ESPN: Marcell Dareus Under Scrutiny for Attending Agent's Party
by kleph on Jul 20, 2010 4:58 PM CDT
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PrintCoach Nick Saban confirmed today that Alabama's defensive lineman Marcell Dareus is under investigation by the university for attending an agent's party in Miami earlier this summer. According to ESPN reporters Ivan Maisel and Mark Schlabach, multiple sources reported the infractions to ESPN last week and Saban said the university's compliance department was looking into it.
According to ESPN reporter Joe Schad, NCAA investigators had not requested to speak to Dareus as of Monday afternoon.
The party is believed to be the same one held on Memorial Day in South Beach attended by UNC defensive lineman Marvin Austin that has that player under investigation by the NCAA. According to The State in Columbia, S.C., investigators were looking into whether agents paid for the airfare and hotel rooms for recent trips including the one to Miami taken by several North Carolina players including Austin.
According to the ESPN story, Saban called for a ban of NFL teams from college campuses as a means of getting the league to take action against agents who break NCAA regulations.
"Right now, agents are screwing it up," Saban said. "They are taking the eligibility of players. It's not right that those players do the wrong thing. We have a great education process here. We have a full-time worker who meets with players and their families and does everything else."
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FUCK!
Can anyone elaborate on what consequences this might have?
"We knew we had to turn it up or we would get beat. We ripped the knob off. We turned it up so much we broke the knob." - Roy Upchurch after beating Florida in the 2009 SEC Championship Game
by bearbryantwonit on Jul 20, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions
Elaborate
It means that he might have to sit out.
A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.
This is obviously part of an evil plot by Nick Saban to free up a scholarship due to oversigning.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
by Zoltar on Jul 20, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes...
It appears Marcel has been “processed”
by PluckandGrit on Jul 20, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
hat tips to folks quicker on the draw than me...
JR01: http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2010/7/20/1579211/dareus-may-have-attended-agents
Richie Grogan: http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2010/7/20/1579216/dareus-in-trouble
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As a Bama fan, this sucks
As a ’Nole, we are hoping they DQ those 6 North Carolina defenders.
Probably cannot have both, right?
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In the ACC we've been dealing with this for the last week
Consensus is they are done for the rest of their eligibility because they are no longer an amateur.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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ACC consensus...
…and SEC consensus aren’t the same thing.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Would not be an SEC decision
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Unless the benefit was small enough and the player paid it back
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I would think that would depend on their involvement and the details. The rumors about the UNC players involved rent, cars, etc. I hope to god nothing like that involved Dareus.
On the surface it appears that an agent(s) was heavily involved with some UNC players, and they were in south beach this summer. The agent hosted a party there that some other players may have attended. Did all of the players there have a relationship with the agent, or were they just showing up at a party that they may have been invited to by other players?
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Schad reporting Dareus had bonded with Austin
You’re asking the right questions
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dareus considered attending unc and his late mother wanted him to go there.
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brings up an interesting question. Can one player buy another player a drink or would that be a violation?
Lets say that a UNC player is ordering rounds for people (Dareus included) and then he has the agent pick up the bill. And lets say perhaps Dareus buys a round in return, and pays himself.
Obviously that’s a lot of speculation, and there’s 1000’s of scenarios that could have played out. Hopefully the reality is one of the more innocent scenarios.
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Let's go with the legal term "knew or should have known" that it was provided by the agent
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Bama fan...
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Right there with ya.
I have cooled some since the initial shock.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Me too...
a little. At least I have stopped shaking now and my stomach has stopped flip-flopping as bad…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure what you’re talking about. The “consensus” is that the only UNC defender likely done is Marvin Austen.
Whoever gets the penalty
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Tar Heel is one two words, not one. Working sports journalists should know how to spell the moniker of a major university.
see you fucked yourself
when you tried to be a smart ass….go away
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
no you
tried to be all “hey im smarter the kleph” and it back fired on you…
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
here's the news troll
you are welcome to contribute to the discussion. but even hint at a flaming and your ass is banned.
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WOOHOO!!!!!
get ‘em kleph!!!!! Don’t make us call Pete troll………….
And he can't even spell the name of his soon-to-be suspended player.
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Good catch. Sort of humiliating, actually, but not as humiliating as listening to Bobby Bowden try to string together a sentence;)
Hmm. Remember this?
24-point comeback on national TV?
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bud, we're in your corner here
but don’t troll your rivals in our threads, please.
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I'm done
Hard not to post that Gif, ya know?
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i remember watching that game and thinking
jesus..if FSU ever figures out how to play defense…they won’t be stopped.
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
I doubt Alabama fans care. I’m here to discuss this particular issue. My how the mighty have fallen. Bragging about coming back on an 8-5 team.
Can you guys do this elsewhere?
We have a potential crisis on our hands.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
ok. i asked him to lay off
now why would you think that’s a green light for you? as i said above, if you have something to contribute please do so, but don’t just come here to crap on our forums with your nonsense.
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Kleph asked us to stop. We are done talking about Ponder shredding the highest paid defense in the country.
I am done dude.
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Screw you guys.
Go piddle each other somewhere else.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
really..
you again? Not here…Not now…we aren’t arguing over UNC today…
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
But this is further proof that it’s not about “UNC.” The NCAA is clearly going after bad agents, which—in the long run—is good for all of us as fans. Better to have this stuff dealt with now, before the season starts (and for the future).
who gives two shits about UNC....
its NOT about UNC..but they are involved..Like it or not and your team (or players) broke some NCAA rules…it might not be all about the Tar Heels but your team is in deep shit.
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
Sigh…I’ve yet to suggest otherwise. I was simply referring to the fact that likely punishments will be doled out on individual players (at UNC and elsewhere), and that the NCAA is clearly after bad agents, not renegade programs.
