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Picture Me Rollin' came out of retirement a few weeks ago to take part and is now hosting, so without further ado:

1. There’s been a lot of talk about schedules and future opponents recently with Georgia Tech dropping off for 2012 and 2013. This question gets thrown around a lot, but it’s pertinent once again. Pretend you’re Mal Moore. Who do you target for a future home-and-home series or who would you seek for a one-shot, neutral site game?

I was all set to talk about how I love the one off neutral site games and am kind of happy that GT has been pushed back, opening up a couple of dates to play in Atlanta or Dallas against some non-standard OOC fare, but then I thought to myself "actually, if I were Mal Moore, I'd be doing some revenge scheduling, because I (by which I mean "I" Todd Jones, not Mal Moore) am a small, bitter person with an unhealthy tendency towards misdirected rage."  So even though it would be cool to play Miami in Atlanta or a Big 12 or Pac 10 team in Dallas, I want a home and home with Louisiana Monroe.

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NEVER FORGET!

That's right, we need to get the Warhawks on the schedule for some good ol' fashioned revenging.  As it stands we're 0-1 against ULM, so it's gonna take two games to get back on the winning side of the ledger.  Plus, I figure if we pay a visit to their stadium the same year we play at Baton Rouge, it would give us a chance to revel in some good, hearty coonass misery twice in one year.

2. The recently completed season has gotten us all filled with fresh, good memories. A new crop of players have completed their eligibility and endeared themselves to Crimson Tide faithful forever as have some guys that are still on the roster. Have any of the recent players unseated their predecessors for the top spots on your own personal "all-time greatest" players list? If so, who are they?

I can't really say I've ever had a defensive lineman that I just really loved, but who doesn't have a special place in their heart for Terrence Cody now?  I've openly lobbied the Girl to name our first born son "Terrence Cody Jones" and have recommended it as a name to some friends of ours that are expecting.  Even though neither of those scenarios will likely happen, I can tell you this: The next dog we get, it's gonna be a boy, and it's gonna be named Terrence Cody.

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I also have to say that Mark Ingram has become my new favorite Alabama running back.  I always considered Derrick Lassic to be my favorite because of the '93 Sugar Bowl, and I also always liked Shaud Williams if for no other reason than he transferred here from Texas Tech 'cause of Francione and then stuck it out after he left and played his heart out for Shula even though he had zero ties to the school or even state.  Plus, he was always the epitome of the "he plays bigger than his size" cliche to me.  But Ingram?  Man.  I keep going back and watching games and clips on YouTube, and he is just flat out amazing.  I have no doubt that Trent Richardson is just as good and will likely wind up being a "better" back the next few years, but the way Ingram runs is just beautiful.

And even beyond that, you just have to like the guy. You can't watch him accept the Heisman and go out of his way to thank every last person on the team and staff from the offensive line to Coach Saban to the interns without thinking he's either the most media savvy football player in the SEC or just genuinely a a good, humble kid. 

3. Conference expansion is all the rage across the country, which in my opinion is a response to the recent and foreseeable dominance in the SEC. Now expansion of our conference is being discussed as a possibility. Are you for or against expansion of the SEC and why? Whether you are pro-expansion or not, list the teams you like to see added (and/or removed) to the league roster if expansion takes place.

Honestly, I really hope the SEC doesn't expand into a 16 team mega conference like the one the Big 10 is supposedly considering.  Its just too much and I think it turns the whole concept of a "conference" into a joke.  With two eight team divisions, there's either going to be less inter-divisional play or we'll add another conference game to the schedule.  I don't like the former because it just makes the other side's teams even more unfamiliar, and I don't like the latter because it's less opportunity for big time OOC scheduling.  Now, my heart wouldn't be broken if Arkansas were to jump ship for the Big 12 like a lot of people think.  Nor would I shed any tears should South Carolina decide to head for the ACC or Big East where they might actually be competitive.  I mean, here it is almost 20 years later and they still just seem weird to me as conference members.  Of course, whoever replaced them would have to be a great fit because then we'd just be thinking the same thing in a decade, so I propose Georgia Tech and Tulane.  Yes, Tulane.  They have just as much history in the SEC as GT (actually, were in the Southern Conference/SEC for two years longer than Tech) and even though they suck now....ok, I can't really say anything about moving up to the SEC from CUSA would really get them over the hump with a straight face, but the fact remains they just fit with the conference from a historical standpoint better than Arkansas and SC ever will.

