Football Outsiders Ranks The Top 100 College Football Teams of the Last 100 Years
The stat-lovin geeks over at Football Outsiders have come up with a list of the 100 Most Dominant football programs in the last century. But this ain't one of those usual lists based on the writer's preference, they are using one of their high-falutin' statistical measurements I can barely wrap my head around much less explain. But basically it means they are using MATHS! So it has to be true. Right?
Which is all well and good but where the hell is Alabama, you ask? Turns out the first installment of this series is covering No. 100 through 81 and no less than three Crimson Tide teams are in evidence: Frank Thomas' 1945 (No. 97) and 1936 (No. 88) squads and as well as the 1992 National Championship team (No. 83). The next twenty teams will be announced next Tuesday.
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They should know that math says every Bama championship is in the top 13
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by crimsongiant on Jun 29, 2010 3:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wow, 1992 is #83?
82 teams better than that one? There must have been a LOT of great teams that didn’t win natty champs and that I don’t know about. I’m not saying that ‘92 was the best team ever (it wasn’t) or the best Bama team ever (ahem!), but I didn’t expect ’em to miss the top 82.
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well, 92 is renowned as a great defensive team...
but nobody ever mistook jay barker for an all-american.
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Somebody did...
…in 1994….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 29, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well i'll be damned...
i guess they did. but my point was that the offense for the 92 team wasn’t truly considered its primary strength. i’m guessing whatever metric they are using evaluates the performance on both sides of the ball.
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I got ya...
…just bein’ an intelligent mule. Barker was a completely different QB in 94 than 92….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 29, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
no. i appreciate being corrected...
i remember langham (ugh, how could i forget) and the deuce, but barker completely escaped me. my recollection of him was much like mcelroy, not the most gaudy stats but an undeniable ability to lead his team to victory. he’s no. 1 for all alabama quarterbacks in terms of w/l record (.934 – 35-2-1).
and his presence in the record book attests to this. he’s at No. 4 for all time most career plays (949 – 706 passes, 243 rushes) and fifth in career yards (5,409 – 5,689 pass, -292 rush), fourth in career pass attempts (706 – 402 completions, 5,689 yards).
but, yeah, something insane happened to barker in 1994. his performance took a quantum leap forward. he was a legit heisman trophy candidate that year (although he finished fifth in the voting) and a clear all-american.
that season he racked up 396 passing yards in the 1994 Georgia game on his way to a ridiculous 76.5% completion percentage. that same season he had 11 straight completions versus Mississippi State (he hit 10 straight in two ’93 games).
he finished ’94 with 14 passing touchdowns and a season completion percentage of 61.5% – one of the best marks in school history for any QB tossing more than 100 passes. he also went 155 straight passes between ’93 and ’94 without a pick – the second-longest such streak in the crimson tide record book.
so, yeah, next time i should do at least a quick wikipedia search before spouting off like that.
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Greg McElroy ain't exactly Joe Willie MKII, neither. But the 2009 team damn well better be in that top 100...
Don’t get me wrong, I feel a lot better with the Ginger Avenger under center than I ever did with Jay Barker running the show, and I think Greg is very underrated. But the downfield passing game isn’t this team’s fame either, you know?
Here’s an interesting Wikipedia scrape: “Jay Barker managed only 18 yards passing in the Sugar Bowl and threw two interceptions, but the Tide running game punished Miami for 267 yards, including 135 rushing yards by Derrick Lassic.”
I swear I’ve read this story before…
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The 2009 team...
…damn well better be in that top 10….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 29, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
"Jay Barker managed only 18 yards passing in the Sugar Bowl and threw two interceptions, but the Tide running game punished Miami for 267 yards, including 135 rushing yards by Derrick Lassic
If McCoy hadn’t been injured Toretta hadn’t been scared shitless by Curry and Copeland, Miami woulda won that game!
But who the hell...
…is Harry Gilmore? Geez….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 29, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
and calling the '36 team bryant's is a bit off the mark...
that was his first year as an assistant. that was frank thomas’ team and what part of it wasn’t would be chalked up to hank crisp. bryant had a lot to learn at that point and he did so on one of the greatest coaching crews ever put together in the college game. frank thomas might just be the most criminally underrated coach in the sport – and that’s partially due to the fact he so massively overshadowed by his protege.

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oh definitely...
…I’m assuming that most college football fans don’t know much about the older teams/greats outside of their own team/conference, so I threw in the Bear thing just so people could relate to the time period. Probably should have actually mentioned the head coach, though…
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Math is tricky
because I can promise you that the 92 team would have beat a good half of the teams ranked ahead of them. You have to remember the Canes were a 17 pt. fav. and if they had won that game (the Sugar Bowl) they (Miami) would have been listed in the top 20 teams all time and the game was not even close. We might not have had a great offense, but our offense fit our defense and the result was a team that not only finished perfect, but held the other team to under 2 touchdowns 11 of 13 games IN THE MODERN ERA. I would equate that feat to holding 11 of 13 teams to a field goal or less back in the 30’s.
