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Mark Ingram Has Knee Surgery, Will Miss Season Opener

Talk about the kind of thing you dread seeing happen in a practice preparing for a cupcake:

Alabama's Heisman Trophy-winning tailback Mark Ingram underwent arthroscopic surgery this morning on his left knee, according to a statement by Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban.

Ingram will be out for Saturday's game against San Jose State and evaluated on a week-to-week basis after that. Alabama hosts Penn State on Sept. 11 and visits Duke on Sept. 18.

Apparently the injury happened late in practice yesterday, but there is no word just yet on the circumstances surrounding it.

The good news is that Saban made it very clear that this was a minor injury that would allow for a full recovery in a relatively short period of time. Clearly this was something that the coaching staff wanted to go ahead and get done now so Ingram would be 100% healthy once the season really got going. From that perspective, step back from the ledge here. It's a short term loss but a long-term gain in a few weeks, and it's better to see Ingram go ahead and get this taken care of now instead of fighting lingering knee issues all year long. I tend to think it is much preferable to miss some time early but get fully healthy in a few weeks than it is to have a situation like we did a year ago with Julio Jones, where he plays every week but really isn't getting back near 100% until November rolls around.

With that said, however, the Penn State game is only about eleven days away, and while it wouldn't be completely out of the question for him to return for that game, that would be an aggressive recovery schedule. The odds are probably that he misses the Penn State game altogether, or at least that Trent Richardson shoulders the bulk of the load. Until Ingram can get a bill of clean health and regains all strength in his knee, it's going to be up to Richardson, Eddie Lacy, and Demetrius Goode to carry the load. For now, I imagine that Ingram will perhaps return for the Duke game, certainly for the Arkansas game, but that he will likely miss the Penn State game.

The Penn State game looks to be the only source of concern right now. We should be able to beat both San Jose State and Duke even without the services of Ingram, and we're 26 days away from making the road trip to Fayetteville to take on Arkansas. If this injury is as minor as it has been described by Saban and various media outlets, Ingram ought to be fine and ready to go by the time we get the Hogs. Make no mistake about it, though, Richardson, Lacy, and Goode are probably going to have to get the job done against Penn State. For us to win there, they'll need to play well and the rest of the offense will need to play accordingly as well.

Update: Kleph e-mailed sports injury guru Will Carroll -- whom many of you may know from Baseball Prospectus, among other publications -- and asked him, given the information we have so far, what type of injury would produce this general recovery time frame after an arthroscopic surgery. Carroll replied as follows:

Cleaned it out -- mostly focus on the meniscus. Check the bone, maybe. It's 2-4 weeks and much more on the low end. Cain's Andrews' protege and very good.

Consider that some more good news. I don't see anything here that would indicate that this will be a long-term injury, and I expect he'll be good to go by the Arkansas game. More than anything else, the big issue here will be less about Ingram than it will be the ability of our team to cope without him in the Penn State game. I'm pretty bullish on that front, but regardless that's the question more so than anything about Ingram's recovery. By all accounts, Ingram ought to be in good shape when the meat of the schedule arrives starting in late September.

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Let us hope

that this will be the last we hear of this type of injury….. please…I only have one more willing human sacrifice left!

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by SRGBama on Aug 31, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

There's always Todd

I voted for Kleph and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

by BamaReturns07 on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Saban's statement:
“Mark Ingram sustained a left knee injury late in Monday’s practice. It was a situation where everyone involved thought it would be better to take care of now, so he would not have any issues with it later in the season.

“Mark had an arthroscopic procedure this morning with Dr. Cain and Dr. Andrews and it was successful. We have full confidence in our medical staff and we know the doctors and athletic trainers will do an outstanding job in taking care of Mark and assisting him in his rehab.

“Mark will definitely be out for this week’s game against San Jose State and we will manage this on a week to week basis beyond this week. We will make every decision in the future based on what’s best for Mark and his career as we consult with Dr. Cain and Dr. Andrews on his progress. This is not an injury that will affect Mark’s future ability to make a full recovery in a relatively short time frame.”

via rolltide.com

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

…after reading last paragraph.

Maybe it’s just a torn meniscus or something like that. Or they might have just been looking at it to be sure it wasn’t something worse.

Todd…time for you to eat something nasty.

On the bright side, I guess #3 will get a few more carries.

-D.

by DMaguire27 on Aug 31, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

D'oh!

That was supposed to say (moves razor blade away from wrists after reading last paragraph).

-D.

by DMaguire27 on Aug 31, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

given what saban has (or, more to the point, hasn't) said...

it’s almost impossible to tell. this may just have been an exploratory operation to specifically determine what damage may or may not have been done. that’ll sideline him for a few weeks but wouldn’t mean there’s any damage at all. this is a real possibility since most of the other actions taken in this type of procedure would seem to require a much more substantial recuperation period.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you. Amen ...

