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Saban closes practice to NFL scouts | TideSports.com

As reported yesterday, Saban has put an end to the virtually unfettered access NFL scouts have had in Tuscaloosa over the past two years after Agent Gate, and it's looking like Urban Meyer has, too (emphasis mine):

"Alabama is keeping guys out for the time being, but, as I understand it, that will be lifted at a certain point," said the scout, who asked not to be identified, and who said he had confirmed the lockout with multiple other scouts. "It also looks like Florida is doing the same thing."

Former Gator and current Pittsburgh Steeler Markice Pouncey is currently being investigated on suspicion that he took money from an agent before the team's Sugar Bowl victory last season, and Meyer must not be pleased at the prospect of vacating that victory if the allegations are true.  With all the talent that Alabama and Florida have stockpiled, unscrupulous agents are going to be a problem for each program for a long time and it's no surprise that each are taking drastic steps to try to put an end to them.  As some critics have pointed out, both teams have done so well in recruiting lately because of the opportunity to make it to the NFL each team represents, and limiting scout access might wind up blowing up in Saban and Meyer's faces.  But Pro Football Talk seems to think it's a good first step:

Even though the NFL technically has no blame in this situation, Saban realizes that the league will tiptoe on eggshells when it comes to college coaches, given that college football provides a free farm system for the pro game.  Thus, by holding the NFL responsible for something it really didn't do, Saban ultimately could force the NFL to clean up someone else's mess.

Whether the solution comes from persuading the union to adequately beef up enforcement actions or imposing potential penalties on NFL players who have been paid at the college level or adopting rules compelling NFL players to cooperate with NCAA investigations or some combination of those and other ideas, slamming the door on the scouts gives the NFL a strong incentive to roll up its sleeves and work on fixing the situation.

Even though scouts are no longer essentially free to come and go as they choose, Saban has left the door open for scheduled viewing sessions. 

Saban keeping high-flying Tide's minds grounded | SI.com

If you thought Saban took a few minutes to bask in the glow of a national championship, think again:

"Coach Saban came down on us immediately after the game because of the way we played in the fourth quarter,'' quarterback Greg McElroy said.

SI has a great article on how Saban is fighting to keep the team grounded, insisting (correctly) that last season has nothing to do with this season, and the army of Mini-Sabans are apparently on the same page:

"He's so strong-minded you don't even feel like you won anything,'' cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick said.

"As a guy who's been around special teams, really successful teams, I don't want to have that complacency, that sense of relaxation,'' McElroy said. "I want to feel pressed. I want to strive for something. We understand this year is completely different from last year. No one is going to hand us the trophy now because of what we accomplished this.''

Sims moves again; works with Tide running backs | TideSports.com

There's been a lot of speculation about the movement of Blake Sims over the last week, from safety his first night, to working with the QBs (but without the black no contact jersey) for several days, and then with the RBs yesterday.  Saban may have given us a clue as to what's actually going on there with this quote:

'We only have three quarterbacks on scholarship,' said Alabama coach Nick Saban. 'Blake played quarterback (in high school). I think Blake is one of those guys who is very open to playing something besides quarterback. 'Since he wasn't here in the summer, he didn't really have the opportunity to learn and grow as a quarterback. But as a guy that can play quarterback on scout team, as a guy who could run ‘wildcat' (formation) for the defense and the quarterback runs, he's a talented guy that has natural running skills.'

Sounds like Sims is headed for the expected redshirt and a year's worth of scout team heroics to me.

Who will return kickoffs and punts for the Crimson Tide? | al.com

Everyone knows about Javier Arenas and his return skills, but after going back and watching a few games and some highlights from last season, I had honestly forgotten just how important his returns had become.  Several times a big return by Javy helped spark a wallowing offense (think Iron Bowl), and finding someone to replace him is no small feat.  While there are plenty of speedy athletes on the team, finding someone who can field a kick cleanly and with whom ball security is not an issue is the first priority, and Trent Richardson and Julio Jones seem to be the odds on favorites:

"We've got more guys right now than the law allows," Alabama coach Nick Saban said at a news conference following the first of two practices on Tuesday.

"We feel really good about Trent, who's really a good kickoff-return guy. We feel good about Julio being sort of the off-returner, because he's a really good blocker, which is what he played all last year."

"It's really the same thing on punt returns. Julio's very good at punt returns -- a different style. ..."

Others mentioned as candidates include Marquis Maze, Darius Hanks, Corey Grant, DeAndrew White, DeMarcus Milliner, and even Mark Ingram.  Still, I'd put money down that we'll be seeing Richardson doing a lot of return work this season for a couple of reasons:

1. He has ridiculous open field speed coupled with a power back's ability to make holes.  If his vision has improved from last season, kid will be a force with the ball in the open field.

2. For all the talk about how he is going to take snaps away from Ingram this year, Ingram is still the guy on this offense and using Richardson as a kick returner is a way to give a playmaker of his caliber opportunities with the ball without taking opportunities from a playmaker like Ingram.

Star-divide

and etc...

McCarron is confident as McElroy's backup | TideSports.com

What, specifically, has McElroy passed down to his understudy? 'Leadership,' McCarron said. 'That probably wasn't my best quality when I came here, just because I'm not a very outspoken guy. I try to lead by example more than just being a vocal leader. Mac does a great job of doing that and getting guys around him to play well. I think I've learned that great attribute from him.'

Video: Check out Alabama OLB Ed Stinson and guard Chance Warmack at practice | al.com

Alabama preseason camp: Day 6, Practice 8

According to Kausler, Stinson was working behind presumptive starter at Jack Courtney Upshaw in the evening session, so keep an eye out for him this season.