Meanwhile our poor pitiful offense scored 4 TD’s or more 8 of 13 games and scored the most points of any Stallings coached team at Bama. Furthermore this team was right in the middle of a 28 game win streak by Stallings and Bama.
No way 81 teams were better.
If we have to expand...let's keep it to 14.
by 5026 on Jun 29, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
^^ this^^
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 29, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
I’m not going to be upset because they’re not in the top 25, but seriously, there can’t be 81 teams better than that one.
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by billycthulhu on Jun 29, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, ten of those have to be Bama NC teams
…and who knows what jipped teams will be on the list.
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by AlabamaJammer on Jun 30, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agree...
…with the overall sentiment of your post, but I think some of our TDs were scored by the defense….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 29, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Best team ever...
…well, in my 3o+ years of life, has to be, hands down, the 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers.
To wit
1. Beat three top 10 teams, 2 on the road, by margins of 38, 25 and 24 points.
2. Destroyed Florida in the MNC game by 38
3. Scored no less than 35 points in any game
4. Pitched two shutouts, held two other teams to no offensive TDs
5. Margin of victory was 38 points, the largest of any Division 1-A team since World War II
6. Averaged 53 points per game
7. Averaged 29.8 points per first half
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At Nick Saban’s Michigan State Spartans? 50-10
Hosting Plummer-led Sun Devils? 77-28
Hosting #8 K State? 49-25
At #10 Kansas? 41-3
At #7 Colorado? 45-21
Archrival Oklahoma? 37-0
MNC game? 62-24
Individual accolades? 28 went to play in the pros. Three 1st Team AAs, a 2nd team, two 3rd team, and four honorable mentions (which included such throwaways like Ahman Green and Tommie Frazier). Speaking of Frazier, he won the Maxwell, the Unitas, B8 POY, UPI POY, and should have won the 1995 Heisman over Eddie George.
Seriously, the nastiest team I have ever, ever seen in my life.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 29, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
61 Bama...
My understanding is that the 61 Bama team walked on water. If anyone saw that squad, and can compare them to the 95 NU squad, I’d love to hear it.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 29, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw the 61 Bama team.
61 Bama and the 95 Huskers played 2 different types of football. In 61 we played single platoon football and we did not have any black athletes (or black students for that matter) at Bama. Consequently some of the fastest guys on our team were actually linemen, but by today’s standards at 190 lbs these linemen wouldn’t even be running backs.
I think the way you determine who was best is by looking at who did the best against the people of their day. Nebraska was awesome and did score a lot of points against some schools in the Big 12 with no defense. The UF games was very disappointing to SEC fans and probably the worst job Spurrier ever did in preparing his team.
The 61 team featured guys that were just plan tough. Guys like Trammel, Neighbors, Jordan, Williamson, Wilson, Holt, and Battle were as hard nosed football players as ever played the game. Coach Bryant said they thought it was a sin to give up a point. In 11 games they only gave up 25 total points. They had 6 shut outs. Their average margin of victory was 25 points. Considering the day in which they played and the points that most teams scored I would say that margin of victory was the equivalent to 45 points on today’s scale.
So, who would have won if they played? Well, if you made the Neb. boys get down to the Alabama boys size and weight and then made them play single platoon, Alabama would have killed them. If you made Alabama play them being out weighed 100 lbs per man, then Neb. would have won, but not by as much as you might think. (Spurrier did not think it was a sin to give up a point thus Neb. got their 62.)
And, if the 61 team could have drafted the best black athletes in the state of Alabama at that time and added them to our already tough squad they may have beat Neb. straight up inspite of the size difference. We definitely had the best coach.
Who was better? Well, without sounding too much like a homer, I’d still say the 61 Bama team was a better team and yes even more dominating than the 95 Huskers. I mean only ONE team scored as much as 7 points on them, we only allowed 3 TD’s ALL YEAR and we gave up only 132 total yards PER GAME.
If we have to expand...let's keep it to 14.
jesus...
i forgot how guady their wins were…thats some rediculous shit.
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They are the greatness to which I compare all teams
when the ESPN hype monster was rambling on and on about the 2005 USC Trojans, I realized that their attention span rivaled a guppy. There were some other very, very talented teams (2001 Miami, 2008 Florida, 1993 FSU, 86 Sooners, just to name a few), but none top that 95 Nebraska team in terms of talent on both sides of the ball, and the absolute ass-kicking they handed out to everyone.
The closest game they had was a two TD beating of Washington State…and they scored 44+ points ten times…including 50+ six times
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 29, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't assume great offense
will beat great defense. It usually is the other way around. Witness 1992 & 2009. If the Bama D of either 92 or 09 played these high powered teams like USC or Neb. we would win.