And amen.

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by SoundCheckMama on Aug 31, 2010 11:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

EDDIE MFIN LACY!!!

That sucks, though, my boy Ingram needs to get healthy so he can roll like a big dawg!

I voted for Kleph and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

by BamaReturns07 on Aug 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate it for Ingram

Let’s hope he ’s back full strength for Arky.

by toofull on Aug 31, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Even without Ingram our backfield is better than most NFL teams,

I just hope and pray that Igram will be “a’ight”

I haven't seen a beatin' like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose!

by CousinEddie on Aug 31, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

it sounds like...

the training staff doesn’t want this to linger like julio’s knee issue did last year.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

No way to whitewash

I can read between the lines…this will limit him. No doubt about it

by DennyChimes on Aug 31, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

no playing?

yeah, that’ll do it.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

funny how the sideline can limit ones production

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Knee injury

for a RB that cuts like Ingram. …not good.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

by brandonh on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s what she said?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

whoa.

I know you’re kidding, but that is a little too much don’t you think?

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by thrashcan on Aug 31, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope

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by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get your Trich for heisman t shirts out

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Bet this is left over from last season.....don't matter and I'm not worried

Roll on Trent and Eddie………Just get well Mark. Next year NFL draft son.

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by TideFanAtlanta on Aug 31, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

No way

did they wait til 4 days before kickoff to address a nagging injury. Not saying it’s horrible, but it definitely wasn’t left over from last season.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

No he was good all off season this is a fluke( shout out to the big man)

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions  

No matter...

how much we hear Trent is just as good or better, we all know deep down there is only one Mark Ingram and that sick feeling we all got when we read this is proof. He really is a special player.

"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"

by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

there's a pretty big difference between going in crisis mode due to losing a player

and feeling confident in the depth that has been amassed at a given position. while we might be sanguine over the ability of the team to perform without mark in the lineup, nary a one of us believes he’s not an essential part of this team and want him back as soon as possible.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

True... No way to sugarcoat this.

But we have been lucky the last couple of years with the number of injuries that have occurred. Even with an injury to Hightower last year, look at what that team accomplished. Injuries will ALWAYS happen and there is really only one cure for injuries to a team. Recruiting to depth which I think we all agree is something that CNS has accomplished handily.

by Bam-I-Am on Aug 31, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Even if Trent IS better, we’re still significantly better with BOTH of them playing than we are with either one alone.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

or, to put it another way...

we don’t want to be in a position where another injury puts us in serious jepoardy.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Or even just getting a little nicked up like Ingram did against Texas… Wasn’t a serious injury and he was even able to get back in later in the game… But if something like that happened to Richardson, Lacy will have to grow up REAL fast.

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by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you do both without contradicting yourself?

I believe we can survive this without a doubt and didn’t mean to sound apocalyptic or that anyone was mitigating Mark’s essentiality to the success of the team, but this is a big loss. Even Alabama can’t lose a player of Mark’s caliber and not be affected in some way, shape or form. I hope I am not over emphasizng Mark’s contribution and depreciating the rest of the team, but I get the impression sometimes, from fans in general, that the opposite is the case.

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by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was clarifying your point

not disagreeing with you.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, sorry Kleph, my bad!

 …then well said and carry on

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by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

right!

isn’t this CRAZY? we just learned our first heisman winner and #1 go-to-guy had knee surgery a mere 4 days before kickoff and 5 seconds after we collectively screamed SHIT our next thought was, Well ok, Trent and Eddie will have to get the job done for a few games. That blows my mind.

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by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa people

Saban said that it was minor. He’ll be week-to-week after SJS. This is definitely something he can make a full recovery from. It sucks , and it could lead to other more serious injuries, but right now it’s just a minor knee injury. Back away from the ledge.

by toofull on Aug 31, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

That is so great!

I understand hate. I'm a Alabama fan.

by Destindune on Aug 31, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where are doctors at? we need hypotheticals that work out good for us stat!

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Only lawyers on this blog.

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that and smart asses.

I understand hate. I'm a Alabama fan.

by Destindune on Aug 31, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the asses part.

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by Bens4vcobra on Sep 1, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

This might just do in Ingram's Heisman repeat chances . . .

although he had been pretty much written off by the national commentators already. (On the other hand, I suppose a miraculous recovery and big game against Penn State could be a huge boost to his candidacy.)

by Son of Roaring Dan on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

honestly

the heisman trophy has been dead last on my interests for the season. i’m happy as hell he won it last year but the to-do about him “repeating” is the most idiotic story line sportswriters have created in the off season.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep,

his repeat chances were minimal at best even before this, and that won’t mean a da** thing anyway in the big scheme, which is us winning and losing games.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If this guy couldn't even repeat, what were Mark's chances?