The NCAA is out
to get institutions who dont follow the rules..they are looking at programs who allow their players to drive around in cars that cost more than their house…
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
That news is like three day’s old. The car belongs to his NFL friend, (and UNC alum) Balmer, who was in town to work out. It’s not his. I don’t expect the death penalty for him taking his friend’s car for a spin.
exactly...
if this was the NCAA trying to get agents, then we would talking about a report that agents had been questioned by the NCAA and players were being contacted to confirm or deny the agents’ accounts of what happened…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know about you, but if I were an investigator, I would go to the players who have scholarships at stake first, not the agents. It’s always best to go after the most vulnerable people with the most to lose, like 20 year old kids with full ride scholarships and potential pro careers who are most likely to snitch.
which is what you completely refused to understand in the other thread
it has nothing to do with what the ncaa should be doing, it’s what they’ve shown to do in the past. the ncaa has zero authority over agents and certainly won’t put this kind of effort into issuing a sternly worded memo or something to them. they’ll hammer the players and then screw over their teams under the guise of LOIC like theyve done in the past. we’ve seen it before and there’s no reason to expect this to end any different.
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The NCAA has actually changed quite a great deal over the years and their methods and approach have historically varied depending on the leadership.
Also, I agreed with you that if the threshold of culpability veered into a lack of institutional control that UNC would be in trouble; however, recent reports suggest that that’s not the case and that Austin is the main target for activity that potentially occurred this summer.
now that’s flat out speculation. what we know is who is under investigation and the barest details of what for. saying which person is being eyed for anything specific is simply not possible at this point. and that goes double for dareus since it hasn’t even gotten to the ncaa yet.
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It’s not speculation. Marvin Austin doesn’t own a Bentley. Just because this hasn’t been picked up by the national media, doesn’t mean that I don’t have sources who are more reliable than some tweeting for SI in some New York office during the slowest season in sports.
if you are anonymous on the internet
your great sources aren’t jack shit.
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and all we have is your word for that
and you are just an anonymous poster. roll bama roll ain’t the los angeles times but it aint no fucking message board either.
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Sorry for any confusion, but I’m referring to sources who write for the publication that first broke the story, not random Interweb posters.
The publication has a message board, which isn’t exactly a new concept.
unless we have a name...
a publication and a means of contact we don’t believe jack shit. joe schad is a known reporter with a body of reliable work. i trust what he puts on twitter. not you.
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I haven’t put anything on Twitter and I actually trust professional writers who cover UNC for a living than a National writer. I’m sure you feel the same way about coverage of Alabama—who would be more plugged in, a local writer or Rick Reilly?
dude
you were just boasting about your great sources and that means jack shit coming from a known troll and anonymous poster. and as a professional journalist i know exactly how far the boast goes that you KNOW one or two who are reporting on this.
roll bama roll is a blog, chucklebunny. if there’s data we link to it. we don’t collect the news. we’ll give you our opinion for free but that’s about it.
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Ironic, considering the stuff you cited on the other thread, which was all just parsed together from Internet rumors.
How am I troll? I’m discussing the topic. This is all related. It’s not like I’m still arguing with the FSU fan are talking junk about your program.
no, you deliberately stirring shit
claiming how your big brother (who totally banged this hot chick once) told you about it.
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Dude, there is an updated article in the publication that first broke the story that’s written by professional writers who cover UNC for a living. That’s what I was referring to. They know more than Joe Schad or Andy Katz or insert any other national buffoon who has to cover a billion things at once.
and who, exactly, certified these
professional writers you keep blathering on about?
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please get this through your thick skull
1) WE DONT GIVE A SHIT
2) IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR PLAYER
3) BOASTING ABOUT YOUR CONTACTS ONLY CONFIRMS OUR OPINION OF YOU AS AN IDIOT
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by kleph on Jul 20, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
kleph = my new RBR man crush
plus one……..my hero
roll bama roll is a blog, chucklebunny
LOL! I am SOOO using this…awesome!
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
I have to admit that that was funny. We should all just take a deep breath. We’re in this together and you will enjoy watching us shred LSU and their idiot HC in ATL, in addition to watching their classless, inbred fans leave the Georgia Dome with their heads hanging in shame.
I'd enjoy seeing that, for sure,
but frankly, I’m not counting on it.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think they will be pulling...
for the Tar Heels; the only one without class seems to be you—at least our fans care about football.
I'm hoping to see LSU stomp a mudhole.
They may be idiots, but they is AR KINDA IDYUTS
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
An just so you know...
we are not in this together…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no.....just no
we hate LSU………however, they are SEC and the tarheels are a non entity to us……tarheels
I'll pull for any SEC team any day of the week.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here...
and I will be pulling for Bama to beat PSU on 9/11 and any NC opponent; we will have plenty of time to hate each other leading up to 11/6. Should be a great game and we will try our best to win.
yeah our local publications have those message boards too.
It’s called AL.com. Go look it up and see the high quality info provided there from the typing apes.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, unfortunately I read those boards during the Knox situation. Obviously, boards vary. This, again, isn’t breathtaking news—the idea that not all message boards are the same.
Regardless, that’s beside the point since I was referring to professional writers who cover UNC for a living.
and your dad can beat up our dad
fine. you made your point. are you going to tell us how cool you were in high school next?
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We are right now...
…if you want rational discussion, best to come back after the shockwaves have settled.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
we're sensitive because this is DAREUS!!!!
it’s not some UNC player that nobody cares about. just saying.
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
Yeah!
You can’t trust those Twitter machines with all their fancy computing and what not.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I gotta admit that the Bentley story sounded fishy. I mean, what percentage of americans do you think have ever even seen a bentley? So you’d have to be out of your mind to start driving one of those around if you’re a player.
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-Hank Hill
Chrysler has a car that looks Bentley-ish
I think it’s called the 300
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
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by AlabamaJammer on Jul 20, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Kleph I can confirm from a walk-on that the Bentley belongs to an NFL player
and that Austin does not own one. Whether he has use of one is another matter.
