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POLL: What Team Would Be Best For An Expanded SEC?

When you have nothing to talk about for eight months you'll talk about anything. And the topic du jour this off season has been conference expansion. The Big Ten started the chatter in February and the Pac 10 added their voice to the din soon after. The rumors have been coming at a steady pace ever since. To follow the pundits, the fates of the Big XII and Big East seem to hang in the balance every time Jim Delaney gets indigestion.

The SEC hasn't been immune from this brouhaha and the conference pow wow in Destin this week has only added fuel to a smoldering fire of interest.

The SB Nation Blogs covering the various teams have been posting on the issue with regularity and while lot of it has been just updates on the various rumors but a few have stood out; Team Speed Kills superb breakdown on how an expanded SEC might work. Dawg Sports made a compelling argument for the SEC to pursue Texas and and our own OTS offered an incisive look at the forces pushing the conference to join the expansion bandwagon.

And if you haven't read Dr. Saturday's excellent analysis of college football's trend toward the creation of the "superconference" you should do so immediately. He suggests that that, as disrupting as all this talk seems to be, it's actually part of a larger historical trend.

But all of this has been opinion and conjecture. Nobody has any real idea of if and when any of the conferences may or may not decide to start adding to their rolls. Which sounds like a perfect excuse for a poll! We leave it to you, dear reader, to tell us what team you'd most like to see join the ranks of the SEC? And please feel free to explain your choice in the comments.

Poll
Which team would be best for an expanded SEC?
Texas Longhorns
336 votes
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
279 votes
Florida State Seminoles
149 votes
Clemson Tigers
87 votes
Virginia Tech Hokies
52 votes
Miami Hurricanes
33 votes
Oklahoma Sooners
26 votes
Tulane Green Wave
20 votes
Notre Dame Fighting Irish
18 votes
Texas A&M Aggies
14 votes

1014 votes | Poll has closed

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I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Jun 3, 2010 8:05 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

love the Sunny in Philadelphia reference, nicely done sir.

by tc16cav on Jun 3, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

BOY'S SOUL

You’ve got me up the here!

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by billycthulhu on Jun 3, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

For that reason

I hated voting Tejas even though it seemed the best fit

"Defense"

by rmathis on Jun 3, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

A one team expansion makes no sense. If it’s two teams, I’d say the ‘Horns and A&M. If it’s four teams, add in Ga Tech and Clemson. No other program really makes sense to me. Maybe FSU, but I’m still waiting to see if Fisher gets the ship in order. I’d also be against UVA and VT, but I don’t think those blue-blooded Virginians would want to slum it with us hillbilly Southerners.

by Snowedin'Bama on Jun 3, 2010 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn polls and their need to scew results by limiting options…

by Snowedin'Bama on Jun 3, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've been slummin' with you hillbilly Southerners...

for almost 5 years and I’m lovin’ it. I’m originally from VA and used to be a huge UVA fan. It would be fun to see Bama vs. UVA and Bama vs. VT regularly. But I don’t think the UVA vs. Bama lacrosse matches would be too interesting. UVA and Auburn might have a good swimming rivalry though. I feel like UVA would be out of place because some of the “preppy sports” it excels at (i.e. Swimming, Soccer, Lacrosse, etc.). I am a southerner being from Virginia, but I’m afraid Virginia is becoming more and more of a northern state and UVA and VT might be a better fit for the ACC or BigEast.

I felt like the GT / Clemson pair would be the best geographically I voted for GT; however Texas and A&M would bring a lot academically and in athletics.

by RammerJammer23 on Jun 3, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

No offense, I'm just bitter

Pretty sure UVA sent the rejection letter for my law school application before they actually received the application. Only explanation for the under 10 days turn around. Never gotten over such a snobbish slight… And you are right about Northerners takin’ over. I’m in the process of returning to the homeland (Georgia), and Atlanta is now such a land of Northerners and fer’enrs (folk from outside of the South and Yankee-land).

by Snowedin'Bama on Jun 3, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even if it's a two team expansion...

…that doesn’t mean that there isn’t just one BEST fit.

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by Nico2.0 on Jun 3, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's tons of hillbillies in VA

as i expect there are in the rural parts of every state. the blue-bloods are mainly in northern va. but even then, the entire state is below the mason-dixon line which makes us southerners as well.

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by LittleSis on Jun 4, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm with Snow'd'n

You can’t just make it one team to vote for (but I understand the poll might not allow multiple votes), but given what it is I voted for Tech.

Ja, Texas is the sexy pick, but I’m looking at the tradition of the SEC (Southern) conference for this, and the fact that we sing “Yea, Alabama” and there is a small announcement about how we should be treating the ones who quit and ran away in a huff for whatever childish reasons they had at the time former member who did have their run in the day in the SEC. Since we just gave a refresher on “remember[ing] the Rose Bowl” what better way to continue the wisdom and divine providence of those sacred lyrics.

