Things To Freak Out About for 2010: Draft Day Hangover
Just when I thought we were done with the Freak Out series I go and read the college football season preview magazines and up pops another, The Draft Day Hangover.
The rise of recruiting under Coach Saban has made Alabama a football powerhouse and the NFL is primed to take advantage of the largess. And lo it came to pass last April as a banner number of Alabama players heard their name called from the podium at Radio City Music Hall.
The downside, obviously, is the team now has to replace the lost talent and experience. While the coaching staff have worked to ensure the talent is there (a whopping 11 members of this year's recruiting class were enrolled early and took part in Spring practice) experience is a bit harder to replace.
The whole idea of these posts was to examine in some detail the arguments that have been levied against the Crimson Tide going into this season and it seems everyone want to make a great deal of hay over the fact last April. Here was the final tally for the Southeast Conference.
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First round picks indicated in parenthesis
Now according to the folks paid much more than us to discuss these matters, losing a boatload of players to the NFL Draft is a sure warning sign a team is due for regression in the next season. And, sure enough, a quick glance at Phil Steeles "Draft Day Party Hangover" list shows Florida, Alabama and Tennessee as prime candidates for this kind of step backward.
Essentially it's the same issue we've seen pop up in questions about the defense due to the fact there is only two projected starters returning in 2010. But since we want to ensure everyone has the right responses when grilled by opposing fans at the bar, we decided to look the numbers involving SEC teams a little more closely...
‡ National Champion, † SEC Champion
Just looking at the past decade in the SEC, it would seem losing more than six players to the NFL draft seems makes it almost certain a team will suffer a sub double-digit win season. In fact, the more likely result is a eight or nine-win campaign.
The big example that jumps out is Florida 2007. The Gators lost nine players to the draft including one first rounder in the wake of their national championship. A disappointing 9-4 season ensued but Urban Meyer and company used that to lauch the 2008 version that attained the crystal football once again. If there is a comparison to the 2010 Crimson Tide in the mind of the pundits, this is most likely it.
Still, the odd are far from overwhelming. Of the 18 SEC teams that have lost six or more players to the draft a full third have gone on to have 10 or more victories in the ensuing season ('02 Georgia, '03 Georgia, '05 Georgia, '07 Tennessee, '03 Tennessee and '06 LSU.)
Steele contends that 70% of the teams that "rank among the top of the NCAA in players drafted" have weaker records. As you might expect, he's got an arcane system to back up his assessment but I figured I'd just give a look at the SEC teams since I had the data on my spreadsheet.
Sure enough, when you look at the SEC teams who lost three or more players to the draft there seems to be a rough correlation between how many hit the road and a team's chances of a weaker season afterward.
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And the number of teams losing players in the first round isn't cause for optimism either. Of the 37 SEC teams who saw players selected in the first round, more than half (51%) suffered a weaker record the subsequent season.
to expect the worst, right Georgia?
Still, given that the Crimson Tide went undefeated on the march to the BCS National Championship it seems a little disingenuous to suggest they won't improve next year. And there's plenty reason to believe that a solid team with good recruiting can weather the adversity. Take Georgia, for example.
During the first half of the decade, Georgia had a habit of losing players to the draft and coming back strong during the next season. In Mark Richt's second season, 2002, the Bulldogs saw a whopping eight players go to the NFL in the Spring. That didn't stop them from racking up a 13-1 record in the following season as well as the SEC Championship.
And it wasn't a complete fluke. The 2003 draft plucked seven players from the Bulldogs roster and they still pulled out an 11-win season the next Fall. By Steele's metric that goes into the "weaker season" category but it shows the inherent flaw to this assessment: teams operating at this level only have down as an option. Which is why Coach Saban is so obsessive about nipping the whole "repeat" talk about the 2010 Crimson Tide in the bud.
So does the Draft Day Hangover warrant full on Freak Out status? That depends on how much of an excuse you need to start drinking before noon on any given day of the week. But we advise focusing your concerns on the specific issues with the defense that took the largest hit by departing players.
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BLAST YOU
Wednesday, and your bitter greeting.
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 AM CDT reply actions
In theory, we should be concerned.
What makes this feel different is the huge onslaught of unbelievable talent that is just now getting seasoned and coming to the fore combined with the fact we have a lot of experienced talent coming back especially on D. Hightower, Dareus (hopefully), Chapman are examples of very talented guys who have experience and although they may not have been starters they have experience equivalent to starters. But we won’t know until they kick it off.
by Son of Roaring Dan on Jul 28, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions
There will always be a wall of worry
to climb following such a successful 2009/10 season.
I remember the teeth-nashing about last years supposed Bama weaknesses – QB and the offensive line. We end up with a Heisman and a QB who is very effective at managing the game. 14-0.
I must admit this year concerns me, although its not only the rebuilding job on D. Special teams is all new, punter/kicker, snapper. Combine this with the much talked about 6 SEC games against well rested teams coming off bye weeks. The bye week thing is huge. As a result, I believe we drop two regular season games this year. Sadly, our team may be just about as good as last years team. Its the bye’s that suck ass.
Perhaps if our O can dominate time of posession, with natl lows in turnovers, and high third down/red zone conversions, we can get it done this year by keeping the inexperienced D off the field.
None of this will stop me from being the single most obnoxious supportive Bama fan in Cincinnati, though.
BTW: is SD State game on pay per view? Whats the cost? Do ya have to buy a package?
don't know if it's on PPV, however
Gameplan is $129, you can usually early bird order for $99 or $109. Individual PPVs are, I believe, limited to a viewing area. For instance, Iowa games here are $34.95, but only available in the B10 footprint, ditto for Nebraska games.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I think every Iowa game was available on the basic DirecTV package.
On ABC, ESPN or BTN.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jul 28, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok...I had evil cable...
my complex had a lock-out agreement and it was Cox or nothing.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 3, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what she said.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 3, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Alabama, but
looking at those numbers, is there any doubt whatsoever that LSU and Tennessee underacheived with the talent on-hand?
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM CDT reply actions
ummm...
That depends on how much of an excuse you need to start drinking before noon on any given day of the week
This’ll do, thanks!
by Queen of the Universe on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions
Cranberry and Vodka, please.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jul 28, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Kleph
very insightful as usual. I think there are a lot of things to consider when using these numbers to predict future outcomes. For one, you must consider the positions you are losing to the NFL. If you are losing a QB, several linemen or your entire backfield, then yes I am sure you will see a significant drop off.
I do think we will have a drop off in terms of a loss or two next year; however I still think we will be in the hunt for the SECC and the NCG. We will lose a large part of our defense, and you can not over state how much we have lost in the way of special teams. It will require a lot of luck and focus for us to repeat. With all that being said, I can not point a at a single team who should beat us.
Finally, I do not think that we should consider a one or two loss season as a “disappointment.”
well, i never stated it outright
but i was hoping the tone of my posting would make it clear i’m somewhat skeptical of using this as a predictive indicator. i think there’s a common-sense element at work here that gets overestimated by many folks. yes, losing a lot of talent and experience is tough, but its only absolutely critical for programs who have done nothing but get by on the talent alone.
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And obviously...
…we’d rather be losing high numbers of players to the NFL every year than not doing so….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll chalk that up to typographical errors...
but finding a list of SEC records by year was a serious pain in the ass. i had to dig back through each team’s individual record to pull this together. you should get the TSK intern cracking on that.
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Teams with more draft picks are probably going to have a better record on average
which would probably account for some of the trend towards having a weaker season the following year.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill

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