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

Ingram would have repeated anyway. We are going to throw it more this year and we are going to run Trent more.

The PSU game is now a bigger concern. I feel TR is just as good, but our secert was that both guys could be rested. Now it is on Lacy to be real, real good. As good as Richardson so there is no drop off. Hopefully Lacy does not lay the ball on the ground alot. That is one thing about Ingram, he rarely fumbles

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Screw the Heisman...

he’s already got one….now, TR, on the other hand…..

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by SRGBama on Aug 31, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had a minor cut on his knee that was going to require a scab....we just decided to genetically engineer a scab that would grow faster hence the surgery ...fully recoverd by halftime

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm officially

volunteering body parts, should that become necessary.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

might? ....since were talkin repeat .....his stats had to be improved...I dont see it

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Granted, it makes the Heisman less likely . . .

. . . but he could still miss the first 2 games and improve on last year’s stats, if not for Trent in the backfield. Trent is the main reason why Ingram was not a favorite to win the Heisman this year.

by toofull on Aug 31, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great, just freakin great...

Well, at least now we will get to see if Lacy can be a key contributer and step into that 3rd role or if Goode is capable of being that guy (assuming he is healthy enough).

by Rolltizzle on Aug 31, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

For this week, this just means

Goode and Lacy will see action in the first quarter, instead of early in the second. It’s Week 2 that is the concern.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

there goes God evening the playing field again....first hightower ...now ingram.....remember how that worked out last year...rtr...

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Step back off the ledge guys

I know multiple people, who aren’t Mark Ingram, who have had knee scopes and have been fine within a week or two. Also, a relative of mine in the sports therapy field who “may or may not know” people close to this case assured my Ingram could easily be ready as soon as late next week. I expect the staff to use him based on necessity in the PSU game.

by grantsky07 on Aug 31, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

question...

and in general, not having to this with this specific case. outside of a procedure to examine the inside of the knee, what type of work on a specific injury would entail just two weeks or so of recovery?

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

From what I understand

Most situations like this are limited to light cartilage work, as mentioned above a perhaps light meniscus injury, or perhaps something as simple (as you mentioned) as an exploratory procedure. Knee’s are fragile, however, and who knows what the impact could be long-term. I am just stating the typical down-time for this type procedure and what to expect.

by grantsky07 on Aug 31, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you granttheskyisnotfalling07

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

the link provided by estes: http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/002972.htm

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

i just spent some time at a link estes provided with info on the procedure and cross checked all the listed “problems” with will carroll’s sports injury book and pretty much all of them suggest a lot longer period of recuperation. which suggest the operation was exploratory but didn’t find anything and his recovery will be from the procedure itself.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

whew...thats definately my hope

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've sent a note to carroll

asking for his input

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had a bone fragment removed a couple of months ago,

and some loose meniscus snipped away. I was walking the next day and pretty much completely fine within 2 weeks.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the best we can hope for.

The biggest hurdles he would have to overcome would be the normal inflammation (pain and swelling) associated with an exploratory laparoscopy. Pray for no structural damage.

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by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, meant arthroscopy.

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by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not an expert and I may not be right on this...

But I worked for a rehab doctor at Princeton for several years and now I work for an Internal Med doctor and we send patients to orthos for stuff all the time. The most common procedures done in arthroscopic knee surgery are: removal or repair of torn meniscal cartilage,reconstruction of a torn ACL, trimming of torn pieces of cartilage, removal of loose bone fragments or cartilage and removal of inflamed tissue. The obvious one it isn’t is a torn ACL. That would have been season ending and there would have no way to cover it up. I would imagine it is either removal of some torn cartilage or trimming the meniscus as well as just simply exploratory to make sure nothing was missed on MRI. I have seen patients up and walking in less than a week after having something minor like cartilage trimmed. And these patients were not in even 1/4 the shape that Mark is in. If he misses the Penn State game, it may be more of a precaution than he actually can’t play. I expect him to recover pretty quick. He will probably play with a soft sleeve on his knee for a while or maybe even from now on for stability, but that may be more of a precautionary measure more than a need…

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

according to carroll

cartilage tears would take six to twelve months.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kleph, the biggest thing to note is that

if they’re just removing things (loose bone or cartilage) then recovery time is minimal because you don’t have to wait for anything to regrow.

What you’re talking about may be where there’s a significant tear and they have to give time for the cartilage to regrow.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

RICE will handle that...

R = Rest
I = Ice
C = Compression
E = Elevation

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well yeah, but how much of that?

My doc said I could walk the next day, but I had to limit the amount I was up. I had to elevate and ice 24/7 (30 minutes on, 30 minutes off) for 4 days. Then icing 3 times per day after that.

After a week I was OK and without much swelling, but I wasn’t full strength. Obviously Mark is in better shape than me and will get better care than I got though, so hopefully recovery and conditioning will be better.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I imagine the swelling

will be kept under control with ice pretty well. And steriod injections can help with swelling as well.