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honestly, we don't really give a shit.
we only care about dareus’ involvement in the party, not the breadth of the allegations against the rams.
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well, I think if we had an agent doling out bentley’s that it wouldn’t bode well for our chances with Dareus. So I think it’s good that some of the story revolving around how bad UNC was gets debunked.
In related news: Cam Newton was spotted flying around in one of these according to an anonymous source
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-Hank Hill
no...
the ncaa figured out how to play with facebook and twitter and decided to pretend to actually work on compliance. acting like bullies to a handful of players will do jack squat to solve the problem.
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So, wait...
…if they paid their own way there, and stayed on their own dime at Motel 6, we’re ok?
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
yes
but if he received anything AT the party we are in trouble.
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
What could this mean
since we are on “thin ice” with the NCAA already??
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
Hopefully not much...
…since he didn’t play after the infraction.
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Nothing
Since (if true, of course) Dareus didn’t play a down after being considered ineligible.
by PluckandGrit on Jul 20, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously though, take a deep breath.
while this is certainly not a good development, there’s no reason to jump to any conclusions. The university and the compliance office do a great job of educating players. So I’m holding out hope that Dareus didn’t accept any gifts. Still it’s within the realm of possibility that he did break some rules. We’ll have to see.
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-Hank Hill
…there’s no reason to jump to any conclusions.
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(hands over eyes)
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no on no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no n o no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
dd it go away yet?
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DAMNIT TODD
WE TOLD YOU TO EAT SOMETHING NASTY – IT’S ALL YOU FAULT
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DAMN IT!
I’M PACKING FOR VACATION AND THIS DROPS?! I’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO RELAX NOW!
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lol
i feel your pain, i just had my 1st son monday and i’m beyond pissed about what is going on today. are my priorities in order? depends on who you ask
how long should I
expect this sick feeling in my stomach to last?
That white stuff on the top of chickencrap...... is chickencrap.
We're Bama fans...
We accept that the queasy feeling is normal and are just glad we’re not throwing up our toenails.
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jul 20, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
There is no doubt he knew right from wrong considering the compliance dept’s education of the players. Let’s just hope he didn’t accept anything and didn’t sign this guy as his future agent.
ONE MORE YEAR, MARCEL, AND YOU COULD’VE HAD IT ALL.
well, i'm not going to be too hard on him yet...
according to espn’s joe schad (whose twitter feed has been a gold mine through all this) agents have said the South Beach player parties have been going on for years. if that’s the case, its likely everyone thought it was OK since it had been done before and the ncaa decided to finally grow some balls and fuck with everyone. because we know from the texbook case that pleading ignorance don’t do shit when they want to make an example for the sake of looking tough.
which sucks two ways, we’ll likely not have any way to plea out of the penalty when it comes down and they might be dickish enough to start looking retroactively at shit.
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i've updated the story and will let it stand for now...
what we know:
-dareus attended this party
-it is the same one the unc player under investigation by the ncaa was at and tweeted about
-the university (alabama) is investigating dareus’s involvement
-the ncaa has not been involved as yet
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CNS has the solution.
Someone said in another comment earlier that the NFL could help solve the agent problem but they have no incentive to. That is something I had been thinking myself. Apparently, Saban was thinking it too and he is good at incentives.
“What the NFL Players Association and the NFL need to do is if any agent breaks a rule and causes ineligibility for a player, they should suspend his [agent’s] license for a year or two,” Saban said. “I’m about ready for college football to say, ’Let’s just throw the NFL out. Don’t let them evaluate players. Don’t let them talk to players. Let them do it at the combine.’ If they are not going to help us, why should we help them?”
he doesn't sound too happy does he?
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was just thinking the same thing.
His reaction doesn’t settle my nerves any.
That white stuff on the top of chickencrap...... is chickencrap.
because he doesn't have time for this shit.
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you better fucking believe he does.
that quote is trite to start with and now is beyond overused. can we leave it for the trolls, por favor?
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well, perhaps you should have said something when we were discussing this shit the other day
http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2010/7/17/1574510/proposed-rbr-bannable-offenses
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by Stu from Tuscaloosa on Jul 20, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Well Saban will have plenty of questions to answer now.
Too bad they will all be the same one from 900 different people. He should love that. Enjoy that extra PT time Marcel.
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by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I have heard
that it might involve another player who enjoys fishing trips, but that’s just rumors
by PluckandGrit on Jul 20, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
just fyi
the fishing trip rumor has been going around again in the wake of the usc sanctions. right down to naming curtis anderson.
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thats a two day ban sir....
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Interesting that Dareus is the first JUNIOR linked.
That is scary. We had previously thought it was just seniors.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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why is that scary?
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Because it opens up the door for the rumors of junior or sophomore involvement to be true
Before now, all 7 rumored players were Seniors
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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It's not like he was going to hang around...
…for his senior year.
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You know...
…if Colt McCoy hadn’t gotten hurt these damn agents wouldn’t know who Dareus is.
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by Todd on Jul 20, 2010 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
and there are already texas fans gloating about how this is "karma"
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That is just sick
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by animalcracker on Jul 20, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
nope. just typical texas assholes
http://twitter.com/JohnDavid_XII/status/19026700610
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God, I hope he ends up getting drafted by the Redskins or Eagles (after playing for Bama this season of course) and continues to be a thorn in Texas’s side.
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by Zoltar on Jul 20, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Karma?
For what? Putting aside Texas’s whiny butt-hurtness, what did Dareus do to wrong Texas besides play some damn good football. Sometimes I’m embarrassed I grew up so close to this school.
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unfortunately, you're right...
…that’s the first thing the damn Texas fans in my office said when they heard me yell at the computer about this.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Success always brings new challenges
It’s like Coach Saban knows what he is talking about.
