The Big XII is Dead: We're Moving On
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 4:08 PM CDT
in Football
Email
PrintAnd so the inevitable has come to pass, per Joe Schad:
University of Texas regents will meet next week to decide whether the Longhorns will remain in the Big 12 or switch to another conference, setting the table for an unprecedented realignment of power conferences in college sports.
A source within the Big 12 told ESPN's Joe Schad on Friday that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are poised to announce they intend to join the Pac-10 as early as Tuesday, with Texas A&M still not firmly on board.
The Big XII is dead, period. Colorado left. Nebraska stormed off two hours ago, refusing to pay the buyout and publicly bashing Texas on the way out out the door. Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State, truth be told, have most likely already decided to join the Pac-10, leaving only the official formal procedures for next week. Texas A&M may legitimately want to go to the SEC, but political and cultural realities will never allow it; in time, they'll follow the rest of the herd out west to the Pac-10. Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and Baylor will be left in the wake, hoping with all their might that the Big Ten will come save them from the burning wreckage of the Big XII, all the while realizing the harsh reality that some sort of an alliance with the Mountain West Conference is likely in their future. Chip Brown will get a king's ransom when it's all said and done from a big publishing house to write the definitive tell-all on how everything went down.
Perhaps the only real question mark at this point is the time that this all begins. Previously it has been assumed that none of these changes would take place before 2012, but Nebraska is apparently hoping that they can join competition in the Big Ten beginning in 2011. That won't really affect any of the structural changes themselves in any way, but it does give a sense of just how closely all of these changes are to becoming concrete reality. We're not talking way on down the road here, we're talking about fourteen months to go.
That said, however, It's all over at this point, it's really just a matter of the final official confirmations on the things we all know are going to happen anyway. And as such, there's really no reason to keep beating this dead horse. We've covered it, I think, as closely as possible here at RBR, and while we'll keep the confirmations updated, unless something drastic unexpectedly changes, it's time to move on to other subjects.
Particularly, this... with the Pac-10 moving to sixteen teams and the Big Ten moving to at least fourteen, it's clear that the SEC will expand in kind. So, for now, it's time to stop beating the Big XII horse to death and start focusing on the viable expansion candidates on the radar screen of the SEC. I'll have an overview piece up probably sometime over the weekend, but at least by Monday.
93 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
If somehow you could work KU into the SEC in that overview piece, I'd appreciate it
kthxbye
The Process of Champions
If you wish, sure...
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You say there is no way that A&M will be allowed
to seperate from Texas? Why? A&M is no longer the little sister to Texas as they were in the past. One could argue that it would be beneficial for them to move to a different conference. A chance to win apart from Texas. It would not necessairly cost them their rival game with Texas (See FSU, Florida and South Carolina, Clemson) One could argue that it’s time for for them to grow up and strike out on their own.
It's hard to say what's been most impressive. The seamless jump from AA? The ability to hit for average? The ability to hit for power? The 18 walks in 111 trips to the plate? The flair for the dramatic? When you're trying to isolate the most impressive aspect of Jason Heyward's game, there's a lot to choose from, and it's only been a month and a half.
Again, political reality...
Even if it would be better for Texas A&M in the SEC (and I think there’s a good case for that), you are still dealing with state institutions that are ultimately ran by the will of the political majority, and the political majority wants Texas and Texas A&M together. For some more concrete examples, here are some quotes in the Nebraska thread from this morning on the subject:
For the same reason in 1948 that the Alabama legislature mandated that we start playing the Barn again. If you don’t do what we ask, you get no (or less) money.
There is a multibillion dollar fund that the Tx lege holds for its universities. Comply or the alums of one school or another will cut off access to those monies. It was the threat used to take Baylor when the BXII was formed.
TaxMan rightly points out it ($$) was used to make the Barn and Bama series resume. And, it’s why South Carolina has to play South Carolina State.
It’s simple, they are state institutions and they respond to the will of the state, and to that end the political aspect can control practically everything that an institution does. The power of the purse is the biggest influence, of course, but it can go deeper than that.
Think about it this way… these regents vote to split up Texas and Texas A&M, what do you think the odds are of them getting their terms renewed?
Know what I mean, Verne?
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
Than why is that political majority not forcing Baylor into the Pac-10?
It's hard to say what's been most impressive. The seamless jump from AA? The ability to hit for average? The ability to hit for power? The 18 walks in 111 trips to the plate? The flair for the dramatic? When you're trying to isolate the most impressive aspect of Jason Heyward's game, there's a lot to choose from, and it's only been a month and a half.
by Richie Grogan on Jun 11, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
They tried...
… last week (failed by a small margin) and succeeded in 1994.
