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Multiple Weekends Confirmed

Late last night we pieced enough information together here at RBR to figure out there were likely multiple weekends in which something was going on in South Beach with Marvin Austin and company, including the weekend of May 15th. Indeed that is the case,and Liz Mullen of the Sports Business Journal has the full details

Sources told SportsBusiness Journal there were multiple trips to South Florida by college players, including a May 15 trip in which multiple college football players attended Gore's pool party during the day and a party later that Saturday night at South Beach nightclub Cameo. Gore in a telephone interview said that he had the party at his house and partied later that night at the club, adding that he did not see whether those players were there but could not say for certain that they were not.

"I don't even know those guys. There were a lot of people there; it was crazy," Gore said. He added that no agent or financial adviser, or other person involved in the athlete representation business paid for his party. "I paid for my own party," Gore said.

So, Gore's home by day and club Cameo by night. Gore pretty vehemently denies any wrongdoing at his party, but he admittedly concedes that a lot of people were in attendance, so it's a distinct possibility that he really didn't know who all was there. Nevertheless, he was equally adamant about paying for his own party, so it's unlikely it was an agent-sponsored event. Furthermore, his agent is Drew Rosenhaus, and while he's a pretty unlikable guy, he also has more than enough clout in the sports agency world that he has no need to resort to such underhanded tactics to get clients.

More likely, the potential trouble came later that night at Cameo. Notice that Gore claims no responsibility for that one way or the other -- it's actually not even said if he attended -- so that was likely another beast entirely. It was most likely there and then that the agent-hosted party took place.

The potential good news here is that this latest report could at least someone validate Dareus' claims. Keep in mind that Dareus has apparently contended all along that he merely went to South Beach to relax and hang out with some friends, but then unknowingly attended a party with agents present. By initially just hanging out with Austin and company at a friend's home with no confirmed agent sightings, perhaps that does prove his intent a bit. Perhaps I'm grasping for straws here, but if nothing else, there is not anything in this latest report that would refute his claims.

Either way, this does confirm the rough time line that we sketched out late last night. Dareus flew down to Miami sometime shortly before May 15th, attended the party in question, and then left sometime around May 18th after hearing word that his mother had passed away.

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Al Gore?

oh, former “da ewe” RB Frank Gore. my bad…

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by tempebamafan on Jul 22, 2010 3:40 PM CDT reply actions  

OTS

Do we really know when Dareus went down there? AFAIK, there hasn’t been any info on that. The article with Dareus’s side of the story made it sound like he wasn’t down there long as it claims he never used the hotel room that had been reserved.

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by Zoltar on Jul 22, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The article with Dareus’s side of the story made it sound like he wasn’t down there long as it claims he never used the hotel room that had been reserved.

Dareus claims that he never used the hotel that Austin had lined up for him, not that he didn’t stay down there at all. It is my understanding that he probably got a place of his own. I would hope that he saw Austin had him lined up with a high-end, pricey suite, and upon seeing this decided to stay the hell away from it. In any event, that’s what UA would want him to do. I don’t think, to date, that anyone has seriously contended that Dareus didn’t make the trip.

And I think it’s a given, based on basic information, that Dareus was there on the weekend of the 15th. If he left when he found out his mother died, he had to go down the weekend of the 15th because his mother died on the 18th.

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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 22, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

why is it a given? You’re assuming he was there on the weekend for some reason. He could have gone down there on monday or tuesday. I’m pretty sure those guys were partying every night, not just on the weekends.

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by Zoltar on Jul 22, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

And with school out, there's no reason Mark couldn't have gone on a weekday.

I’d still bet that he was there for the weekend. But I could lose that bet.

by CarrotTop4 on Jul 22, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you mean Dareus.

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by Zoltar on Jul 22, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

why is it a given? You’re assuming he was there on the weekend for some reason. He could have gone down there on monday or tuesday. I’m pretty sure those guys were partying every night, not just on the weekends.

The reason I assume that is because, at this point, the only confirmed reports of them being out at a party are on the weekends, i.e. the 15th and the 29th. It could have been another night, of course, but we don’t know any of that at this point. That is why I am saying he likely attended the party on the 15th… he attended one of them, that’s for certain, and it wasn’t the one on the 29th.

Now maybe he did fly down Monday the 17th or so, but again we really do not know that. Until we have more information, I think we probably just have to assume that he flew down for that weekend and attended the party going on that Saturday night (the 15th).

At the very least, he probably didn’t arrive any earlier than the 13th or 14th because Austin didn’t show up until then, and he left around the 18th when his mother died. The days may be off a couple one way or the other, but I think we have a pretty good grasp on the time line.

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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 22, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Gore's party makes some sense

as in Glen Coffee’s teammate………

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by TideFanAtlanta on Jul 22, 2010 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

It's starting to sound to me

like Marcel’s story is becoming more and more credible……….Furthermore, in my opinion, it looks like not only did he not intend to do anything that would be a violation, when he found himself in a situation that looked a little bit wrong, he immediately asked to leave and tried to avoid the situation…….if this indeed turns out to be true, I don’t see how he can be punished by the NCAA or by Alabama

by p3bhambama on Jul 22, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

don't try explaining that to our rivals

without heavy protection from hyperbole and sarcasm.

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by kleph on Jul 22, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I expect nothing less..........

however, all I want is for Marcel to be able to put this behind him and get to terrorizing opposing quarterbacks………..

by p3bhambama on Jul 22, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

and I'm sure

tarheel will be here before long to put in his one cent worth………..

by p3bhambama on Jul 22, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

he’s become more accurate and reliable?

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by kleph on Jul 22, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Banhammer get dropped?

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 22, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only thing I'm concerned about...

Is, if Marcell was worried that agents were present, and felt he couldn’t take the room and had to leave early, why did he not talk with Saban about it until last Sunday? He may have talked with someone in compliance, but from what I’ve read it hasn’t sounded like it so far.

by Bam-I-Am on Jul 22, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

in all honesty...

at this point i’m back to where my main worry is the secondary. we’ll find out the resolution to this nonsense soon enough.

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by kleph on Jul 22, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are right of course...

but it sure would be nice to have a beast like Marcell forcing some errors for our DB’s to capitalize on.

by Bam-I-Am on Jul 22, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I just read about that earlier. Is he possibly gonna play this season now?

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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possible...

… still think he’s likely a safety though.

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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 22, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps...

It’s really hard to say because the safety position opposite Barron is far from solidified. Unless either Lester or Woodson really show out in Fall camp it’s hard to just pencil Menzie in as a back-up to Barron, because if those two struggle then perhaps Menzie can vie for a starting job if he is healthy.

On the other hand, i do think you have to keep in mind that Menzie’s health is still up in the air. The news on him to date is very, very encouraging, and at the least it looks like he will be able to contribute some in 2010, which is much better than the near guaranteed redshirt season that most expected. That said, there is a big, big difference between looking fine in some summer pass skeletons as opposed to strapping on the pads and going at it come August. He’s still facing a big transition, and while he may be healthy enough to play that’s not to say that he will be 100% physically.

We’ll have to see how it works out. For now let’s just say that there are some definite opportunities for playing time in the defensive backfield, and that if Menzie is in relatively good health he will certainly have the opportunity to earn playing time. It’s nice to have one more option at safety given that we’ve got all of one proven player at the position, and for now that’s probably all we should expect to get out of Menzie.

The upside is that if he is relatively healthy and somewhat contribute in the defensive backfield, that ought to leave Brandon Gibson and Kendall Kelly free to remain on offense full time.

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by outsidethesidelines on Jul 23, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

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