4. Pre-season indications (which are admittedly totally my own prognostications) are that our two biggest rivals, Tennessee and Auburn, are going to suck and be somewhat improved respectively. Agree or disagree?

Tennessee is just a horrible situation right now so have to agree there. I don't doubt that Dooley is the man for the job and, unfortunately for us, could very easily right the ship and get Tennessee back to a high level of achievement, but he's really got nothing to work with up there this season.  Auburn is anyone's guess, though.  If they can get some young guys to contribute on defense they'll have a better year, but they were still a 3-5 team in the conference last year and looked like the absolute luckiest team in the entire world at times.  West Virginia gave them a win with one boneheaded turnover after another, the bowl game was one of the most head scratchingly sloppy games I've ever seen, and there were so many times that they just seemed to stumble into wins.  So while I can't necessarily agree that they are going to suck, I can't disagree either, because you just never know when the wheels will come off the offense (a la Arkansas and Kentucky) and how long they'll stay off.

5. Tell us what team will be the biggest surprise, good or bad, in the SEC this season.

Ole Miss will be surprisingly good, if only because Houston Nutt's teams are always best when no one is paying any attention.  I'm not saying they are going to challenge for the division or anything, but another Cotton Bowl (or other New Year's Day Bowl) appearance isn't that far fetched either.

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for the record...

louisianians from monroe are not “coon asses.” the crazy catholic cajuns are denizens of the southern portion of the state. once you get north of the red river it’s just as bible belt baptist as anywhere else in the south.

and the upshot of ULM’s winning record against us is we can hold it against all of our sec rivals who don’t.

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by kleph on May 7, 2010 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

We need not worry about ULM...

…I took a business trip out to Dallas recently. I decided to drive out and took I-20 all the way. I burned down Monroe, Ruston and Knoxville(AL) on my way back. No need to thank me, just doing my duty as a loyal BAMA fan. ;)

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on May 7, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd be lying...

if i didn’t harbor a secret wish this were true if for no other reason than it would include the high school i attended.

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by kleph on May 8, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's

funny, I drove to Dallas last month along that same route and kept thinking “gawh Louisianna (sans NO) sucks.”

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on May 10, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Watching that video made me notice James Carpenter more too, he really moves down the field well on those big runs

by Alabama ManDance on May 7, 2010 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Noticed that too.

Along with the fact that, on that sweep play, SC’s deffense completely had the play diagnosed and were in the backfield to cause a negative play and Ingram bailed us out (much like he did the entire night).

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by Bens4vcobra on May 7, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you really want a revenge game..

i would think that Utah would be a bit more of a palatable opponent. But I consider all of that stuff in the past. Bring on OSU, USC or ND.

by tide96 on May 7, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

this:

(by which I mean “I” Todd Jones, not Mal Moore) “am a small, bitter person with an unhealthy tendency towards misdirected rage.”

…is really funny. And Glen Coffee is still higher on my list than Ingram, but just slightly. I loved that guy.

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow

no love for Shaun Alexander? Dude pretty much single handedly snapped the Gators home winning streak in ‘99 and caused Mike Dubose to get handed a lot of money he didn’t deserve.

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by Bens4vcobra on May 7, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure....

…him too. And David Palmer. It’s a really, really long list.

I just remember this play where Coffee dove into a pile of people and managed to keep his knees off the turf while making a second effort with his feet and finally scored. It was awesome.

I also loved that when given his shot to be featured on ESPN he quoted a Bible verse. The kid seemed to be a class act.

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

and bobby humphrey

if you haven’t read 3rd Saturday in Blogtober’s ode to bobby in their responses to this week’s C&W Roundtable, you need to head over there and give it a read toot sweet.

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by kleph on May 7, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

When I was really young...

….Humphrey was my hero because he was such a stud, but I was all of 9 years old when that game took place and had zero concept of the game beyond “Roll Tide!”

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by Todd on May 7, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

The very next year at the Orange Bowl, again versus Notre Dame, the Tide lost a chance to garner another National Championship when the Irish upset the Crimson Tide in Miami.

i was11 or 12 and i perfectly remember sitting in the floor of the den and crying my eyes out. that SO sucked.

and yes, 3SIB’s ode to bobby was definitely ‘toot sweet’. it made me want to watch that game again!

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by LittleSis on May 7, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Forgive my poor memory but

wasn’t it Ingram this past season that had the play (was it the SEC CG? I really gotta watch that again. Like tonight.) where they initially ruled him down on the one but the replay showed that as he was diving horizontally he actually pushed off the ground with his hand and held his knees up and got the TD.