Seriously I’d rather we pursue aTm and Texas before we look to the ACC schools given the weak state of ACC football programs impact Texas can bring and the way they could help strengthen the conference and all but ensure the SEC champion is a lock for the BCSCG. But you can’t blame anyone for a little bit of nostalgia.

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And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Jun 3, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

We could F- with everyone...

And figure a way to poach a Big Televen team or two… THAT would just send Delaney into little fits, losing one of his “academically superior” schools to the speedy ’ole SEC!

by Snowedin'Bama on Jun 3, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its tough...

The Big Ten is doing it mostly to gain a bigger footprint for the network. I laughed when I heard about the BTEN network but it has proved to be a cash cow. They would also get the benefit of a championship game. For the SEC to keep up we would need to also grow in new markets. We have Georgia, I think they would fight adding tech. It would also not expand the base of the SEC any. The same can be said of Florida not wanting Miami. So Car negates any growth by adding Clemson ( cue the its Auburn with a lake joke). Tulane is not going to do anything but lead to about 80,00 hangovers in New Orleans. So I think to grow we would have to go out west. That’s a bit of a pickle as well, it you add Texas and A&M would that not lead to a realignment of the divisions? I also think that adding those teams would almost make the conference to strong. Its hard enough to navigate the SEC right now. If you add Texas and A&M that’s just brutal. Adding those teams I believe would give us some wiggle room with ESPN to renegotiate and get closer to Big Ten money. I know there are people about 2000 times smarter then me working on this. I just have no idea which way it will go. I voted by which team I like the best so I went with OK because of the great time I had with there fans and I always sort of think of them as Alabama west.

by chinesedentist on Jun 3, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I had to vote GT. After all, “Send the yellow jackets to a watery grave” is part of our theme song. Might as well play them a little more often and give our fight song a little more meaning.

That, or we could change the fight song: “Send the texas longhorns to a watery grave,” but no one likes messing with tradition.

by squinky86 on Jun 3, 2010 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

No tradition?

Sounds like you live up here in Akron, Ohio with the Zips… Akron, where even the Zoo does not have a kangaroo!

by Snowedin'Bama on Jun 3, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

BLIMEY!

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suggestion for new fight song

Maybe it is time to revamp our fight song a little bit – scrub sewanee and put in a little tougher of a cupcake. But what should we do with the two mentions of Yellow Jackets in it?

Let the Sewanee Auburn Tiger scratch, Let the Yellow Jacket sting,
    Let the Georgia Bulldog bite,
    Alabama still is right!
    And whether win or lose we smile,
    For that’s Bama’s fighting style:
    You’re Dixie’s football pride, Crimson Tide!
    A-L-A-B-A-M-A
    Chorus:
    Yea, Alabama! Drown ‘em Tide!
    Every ’Bama man’s behind you,
    Hit your stride.
    Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
    Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave.
    And if a man starts to weaken,
    That’s a shame!
    For Bama’s pluck and grit have
    Writ her name in Crimson flame.
    Fight on, fight on, fight on men!
    Remember the Rose Bowl, we’ll win then.
    So roll on to victory,
    Hit your stride,
    You’re Dixie’s football pride,
    Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide!!

by squinky86 on Jun 3, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

because i HATE them!

no, i just pulled it together from a list of the likely schools that have bee named. and we’ve already got half the ACC up there as it is.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

what the hell...

they’re included now.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

How can anyone vote GaTech over Texas if you have to pick one?

Seriously!!! As an FSU fan I know Texas is a huge school with deep pockets would add even more killer ratings AND expand the SEC footprint to a new state. No other school on the list is even close to hitting all three of those areas.

Giddy-up!

by truecolors on Jun 3, 2010 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Having looked at Team Speed Kills’ post and read all the speculation for the past couple months, it just seems to me that the only expansion truly worthwhile would be Texas. And we’d probably have to take A&M too in that case, but I won’t cry over that. From the fans’ standpoint, away games in Austin and College Station sound like fun to me.

by PNG1983 on Jun 3, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

because georgia tech was once in the SEC

and there a lot of historical ties, unresolved rivalries and such that make it appealing for many. that said, i think the best “two team” option is texas and clemson, adding one to each division and going with it.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's hard not to want to come back home

when you guys keep singing about us after every touchdown.

Furman Bisher, a very nice man I met outside Bobby Dodd Stadium in November, will just have to get over it.

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by Jason Kirk on Jun 3, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Rec that sh*t, homie....

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 3, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Furman Bisher

is not a nice man and one of the 50 reasons I do not want Tech ever back in the SEC.

Reason #2 is that it would require us to occasionally play at Grant Field.

Reason #3 is that Tech left because they couldn’t beat Bryant. If the other schools had done that there would be no SEC.

I could go on…but you get the point.

