As Expected, Marcell Dareus Ineligible For Now
by outsidethesidelines on Jul 21, 2010 12:35 PM CDT
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The latest on the ongoing Marcell Dareus situation comes from the Tuscaloosa News:
University of Alabama defensive end Marcell Dareus has been declared ineligible and is believed to be the only UA player who attended a party in Miami hosted by a sports agent, a source close to the situation told The Tuscaloosa News.
UA will petition immediately for the reinstatement of Dareus' eligibility. The NCAA will make the ultimate ruling on when, or if, Dareus will be reinstated. It is standard procedure for a player to be declared ineligible immediately whenever a question of whether the player violated NCAA rules arises.
Austin's alleged agent involvement, according to the source, is of a more serious nature than that of Dareus.
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Good to know his involvement is thought to be less than Austin’s …..stupid tarheels
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
jjjjjjjkkkkkk
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
careful
you’ll have that UNC troll all over you like bull manure on a Barner
which is like a bunch of flies
dive bombing a durham cow patty.
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Definitely the best thing we could do right now...
Assume the worst, hope for the best. I agree with the decision.
Furthermore, I’m not worried about it. It sounds like at the very worst, Dareus would have to pay restitution.
by CaliforniaTide on Jul 21, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions
Is there no possibility from learning from others' mistakes?
How many times does this have to happen (even inside one program) before someone realizes that this ish don’t fly.
I don’t know which is worse: 1) Not knowing that accepting a flight, etc. was a violation, 2) Thinking he wouldn’t get caught.
I know, I know, he is innocent until proven guilty but the bottom line is that he was present at a party far from home that was put on by an agent. Should know better, IMO. (steps off soapbox)
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
If he accepted the flight. If he knew the party was put on by an agent before he got there. If. If. If.
He’s a 20-year-old guy. I hear you have to be at least 25 before you stop making mistakes.
I'm wrong all the time.
Pete you are wrong all the time
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Although, since I cannot remember any particular instance, I am going to take that signature as sarcastic.
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Henry Rollins, paraphrased...
UA Man meets UNC Man
UNC Man wears his myth on his skin
UA Man has to explain his and keeps his shirt all buttoned up
UNC Man greets UA Man with a well-rehearsed cold stare
UA Man replies by issuing forth horseshit
UNC Man retaliates by taking the concrete reality of the
situation and lodging it,like a wedge,right between both sides of
UA Man’s brain
UA Man is caught off gaurd by this apparent non-abstraction
There is one full minute of confusion
UA Man becomes UNC Man
UNC Man becomes UA Man
War is declared
UA Man cheats by calling in reinforcements
UNC Man is set upon by a mob and murdered
Said mob then turns on UA Man and he dies a broken man
U of U? Never...lol
"If" sounds good, but...
How many times did you pay for a flight from B’ham to South Florida for “any ole party”. I remember in college having to seriously consider going to a party across town due to the $5 in gas it would’ve cost me, and how that would’ve affected the rest of my week financially. Maybe times have changed over the past 10 years to that extent, but it would appear that he either accepted the flight to “any ole party”, or he paid his own way to a party that he knew would be put on by someone who was of some future value to him.
(Ass)u(me), but it all adds up to something other than absolute oblivion.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
You couldn’t scrounge up the money for a flight once in the course of four years?
You shoulda been drinking natty light instead of patron, you probably could’ve managed.
I'm wrong all the time.
Well, my dumb mistakes...
were on a much smaller scale.
But I see where you’re coming from. You can always manage to do the things that are important to you.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
Do we even know that he flew??
I don’t think we really know ANYTHING other than that he was there, do we? For all we know, him and a few friends took a Florida road trip after spring semester was done. (Was spring semester done?) That’s NOT shocking. Thousands of kids do it every year.
And even if he flew, so what? It was Memorial Day weekend and he wanted to get away. So what?
It's not a true comparison
You weren’t about to go on to make millions. Thus, you would be more hesitant to take on credit card debt, something that a guy like Dareus would not have to bat an eye at.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 21, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you know what my future business endeavors were at the time?
I’m damn good on the spoons, and I play a mean triangle. I just never pursued it as a career due to a bad relationship I was in at the time.
Also, I’ve got a shit ton of baseball cards, a few that could produce some serious cheese. You may have heard of a few of them: Dale Murphy… yeah, I’ve got his 1987 Topps hologram card with a pseudo-signature. You might wanna look up what that’s worth in 2010 dollars…
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
Take your own advice:
Calm down. There’s nothing wrong with speaking hypothetically. Surely you can agree that, “If it is the case that he accepted any kind of benefit from someone other than his mother or his coach, he should have known better.” Right now, you’re absolutely right, we don’t know either way. But TopDaddy isn’t screaming “Hang ’em high!” He’s saying “IF → THEN.” Nothing wrong with that. (And sorry for calling you Shirley).
He’s doing way more than speaking hypothetically.
the bottom line is that he was present at a party far from home that was put on by an agent. Should know better, IMO
I'm wrong all the time.
damn those IMO's!!!!!!!!!!