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what she said..

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angrily.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

just got a reply from carroll
Cleaned it out — mostly focus on the meniscus. Check the bone, maybe.
It’s 2-4 weeks and much more on the low end.

also, not only is andrews ranked number one in caroll’s recent list of the ten best in the business, doctor, cain is his protegee and comes in at no. 8

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Andrews is the same guy

as the Tommy Johns surgery inventor, correct?

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't know about that

but he’s certainly the one that high profile athletes see whenever they have some kind of issue (brett favre, john smoltz, colt “would’ve beat’em” mccoy, etc etc)

Mark’s definitely in good hands.

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by atcrawford on Aug 31, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok.

Same guy I was thinking of. He definitely got the best of the best operating on him.

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

who did Drew Brees' surgery?

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by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

As far as I know he’s like the Jay-Z of the rap world. He’s the best. He’s smooth. He’s smooth as butter.

~ Kevin Smith, Lions running back, on surgeon Dr. James Andrews who performed his ACL reconstruction.

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by atcrawford on Aug 31, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dr. Frank Jobe invented it

but andrews is considered the master of the procedure these days.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh....so what you are saying is....

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

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by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, if ya wanted to see a "Wide Open Offense, complete with Passing", here's your chance!

My worst fear for Ingram has been realized. He is a guy that doesnt quit, no matter how many guys are on the pile. A few plays last year had a lump in my throat where he had gotten as much as he could out of the run, and was basically a pile of 5 or more bodies with more people running in and piling on til he fell over. I just knew some dickweed would come flying in from the side and hit him in the knee or break his damn leg indirectly before the whistle can be blown, especially on the goal line vs Florida. I just knew on one play one guy had his ankle at the bottom of the pile and the pile was headed the opposite direction, somehow his foot slipped out at the last second. I hope he learns once he has gotten all he can get, to go down or get out of bounds. Emmit Smith learned that quick in the pros, that your career can be over in the one play you are trying to get an extra yard, one bozo trying to make a name for himself will do something stupid, so just go down or get out of bounds.

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

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by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

That goes for Julio too, seems like the injurys pile up on him just like LSU's secondary....

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by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You just knew that was going to happen.......and it didnt!!!!!!!!!!!!

and it hasnt this is a minor situation and we and more importantly he will be fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"We should have known" Pete Carroll

by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Voice of Reason, be reasonable. He is a tuff, physical runner, and tuff runners and receivers..

get hurt. This is all a precaution, but he needs to take care of himself on the field. When you have 8 guys on your back, your not, by some miracle, gonna become the incredible Hulk and explode out of it in a fury of flying bodies….

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Voice of Reason, be reasonable.

LOL

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer blind optimism over reasonable pessimism....

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then you must not be the voice of...nevermind....

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You should have figured that out a long time ago my friend.

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mark will be back 100% by Arkansas....bank on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"We should have known" Pete Carroll

by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I was really worried...

but the abundance of exclamations had soothed me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mission Accomplished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

thanks for the giggle

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would totally agree.

It is PSU that worries me now. But I’m very glad we have SJS this week to get Lacy & Goode some carries etc.

AND…DO NOT LET TR RETURN KICKS!!! PLEASE!!!

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t you mean PS?

by Bumpjon on Aug 31, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried.

After all, this is the “Summer of Recovery” so we have that working for us.

by Bam-I-Am on Aug 31, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I just talked to my little birdy in Dr. Andrews office and he said that it was an exploratory surgery and that they found out that marks knee was made of adamantium.......

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

source?

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stan Lee

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Color me skeptical....a minor procedure on the knee would be "fluid" being drawn off it...

surgery is surgery. With rehab. On one of the most critcal parts of a RB….

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think there was a

QB last year or the year before in the NFL that had this done on a Monday and played that Sunday. Now that ain’t a RB, but this is not as big a deal as some of you think.

But PSU is a big deal and I don’t know if we will play Ingram then.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe...

You actually made me google adamantium.

by Bam-I-Am on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't believe

you had to google it…. : )

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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 31, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

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by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

My initial reaction

was to pray and fear the worst and hope for the best, I realized that we will be ok. Trust in The Process. We will be ok and so will Mark!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 11:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude, the over/under on this thread is OVER 200.

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I’m taking the over.

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Aug 31, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just shot my dog

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ok I didnt but I really wanted to make the meltdown thread..

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just broke my TV...

And I have to clean the mess on the carpet from the glass and blood before the girlfriend comes in.

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Look at that dude going all Dareus on that colt.

by CaliforniaTide on Aug 31, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean comes out of her coma from being hit with your tv.