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by animalcracker on Jul 20, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that I care too much...
but aren’t we chided by the PTB about using this meme? Should we do as you say and not as you do?
no way...
this is one that never gets old. colt mccoy staying in the game cures anything.
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Fair enough.
Perhaps I was thinking of comments re: a certain running back’s eligibility that are too tired and played out.
Hey you leave eddie lacy out of this!
Lulz
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by BamaReturns07 on Jul 20, 2010 8:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ok. the shark just jumped that joke...
clay travis used it. it’s officially not funny now.
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Not funny at all
It’s like making out with a hot chick and then finding out she picked your pocket.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
estes has a post up...
not much new but does note this:
It is believed that involvement from Dareus in this investigation would likely not be considered an institutional matter so long as he did not participate in a game while ineligible. Dareus’ future eligibility, however, could certainly be impacted during the 2010 season.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/07/report_ua_investigating_marcel.html
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For those freaking out:
remember Julio and Mark Ingram’s fishing trip last year? Have faith in our boys.
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i do
but i have jack squat in terms of confidence when it comes to the ncaa.
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You know how we might one of these days change the logo?
by Todd on Jul 20, 2010 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
i love how theres no K
just gotta use your imgination i guess.
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At this point I wouldn't complete the word either...
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by AlabamaJammer on Jul 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You know there's a C missing, too, b....
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 20, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish we had all the facts in place...
…I blame the 24-hour news cycle.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 5:54 PM CDT reply actions
well, keep in mind what coach saban said
the university is in the process of getting the facts together. right now the best thing for the situation is let them do their job, which they’ve proven they are quite good at.
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right...
…but without the rush to be the first ones in print about this, maybe ESPN would’ve waited until the facts were evident and not be forced to publish what amounts to supposition.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
nah...
get it out there before media days when it would get really ugly. coach saban will be up front an center tomorrow handling it and taking the heat. which is the ideal situation media-wise.
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I wonder what it would have been like if Dareus had been one of the 3 players attending?
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which wouldn't have looked good.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
sure
but not as bad as putting him in the fishbowl. saban would take the heat from the press and burn them right back.
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that would go against
everything they stand for…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
we...
’everything we stand for. rbr is part of “the media” and you better believe i moved as fast as i can to post this when i heard about it.
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which is why...
…RBR is the first place we all turn when we need to know things about our team. I found out about it when I received the RBR tweet on my phone.
I was saying that the 24 hour news cycle in general is an issue, not RBR specifically…this website is my homepage.
It’s the not-knowing-all-the-facts that’s killing me, nothing else.
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you...that is exactly what I meant too...
you said it better than I could have…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep........
I heard about this on finebaum and made a beeline for RBR…………
Which is why RBR is thefirstonly place we all turn when we need to know things about our team.
Much better me thinks…
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excellent correction, buddy...
…many thanks :)
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 20, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get upset with me, I was talking about ESPN specifically...
Queen said ESPN, not the media in general. RBR is different. ESPN reports things before they have the whole story so that everyone else (e.g. Texas fans, the barners, etc.) can start flaming us before they know the whole story. All of us here at RBR are like minded, therefore, we get together, discuss scenarios, and talk until we feel better…I absolutely meant no disrespect to anyone but ESPN…
And I will come here to get the TRUE story before I listen to ESPN anyways…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not upset
but i do think folks should remember that we here at rbr are part of this evil media conspiracy. in a nice way, of course.
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by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
abject stupidity
isn’t evil. just very destructive and abominably ugly to behold.
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can you imagine
what came out of coach’s mouth when he first got news of this?
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
I would have hated to have been the one
that had to tell him about it! And I’m sure he said some curse words that I have never heard before and I am sure would never want to hear!
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
This immediately made me think of
those Hitler videos (specifically the Tennessee one). Maybe one needs to be made for this incident.
a thing can be proven to have actually occured
until a downfall parody is made of it.
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the one good thing about this is it's before fall practice...
it shouldn’t affect the coming season and there’s time to find a way to adjust to the loss in the line if he can’t play. obviously you can’t match his experience and talent, but we won’t be trying to fill the gap on the fly.
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good point
while we would certainly miss him, there would be ample time to fix this
by CrimsonTide229 on Jul 20, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
and it would affect the coming season if we lose him but if some kind of sanction occurred it wouldn’t apply to the upcoming season. now if it turns out he went to a similar party last year…
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then deep shit would be descending upon us
by CrimsonTide229 on Jul 20, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
if that happens
ill burn down indianapolis myself. sherman did it to the city of my birth, i owe the fuckers to start with.
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hahahahahaha!!!!!
and i will be standing right there with you. watching……and laughing
I feel like when it comes to Alabama, I have no shame
by CrimsonTide229 on Jul 20, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
fap fap fap fap...
…like that? That would be kinda sick….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 20, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck man
Why couldn’t this have been Luther Davis? lol Damn I don’t want to lose Dareus this season. We’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg with Dareus and it would suck to lose him now. Please don’t let this amount to shit.
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because luther isn't likely to be a first round pick
come next april.
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I know that
…It was a joke. Like haha
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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jul 20, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
there are times (like this one to be exact)
when Kleph doesn’t get the funny…or at least he doesn’t acknowledge it.
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
i'm a bit testy at the moment
i’m sure you understand.
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completely understand...
my stomach is all upset now and since it is still only 4:15 here, my work is suffering severely…
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
my point exactly
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
isn't that the guy running for governor?
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
I swear to God
I’m going to be kneecapping some fools.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
No shit........
Angry RBR mob on this agent’s front doorstep is what I recommend……….
At least he didn't curb stomp any off duty police officers.
Of course, we could have just blamed the victim if that happened like our friends to the north.
