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by kleph on Jul 19, 2010 8:59 AM CDT
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Sadly, the "Serve Phil Fulmer A Subpoena" event remains off the schedule.
Come Wednesday, a horde of SEC coaches and players will clash with more than 800 media representatives in Hoover, Alabama in that annual event known as the Southeaster Conference Media Days. This year the conference is making the whole shebang available on live video and you know you are going to watch it because you are as desperate for football as the rest of us you sad bastard.
But take heart, dear reader, it means fall practice is just a couple of weeks away.
In anticipation of the event, sportswriters have already begun padding their weekly wordcount with specious lists of "hot" topics. Among the offenders are the AJC's Tony Barnhart, the Gainsville Sun's Pat Dooley, ESPN's Mark Schlabach and the Orlando Sentinel's Andrea Adelson. The Birmingham News' Jon Solomon also informs the rest of college football that all their base most decisively belong to us. So get reading and get ready for the talking points.
But What The Hell Is A Nittany Lion?
Folks in Pennsylvania are getting rather excited about heading to T-Town on Sept. 11. The Johnstown Tribune Democrat and the State College News have both penned a retrospective looks at the Bama/Penn State rivalry recently. The SB Nation website covering the Nittany Lions, Black Shoe Diaries, has already offered a primer on the history and peculiar culture of Alabama football for it's loyal readership.
We Can't Wait To Hear Coach Cochran's Quote For This One
Penn State has announced its next White House game -- when all the Nittany Lion fans at Beaver Stadium wear white -- will be Sept. 10, 2011, against the Crimson Tide. The Godfrey Show suggests that this might not be the best idea.
Why Don't You Paint Me A Picture?
Team Speed Kills, the SB Nation blog covering all things SEC, had a great pair of articles last week compairing the success (or lack of) achieved by the teams in the conference using points-per-game and yards-per-game. The first one examined the 2009 season and the second was a cumulative assessment of the 2007 and 2008 seasons. UPDATE: They now have posted a comparison of the SEC versus a field of national teams.
A Family of Champions
Dave Hart, Alabama's Executive Director for Athletics, was recently in Pennsylvania to accept an honor on the behalf of his late father, Dave Hart Sr. The elder Hart was coached the Greater Johnstown High School Trojans for eight seasons, with his 1958 team winning the WPIAL Class AA crown in the midst of a 27-game undefeated streak. The district posthumiously awarded Hart the Sr. John P. Murtha Friend in Education Award this month.
Linebackers Of Seasons Past
Alabama's three-time All American linebacker Woodrow Lowe was enshrined in the College Football Hall of Fame over the weekend. Another linebacker from that era, Colenzo Hubbard, was named as the recipient of the Paul W. Bryant Alumni-Athlete Award presented by the UA National Alumni Association. He will recieve the honor during halftime of the San Jose State game at Bryant-Denny Stadium on Sept. 4.
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What is a 'White House' game?
Surely you mean white out, old man.
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they call it white house due to legal reasons.
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2007/09/14/white_house_just_as_effective.aspx
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Well, fine. Just douse my sarcasm with a bucket of ice water, why dontcha?
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by BamaReturns07 on Jul 19, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The movement originally started among the students, who collectively decided to wear white to certain games (Nebraska '02, and OSU '05 being the most popular).
These original games were called whiteouts. Then the university, never one to let a good idea go by without somehow getting their money-grubbing mitts on it, re-termed the event a White House (due to apparent legal issues that, to be honest, I didn’t even know about because, as the article mentions, everyone stil says Whiteout). After the university got involved, there was more of a push for EVERYONE, not just the student section, to wear white, keeping with the theme of White House. Almost everyone will tell you these things worked so much better when the idea was an organic, student driven idea.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Funny, some hockey teams consider home games during the playoffs a "white out"
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And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jul 19, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That write up at BSD was pretty bad
like comparing apples and oranges. Different time, different era. Bryant was a walking god for many people (not THE God, but A god). Bryant went out fairly well, Joe Pa has had some rough seasons lately.
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When Penn State plays...
a white house game do they actually wear different uniforms? All the teams listed in Godfrey’s twitter actually wore different uniforms. I think Penn State never wears anything but those generic black and white unis.
No. Same uniforms.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
PSU homes
should be navy shirts, white pants, white helmets.
The photos from this game will be timeless: excellent uni contrast, Penn State fans in white, hopefully at night
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by animalcracker on Jul 19, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
"you are as desperate for football as the rest of us you sad bastard."
…truer words have never been spoken.
The Godfrey Show tweet sure did make me smile.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 19, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions
Coach Cochran potential quotes --
About the Penn State White House gimmick:
“Let ’em wear white, they ____” ?
Something about virgin brides…? funeral shrouds? turning white shirts into flags of surrender?
Hey, if you think motivational gimmicks can put your team over the top to victory, knock yourself out. You might consider only using it against teams not coached by Nick Saban.
Will Auburn bring back The Jungle™? or their classic orange-jersey ploy?
let 'em wear white...
when they leave they’ll have so much BDS green turf stain, they’ll look like tulane
(ok kinda weak – gotta get warmed up)
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
gotta admit though, this looks pretty cool
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
but how about that close up...
brought to you, courtesy the iowa hawkeyes.
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whoops... posted the wrong one...
this is the sad panda from penn state’s last “white house” game
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Yep, it's definitely the coolest of the _____ out games. (Granted, that's not saying much.)
Looks pretty awesome under the lights, IMO.
What the fudge??
* Now Bama has a reputation for claiming MNC’s they didn’t actually win. If they need this for ego reasons I’m not going to stand in the way. But when I look up the polls in ‘65 and ’78 they finished #4 and #2, respectively. They lost games both years. I don’t want the wrath of Bama, I’ve liked every one of their fan’s I’ve ever met in person, but I simply don’t get this.