But realistically, though, you cannot compare Baylor and A&M. The Aggies are infinitely bigger and more-coveted, plus they have immeasurable more fan support.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
but if the aggies make their own case
politically and financially, for moving to the SEC. dont the political structures in texas have to take note of that argument ? and dont you think there could be a chance (not that i want them in the SEC) that aTm isn’t just blowing smoke?
The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage
by tempebamafan on Jun 12, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
How often does
South Carolina play SCState? It’s not on the schedule for 2010.
http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/scar-m-footbl-sched.html
by Darby Up The Middle on Jun 11, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
They did in '07 and '09.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he just left off "State"
The Cyclones are pretty forgettable save the Tony Yelk shanked kick and Chizik nickels!
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony Yelk
Sad times and repressed memories, I had ALMOST forgotten that we played Iowa State in the Independence Bowl. Thanks for the refresher. Also Troy Davis’ 2000 yard season comes to mind.
"It's not revenge he's after, it's a reckoning."
by superstition on Jun 11, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
re: Kansas
I saw someone comment on another post here that KU would be a natural in C-USA. I think that makes a whole bunch of sense, at least from an on-field (and on-court) perspective. They are a fairly mediocre football program with a strong b’ball program. They would have a natural rivalry with Memphis.
I haven’t seen any talk of this; any chance it could happen? Or does the MWC’s potential to become a BCS conference outweigh that?
Eh, that's tough...
… clearly Conference USA would be a much better basketball conference, and to that end it will probably get some consideration.
On the other hand, I really don’t think Kansas can desert the Big XII / MWC if those two can salvage a guaranteed BCS bid every year. That’s just entirely too much cash for them to walk away from, a large chunk of which will be re-invested in their men’s basketball program. Anything could happen, of course, but I imagine that would outweigh any potential for joining CUSA.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think, since Mizzou is the odd man out
We should make a move for them. And, yes, I’m serious.
The have a good athletic program (their basketball will make UK happy), half of the state is ozarky or mid-south. They are AAU and bring academic creds. Good TV markets
And, they meet the cultural prerequisites of (most) SEC states: one or two decent sized cities amidst a sea of rednecks and small towns.
Bonus points: They started the Civil War!
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
Kansas City ring a bell?
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be a solid choice...
It would be a solid choice, admittedly. Solid football (at least Ole Miss-esque), good school, good TV markets, good BBQ. Plus, they are so desperate at this point they’d sell their souls cheaper than an aging Vietnamese hooker. And, it’d be cool to call ’em “Missourah.” We could certainly do worse.
On the other hand, though, man, that is a long way away. It’s a solid 200 miles north of Fayetteville, and they have no real history with the SEC.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's better than South Carolina
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
RE: Travel...
you can actually make the trip to Columbia in about the same time as Fayetteville, despite the distance: better roads, faster roads, and once in Mizzou, I70 is like the freaking Autobahnen, whereas no trip to Fayetteville or across Ark is ever pleasant (or quick).
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Drove to the BCS Championship game from Tuscaloosa and Arkansas was definitely the most annoying state to drive through as far as roads go. They had a nice pizza place though. We tried to get BBQ but it was Sunday, so that wasn’t happening.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Not talking about travel time...
… just raw distance. Still a long way away.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
that it is...that it is...10-12 hours from MGMY, if hauling ass
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
TERRIBLE
All of you who like KC bbq are disgraceful.
Hell, even Carolina bbq in its yellow vinegar “sauce” is better than that sickly sweet paste they put on a quickly cooked shoulder in Missouri.
F Mizzou.
Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren
by animalcracker on Jun 11, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't say it was the best...
Clearly it’s below Deep South cue, even that memphis-rubbed shit, but it’s still recognizable as ’cue if you go to the right places.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never had KC BBQ
What’s it like?
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet, thick sauce
more tomato paste than vinegary…
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: BBQ
Personally I think this is something we need to factor in. That should also put UNC into consideration
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
But, I like Carolina sauces...
No hatin’ on mustard…
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I was saying
Although there’s a difference between east and west. But I’m not familiar enough to know what, and I’ve only had whichever one is mustard. Personally, I like multiple kinds of sauces as long as they are done well, and put on PORK
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto..."brisket" is not barbecue.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
All this expansion talk is making me hungry...
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It's still good damnit...
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
is that a ribeye?
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh come on, it's a brisket...
… with a smoke ring the size of Fulmer.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
it is an impressive smoke ring...
damn, I think I’m going to go get some grub now…there’s a little place called “Ozark Barbecue” in West Omaha, that makes a nice bbq somewhere between a KC and a Chicago style…and, they’re cheap.
If anyone goes to the CWS it’s on the corner of 114th and West Center.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell the Big Red contingent...
… we said to hammer Michigan and Ohio State.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Me too...
