are right, but is always wrong. They lose 98% of the arguments they are in and everyone else knows they are wrong, but this type of person can never see it. I just don’t understand this breed. Something had to go wrong somewhere…

by Crimson2007 on May 28, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you DFWTrojan.

Anyone who would schedule them these days is just looking for an easy W and should really consider some stronger OOC competition.

by TiderInTN on May 28, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look at that chart and think...

…good, we’re playing Oregon!

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by Nico2.0 on May 30, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oregon State was my OTHER vote

I like us to play teams that have some connection to the Tide. The Beavers are coached by Mike Rielly a former Bama player, so that’s a cool connection. Plus i’d like to take a trip to the Pacific NW.

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by That Other Dave on May 27, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Home and home would be great

Especially since I’m back in LA, the Tide coming out to the Coliseum would be awesome. And USC visiting Bryant-Denny for the first time would be special. Any fan, on either side, who can’t shut their pwnhole long enough to appreciate the immense history at play in an Alabama-USC showdown needs to be set on fire for the good of CFB. Sam Cunningham, debut of the wishbone, the shared title in ’78, Harry MFin Gilmer, this is bigtime lore.

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by kleph on May 27, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice!!!

Well done, Kleph.

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by pantsfucious on May 28, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damned if you do, damned if you don't

Imagine this scenario, which I feel is more than likely: You play $uc* and beat them. Their fans are going to say “you couldn’t beat us with old cheatie peatie at the helm!” So their “greatness” is already assured in their minds and beating them now isn’t going to make any converts.

What’s wrong with not playing them? Did it hurt your title this year? Nope. They just want to be in the mix even though they haven’t dominated the Pac-10 let alone another conference.

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by Bruins102NCAA on May 28, 2010 3:59 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm really not understanding this assumption that alabama doesn't want to play usc

if you look at the poll they are a very strong number two choice by the fanbase.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

I am not interested in turning RBR into a pissing match between USC and UCLA and maybe I misunderstood you, but these comments intrigued me…

Their fans are going to say "you couldn’t beat us with old cheatie peatie at the helm!"

Only a fool would would say something like that or someone who lives in the past…I don’t, but I can’t and won’t speak for anyone else.

Here is another Gem…

They just want to be in the mix even though they haven’t dominated the Pac-10 let alone another conference.

Really?

’SC has done pretty well against the SEC over the years. I wish we could play the SEC more and I would sign up for those games in a second regardless of the outcome. Win or lose some of those games would be epic (which is the point of the thread).

As for having not dominating the Pac-10… ‘SC has more than held its own, see the years 2002 thru 2008…if SC didn’t dominate the conference in those years then what would you call it?

Sucks to be irrelevant doesn’t it…

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 28, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all due respect

How can you say:

Only a fool would would say something like that or someone who lives in the past…I don’t

but then:

’SC has done pretty well against the SEC over the years…‘SC has more than held its own, see the years 2002 thru 2008…if SC didn’t dominate the conference in those years then what would you call it?

And that’s the mindset of the typical $uc* fan, you’ll take any position that suits you regardless if it contradicts something you stated earlier in the same post. Like you said, I don’t want to make this a pissing contest and I merely pointed out what, I think, would be said if Alabama played you and won. I deal with your fans everyday and I think I have some idea as to their mindset. Play them, I dare you… See what happens.

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by Bruins102NCAA on May 28, 2010 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Take it to your own blog, please.

We can defend ourselves, here. As much as we care about the thought of USC playing Alabama, we really don’t care that much what UCLA thinks of USC. If it’s the thought that counts, thanks for coming over and taking our side (I think….), but please leave your own rivalries at your own blogs. Thanks.

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 28, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey now

i’d rather have ucla peeps over here than usc. at least ucla folks can read and shit.

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind either of them being here...

but they can take their own differences to their own blogs.

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 28, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am SO sick of the 'living in the past' crap

alabama is constantly judged with the same argument – for 25 years we heard ‘the bear is dead’ bs. now though, since we are obviously operating in the present with 2 undefeated regular seasons and our most recent national championship, the boogs continue to refer to the 6-year run (now two years removed) they enjoyed AND noone else will STFU about Utah. the other day i even had a florida fan try to give me some shit for the 2008 SECCG. i mean, REALLY?

i just tell ‘em to go ahead and hate – it doesn’t change the view from the top.

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by LittleSis on May 28, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

the teams that tend to accuse us of this

are those that know the historical record is overwhelmingly against them. texas fans, you might note, didn’t have much of an issue with us dragging up the past prior to the MNC last year.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's only because

colt mccoy wasn’t hurt in our past games with texas

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by LittleSis on May 28, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh....

I so knew you would do that…

Point of reference is one thing (which is what I was doing).

To constantly harp on the past is foolish which is what i was referencing.

If we played ’bama and lost I would not say “well we would have beaten you with Pete Carroll” as you think some SC fans would. That is what I meant by living in the past.