Main thing I remember about the play is Gary Danielson’s comment on the replay, “It’s almost like he knew he had to keep his knees up.” Really Gary? Yeah Gary, it was almost like that.

by CarrotTop4 on May 7, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps...

…but I’m talking about Glenn Coffee for sure. My cousin, who was sitting next to me, yelled “Hot Coffee!” after that play. It was a long time ago, and I’m sure other players have done that often, that one just stood out in my mind.

I still maintain that Coffee was an all around bada***, and that’s why he’s still my favorite.

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt. Wasn't questioning you on that.

Just saying that Ingram has had some similar plays.

by CarrotTop4 on May 7, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

well...

…lucky for us we had Gary to explain the last one. Aren’t we super glad he’ll be featured in lots of broadcasts this fall?

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

I think he’s just explaining these things to Verne, who actually needs his help understanding basic football concepts

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by billycthulhu on May 7, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

technically, we are 1-1 against ULM because we beat them in 2006 like 41-7. I’m not sure if that win was vacated, but technically we are even.

Don't hate the great,.

by BAMApo on May 7, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Well since the win was vacated

Doesn’t the technicality still make it 0-1?

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by billycthulhu on May 7, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and no.

For them they are 1-1 against us, for us we’re 0-1 against them. Clear as mud, right?

Thanks NCAA.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on May 7, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

No ....

For them they are 1-1 … for us 1-1. For the NCAA, well, who cares! I’m not subject to any NCAA rules. Furthermore, if they want to vacate any victories, they’ll need to start refunding tickets for those make believe wins that I didn’t see.

by dt4bama on May 7, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I suspected my 'thanks' would have served as knowedge I did not agree with it.

That is why I never acknowledge the 1993 season’s NCAA record.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on May 7, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Play ULM!!

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on May 7, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

We still need to revenge....

…UCF, Rice and Louisiana Tech too.

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by Nico2.0 on May 7, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

That just made very sad.

I have to go watch the sec and nc games now to pick myself up.

I understand hate. I'm a Alabama fan.

by Destindune on May 7, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least NIU...

…was pretty good that year. They went 10-2 and I believe won the MAC.

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by Todd on May 7, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

that game was my introduction to Michael ‘Burner’ Turner

by bumblebeetuna on May 7, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at that la tech game in B-ham and thought we won when Tim Rattay...

went out. Some guy came in cold off the bench and threw a touch down it was like a bad dream, well like a bad dream that ended with me being covered with people bourbon and cokes thrown from behind me.

by chinesedentist on May 7, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think Utah

deserves to play us at our best and have a crimson boot shoved up their mormon asses…

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by bammer on May 7, 2010 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't hate on Utah 'cause we screwed up.

There’s no “revenge” to be had at Utah’s expense, we didn’t show up and they did. I’d like to see us play again because I think it would be a good game, but not to show them up or anything.

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by Todd on May 7, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

couldn't you say that about every upset?

NIU, UCF, La Tech? At the end of the day we lost those games cause we didn’t take them seriously…I see the need for revenge against Utah ’cause we were embarressed on national TV against a foe we should have beaten easily…Plus that loss contineus to give the mid majors something to cry about when we talk about automatic qualifiers…

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on May 7, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was exchanging emails with a blogger from a pac ten school last year

and mentioned i was optimistic about winning some game on the schedule. he then asked if we planned to pull down the goalposts if that happened. and i had to explain we don’t do that at alabama… that’s what other teams do when they beat us.

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by kleph on May 7, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

could you imagine

tearing down goal past at BDS….There isn’t a team or situation i can think of that would justify such an act.

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by bammer on May 7, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

precisely.

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by kleph on May 7, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!

I remember watching on TV as UGA (with many UGA friends) beat UT after several years of losing and then they tore down their goal post. My UGA friends thought it was great to tear down the goal post. I just thought, “That is why you are not Alabama.”