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Online Information

Knee arthroscopy – Recovery

Alternative Names

Knee scope – arthroscopic lateral retinacular release; Synovectomy – knee; Patellar (knee) debridement; Meniscus repair; Lateral release; Knee surgery
After the Procedure:

After the surgery, you will have an ace bandage on your knee over the incision dressing. Most people go home the same day they have surgery. Your doctor will give you an exercise program to follow.
Outlook (Prognosis):

Whether or not you have a full recovery after knee arthroscopy depends on what type of problem was treated.

Problems such as a torn meniscus, broken cartilage, Baker’s cyst, and problems with the synovium are usually fixed easily. Many patients remain active after these surgeries.

Recovery from simple procedures is usually fast. You may need to use crutches for a while so that you do not put weight on your knee and to control pain. This will depend on what kind of surgery you had. Your doctor may also prescribe pain medicine.

by toofull on Aug 31, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank goodness for Dr. Andrews

Ingram’s knee should be good once fully recovered.

The only question is if he will be able to play against Penn State (pretty doubtful, but still within possibility).

He should be ready for Arkansas, and might get a chance to warm up against Duke.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Aug 31, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

well, this is the advantage of having andrews on the case

you can feel pretty confident in the diagnosis and recommendation for recovery.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Mother-Fluker! (sorry I can't remember who coined that)

I don’t check RBR for 1 hour and this stuff happens. I was just thinking that the uniform post was going to be the highlight of my day.
Now how the hell am I supposed to go brief our 3 Star General at 1300 with this hanging over my head like the Sword of Damacles.

by tc16cav on Aug 31, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I will stay logged-in during the briefing

or all hell may break loose while I’m gone.

by tc16cav on Aug 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never

turn RBR off. I leave my computer on at work specifically for RBR. I even signed up for Twitter just to keep in the loop…this is the ultimate source for any bamaniac. Yes, I just tried a new phrase and i doubt it will catch on.

Bamaniac from Trussville

by TrussBama on Aug 31, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are welcome

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You tell it to him straight....

You can’t sugar coat it. It’s there. You got to straighten up, and tell it to him like it is. Mark had knee surgery today. Tell him you will keep him apprised of any favorable reports. Unfortunately that is all you can say at this time.

by BobM2009 on Aug 31, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record...

For the record, my money is on a minor meniscus tear. I doubt he plays against Penn State, but should be 100% for Arkansas and Florida.

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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 31, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

This is a Bama thread.There is no reason. The sky is falling, cats and dogs living together...

its CHAOS…..Y2K all over again

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait...

nothing happened on Y2K.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry had to flag that as inappropriate

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"We should have known" Pete Carroll

by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never happened.

La la la la. Fingers are in ears.

Oh, and screw Tom Brady.

University of Tennessee : Where Schadenfreude Happens

by rco3 on Aug 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

given what will carroll and others are saying

“cleaning it out” seems to be the most likely scenario.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's easy to say..

… but what was cleaned out and as a result of what type of injury?

I imagine if it were your typical cleaning out procedure, where loose debris causes by years of play and punishment is removed, this would have been done something long before now. I’m thinking it was literally a minor injury suffered just yesterday.

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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 31, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem is that any type of work on a tear

would likely include a longer recovery (from what i’ve read. i certainly defer to others in this thread with more information). a couple people noted that mark had intermittent issues last year so it makes sense that an exploratory procedure was conducted and, while in there, they tidied up a bit. obviously, we’re just speculating since it’s highly doubtful coach saban is going to shed more light on the issue.

still, everyone seems to agree it’s likely he’ll be back in the lineup for arkansas.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly!

Saban hiimself said it wasn’t a big deal. Im not sure why everyone seems to be so upset? Injuries happen and this one seems to be no biggy..lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill guys and gals.

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cause we're overly OCD Bama fans when it comes to Mojo...

and we hate words like “surgery” and “missing games”….I wanted to see the first team offense in a game type situation

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

you will

besides one player….

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like I remember Mark having knee trouble several times last year......

Against Va Tech late in the game he wen’t down with what looked like a dislocation. Then the same thing against South Carolina etc…. I think it’s prolly something related to this constant happening. IMO

Hold my beer and watch this.

by silentboob on Aug 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes or his ankle in the NC. He's a tough guy for sure.

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by TideFanAtlanta on Aug 31, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certanily not something anyone wants to see...

I’d rather you have everyone at 100%, but just because he’s banged up doesn’t mean we’re celebrating, just so you know. Richardson is more than capable to handle the load. Here’s hoping Ingram is able to get back soon.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 31, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

sources?

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I for one am

completely SHOCKED that this thread has gotten SOOO many comments…I mean, Alabama fans are known for rational thinking and we never overreact to anything…(dodges the brick thrown at him)

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

No jokes about thrown bricks

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

no worries..

witnesses at the scene said no brick was thrown…it was just a rumor a co-worker started.