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Does anyone else remember the
Ochocinco tweet about seeing Julio Jones and needing to hit the gym. FMFMFMFMFMMMFMFMFMFMFMFMFMFM
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
that was pretty old.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
It
was after the NC game. So its not that old.
Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
you're right. was in march. Seems like forever ago though.
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I saw that...
… but who even knows if that account is legitimate?
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You doubt the word of Ochocinco?
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He said he saw Julio...
… but that was the extent of it. He could have seen him anywhere doing anything, including a random spring break trip.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously..
I LOVE this fanbase…the passion…the ability to overreact in a moments notice…it brings tears to my eyes..
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
the possibility of this whole thing
is bringing tears to my eyes….
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
the shit will buff out one way or another
Saban knows what the F he’s doing. If darius screwed up than he’ll pay the price. I hope to god its not true but i have faith my dear.
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DAMN DAMN DAMN
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Saban is right though...
The NFL is going to have to either get in on stopping this crap (aren’t agents registered with the NFLPA?), or suffer.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
Yes they are...
… but apparently the punishments they dole out to agents doing this aren’t enough of a deterrent.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
certianly not compared to the cut
of a first rounders contract
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Nope...
You do the math… a 3% cut of a contract valued at 40+ million.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't I hear that there some states that
have laws about agents or something? And if so, does Alabama? And if we don’t, then Sessions needs to get to work on that asap!!
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
that won't do jack.
remember hte AG blusted mightily about getting the agent involved with andre… and then issued a press release four months later saying it was dropped.
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Then let's do what CNS suggested then.
Suspend their licenses for a year or two. And I’ll go a step further, make them take a cut in their contract percentages too!
by BamaGirlinDallas on Jul 20, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
i like his other idea...
want alabama’s blue chip talent? keep agents off our lawn. otherwise, see you at the combine.
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We'd still have agent-related education
And God knows they’d still get exposure. I think we’d be fine.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
They need to suspend them permanently.
For 3% of 40 million dollars, I think a lot of agents would risk a year ban, at least. Fire them!
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That too.
Think about it, though. Hypothetically speaking: kid takes money his junior year, which kills his senior year, which kills his draft status, which kills his life. Sure the kid shouldn’t have taken it, but the agent is equally as guilty here. I say, give the agent the same punishment – take his life away too. It’s only fair.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm certainly not going to defend agents...
but, in that scenario what does the agent gain? If the draft status is killed then the agent just pissed away the $.
What I'm saying
is that this is what agents having this kind of contact with players places the players in danger of. If all that is taken away from the agent is one deal’s worth of money, the agent is just going to move on to the next big fish after the year ban expires. If they are never allowed to work that job again, however, it’s a whole different ball game.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Back off the ledge, folks...
Even if Marcell did accept a flight to Miami and attend the party and all that he could probably regain his eligibility after a game or two suspension so long as he makes restitution. If that is all that it is and he is up front and honest with the NCAA about it, he may have to pay back $500 for the flight and then be back by the time Penn State comes to town.
Now, obviously, if he was rolling around in a Bentley like some rumored Marvin Austin to be, now that’s an issue, but back off the damn ledge folks. There is not even any indication that the NCAA has contacted Dareus yet, so there’s no reason to just assume the worst. Until we have confirmation of any of that actually happening, there is no reason to pop off as if it’s true.
UA compliance will investigate the living hell out of it — as they have just about everything since the Antonio Langham fiasco — and we’ll move forward accordingly. As long as Marcell didn’t do anything overly egregious and is up front and honest with UA and (if they come calling) the NCAA, then this shouldn’t be a major issue.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions
you're a man after my own heart.
Still, I’m less inclined to forgive him if he accepted a plane ticket. Having a few rounds on the house and maybe a lap dance or two is one thing, but a premeditated, planned out extra benefit shows a much more severe lack of judgment.
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so yea, I’d say if the NCAA says a 2 game penalty, Saban should make it 6 if not kick him off the team- assuming he took a plane ticket and went all Benny Hill in south beach on an agent’s dime.
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-Hank Hill
I could get behind Saban increasing the penalty...
…if Dareus was really guilty of anything, other than attending a party. I don’t wish to see him kicked off the team, this is his first mistake, that we know of. Again, pending whatever info comes out of this.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
and, as i pointed out this morning
the program has busted it’s ass since the andre situation to address the problem of rogue agents. if that kind of oversight can’t cope with it what the hell is the ncaa going to accomplish from it’s throne indianapolis.
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From everything I have read...
…UA has done everything in their power to try and put a stop to this kind of situation.
The only avenue left for the school to do is hire out some hitmen. I volunteer to carry a kneecapping bat.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
which is exaclty what we did with the textbook deal
and look how that turned out.
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Well
This time, there are no games played with Dareus after this party yet. So worst case should be that he is declared ineligible for the upcoming season. It will sting a little but we can cope. We actually have some quality depth. We dealt with the loss of Hightower for the lion’s share of last season.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Well, maybe that's it...
… and for the record, maybe it’s nothing. Perhaps he flew down on his own dime and payed for everything, who knows? That may be unlikely, but it’s a possibility.
The point of the matter is not that he may not have made a mistake, it’s just to say that something like accepting a free flight wouldn’t be overly egregious and if he were open and honest with all concerned parties, he likely wouldn’t miss much time.
And Saban won’t give extra punishment like that, no reason to. Go with the NCAA and UA compliance says, and go from there. We already drill this into everyone’s head enough as it is, and extending a suspension isn’t going to deter someone who was going to do it regardless.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
here's my concern...
if its something that has been done for some time then dareus says “everyone did it, how was i supposed to know?” which is reasonable and hard to blame the kid but, as we saw in the textbook fiasco, even when that is identified, addressed and rectified, the ncaa is likely to ream us in the ass because they want to make some kind of useless point.
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I disagree...
Saban drills these guys on agents and receiving gifts….This is more to do with the temptation of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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Nah...