Just ask Oklahoma how that greatest O of all time worked out for them against a good old SEC D in the 08 NCG.
Points on the board by your name looks good, no points by your opponets name looks even better.
If we have to expand...let's keep it to 14.
Their defense was phenomenal too...
They were usually up 4-5 TDs, and gave up garbage points in blowouts; and they were all blowouts.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been very happy watching USC tumble down from their Holy Mountain Top...
…of Ultimate Football Awesomeness. Got incredibly sick of that crap from ESPN (in particular).
Saw another blog a few months ago in which a FL fan made his case that 2008 Gators were the most-dominant champion. He had a point in differential (points scored/points allowed).
However, 14-0 2009 Bama still outranks 13-1 2008 FL. Saban: “You are what your record says you are…”
I’d have to give bonus points for shutouts. 38-0 should carry more weight than 62-24.
It's hard to pitch a complete shutout
when you’re up by 50 at the half, and the 3rd teamers and walk ons are playing most of the 4th Q. When Tommie Frazier has to play 30 minutes to destroy you, and you’re down 44-0, 41-3, then it’s safe to say it doesn’t too much matter if the final is 65-20.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
and there is no way that a one loss team is better
than any team that ran its slate…you don’t give up 31 at home to Houston Dale and get to claim that you were the most dominating…
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Seconded on 1995 Nebraska
I don’t know if we’ll ever see a team score more than 600 points whille giving up less than 200 again. That’s video game numbers. Nebraska outscored opponents by 464 points that year. To put that in perspective, Alabama has cleared a point differential of 300 six different times (if I’m counting correctly), but never higher than 364 (in 1973).
Nebraska just killed teams in 1995. It almost wasn’t fair.
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The 1994-1996 teams were all nasty...
I would have paid good money to see 2005 USC suit up against them. The defense was as terrifying as the offense: Mike Minter, Michael Booker, the Peter brothers, Wistrom, Tomich…
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean...
…the 2005 USC team that lost to Texas?
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 30, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
2004 USC...
…on the other hand was nasty.
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True dat.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 30, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn you all...
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 1, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Just found this
don’t know if we’ll ever see a team score more than 600 points whille giving up less than 200 again
Florida in 2008 did it. According to Steele, the 2008 Gators scored 631, and gave up 181…that 450 is pretty close to NU’s 464, but two big qualifiers: 1. 95 NU didn’t lose, and 2. NU beat 4 teams that finished in the top 10, UF beat two.
Concededly they both beat 4 top 10 teams, but in UFs case, UGA and LSU weren’t legitimate top 10 teams: Georgia finished with 3 losses, and in the mid-teens, LSU with 5 losses and unranked.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Though that was a great pont diff
Think about it this way: Nebraska scored about 3X the points their opponents’ scored all year.
The 1961 Alabama team scored 11 X the points their opponents’ scored that year (297-25). All props to Nebraska, but the ’61 team was just ridiculous.
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by NJBammer on Jul 1, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
good point.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 1, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
You see what you did there?
You got yourself a rec, sir….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 1, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Why thank you
:)
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant
It's hard for me to say
but I’m thinking the ’79 Bama team will be up there. The closest win was a 3-0 shutout of LSU. Maybe the ’78 team.
As far as the best Bama team eveh…I can’t say the 2009 team is it, after all they had a scare against TN (even though it was very poor luck to be in that situation, we were still in it), and had a real struggle against a poor Aubie team. Wiping the floor with FL and TX washed away that tase, of course, but still that’s 2 close to being losses which means I can’t put them on top.
Maybe the 66 team? They had an 11-10 scare against TN, then went on to post 6 shutouts that year, including 4 in a row, rounding out their season with a 34-7 wholloping of Nebraska. I wonder where they will end up compared to ND that year?
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i'm hoping the '35 squad gets their due...
as well as a couple of wade’s juggernauts.
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by billycthulhu on Jun 30, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No Alabama team in history...
…had the success of last year’s team, especially when you consider the schedule. The 1978 team played a killer schedule, but they did have a loss. The 1979 team is certainly one of the top five we’ve ever had, but their schedule doesn’t compare. That Arkansas team we beat in the bowl knew they were dead before they arrived in New Orleans. The 1966 team didn’t play the same kind of schedule, either, though they were a great, great team.
We’ve had so many great undefeated teams: 25, 30, 34, 35, 45, 61, 66, 79, 92…but I still can’t get past what this most recent group of champions accomplished, in the most competitive year of the most competitive conference in college football history. I just couldn’t take another team against them.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 30, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it will take a few years for the gravity of the accomplishments to sink in...
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 1, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Hell Yeah
26’ put Alabama plus the whole entire South on the map.
Bama's so good, we'll make your quarterback cry.
by crimsongiant on Jun 30, 2010 2:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
1925...
…played their bowl game in 26…they put Alabama on the map….
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