That is foolish…maybe some would I wouldn’t.

You said we weren’t dominant in the conference…that would be correct for the year 2009. You weren’t clear in my eyes in regards to SC’s dominance so I simply pointed out that SC was pretty dominant in the years I indicated.

Simple as that.

Finally in respect to the many posters here that I have enjoyed commenting with In this and other threads here on RBR, I will refrain from commenting to your comments here…but I will continue to comment in this and other threads as is appropriate.

If you want to come to CC and debate it further let me know I’ll change your status and you can have at it.

Let me know…

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by Paragon SC on May 28, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's a difference in insisting one is dominant in the conference...

and saying that said dominance directly translates to every conference. the pac ten and the sec cannot be treated as exact equals in terms of strength of schedule and this is the point our little friend deliberately ignores in all of his arguments.

that said, insisting – as we do – that the sec is a stronger regular season slate than what the pac ten has to offer isn’t a knock on the team widely recognized as one of the premiere squads in the game. it’s isn’t usc’s fault it plays in the pac ten and nobody here is saying it is.

there is the little problem that usc has had a distressing habit of dropping games to inferior opponents within the conference over the past several seasons. that has to be taken into account if anyone wants to insist the trojans “dominate” the pac ten. in this regard, alabama clearly exceeds usc in recent seasons – one single loss to a conference opponent who was ranked No. 2 at the time nationally.

but to counter that with the insistence that we are playing the disrespect card is laughable. nobody, even the most ardent kiffin hater, is suggesting that usc is an inferior opponent in any way. (in fact, the poll itself undermines any suggestion alabama fans see usc as such).

now a lot of what i’m pointing out here exceeds the scope of your particular comment but, since you were responding in an earnest manner i felt it important to reply in a similar spirit. please feel free to comment in any thread on RBR as you feel necessary, you’re input is an asset to the discussion here.

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great points as usual Kleph...

It boggles the mind that ’SC has dropped some games to “inferior” PAC 10 opponents over the years. It has cost us at least two trips to the title game. That being said, it is probably semantics…to win the conference for 7 straight year is dominance even if the rest of the conference is down. The games still had to be played

I would also agree that the PAC 10 and SEC comparisons are difficult to muddle thru…let’s just say they are just different. There are difficulties for both conferences to play through.

I don’t take any of this discussion as disrespect…fans are always passionate, some may I don’t. There have been some great examples on both sides of the argument.

Both programs have a proud tradition and have been at the base of the growth of this sport…it’s a shame that powerhouses like our teams can’t play each other more often…

"Mention USC to a Bruin and they get angry; mention UCLA to a Trojan and they laugh."

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by Paragon SC on May 29, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is awfully nice of you Paragon

but I think the the atmosphere is rather acerbic between both sides of the rivalry. So, I would say that when things calm down a bit, go ahead and reinstate me if you want. Sometime on down the road, I’ll find out by scrolling down and not seeing “Banned by Conquest Chronicles” at the bottom of the screen.

To all the Bama fans, thanks for putting up with me. And to Kleph, your thoughts on the subject are both elucidating and entertaining.

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by Bruins102NCAA on May 29, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

in the interest of complete disclosure...

i hate ucla significantly more than usc. but that’s almost entirely because i was in attendance in pasadena on sept. 2, 2000.

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

As was I...

…but I’ll root for UCLA over USC as long as the Trojans are coached by LK….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 1, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

the acerbic nature will not change anytime soon...

you’re unbanned so let it fly…should be interesting…

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by Paragon SC on May 29, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only a U¢LA fan

would argue that 7 conference championships in the last 8 seasons is anything other than domination. Silly bRuins.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

you got beat by stanford AND washington

i’d say describing your status in the pac ten as “domination” is gilding the lilly a little bit.

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

When was the last time Bama won 7 conference champs in a row?

I don’t expect you to understand the concept of domination.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

just to be clear here...

you blast us for having inferior scheduling, and then boast about your ability to “dominante” an inferior conference lineup.

or, to put it another way, how many crystal footballs do you have to match those big pac ten trophies help you are so proud of?

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

We did it...

…the last time we were members of a weak conference like the Pac-10….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 1, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOLUTES!

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by kleph on May 28, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I think Kleph underestimated the jealousy of USC fans at our recent ascension and their recent UL-Monroe-type losses. Can we start banning USC trolls over here?

by squinky86 on May 28, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

IF I COULD REC 1000 TIMES, I WOULD

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by LittleSis on May 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's redirect the horses into the barn, or the chickens into their coops :-)

1) USC has called Bama in attempts to schedule a home and home series, per Steve Lopes

2) Bama has declined

3) Bama has not played a meaningful OOC series including an away game since OU in 2002

4) Bama’s OOC schedules since then have been filled w/ UL Monroe, Florida Intlt, North Texas, Middle Tenn, Duke, Western Kentucky, Western Carolina, Utah State, and Northern Illinois.