… we got some Carolina-style BBQ from some redneck in Livingston at some shithole festival, and it was mighty fine.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I had never had it
till we moved out here. A nice chain restaurant called Smithfield’s does a superb sandwich (which got me hooked), but the home-cooked stuff done by the church folk is excellent.
HOWEVER, I am from the bbq mecca known as Memphis, and nobody does it quite like West Tennesseeans.
Lee Corso: How would you describe tailgating at Alabama?
Kirk Herbstreit: Barbecue and Ralph Lauren
by animalcracker on Jun 12, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW: I'm totally going to look like a genius when this happens...
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it would be a good choice
I like it better than Clemson, to be honest.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
I even like it better than TAMU.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I was kind of being a smart ass with "genius", but here's another reason it's plausible...
aTm has a partner leaving the BXII. If they need training wheels, it’s a nice starting point.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Fight the thrill up the leg...
… aTm clearly wins the measuring contest with Missouri.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
yep, that they will...
but, at this point, if the commish comes calling would they say no? I think it also gives us a bit more leverage with aTm…
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell...
… Missouri will crawl on their hands and knees for 40 years to get to the SEC at this point.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The downside of both is this:
aTm brings another live dog mascot
and mizzou brings another tiger.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Tigers
I didn’t think of that. If we got Clemson and Mizzou, we’d have, what… 4 tigers? That’s ridiculous. Get a little more creative, people.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 11, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't fault Mizzou or LSU for their "tigers"
they are historic…in LSU’s case, it’s the LA regiment who wouldn’t quit after Apommatox; and Mizzou’s tigers were union loyalists who fought tooth nail against secessionists.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds good...
… we’ll just kick Auburn out of the conference and keep the Tiger quota at two.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell...
…let’s just bring in Clemson, Mizzou, and Memphis…then we can beat them all every freakin’ year….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure Missouri would be up for a change in mascot...
… plus the Reveille is an awesome dog. I’m pro-dog.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
ots i was
the one out front with you the other day saying that texas and a&m would never part ways due to politics, but as an sec fan living over here in [the artist formerly known as the] big 12 country, i’m starting to be swayed on this whole “a&m to the sec” thing and i really don’t think its nearly as far fetched as i did a few days ago. the good news is i don’t think we’ll have to wait all that long to find out.
As long as...
As long as the popular majority of the state of Texas and Rick Perry wants Texas and Texas A&M to stay together — and keep in mind, Perry is up for re-election in November, and he has national aspirations — lottery tickets are a smart bet compared to that.
If it happens I’ll be the first to admit I misread the situation, but I am not expecting to have to recant any of the statements I’ve made the past two weeks on the subject.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
you're probably right
in that you won’t have to recant any of your statements, however its also not the slam dunk you/i thought it would be a few days ago.
by gerry dorsey on Jun 11, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice article BUT
Hey Joe!! You need to go to your first paragraph and make a correction. It’s Iowa State NOT Iowa that is in the Big XII. Iowa is IN the Big Ten. I hope it was just a typo error. Otherwise, deduct some money from your salary for not knowing which Iowa teams are in which conference. RTR
Forget Texas A&M
SEC needs to be courting Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech, Miami and FSU.
Sew that talent pipeline up for good man.
Terrific to allow Florida ot have SEC games be rivalry in state games, Georgia Same with Tech.
Let Texas A&M join the WAC. What could they possibly have y’all care about?
Seriously?
What could they possibly have y’all care about?
Let’s think… very good school, huge money, huge TV market, new recruiting pipelines, great history with several schools… what the hell don’t they have?
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
for a start?
Tier one academics, AAU, Land/Air/Sea Grant school, #5 endowed public university, ties to Alabama, built in older rivalries with LSU and Arkansas, Houston TV markets, respectable athletic department.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
one of the largest/richest alumni bases in america??
that do anything for ya…in addition to the list above.
by gerry dorsey on Jun 11, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it was Clay Travis who made the valid point
that aTm only looks dim in comparison to UT.
When you really examine the pluses of A&M on their merits, leaving the ’Horns entirely out of the equation, the SEC would be pretty damned foolish not to make a full-court press for the Aggies.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
And if A&M was good enough for Bear Bryant, it’s good enough for the SEC.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jun 11, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's call Maryland....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
and, yes, I threw up in my mouth by conceding that Travis made good points.
Aside from his article saying farewell to JP, this may be the only time I’ve ever agreed with him.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He musta been plaigarizing....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Rabid fanbase at that . . .
And, Texas has already made up thousands of jokes for you all to use on their team when you play them, such as:
Did you hear about the Houston Cougar that transferred to A&M?
He raised the IQ of both schools!