Unless this is a widespread thing with a lot of players, to the point that it would be an institutional issue, I don’t think UA has anything to worry about. The real question here is the eligibility of Dareus.
The textbook deal was another issue completely. There you were dealing with an institution-wide issue where the distribution system in place was faulty.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree it's a different case
what i meant was that the university took every step possible to address it in an open manner and the ncaa didn’t really give a damn. it’s a bad precedent for this.
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Per Cecil Hurt on Twitter...
UA also checking if other players besides Dareus attended Miami agent’s party.
Nothing shocking here. Again, you knew that UA compliance was going to investigate the hell out of this one. Hopefully there were no others with him, but of course I’d be lying if I said that ‘Bama didn’t have a boatload of other players that shady agents are drooling over.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:32 PM CDT reply actions
Prudent.
Would be stupid not to check.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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Exactly...
… it’s just due diligence. It’d be negligence on our part if we didn’t.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
it doesn't sound good for Dareus if Saban is talking about eligibility
and who are the agents involved? let’s visit them and offer our opinions IN PERSON.
I could get behind that idea.
Go medieval on some asses.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
yeah i'd like to go dareus on their asses
too soon? i’m just trying to find a reason to smile….
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Worst case scenario...
…we lose Dareus but we could lose him to a freak injury as well. We finally have talent stockpiled on our team. We survived Hightower last season, if we have to we will survive Dareus this season. Cheer up, this Bud’s for You…
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
Well, look...
Well, look, he talked about it, but let’s cut the shit, it’d be stupid if he didn’t talk about it. Obviously that is the issue here, so no use ignoring the elephant in the room.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
How in hell are these college sudents...
getting the money to go to South Beach? When I was a student at 21, I could barely afford a kids meal…..
This smells of Andre Smith before the Utes embarressed us…
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
It's a valid point, admittedly...
I don’t know how he would have come up with the money. I know his mother just passed, and I know his family had some tough times financially when he was growing up. We’ll see.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
well, obviously we don't have any facts to go by aside from the fact that he attended a party.
but you don’t have to break your pocket book to go to the beach. Do we even know if he flew? Anyway, unless we find out he flew first class and rented out a beachfront condo, I’m not going to pre-judge him because he might not come from a wealthy family.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Hotels this time of year...
run upwards of $250+ a night, unless he crached with relatives.
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
True...
Truth, though in all fairness that is about a 12-hour drive. And, frankly, if he did in fact attend an agent party — really, really bad idea in the first place — and the agent was doling out free trips to everyone else, Dareus probably got one too.
That’s not to convict him before we know what really happened, mind you, but in all fairness that is probably the most likely scenario.
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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I hadn’t heard that it was confirmed that the agent was giving out free trips to everyone, only that that’s part of what the ncaa was looking into.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
thats one of the things listed as part of the unc players investigation
we don’t know anything about dareus other than he was allegedly there.
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I don't know that it has been confirmed...
… but by the same token I don’t think anyone really doubts that is what happened either.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 20, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Can Andre's situation...
be that far out of thier minds??
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
But is it really that hard for kids today to take on that kind of, um, debt? It’s ridiculously easy for college students to get credit cards; if you’re going to be a millionaire in a few months, it’s not a big deal to take on some cc debt.
That’s why I laughed at some rival fans who cited one of our player’s dinner bill at the freaking Cheesecake Factory, as if these guys don’t have credit cards like most college students.
South Carolina Starting RT Richardson expected to miss season due to shoulder surgery
They lose the guy who would block Marcel
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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no offense
but the usc came is the last thing im worried about right now.
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SHIT SHIT SHIT
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions
I hate to say it but....
If this turns out to be true and he did in fact take gifts from an agent, Saban has to drive this behavior away and dismiss Dareus from the team.
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i'll let coach saban make that call...
and i’m ready to stand by whatever he decides.
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completely agree
he can’t say he didn’t know. since Andre, Saban has gone way detailed on how not to screw up in these situations. if Dareus is in the wrong here, he should be gone regardless of what NCAA twits say.
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
I have to echo that sentiment.
a significant, cut and dry, premeditated extra benefit from an agent means you get your ass kicked out of town.
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-Hank Hill
i have a hard time
imagining this one is going to be cut and dried. if you recall, andre’s wasn’t particularly cut and dried when the facts were known.
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The facts weren't known -- that's the problem
Andre didn’t cooperate with the UA investigation and we didn’t want to risk surprises.
I'm wrong all the time.
If CNS's response is not a good omen IMO,
I don’t think he’d be firing a shot across the NFL’s bow if he didn’t think this was going to cost him a star player for the year.
This fucking blows.
well, its not the first time he's had to deal with this
and the man isn’t famous for his patience.
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seriously guys..
STEP OFF THE LEDGE!!!
the story is like an hour old…lets not be talking about dismissing peeps…
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by bammer on Jul 20, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm calmer than you are, dude.
We’re not on the ledge. Nobody is saying dismiss him, unless the details are bad.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
dude...
chill..i can tell through your typing you are worked up…CALM THE FUCK DOWN!
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
NCAA, mark it zero!
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
exactly, IF he's in the wrong, he's gone.
We’ve been through this shit before. Nobody is bigger than the program.
heck yeah talk about dismissing him
anytime a player brings NCAA scrutiny on Bama after all Saban has gone through to educate these guys … I LOVE watching Dareus play, but the team has to be the most important and these guys have to remember that everything is a set up (that’s probably a Saban quote).
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
i understand that...
but when we are using words such as If, When, Maybe….we obviously don’t have any kind of evidence to support talk of dismissing a player…All we know right now is that Marcell attended a party…thats about it.
And im 100% kidding…someones gotta bring some humor in the midst of chaos..