Great expectations can lead to greater letdown - ESPN

ESPN's Mark Schlabach warns against buyers remorse for some of the trendier dark horse picks this season.

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I really like Warmacks size. He’s the perfect looking guard. Not too tall and has good feet. Im really excited to see how our Oline does this year. I think they will be more like the ’08 squad that just pounded teams into dust.

And with all this talk that we are going to open up the offense, something tells me that we are going to pound the ball even more than we did last year…With a young defense that will need to grow, ball control will be key in the early part of the season.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Wide...I like it too

One thing I noticed from the ESPN All Access thing is that Courtney Upshaw is bigger than I realized.

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by TideFanAtlanta on Aug 11, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pounding will continue.

I think the offense will pick their spots to open up and attack the field vertically. I don’t think we’ll go totally conservative, so McElroy’s ball-security decision-making will again be critical.

We need Julio to have a good year, of course; but it’s critical that Maze, et al, step up in a big way, and we find a TE to take up where Colin Peek left off.

by Jeff Jones on Aug 11, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Saban has never had a “air attack” at any school he’s been at. Hell even at the dolphins it was ball control and defense. I just don’t see us changing our personality all that much. Especially when we know we can run the ball like nobodys business.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rohan Davey could sling the ball. Other than that his teams have been mostly run first and play defense.

"Don't let the bastards get you down." - Nick Faldo to Greg Norman at the conclusion of the 1996 Masters.

by Paranormal on Aug 11, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of a stretch

All UM has to do is block better, run better, pass better, catch better, defend against the pass and run better, protect the ball better and force more turnovers. Sounds like UM is right there…haha.

by sixfoot7 on Aug 11, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

don't forgot "manage the clock"

and “stop giving up 30 points a game” and “start signing too many players,” hell, if they’re going to copy the SEC elite, they better do it the right way.

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." - Dean Martin

by Thomas Walker Esq on Aug 11, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tweaks?

So, only a couple tweaks — start by pre-emptively declaring themselves 14-0* for 2010.

(* moral victories)

by Jeff Jones on Aug 11, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tweaks = Start over

Don’t know why but this reminds me of a Brett Favre quote from a while ago. He said something close to, “I think if we go out there are score a few touchdowns and keep them from scoring we should have a good shot at winning.” Here the author of that article is basically saying if UM can do all the things they couldn’t do the past two seasons they should have a good shot at winning the league. Thank you for that astute assessment.

by sixfoot7 on Aug 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahah, you are right, Favre did say that.

Bama's Pluck and Grit have Writ Her Name in Crimson Flame

by TideFanAtlanta on Aug 11, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Madden
If they don’t score any points, then they’re probably not going to win the game

"Yeah, it's Tennessee, that's the way it is sometimes." - Corey Zickefoose, Pulitzer Prize winner and robbery victim

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." - Dean Martin

by Thomas Walker Esq on Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said something along the lines...

….of “every time they have outscored their opponent they have won” one Monday night game. I laughed for the rest of the game.

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by Todd on Aug 11, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of our old pal Shug Jordan

I used to love to watch “The Shug Jordan Show” on Sunday afternoons after Auburn had gotten pounded on Saturday. He would always say something like “Well you know Carl, if we hadn’t had those five turnovers and twenty missed tackles and six sacks and if the other team hadn’t run up five hundred yards of offense and hadn’t scored thirty-five points, well heck we might have won that game!”. Remember “Cartoon Carl”, the host of the show? Great memories! Roll Tide!!!!

by AtlBamaGuy on Aug 11, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was a terribly

written post…Really..its starts with defense? Thats a shocker. And players who played like shit a year ago need to improve this year…Wow what insight.

UM needs a hell of a lot more than a few players to improve to get on the level of Alabama. Its called recruit better, have better coaches, develop talent far better and oh yeah…..fire your head coach.

Michigan will never be MEEEChigan as long as RR is their HC.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

And switching to a 3-3-5....

…in a conference that prides itself on big ass linemen and power backs is SMRT.

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by Todd on Aug 11, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

jesus...

Nebraska/ Winsconsin will rape them…litterally.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

those long midwestern winter nights

can make a man mighty lonely.

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by kleph on Aug 11, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

lulz

but think about if a team in the SEC went to the 3-3-5…they would never win a conference game…so they’d basically be Vandy.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

easy....

he’s not an auburn fan..duh!

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 11, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

neb just switched to a "4-2-5 'peso' " which is a stupid name btw....

but maybe they’ll ditch it next year when they join the big televin?

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Aug 11, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

I bet the guys at that other “blog-to-remain-nameless” in Maize and Blue country had a stroke when they read that!

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Aug 11, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm debating the utility/hilarity of going over there to posta link to it myself....

debate solved, screw them. i’m not going.

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Aug 11, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Running game question..........

How much, if ever, will we see Ingram and Richardson in the backfield together?

I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban

by jtCRIMSON on Aug 11, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

mcelwain said...

don’t hold your breath.

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by kleph on Aug 11, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saban jumped in their shit after the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP Game!

I love hearing that from GMAC. I do remember Saban saying that he KNEW by the way the team was celebrating at half time that we would sort of slack off in the 2nd half. He let them have 15 minutes of fame and congrats and then gave them the what for. Glad to hear it because we are certainly the media darlings lately.

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by TideFanAtlanta on Aug 11, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

The PTI guys are about to discuss Saban

Dan Lebatard is on the show, so I’m sure his disdain for all things Saban will be on full display.

by tc16cav on Aug 11, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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