I've had a bias against TAMU
since my Texas friend told me that Alabama:Auburn :: Texas:TAMU.
except, that it's not...
yes, the Aggies are UT’s lil’ brother, and by damned they are psychotically redneck, but the institution is world class. Hell, Auburn would kill to have the financing that just one of A&M’s sublibraries has.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a better school
Than Auburn is and one of the reasons A&M is looking to bail into something besides teh PAC-10 is they are tired of being the red headed step child in Texas.
well Coach Stallings ..
on Finebaum today seemed like he sort of wanted out of Tex shadow. He was measured with his words but said that Tex was making all the choices and that aTm was a big boy its self. He did acknowledge the political ramifications. I have no idea and I cede to OTS judgment but Stallings seemed to want it bad. He did have this choice quotes that I pulled from Sportsbybrooks.com which you can find here
“"it may be to our (A&M) advantage" to join the SEC but the former Alabama coach also didn’t rule out any conference affiliation for the school. When asked by Finebaum if he’d talked to anyone affiliated with the SEC about A&M joining the conference, Stallings said, "I’ve talked to one or two."
he had this to say about being in a different conference:
“At one time it would. Now it wouldnt. There was a time when I thought Texas and Texas A&M should be in the same conference but at the same time I think A&M is now big enough to stand on its own. We don’t need to piggyback on Texas."
he also had this to say about what it would be like to play in the SEC
“Better button your bonnet if you come to the SEC in football and basketball. I think the majority of Aggies wants what’s best.”
awesome....
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This is true
Aggies are tired of being in UT’s shadow. Previously, when A&M was being left behind by texas, the legislature there who had attended A&M threw a hissy fit and tied the two’s fortunes together. But if A7M can get into the SEC, that’s a different kettle of fish altogether.
i think we need to add texas a&m and maryland...
then every school coach bryant was HC at will be in the conference.
Roll 'Bama Roll: The Champagne of 'Bama Blogs.
nice
although while watching the UF Miami super regional, i am most inclined to make a NO MORE ORANGE rule for the SEC
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
Are one of those schools orange?
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
no
i was just proposing a new ‘theme’ of who we want to add. it was not meant to be a counter to kleph’s
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
I dunno...
…my enjoyment is usually increased by a win over an ugly orange team….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If aTm did join the SEC
The state of Texas’s football teams would operate from Coast to Coast. Would that not enduce exposure that no other state could match. IMO, that’s great PR for the state in and of itself. DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS, so they say.
Have a Crimson Tide Day!
Roll Tide, Saban Tsunami Roll!
Baylor...
Could also be an amazing fit for the c-usa! I would go and watch uab and Baylor play(that is if bama was playing a day game or a bye week)
Later Days
Jason Brakefield
Romans 8:38-39
by BamaFever10 on Jun 11, 2010 10:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
...
That is if bama played at 11 and uab played later time and didn’t interfer with the bama game.
Later Days
Jason Brakefield
Romans 8:38-39
by BamaFever10 on Jun 11, 2010 10:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Baylor vs. UAB...
…would be a Thursday game, so you’re safe….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like the idea of TAMU
if we go 14 I think TAMU should be the first on our list. Hands down, I’d have them over Texas any day. I was really against Texas and TAMU coming to the SEC because Texas likes to threaten and throw it’s weight and money around to influence off the field issues. And to be honest we don’t want their bullshit in the SEC.
However TAMU has everything we want as discussed above, and from listening to Stallings on Finebaum it seems like a good possibility.
For the 14th member I say we try for FSU or GT. Great traditions, great rivals, huge fan bases, great academics.
If we go 16, I think we should go for UNC and Duke over Clemson, Miami or whoever is left between GT and FSU. Sure their on the field reputation isn’t great (UNC is getting better) but they offer so much in the way of Basketball, new fanbase/tv market, academic prestige and North Carolina is an absolute joy to visit.
Honestly, I feel like Clemson doesn’t really bring anything to the table.
But at the end of the day if some of the schools don’t feel like it’s in their best interest, we may just have to take what we can get.
Fight on, fight on, fight on men! Remember the Rose Bowl, we’ll win then.
I absolutely agree
on UNC/Duke over Clemson. Improve basketball and branch into an adjacent state, with football teams that are at least not terrible. Clemson just seems so bland to me.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Jun 12, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite combinations so far...
…are UNC/Duke or FSU/TAMU…assuming that Tulane/UNLV is off the table….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 11, 2010 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
I'm hopin' for
TAMU/FSU and GT/Clemson – Let’s lock up Atlanta as SEC country. Leave Miami to the ACC, and have them take in UConn, South Florida and West Virginia. Big Ten takes Syracuse, Rutgers, Pitt and Louisville. MWC takes the Big12 leftovers and renames itself the Midwest Conference. And then ND can take its independence and shove it a little further.
i don't think you need ga tech to lock up atlanta
what is atlanta?? about 80% uga, 20% ga tech??
by gerry dorsey on Jun 12, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
50% uga, 30% ga tech...
…20% Bama….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 12, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