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if you are on Ghost Adventures...

my new favorite show – check this clip out about bricks…sorry to really get off the subject…but since we are all panicing a bit…

by TrussBama on Aug 31, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That show crack me up!

The way they yell “dude did you just hear that?!” and the weird expressions they get on their faces when they hear something is absolutely hilarious! Those guys actually live somewhere here in Las Vegas too.

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most Def.

It certainly makes you take a second look at things that go bump in the night. It could be all entertainment, but we laugh at the guys at how serious they are at their show. Season premier is Sept. 17th!!!

by TrussBama on Aug 31, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a response.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is not my beautiful house

this is not my beautiful wife

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

same as it ever was...

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by SRGBama on Aug 31, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was his reaction to BP.

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to put in a call to Tebow for a healing session

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 31, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

well.

we have enough from the SEC CG…

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by bammer on Aug 31, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

But if we use them now,

how will we bring Nick back from beyond when the time comes?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 31, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

*use

I understand hate. I'm a Alabama fan.

by Destindune on Aug 31, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know

Ingram was listed behind trent on the depth chart for KR…

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

most offenses dont have their #1 WR and HB returning kicks. and now, TR is a our #1….

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by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's okay

as I type this, Coach Cochran is spraying spittle all over Mark’s knee, shaming his knee cap into a record breaking recovery, with a flurry of profane, yet appropriate bombastic stream of consciousness inspiration. Also, depth, wonderful beautiful depth.

by mamaelephant on Aug 31, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions   3 recs

Update...

Just a heads-up, the original article has been updated to include a response from Will Carroll.

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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 31, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

When did Will Ferrell and Pete Carrol have a baby clone? I know where it happend.

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

obviously, we're hoping for a full recovery

but in my mind, we wont need Mark back until/unless TR or Lacy get hurt. If Mark winds up missing 4 games but does come back at full strength , then really this is more of an opportunity for Lacy and Goode than anything. It also should give us more incentive to test out our passing game on our first 3 cupcakes. (sorry, but after reading up on PSU’s continued qb struggles, as in: they still aint got a started today, i’m feeling very confident about that game)

so anyway, we’ll be fine. all is well. Mark will be back by the arkansas game.

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by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

and while i could give a rat's fart about the heisman

i’m very much concerned about mark’s draft stock. as such i’d like to see him come back in full health and put together a strong campaign and bolster interest in his services come april. he’s worked way too hard to not get paid for his considerable athletic talents.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

here here

its still very early on, but from what we know, Dr. Andrews diagnosed, and performed the surgery. and Dr Andrews thinks Mark will have a full recovery in a few weeks. As far as i’m concerned we should limit his carries anyway, this just means we’ll have to.

fingers crossed (and i think it’s a reasonable hope/expectation) that Mark only misses a few games and is healthy in October, November, December, and January…. as long as that happens, the Marks draft status should still be entirely up to him, and his on the field and at the combine performance…..

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

And because of that Saban won’t bring him back until he is 100%—I’d guess Arky.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

and keep in mind

the key to the psu game is more likely how well our young secondary matches up to the nittany lion’s even less tested quarterback. and the magic eight ball says “definitely.”

a great running game would be nice but isn’t a prerequisite. if we just hold at “good” which richardson/lacy is more than enough to do, we still should be favored in that contest. so why bring mark back with any question whatsoever? hold him till arkansas when the rubber meets the road in the SEC.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course

penn state certainly doesn’t have to worry about their starting quarterback going down with an injury days before the opener.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

they have a starting qb?????? thought newsome was gonna get the nod tomorrow night?

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

click zee link, son.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

doh!

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by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

around sb nation

EDSBS weighs in

Black Shoe Diaries see hope

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

NOT TO CAUSE A PANIC...

but HAS ANYONE ELSE HEARD THAT TRENT RICHARDSON HAS A SEPARATED SHOULDER?
And besides that, Goode is hurt, so its all on Eddie Lacy….not need to panic. not gonna panic. its all good….either my “source” at Bama is pulling my leg, or he’s serious. He never kids. Can someone else verify that for me please. KTHANXBAI

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

nope

nada on twitter neither.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he's just banged up....

Hightower has been killin fools, I guess thats what happens when ya go 1 vs 1

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— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

dr. saturday

compares losing ingram to the sooner’s losing bradford last year.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

guess that means Trent has to grow a cho-mo stache?

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by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's wrong on so many levels

QB is not even close to comparable as a position
Trent has quality experience against quality opposition

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Christ, Kleph...

why’d ya have to mention Hinton…damn, now I’ll have to actually go over there and hold my breath to endure his waffling dogshit…lol!

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by SRGBama on Aug 31, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

team speed kills

seem skeptical about saban’s transparency

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

espn contributes their special stupidity

OMG! TWO DOCTORS! IT MUST BE TWICE AS BAD!!!!

