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Random Thoughts on the Ingram Fallout

Opportunity.

For better or for worse, the knee injury to Mark Ingram has happened and until he returns the emphasis must shift to doing what needs to be done in the interim to keep the offense running at a high level. A few random thoughts as we move forward:

First and foremost, as controversial as this may be to some, it should be noted that, of all of our star players, we could probably afford an injury to Ingram more than anyone else. We are very deep at tailback, we are strong at the line of scrimmage, and in any event even a healthy Ingram would have split carries almost evenly with Trent Richardson. By comparison, an injury like this to, say, Mark Barron, would be almost unbearable. Had this happened to Barron, an undersized walk-on would be pushed into a starting role; with Ingram, we just plug in one of the best backs in college football, supplement him with two seemingly promising back-ups who could probably start at some other SEC schools, and then move on. This is disheartening and disappointing, of course, but ultimately manageable.

Moreover, again, don't underestimate the offensive line. I don't care who you have running the football, ultimately the run game itself is established in the trenches at the point of attack, and in that regard we easily have one of the best offensive lines in the country. Elite tailbacks can make the rushing attack even more productive, of course, but if you've got an elite offensive line you can make average tailbacks look like stars on short notice. And with that established, given what we have up front, we ought to have a very productive running game regardless of who is at tailback, whether it be Mark Ingram or Demetrius Goode.

The real concern now is not the health of Ingram, but the collective health of the triumvirate of Richardson, Lacy, and Goode. If you will recall correctly, Richardson suffered a shoulder injury in the second scrimmage, and at this point we can only hope that he can stay healthy until Ingram returns. Likewise, Demetrius Goode has fought some nagging injuries throughout camp. Losing one player like Ingram is, to reiterate, manageable, but if Richardson goes down too we're going to see some legitimate drop-off. We've got to keep Richardson healthy, no two ways about it.

How to keep Richardson healthy? I have no clue if the coaching staff will do either one of these two things, but it does seem like a relatively easy fix to me: (1) get him out of the game as soon as possible against San Jose State, and (2) put someone else back at kick returner. The return game constitutes the most dangerous plays in all of football, and while I don't know who we would replace him with -- Ingram was the #3 kick returner in the rotation -- having Richardson return kicks is just begging for disaster, especially in a game where the outcome is effectively determined even now. We probably won't return more than one or two kick-offs against San Jose State, but even so there's no reason to risk it. And, frankly, while I'm sure he will play some on Saturday, I hope we get him out of the game as quickly as possible, and quite honestly I wouldn't be the least bit disappointed if he watched the entire game from the sidelines in a coaches' polo shirt. I'm sure the coaching staff won't go that far, but even so Lacy and Goode could use the quality reps, so expect Richardson to make fairly short work on Saturday evening.

And if you're Eddie Lacy and Demetrius Goode, well, this is your time to shine. Previously you were largely going to be spectators and consumers of mop-up duty carries, but now both of these guys will be called on to significantly contribute in meaningful situations. If nothing else, it's a golden opportunity for both players, and an unexpected one at that. The raw ability is there with both of them, and they've got the line in front of them needed to plow the road. To be overly blunt, they will be expected to play well, and they should play well. No excuses.

Likewise, Corey Grant may have just gotten a much bigger role as well. He could be a possible contributor in the return game, and he now likely becomes the emergency fourth tailback in the event that further injuries arise (well, at least from the perspective of a true tailback). Prior to the Ingram injury he was likely headed for a redshirt season, but that is not a given now. I'm sure the coaching staff will work to preserve his redshirt status if possible, but he may be called on to contribute now. Mike Marrow may also be called in to work in a pinch, as he sees time in the backfield at fullback when we choose to use one in short-yardage situations. He could easily absorb the mop-up duty carries against San Jose State at tailback if the coaching staff wants to keep the redshirt on Grant.

Finally, the real test here will be Penn State on next Saturday, but even so I would urge restraint in light of this injury. Again, barring further injuries at tailback, we should still be able to run the football effectively. The real questions surrounding our team -- complacency after a championship, our ability to consistently throw the football downfield, special teams, the performance of the defensive backfield, all the personnel turnover on defense, etc. -- really don't have anything to do with Mark Ingram, and if we legitimately have on-field struggles in the absence of Ingram then the truth of the matter is that we probably have some underlying shortcomings that likely won't be corrected with the return of Ingram in a few weeks. Admittedly the notion of potentially facing Penn State without Ingram and Marcell Dareus is unnerving, but in the end I still don't think that changes the final analysis of things. We should still win that game, Ingram and Dareus or no, and if not we're likely in for a longer season than many expect.

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We should still win that game, Ingram and Dareus or no, and if not we’re likely in for a longer season than many expect.

Why did you have to add that last sentence in there?!? I’m always ok about the team before the season starts until game week arrives. I start getting weak in the knees and sick to my stomach. 2008 and 2009 turned out excellent so I don’t know why I always worry, but I do. I was a little worried about Clemson in ‘08 and then about Julio and Ingram’s eligibity last year and now Dareus and Ingram in ’10.

Hopefully all my worries will be put to rest after the first big game or two (PSU and Arky).
Here’s hoping for another great season. Roll Tide!

by RammerJammer23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, and...

I don’t know the reasoning, but every since Saban recruited Eddie Lacy I’ve been a fan. He didn’t play last year and I’ve only seen him play at A-Day, but he’s been a guy I’ve really wanted to see. Hopefully he’ll step up in that 2nd RB spot while Ingram is recovering.

by RammerJammer23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

He should do well...