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
And im 100% kidding
correction…my tone is kidding my reply to you was serious :)
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
Mind blown.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
CNS is always willing to elaborate about various issues if he sees a good reason to do so. See spring recruiting, early signing etc. He has thought out opinions on important football issues that he is willing to share. Just dont ask him about depth charts.
There are so little NFL players and so many agents. I learned from a former NFL assistant AD that a few firms have over 80% of the players’ contracts. This provides the incentive for agents to do whatever it takes to sign a prospect. I agree that there needs to be stiff penalties for these types of situations, but I don’t see the agents’ professional associations eating their own children because of the competition of the industry.
After listening to the ESPN video...
The range of penalty ranges from paying back gifts and a 2-3 game suspension to taking away all of the player’s eligibility.
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all i know is...
if coach saban needs someone to dig a deep hole and fill the bottom with quicklime, i can handle it.
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by kleph on Jul 20, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
another question...
If UA has to self-punish Marcel, how do they decide what the appropriate punishment might be?
that's a question for holiday
who has been mia this afternoon.
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Half the season
to look tough methinks
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by Stu from Tuscaloosa on Jul 20, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
pick up sticks?
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
quarters
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
If the NCAA
was that cool…we’d all be much happier.
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
After USC...
the NCAA officials are on a power trip !!
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
Deoends in his level of involvement.
If he just attended the party, not knowing it was an agent throwing it, then just internal stuff(stairs, winds, etc). If he attended, got no benefits but knew it was an agent, I say 3 games. If he attended, knew and got some stuff paid for and he can pay it back, half the season. Anything worse, I hate to say it but see ya Marcel, great BCSNCG you had, will always remember you fondly with an asterisk.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
I disagree with one point
If he (or anyone else on the team) had anything paid for, and he knew it was a violation but did it anyway, he should be gone whether or not he can pay it back. Given our recent NCAA history, our current position in the repeat violator window, and the number of players currently on the team that will be faced with similar agent-type temptations, we cannot have players who are willing to do stuff like this on the hope that they don’t get caught.
I’d add to that point that it must be a big ticket item like a plane ticket or lodging. I wouldn’t kick him out necessarily if he got drunk and accepted a few shots and a lap dance at a party.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
The deciding point for me is "knew it was a violation"
If it was small enough that he thought it was no big deal – like an extra ice cube in his drink or something, then OK he can come back after a suspension. If it was something he knew or believed to be against the rules, then I stand by what I wrote above.
The opening day of SEC Media Days just got a lot more interesting
I think we’ll be able to tell a lot more about the severity after observing CNS tomorrow.
DVR it...
ESPNU tomorrow and Thursday.
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it's live on SEC website
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Do
you know what time it starts both days?
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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jul 20, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
11am believe ...
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
1:00 to 5:30 cst Wed.
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
8:30am to 1:00pm cst Thursday
Media Day 2
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
right, Bama starts at 1pm CST Wed
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which lucky media will ask the first question?
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
First Question Tommorrow:
“If Marcell Dareus is deemed ineligible, who will take his spot on the depth chart?”
by Alabamanator on Jul 20, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Insta-ban for you!
for mentioning that abominable name.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
if he asks greg mcelroy if he's a virgin
i think saban will be within his rights to ritually gut him on the podium as a demonstration for all the other reporters.
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I know this...
…I will be skipping Slimedome tomorrow for sure. I do not need my BP to spike while driving.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
new stories on the situation.
not much new but here you go….
pro football talk: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/20/alabama-may-be-latest-school-entangled-in-growing-player-agent-scandal/
nbc sports: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38334404/ns/sports-college_football/
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when CBS gets in on it, we're screwed
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lol
University of Alabama, Birmingham athletic department officials are investigating whether offensive lineman Marcel Dareus and other UA players attended an agent’s party in Miami earlier this summer, and, if so, how the trip was funded.
UA is interested in whether any NCAA rules were broken by Dareus, a junior offensive lineman who was named first-team Preseason All-Southeastern Conference by league coaches Tuesday, or any other Crimson Tide players who may have attended the party.
ESPN.com reported Tuesday that Dareus is part of an NCAA investigation into improper contact between players and sports agents such as former Auburn coach Pat Dye who has amazingly represented several recent Alabama players. Alabama head coach Mike Price confirmed to ESPN.com that the UA compliance department is “looking into it.”
Price could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
The same party in Miami’s North Beach area is being probed by NCAA investigators who have spoken to North Carolina defensive end Marvin Austin and South Carolina tight end Weslye Snipes, according to published reports. The NCAA is trying to determine who paid for transportation, lodging, food and other expenses.
-College Football News
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-Hank Hill
it was satire.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
dr saturday: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Alabama-s-Dareus-lates-target-in-NCAA-s-anti-age?urn=ncaaf,257204
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I thought Alabama had a....
“look out for your fellow teammate” program. If that’s still in place, there may be more names to come.
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+1
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:33 PM CDT reply actions
maybe we should rethink this idea of being friendly to the NFL
and skewering the media. anybody want to suggest that to the big guy tomorrow?
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
Distraction and God forbid...
NCAA sanctions are effecting our chances of repeating in 2010.
By the way, the NC game is on ESPNU right now. It just may be our last chance to see #57…..
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@ 21 - 24
"We all look at it not so much as a rebuilding year, but more as a reloading year.." - Greg McElroy
????????????????????????????????
WHY THE HELL DOES THE UNIVERSITY NOT PUT THESE ATHLETES ON LOCKDOWN DURING THE OFFSEASON? IF PLAYERS LEAVE TUSCALOOSA, YOU SURE AS HELL SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY’RE GOING AND FOR WHAT REASONS. AND THEN YOU BETTER KEEP IN CONTACT WITH THEM WHILE THEYRE AWAY. in my mind these precautions should be in effect well prior to all this agent drama. at the same time though, if he DID indeed do anything that violates his ineligibility, then his ass deserves it. as much as i HATE to see the kid possibly be done at alabama, it takes a careless person to make those mistakes and i think we’ll benefit from him being gone. IF thats the case. damn these players dont THINK. the offseason should be the easiest part of the year.