I’m used to our NCs being questioned… but not Bryant’s!! 1965 and ‘78?! We were chosen BY THE FREAKING AP those years!! Those are among the 7 that even our detractors recognize. It’s the non-AP ones that people roll their eyes about. Sheesh, by this guy’s standards (whatever those are), we must only have about 5 NCs total.
I noticed that as well
I can only assume he just read his research wrong or went to a bad website to get his data. He must not have put much work into it, it isn’t too hard to find out who won the AP championship those years.
by UAinPHOENIX on Jul 19, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
78 Sugar Bowl
So a Penn State fan is claiming we don’t deserve the 78 Championship? And he is saying this in a column about the Penn State/Bama rivalry? Seriously?
Yes, we are over "Bear" now. Deal with it.
Black shoes diaries on Coach Bryant
Interesting to see what others think about us. It’s great for enhancing perspective. I disagree with the quote that Coach Bryant had an idolship similar to Joe Pa’s right now.
I love Joe Pa as much as any non-PSU fan, but that is not an apples to apples comparison. Coach Bryant represented something different; a product of Alabama and the South of that time.
I wouldn't piss off the boys from Alabama . . . DBT
very true
the cultural impact of coach bryant reaches much much futher than his importance as a football coach. looking back today we often forget he was a symbol of the backward agrarian south reaching the highest levels of success against the more affluent and entitled representatives of our society. thus the affinity of these groups for the football team is noticeably larger than other similar programs even today.
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I'm not going to argue who is/was better, Joe vs. Bear. They are/were both great, and both deserve the myriad accolades they have received.
However, I think it should be noted that this…
the cultural impact of coach bryant reaches much much futher than his importance as a football coach.
…applies as much if not more to JoePa. I didn’t go to Alabama, so I can’t speak of Bear’s impact on the school/community, but Joe’s impact on the students, town, and way of life in State College cannot be understated. The library is named after him, among other buildings in town. He and his wife routinely contribute time, money, and anything else they can to local charities, including the largest student run philanthropy, Penn State Dance Marathon. And he places academics on a very high level for his players – if you’re caught slacking off or, heaven forbid, skipping class, you can kiss playing time goodbye while you get a good inside view of the infamous JoePa doghouse.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
no one here would argue that bryant and paterno have had a profound impact on their school/community and, in the bounds of that comparison, it would be difficult to gauge which had more.
but we are talking much more than just tuscaloosa or even alabama. bryant’s impact was as a cultural icon for the region and as the most identifiable figure of the sport for decades. growing up in the 1970s you simply knew who the man was, like john wayne or elvis presley. (and i say this as someone who did not grow up an alabama fan nor even in the state)
it is in this respect bryant is somewhat unique to the sport and to america as a whole, so interpreting it as a slight to paterno is to misunderstand what is being said.
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I wasn't saying you were slighting Paterno. And I certainly agree Bryant had a profound impact on football, America, and football in America.
I think that is one of the better similarities between Paterno and Bryant. Like you said, you weren’t alive in the 70’s without knowing Bryant. Similarly, you aren’t alive today and even just a cursory fan without knowing JoePa. I was in Rome on my honeymoon a month ago and I told the driver that I had gone to Penn State. He said, “Who is that guy with the glasses? Paterno? I like him.” Like Bryant, he is recognizable from coast to coast, and not just for his winning college football.
As an example, the only thing I can think of would be a social experiment: I would wager that nearly as many, if not as many, people would recognize this as would recognize these.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
again...
you miss what i say. i’m not arguing recognizability since the almost three decades since bryant’s passing makes paterno have the clear edge. but bryant’s story of a dirt poor farmboy from arkansas to rise by first his athletic talents and then his leadership ability to reach the pinnacle of his field resounded across the south and much of the country in a way no other college coaches story can equal. in a very real manner his importance is not with us the fans of the team he played for and coached but the whole swath of the population that shared his history. that he also dominated the sport as it exploded in popularity only served to make his appeal reach beyond the borders of the state and even the south to the national level.
paterno is a great coach and an undeniable legend to the sport and the university he represents, but he doesn’t resound at a cultural level beyond that. there isn’t a whole swath of the population who don’t give a damn about football and penn state who idolize him in the way that happened with bryant. and, again, that’s no knock on joepa at all.
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I understand.
I did not grow up in the 70’s, and I really had no connection to Bear Bryant, as by the time I was interested in college football Bryant was gone. But I still feel that Bryant’s legacy is, at least from a northerner’s point of view, somewhat regional. That’s not to say he isn’t a legend, you’d be hard pressed to find someone that says that. But like any school’s hero, the legacy ebbs as the distance from that school grows. Bear Bryant was a great man to the state of Alabama, but do you think people that grew up in the 1970’s in Idaho are as aware of his impact on the state of Alabama?
My initial point was that Paterno is as much a part of Penn State and, by extension, Pennsylvania that Bryant was in Alabama. His story is as well known in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia as Bryant’s is in Tuscaloosa and Mobile. Maybe Bryant’s reach was greater given his story and the times in which the country got to know him. But Paterno’s legacy is similarly as strong, maybe stronger than ever as he (eventually) nears the end of his career.
I guess the difference lay with what you call the swath of population that shared his history. Paterno did not come from dirt poor beginnings, but he certainly worked his way up to football coach and revered pillar of the community. However, there was no Capraesque story behind Paterno; Bryant’s was the story of (multiple) legends, and to deny that is to deny fact.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I recognize both...
One is the hat of an iconic coach and the other are football cleats. Any football fan would ace both. ;-)
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jul 19, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
...and yes, I did catch you didn't get the exact hat, but some type of other styled hat with the houndstooth.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jul 19, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
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