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
IMO's are OK, IMO
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
"UA will petition immediately for the reinstatement of Dareus' eligibility"
If we are petitioning immediately, doesn’t this sound like we have finished investigating and expect him to be reinstated
We’d petition for this unless it was stupidly obvious that it wasn’t going to be granted.
So… it’s good news in that it sounds like they’ve finished up and probably didn’t find him taking six-figure payouts or signing agency contracts.
It’s bad news because it means they probably found a benefits violation.
I'm wrong all the time.
They did the same for Julio and Ingram last year
and it had zero bearing on the season, so I don’t think it means anything in and of itself.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 21, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, that’s an option, but — just my opinion here — I’d rather have no benefits violations at all than benefits violations that don’t appear to impact the season.
I'm wrong all the time.
Check. And. Mate.
Agreed.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 21, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Who wants to bet that the Situation had something to do with this?
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions
Were in Miami Bitch!
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Apostrophe's make a huge difference in what you were trying to say there...
but I get it now…
And yes, I hope you’re right.
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
sorry "the Situation"
"Sympathy has expired Longhorns" WallaceWade04
"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll
by The Voice of Reason on Jul 21, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry“the Situation”fucking tool bag
fixed that for ya…
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
Hey Bammer...
nice to hear from ya…
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
I think we should be ok
But damn it guys when are the kids gonna learn. Besides, he is a football player at alabama, if he wants to party or get laid he has plenty of options right here.
"get your ass ready for a streetfight... and i like a streetfight."
by make his ass quit! on Jul 21, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions
“Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.” ~Douglas Adams
I'm wrong all the time.
by PeteHoliday on Jul 21, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOVE him...
…here’s my favorite:
“He hoped and prayed that there wasn’t an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn’t an afterlife.” — Douglas Adams
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 21, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i prefer terry pratchett
build a man a fire and he’s warm for a day. set him on fire and he’s warm for the rest of his life.
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So lets say
Marcell needs to pay back the hotel and plane ticket….what if he doesn’t have the money? Its my understanding of his background that he’s not got a lot and his mother has passed away..So how does a student athlete with no job pay for a $500 plane ticket and $100 hotel room?
dear lord say it wouldn’t come from a booster :)
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
I got him covered, don't worry.
PS to NCAA: IT IS A JOKE, PLEASE DON’T CALL MY HOUSE.
I'm wrong all the time.
I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while…..
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
I KILLED A GUY!
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 21, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope to God he wasn't staying at the Fountainbleau there.
I can guarantee you it was more than $100/night!
Didn't Mark Ingram and Julio
have to pay back money from their fishing trip last year, and how did they?
I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban
Yes, they did.
I can only assume their families paid it. I don’t think either one is too poor to pay for a fishing trip.
Potential good news
Per EDSBS: “Mark Schlabach reported on ESPN Radio that Alabama is cooperating fully, and that the worst Dareus is likely to face is a three to four game suspension for the contact (which he supposedly recognized immediately upon arrival, and then left. We hope it’s not longer than that, since he seems like a good enough dude and is a brilliant player to watch.)”
Something doesn’t sound right about that . . . agent contact is not against the rules.
I'm wrong all the time.
i thought
Agents had unlimited contact with players….as long as no gifts, money etc were handed out?
"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran
Hope he's right.
But still, there’s a BIG difference between a 3 game suspension (back for Arky) and a 4 game suspension (out for Arky).
I'm saying 3 games
and if so we will be lucky as hell.
Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame
Yikes - What's going on in the SEC?
Are we retroing back to the old convict teams of Miami?
"Stats are for losers - I like winning games!!" Will Muschamp
by littlelonghorngirl on Jul 21, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions
if you have news of major infractions or criminal activity
we’d be most interested to hear of it. for now, though, all we have are allegations of agents acting improperly. it’s one of the things that tends to happen when you have a conference that regularly produces national championship football teams. maybe one day you’ll know what that’s like.
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by kleph on Jul 21, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Miami used to win national championships too! :-)
"Stats are for losers - I like winning games!!" Will Muschamp
by littlelonghorngirl on Jul 22, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly...
…so did Texas….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 25, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
So, Kleph, the correlation is.....
in order to win national championships you have to cheat?
"Stats are for losers - I like winning games!!" Will Muschamp
by littlelonghorngirl on Jul 26, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I like you...
…but you really should reread what kleph said. If you did, you may realize that a closer correlation would be “in order to win national championships, you have to amass the kind of talent that keeps agents constantly circling overhead….”
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 26, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah-so
Mack has been known to recruit a few players now and then himself – and weren’t we in the BCS championship game as well?. My point was that MIAMI’s recruiting of the penal institutions won them nat’l championships and ALSO attracted the slimeball agents – I guess the TYPE of talent you recruit will do that. :-)
OK, I admit it – I have a little troll in me – sue me! And sue me for liking your “nice little saturday” name as well – very witty and original.
"Stats are for losers - I like winning games!!" Will Muschamp
by littlelonghorngirl on Jul 26, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
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