5) Bama does occasionally schedule a decent OOC opponent, a la, Clemson and Va Tech, but never on the road.

6) USC demands home and home series from its opponents, so Bama and USC will never play during the regular season as long as Bama maintains its creampuff philosophy.

Your integrity would shine through if just one of you would admit that Bama has a chickensh*t philosophy to pad their schedule with creampuffs OOC in an attempt to with the BCS beauty contest.

Bama plays the game and USC does not. Perhaps USC should adopt the Bama scheduling philosophy. This has been a subject of serious debate. But, for the love of god, please just call it like it is.

Bama plays the BCS game and dines on creampuffs. Thus, Bama and USC will not play any time soon during the regular season.

by DFWTrojan on May 28, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's slant the truth and post it as fact!

You do a good job of missing the point badly.

1) You take Lopes’ quotation WAY out of context. He said that the earliest it could happen is 2015. Alabama wants to be that 2015 date:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Your-USC-SEC-fantasies-are-at-least-six-years-aw?urn=ncaaf,165990

2) Again, let’s take Lopes’ quotation out of context!

3) V.Tech, Clemson, and Texas all disagree.

4) You’re right. This needs to be rectified. If we play more creampuff in-conference teams, we’d be able to play as many ooc juggernauts as the paragon of football domination – USC! (end sarcasm)

5) Clemson, Tech, and Texas were hardly home games.

6) Bama likes home-and-homes, and this is in the negotiations for 2015+ (see Pen State in 2010 season)

If USC had half the schedule Bama did, three losses would be considered a good season.

Bama processes the competition and dines on champions. Yes, there’s 2-3 creampuff games a year – FAR FEWER than USC’s creampuff scheduling.

by Lawyer Doofus on May 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

1, 2, 5) Alabama has scheduled a quality OOC opponent every season that Saban has had any say in the scheduling. Why we would want a home and home with USC is beyond me. There are so many great teams to play — many of them a better draw than USC would be — USC should take one neutral site game and be thankful we deign to play them.

3,4) USC hasn’t played a quality conference slate since the 1900’s.

6) Let’s turn this around: as long as USC is more interested in getting a home game payday than they are in playing a team like Alabama, there won’t be a USC/Bama matchup. This is understandable, though… 5-star recruits don’t pay themselves.

Your integrity would shine through if just one of you would admit that Bama has a chickensh*t philosophy to pad their schedule with creampuffs OOC in an attempt to with the BCS beauty contest.

Your intelligence would shine through if you would recognize the fact that the conference schedule is 75% of a team’s schedule and, therefore, playing in a superior conference trumps playing an extra home-and-home series. There’s nothing “chickenshit” about playing against a top ten SOS.

Bama plays the game and USC does not.

Don’t be so hard on yourselves. USC is a very respectable program, despite playing in the PAC-10.

Bama plays the BCS game and dines on creampuffs.

‘09-’10 Season end SOS:

6) Alabama
. . .
39) Southern Cal

While Alabama is supposedly “dining on creampuffs” USC is playing a schedule more than 30 ranks weaker.

I’m pretty sure that’s game, set, match in the scheduling discussion.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

BOOM

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I should add

…we’d have had the #1 SOS if we had been given credit for the A-Day game.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 28, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd for TRUTH.

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 28, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

now THERE'S some logic!

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by LittleSis on May 28, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tide Number 1

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by billycthulhu on May 28, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great thing about this pic...

…three of those six men will be back this season…the returning BCS MVP, the returning Heisman winner, and — most importantly — the best coach in the country….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 1, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

damnit i gotta go to work

hopefully i have a a bigger cube next (movin on uuuup) and will be able to read while @ work again…. i hate having to set the example, its so unfair….

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by tempebamafan on May 28, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

REC THIS THREAD!

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on May 28, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

new pie!

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 6:28 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmm... Boise and Utah are gaining quickly.

Are we getting new visitors from those places voting perhaps?

by CarrotTop4 on May 29, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dont know why utah

would want another crack at us. if i was them i’d settle for the current winning percentage of 100….

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by tempebamafan on May 29, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

to show it wasn't a fluke.

and here is the boise state link to this thread.

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by kleph on May 29, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you find a hot fishin' hole

Fish it ‘til it’s empty. The Runnin’ Utes would love to play Bama every year.

by DFWTrojan on May 30, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

ask the gators how THAT worked for them

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Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on May 30, 2010 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

They should work on beating a lesser opponent year in and year out first.

I hear USC is looking for some home-and-homes.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on May 31, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

and when it comes to fishing...

we got that shit covered as well.

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by kleph on May 31, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow wow wow!

and who said the off-season is completely boring?

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Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on May 29, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions  

pie time!

one day left. so get your votes in.

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by kleph on May 30, 2010 7:09 AM CDT reply actions  

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