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on May 7, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teams we've played but never beaten

Team Record (last played)
Texas 0-7-1 (1981)
Rice 0-3 (1956)
Utah 0-1 (2009)
Oklahoma State 0-1 (2006)
Minnesota 0-1 (2004)
Northern Illinois 0-1 (2003)
Central Florida 0-1 (2000)
Villanova 0-1 (1951)
Georgia Pre-Flight 0-1 (1942)
Wisconsin 0-1 (1928)
Camp Gordon 0-1 (1917)
Carlisle 0-1 (1914)
Cumberland 0-1 (1903)
New Orleans Athletic Club 0-1 (1899)

I’d be OK with playing any of these institutions that still have teams. Rice being the only team we’ve played more than once and never beaten stands out to me, as does Minnesota. I’ve got some hard feeling towards them based on the post-game of the MCB. Wisconsin and Oklahoma State are the only other two BCS conference schools, so they’re high on the list as well.

by zeke2029 on May 7, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

amen to the "Minnesota" revenge...

…I will never forget their damn band playing “Rocky Top” as the clock ticked down on that game. Jerks.

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was you?

Me too!!! And all five of the gopher fans in attendance didn’t appreciate us that day, did they?

by Queen of the Universe on May 7, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Screw Minnesota, they're irrelevant...

… but admittedly a home-and-home series with Wisconsin would be kind of nice. I’d be shocked if it ever happened — nothing to gain from it, really, relatively to other big OOC opponents — but it’d be cool to make the road trip to Madison.

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by outsidethesidelines on May 7, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Madison is awesome!

Would love a home-and-home there!

by CarrotTop4 on May 7, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bama v. Georgia Pre-Flight 2012!

Make it happen!

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by billycthulhu on May 7, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Camp Gordon.

They think they’re so great with their hotshot quarterback Flash.

by CarrotTop4 on May 7, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

we need to add one more

Minnesota State, remember they beat us for the national championship, or was that on “Coach”

by bamagary on May 7, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

ULM wont play us again

They are still reveling in their upset,and they know a major beat down would be in store if they tangled with the Tide again.

by Crimsoncaller on May 7, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

money talks, my friend.

money talks.

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by kleph on May 7, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tulane

As a Tulane alum, I would love to see them move to the SEC but the only thing we would be able to compete in is baseball (they just built a new stadium on campus, instead of playing of minor league field). The football team plays in the Super Dome, so capacity is no issue. The basketball arena is small, but there is talk of expansion and obviously if they move to SEC, that would be rectified. Look out Mississippi State were gonna rumble for those bottom two spots.

Are private institutions allowed in SEC?

GT is a no brainer… think about UGA vs GT rivalry if they are in the same conference and both SEC East, wicked.

by Norml912 on May 7, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Our

quota is actually zero but we made an exception for them.

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by Bens4vcobra on May 7, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on May 7, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

in 2006

we beat ulm i forgot the score but were 1-1 against ’em

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by logansaban on May 8, 2010 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Tulane

I believe that everyone Tulane fan would love to be back in the SEC. The Wave fits historically and geographically. Tulane has just re-committed so to speak to atlhetics and Indoor Practice facilities have been approved. In time Tulane will be able to compete. New Orleans has always been a destination city and in no time Tulane will be pulling come recruits away from LSU like they have historically. What a dream situation, if it happens no one would be sorry, it would be a perfect fit for everyone involved.

by Wavetime on May 8, 2010 3:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry.

Tulane is not going to pull any good ones away from LSU even with Miles at LSU. They are not coming back into the SEC. They should have never left. But that was their choice. Now days there are at least ten schools that would be invited into the SEC before Tulane including: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., FSU, Clemson, Miami, UNC, NC St. and Louisville.

And that doesn’t even count Ga Tech whom also left. I don’t want Tech back, but they would be ahead of Tulane if the SEC decided to consider teams who left and want to come back now that they seem to need the money.

In fact I’d even go so far as to say that Southern Miss, USF, and VT have a better shot than Tulane. And they have no shot.

Just because your school is in a cool town doesn’ t mean anything.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on May 8, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is your al.com screen name? Cause sometimes you sound like one of those guys.
Just because your school is in a cool town doesn’ t mean anything.

That white stuff on the top of chickencrap is.....chickencrap.

by thrashcan on May 9, 2010 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tulane and MS. St.

Tulane to this day has more football SEC championships then MS. St.

by Wavetime on May 8, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

If Miss St left the SEC today and then asked to get back in 50 years later,

we wouldn’t take them back either.

We’re not looking to add 10th place teams.

by CarrotTop4 on May 9, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

honestly

a match for vanderbilt in the other division isn’t a terrible idea.

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by kleph on May 9, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tulane in the SEC?

Would be awesome.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 11, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

They also have more...

…than Vandy, SC, and Arky.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on May 11, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

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