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, so I missed the first ~150 posts.

But, honestly, Ingram is the one player I’m least scared of losing. Between Trent and Lacy, I think we’ll be fine.

by rugman11 on Aug 31, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn it...

I can’t leave this site for 6 hours without it all falling to shit!!

I bet the ones who said, “We lucky that we haven’t had any injuries.” Fuckin’ jinx……

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by skycaster on Aug 31, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Fly away buzzard, fly away crow......

way down south where the wind don’t blow, rub your nose give two winks leave us now you terrible jinx…….

Hold my beer and watch this.

by silentboob on Aug 31, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word I got from a doctor is that the scope is a minor procedure and he could be back for PSU with some soreness. Later he waits, less sore. Its that easy.

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by Fla Tide on Aug 31, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

which is roughly what the expert we contacted said

but i expect if there’s any concern over his condition, he’ll sit. and given the brutal run of sec games, i can live with him on the sideline for penn state.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed...

and Penn St. has always had a good run-stopping defense. It’s time to go to the air.

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by skycaster on Aug 31, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

or at least keep them committed to the run

which richardson/lacy is more than good enough to do.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch

Hope this works out for Ingram. Hate to see anyone bang up a knee, especially Ingram who seems like an all around good guy.

On the bright side, you’ve still got Richardson, who’ll prob end up being a bigger bad ass than Ingram. Best of luck on the recovery.

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by GumptownTiger on Aug 31, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I took this picture during thier final scrimmage...

I wonder if it’s related… although it could have been cramps, it was extremely hot that day.

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by skycaster on Aug 31, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

damn aj has a nice ass

oops – sorry – looks like cramps to me

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Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mean - looks like cramps to me

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

it looks like ice

and that’s applied to everything you can consider from “discomfort” to “third degree burn” to “compound leg fracture.”

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

You can’t really assume anything from that picture, because the pants have a lot of built-in lift and support.

by krnxprs on Aug 31, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he must work out

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for the Dumb and Dumber reference....

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then number 61

must have taken his built-in lift out because he is as flat as a pancake!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD

INGRAM HAS A COMPOUND LEG FRACTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ingram Status Update, brought to you by the ESPN Coalition of...

“We Think Trent Richardson May Be Better Than Mark Ingram Drinking Game”
Remember kids, if your gonna watch ESPN while Mark Ingram is hurt, get ready for the most painful drinking game of all, because we are gonna say the phrase
“Trent Richardson could be better than Mark Ingram” about 10 times a 2 minute segment.
Update: Mark Ingram had to have his leg removed from the knee down, due to a bad staph infection. Nick Saban says this will only set him back about 3 weeks, due to the special leg being built by Cyberdyne Industries. The only problem they foresee is while in practice, the sheer force of getting hit in the shoulder pads by Dont’a Hightower seems to knock it clean off. More test are needed. Mark Ingram may be the only one legged repeat Heisman winner in the history of the NCAA, if Trent Richardson, who may be better than Mark Ingram, doesnt win it first…film at 11……

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only problem they foresee is while in practice, the sheer force of getting hit in the shoulder pads by Dont’a Hightower seems to knock it clean off.

Well, that and the concern that his leg might become self-aware and take over the world.

by CarrotTop4 on Sep 1, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

to margaritas

"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum

by GumptownTiger on Aug 31, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

and that’s applied to everything you can consider from "discomfort" to "third degree burn" to "compound leg fracture."

That’s funny. When I played HS ball, our “doctor” used ice for EVERYTHING too. Bruises, scrapes, broken legs, broken hearts, headaches, running out of gas, homework, and bubonic plague.

"I have tried to teach them to show class, to have pride, and to display character. I think football, winning games, takes care of itself if you do that." -Paul W. Bryant

by JokerBama on Aug 31, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG

I was thinking the same thing! We should be ashamed of ourselves, but we do have eyes after all!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

i did feel shame

but i’m over it now

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

No denying something that is staring you right in the face!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i tried to tell my wife the same thing

2 weeks ago when we were staying in vegas. not my fault they have topless pools…

The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage

by tempebamafan on Aug 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets meet at that pool!

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"We are certainly not worried about Alabama until we play them" Urban Meyer
"We should have known" Pete Carroll

by The Voice of Reason on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep it comin' Ladies...

it’s nice to hear from someone other than a bunch of hardtails!!

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Aug 31, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummmm, wrong leg.

I haven't seen a beatin' like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose!

by CousinEddie on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

now i'm definitely not going to get any more work done

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Aug 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Work? we cant work in these conditions...the whole state of Alabama right now...

is officially shut down….looks like this week of tailgating is gonna start early, because we cant talk football and Alabama’s running game sober.