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go ahead...keyboards are cheap.
I thought they were in the 4th qtr program in the summer.
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haha i mean as far as the stress should go. its just absolutely ridiculous, these guys WILL have their lives madeee if they just sit patient. i know its probably difficult when youre in their situation, but they KNOW the odds of getting found out…they KNOW
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it’s college football, not probation.
by brandonh on Jul 20, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
The battery in his ankle bracelet wore out
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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1. They are students, not prisoners
2. They are kids. Kids are dumb. Hell, most adults are dumb, so how much more can you expect from a kid?
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
for eligibility purposes. they belong to the university and the athletic department as long as theyre committed to their scholarship, and if theyre NOT doing anything wrong then a simple phone call to nick saban to say “hey coach, no worries im just visiting my family” shouldnt be a big deal. im not saying they should be interrogated, but watched. because like you said, THEY ARE KIDS and kids need guidance and to be watchedd. agree?
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/facepalm
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-Hank Hill
Is he serious? I don't post here much and don't wanna fall for it.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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go for it
its part of the adventure.
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by kleph on Jul 20, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You expect Saban (more likely a staffer) to field phone calls everytime someone on the team goes to visit a family member?
No.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
no hes got pee-ons for that
but apparently it wouldve been useful in marcells case?
no?
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-Paul "Bear" Bryant
No.
Have you ever heard of “lying”?
If a kid is going to do something stupid, then that’s the end of the story. You can’t stop everything. For instance, if you have kids, did you (will you) tag along in the backseat everytime they go out or go on a date in high school?
Would that stop something bad from happening? Probably. But that doesn’t make it less crazy.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 20, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
They should just
nonchalantly chloroform the players when they arrive on campus, surgically implant microchip trackers in each of their femurs, and then track them with outdated FBI equipment. They could program an alarm to go off every time the chip detects heavy rhythmic base tones (probably a party), and it could be programmed to check for blood alcohol content too. They’d NEVER get away with anything again!
MWAH HA HA HA HA.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
have to admit we were feeling superior to those chumps at GA & TN
couple of weeks ago. which problem would we rather have now? hmmm, NCAA or unconscious policeman … let me think.
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it was a joke
the only thing cheering me up right now is at least we’re not them. thug U
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
well that and the GA blackout of 2008, the FL retro jerseys of 2009
oh wait, Dareus was in those games. crashed again …
In a crisis, don't hide behind anything or anybody. They're going to find you anyway. -- Bear Bryant
Macell Darius
Darius was unknown until the BCS Championship game, now he’s a celebrity Although i like Marcell a lot he’s just a big ole country boy that is a beast on the football field. Inviting Darius to Miami, is like Santa iinviting a 6yr old to a toy store.
theodis young jr
in the words of the coach on waterboy
we live to play another day…in a drunken slurred voice
It's not the will to win, but the will to prepare to win that makes the difference.
-Paul "Bear" Bryant
Oh beer
How did people deal with their troubles for the 100,000 years before they invented you?
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
genocide
and masturbation
It's not the will to win, but the will to prepare to win that makes the difference.
-Paul "Bear" Bryant
in that order...
that’s how I’d do it…sometimes you need a few mass graves to get the old dog to hunt, you know?
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
actually
it is speculated that beer, and cultivation of the grain crops for brewing, were the driving forces behind agriculture and hence cities and civilization.
Then again, some others will tell ya’ that the world is 6,000 years old
(ducks after fragging the thread)
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
6,000; 6,000,000,000
Still took ‘em a damn long time to come up with something as perfect as Shiner Bock. Which I’m not drinking, because it doesn’t exist within 200 miles of me.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I'm gonna start drinking
and hopefully sleep through the rest of the offseason.
I’m so friggin pissed.
We should have called Winston Wolf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANPsHKpti48&feature=related
jk
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by Zoltar on Jul 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
couple points via twitter
estes notes that dareus knew austin personally, so there that connection. and feldman, goodbread and several other says there quite a number of players from other schools who were at this same soiree.
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good point so why does ESPN only identify Bama and UNC players?
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they are confirmed through other sources.
in dareus’ case it was saban saying the compliance office was looking into it.
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Because Dareus knocked half of them out of the story.
He then intercepted the other half’s story and took it into the endzone.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
If he just went to hang out with a friend
And wasn’t the primary recipient of the gift, that’s 6 games instead of a season, right?
/speculation.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I do think it'll cover at least 3-4 more players
It’ll be the story of the month for sure.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
not Bama players
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cecil hurt says
that’s one of the things they aer looking into but that isn’t to say they know anyone else was or wasnt there.
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by bamax2natl on Jul 20, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I have had enough hell for one night
I am off to a Nyquil night…plain ol’ Nyquil, not grape drank
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
sounds like a plan.
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Dareus and Andre smith both went to the same high school
I say fuck Huffman high.
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by BamaReturns07 on Jul 20, 2010 8:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I went there too,
and I’m inclined to agree. Of course, they didn’t have their first shooting at good ol’ HHS until about five years after I graduated, but my memories of the place aren’t particularly fond.
If you're feeling down
go read the story I linked in a fan shot about Stallings helping out a family with a disabled kid.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
if you're down...
and troubled…
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
I really miss...
…those days when we were all whining about how long the offseason was, and how we wished something would happen to relieve the monotony….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 20, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
I will never complain
about a boring offseason again. Although I can’t remember a boring offseason since about 1978 or so.
They had those then!
Those musta been the days!
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jul 20, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
hey guys
i got a case of beer and a pack of blunts who wants to party?
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f&*k!
guess i missed it….
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by tempebamafan on Jul 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions
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