However, the Pac 10 is trying to break up the Big 12 and take Texas now. We better get on our courting shoes.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jun 3, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

he'll die eventually

not something i wish on the guy, but not something i’m going to interrupt my plans to clean the lint out of my bellybutton if it falls on the same day either.

and grant field holds a lot of history – good and bad – for alabama. it’s better if it were an active history we had ability to control instead of one just hanging out there unresolved.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would vote for

robbing the acc of talent, with clemson being my first choice, from a purely functionality standpoint. however, as a bama fan living in texas, it sure would be nice to have bama travel this way once or twice a year.

by gerry dorsey on Jun 3, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't feel Texas...

…is a good fit at all. Sure they’re great, but they don’t feel SEC to me. My top 3 would be Georgia Tech, Clemson and Florida State.

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by Nico2.0 on Jun 3, 2010 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I live in Tally

FSU vote by default.

Although my heart screams for “other” with the Troy Trojans.

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by troy145 on Jun 3, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Best fit is not necessarrily the same as the best for the conference.

Several posts are basaed on selecting the best fit. For that, I’d argue that GT and Clemson would be indisputably the best fits. I’d even add West Va. over VT as an option.
But…
Which team would be best for an expanded SEC?
I voted for Texas. They offer more in terms of money, recruiting talent, and winning tradition.
Also, a vote for Texas is a vote for Texas A&M, which only adds to the attraction.
—Lee

by crimson37 on Jun 3, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Despite our back and forth with coaches...

…nothing about Texas A&M excites me.

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by Nico2.0 on Jun 3, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget them taking a scab from Bama.

That excited me.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Jun 3, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, when Fran was

at A&M I wanted him to lose, but secretly I’ve always like the Aggies.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jun 3, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

shhhhh!!!

Nah, just kidding. Me too.

by CarrotTop4 on Jun 4, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Georgia Tech...

is outfitted by Riddell. That’s enough to earn my veto…

Texas and VT are the ones I would like to see receive an invite first. A total eastern or western expansion wouldn’t bother me — Clemson/VT/UNC/Duke or UT/aTm/Okie/Okie State would be a great fit for a 16 member conference. Although I think it would be best if there were no “super” conferences, but if we go that way then all BCS conferences should be restructured and go the route of “super.”

by Mikeno on Jun 3, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

The Crimson Tide...

…needs the Green Wave! They’re former members of the conference. We would party in New Orleans every other year. They would become a more viable threat to LSU. Their presence could further our recruiting efforts in the state of Louisiana. They wear green. They would bolster our academic reputation. The SECW needs its own Vanderbilt to push around. They have a stadium large enough for our fanbase. Let’s drink to Tulane.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 3, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

whoa, the pac ten now seems to want...

Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Report-Pac-10-to-strike-first-with-blockbuster-?urn=ncaaf,245537

and that would make nebraska and missouri ripe for the picking by the big ten. the sec would have to raid the ACC for survival’s sake.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget A&M

They’d have to land somewhere, and I don’t see it in the Big-Interger. As unfortunate as it would be to play the Aggies every year, maybe the boost in revenues would be what the doctor ordered for their anemic athletic department.

Now the next question would be can a fourth superconference emerge from this and be a viable option to a playoff system [shudders].

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Jun 3, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why we need to get Texas now if possible.

If Texas goes Pac 10 and the Pac 10 becomes 16, and the Big 10 becomes 16, we are going to expand and we will be left with the likes of Clemson & W Va.

I hate the NCAA more than UT & AU combined. At least with UT & AU you got a fighting chance.

by 5026 on Jun 3, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm a bit more sanguine about the particular teams

world beaters today may be bottom dwellers tomorrow. you gotta look at the programs themselves instead of the recent W/L record.

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by kleph on Jun 3, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I think Texas

will always be a bigger program than Clemson or W Va.

by CarrotTop4 on Jun 4, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'M TIRED OF READING ABOUT THIS

and yes, i know I am free to point my browser elsewhere and get a full refund…

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by LittleSis on Jun 4, 2010 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Just had an odd thought with all this shakeup...

…what is to keep a crazy combo of TCU and A&M from the west? That would give a decent hold of Dallas/Ft. Worth and Houston for an expansion of markets. I think I heard somewhere today (drove about 400 miles, forgive me if I don’t remember the program) that Slive said something along the lines that the markets the SEC has is good enough, but that has to be a smokescreen. There is no reason to expand without some type of expansion of eyes on the conference. The Texas scenario is the only way I see to give more eyes to the SEC.

If Slive is speaking straight then it looks like it would be a FSU/UM and/or Tech/Clemson/? type of move. I don’t necessarily agree that the move to the Florida school isn’t an expansion of eyes on sets, as the conference could work to schedule the games for UF/FSU/UM to be at different times, thus giving 100% of Florida (in theory) in view of the SEC from dawn to dark on Saturdays. But the addition of the Tech/Clemson scenario is a marginal increase of eyes, if even that.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

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by AlabamaJammer on Jun 5, 2010 12:28 AM CDT reply actions  

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