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't really worked

since last Monday. I spend way too much time on here!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto

I haven't seen a beatin' like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose!

by CousinEddie on Aug 31, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Knee Surgery

I had arthroscopic knee surgery to repair some torn cartledge back in December. I was up walking around with very few problems within a few days.

I was told by the doctor when asking about recovery time that it was completely up to me. I laid in bed and on the couch for 2 days watching football (SEC Championship) and playing video games (a good excuse not to do work). After I used up the surgery excuse, I had to go back to the real world and do house work, help with the baby, work, church, etc.

8 days after the surgery, I went and played disc golf (obviously not football, but still) and my knee had no adverse affects. The disc golf game involved walking up and down hills, twisting/pivoting of the knee. There are some arthroscopic surgeries that can take much longer to recover from. But based on what Saban and the doctors are saying, it sounds similar to what I had done.

If I projected my injury onto my 10 years ago college soccer playing days, I’d probably have been doing some light running 4 – 5 days after the surgery and increasing that to practicing 10 – 11 days after the surgery.

MI seems to have had his surgery Tuesday morning. He will be on the sidelines for the SJSU game with no crutches (but no pads) walking around supporting the team. Assuming nothing goes south, I would expect him to be available against Penn St but to not see the field.

I think he will be fine and having gone through the same thing less than a year ago. He is also healthier and younger than I am.

by The keeper on Aug 31, 2010 1:57 PM CDT reply actions  

So why did you have knee surgery?

I had arthroscopy about 15 years ago and my knee still bothers me. I had someone spear my knee and dislocate my knee cap while playing fullback. The dislodged patella, tore a piece of my meniscus and broke a small piece of my femur off. Needless to say, my knee has not been the same since. I don’t think this is the case with Ingram rather I would guess its probably just a torn meniscus (which can in itself be devastating).

I am sure Ingram will be fine. I just hope this does not affect his confidence in the knee.

by lbdasdog on Aug 31, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was a micro-second...

between reading the words “season” and “opener” when my head almost exploded. My blood pressure would much have preferred the term “first game.”

At any rate, I’m looking forward to the extra jolt that being the starter will give TR. As if he needed any additional fire.

by TiderInTN on Aug 31, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

honestly

having lacy get in the backup reps can only help down the line.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

Getting him some quality reps could be huge later on down the line.

by TiderInTN on Aug 31, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm telling you, Lacy will be your starter....hide and watch...

rumor has started, the Lacy MAY BE BETTER THAN RICHARDSON

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You have GOT to stop

watching ESPN! They are poisoning your thoughts!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

TR would win the Heisman,

if he wasn’t having to split carries with Lacy!!!!1

by CarrotTop4 on Sep 1, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The spread dropped on news of Ingram's injury...

Now it is at -37.5 ….

Unity begins with the understanding that everyone is different and to accept them as such. - Confucius

by skycaster on Aug 31, 2010 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Let it drop

we’re gonna cover that sucker yet.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 31, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank goodness...

…i was afraid I’d lose that game in the pick ’em because i refuse to not pick Alabama.

by Queen of the Universe on Aug 31, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

^This^

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course that's why Vegas LOVES...

…Bama fans.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m picking Bama in every pick’em that I’m in. I’m just sayin…

"I have tried to teach them to show class, to have pride, and to display character. I think football, winning games, takes care of itself if you do that." -Paul W. Bryant

by JokerBama on Aug 31, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

vegas doesn't love me

I’m not giving them any money

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lemak...

who was a partner of Andrews, just said on JOX he didn’t think it was a meniscul tear and recovery should be rather quick.

"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"

by thecalicocat on Aug 31, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Question

I hate to change the subject here, but I have heard no meaningful news on Dareus yet, any reports?

by nashvillebama on Aug 31, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Don’t you think if there had been any reports, they’d have been posted?

I'm wrong all the time.

by PeteHoliday on Aug 31, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

That’s about all I can say.

by nashvillebama on Aug 31, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope it is true...

because karma can be a real bitch and I can’t think of any school (aside from UcheaT or LSWho) that I would love to see get bitten by karma this year!!

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you read that link too fast....

it looks like ….auburnalabama.orgasmToomersfault

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

I just saw Chizik queef!

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Aug 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

8-31-2010...Never Forget!

This thread…will live….in infamy…..forever…..because….for about 5 mins…..I forgot…..that we had….Trent Richardson…..and Eddie Lacy…..and Demetrius Goode….
Trent, if you hadnt heard, may be better than Ingram…..Lacy may be better than Trent…..Goode may be better than all of them plus Shaun Alexander and Bobby Humphrey combined…..(the ellipses are for the “echo” effect)

THE EDGE– there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.

— Hunter S. Thompson

by mrpelicanpants on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Cain scoped my shoulder and I was quite pleased with the results.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Aug 31, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

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