Lacy should do well, he was an elite recruit despite the fact that most didn’t think he could qualify, which really ought to tell you something. He’s got a legitimate NFL body, so the potential is there.

We’ll see how it turns out, but he’s a great physical talent who will be running behind a very, very good line. Maybe he struggles for whatever reason, but if he comes out and lights up defenses, it should come as a surprise to absolutely no one.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Aug 31, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was strange...

for some reason Eddie Lacy and Kenny Bell were walking out of BDS along the sidewalk (instead of taking the team bus) last year and Eddie Lacy did look pretty massive.

by RammerJammer23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as he can keep the ball in his hands

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct me if Im wrong.

Maybe I misunderstood, but from what I heard from CNS is that he would only miss the San Diego State game. So why is everybody freaking out?? Is there something I missed besides having his knee scoped.

Another thought, with the potential lock out after this NFL season, what does that do to the NFL draft. Would this in turn cause all of our outstanding juniors to return for the senior seasons. As a fan of college football, not the NFL, I am keeping my fingers crossed for a lock out next season. Anybody have any thoughts on that?

by footballlegends on Aug 31, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

saban said he would miss the san jose state game

and be week to week after that.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with your analysis.

I sure hope TR does not field kicks. I think we will pull him early Sat.

And, I’m really concerned about PSU now. Their O is not that good, but their D is solid. If they can stop our run, make it a defensive slug fest then a lot comes down to the kicking game. That worries me.

I agree our O-line is very good. Perhaps the best since Saban has arrived. They need to make Eddie Lacy a star.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Dareus

Speaking of Dareus, what’s the latest?

by nashvillebama on Aug 31, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Nothing new...

… but we did found out some things on Weslye Saunders, as I mentioned in the fanposts.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Aug 31, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't really say where or who but...

a friend of mine spoke to an extremely close source to Marcell who said that he wasn’t going to miss any games because of the trip. Take that for what it’s worth. Hopefully that will be the case.

by RammerJammer23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks but

that’s speculation at best. Marcel himself doesn’t even know that for sure.

by CarrotTop4 on Sep 1, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not directly related to this topic

But is anyone else getting a popup every minute-and-a-half or so asking them to log in to twitter? It’s been happening to me on this site all day long.

by zeke2029 on Aug 31, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Stay classy Auburn.

by HAMsmith on Aug 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Asking Auburn

to stay classy implies that they were at some point. Which we all know is not the case…

by BamaGirlinDallas on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Traffic cams prove to be...

……good for something, eh?

……My condolences on the Ingram injury. We Tigers love to beat Bama on the field, but we DO NOT wish injury on anyone. I hope that Ingram is healthy by Iron Bowl time.

……The real concern seems to be the Penn State game. I hope y’all beat Penn State’s…. Usher Joe Pa out in style.

by Acid Reign on Aug 31, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

i apologize for propagating this one.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You said...

……“If,” and you would have been right. It would have been massively stupid and crass!

……Kudos for interesting posts over the past couple of years. My dad was a Bama grad (1956) and I do enjoy the historical perspectives.

by Acid Reign on Aug 31, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

the qualifier doesn't abrogate responsibility.

thanks for the kudo, though. it is appreciated.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

what

is that big orange blob in the middle of the intersection?

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by LittleSis on Sep 1, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

We Tigers love to beat Bama on the field, but we DO NOT wish injury on anyone.

I guess Ryan Pugh is not a Tiger?

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Sep 1, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

interesting on corey grant

I’ve been intrigued by his potential as a return man since he committed.

by Chadrob15 on Aug 31, 2010 3:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

trent and mark

are aiming to dominate every play of every game. everything else will take care of itself.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello, saban!

I voted for Kleph and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

by BamaReturns07 on Aug 31, 2010 4:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Should hear on Dareus very soon

The NCAA is dropping eligibility rulings left and right this afternoon. I bet we know one way or the other by tomorrow.

by tide96 on Aug 31, 2010 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you are right

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 31, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard

Hunter from TN was ruled eligible and Masoli ineligible. Fingers crossed.

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Aug 31, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised about Masoli

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/aug/31/ncaa-rules-rebels-quarterback-masoli-ineligible-ol/

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about getting a fresh start, and he would have made Ole Miss games a lot more fun to watch throughout the season.

by krnxprs on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It simply wouldn't be right if there wasn't controversy at the beginning of the season.

This is to be expected. Mark will recover, Trent and Lacy will step up. Well be fine, this isn’t the Texas Longhorns were talking about here.

Hold my beer and watch this.

by silentboob on Aug 31, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Are you sure you're not talking about Penn State, aside from the one obvious difference?
The real questions surrounding our team — complacency after a championship, our ability to consistently throw the football downfield, special teams, the performance of the defensive backfield, all the personnel turnover on defense, etc.

I am pumped for this game. Pardon my french, but fuck San Jose State and Youngstown State.

I really hate to see Ingram go down, honestly I do. To be the best, you’ve got to beat the best, and Ingram makes this team the best it can be. But Ingram-less, this will still be a very tough battle for the PSU defense.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 31, 2010 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Indeed

I think a lot of people are writing Penn State off, but I can only hope our players are not among them.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I know anything about Saban and Paterno, its that the players will be prepared.

Whether or not the execute their respective game plans remains to be seen.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 31, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

It will be an entertaining game

I’m excited that I get to take my father-in-law to it. He loves the series.

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Aug 31, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Opportunity...

Is what defensive players are saying when Lacy holds the ball like that. High and tight, Lacy, high and tight. I have faith in The Process enough to know that PSU is toast. Our guys will be so fired up to hit a Lion in the mouth by that time… Hell, I might just go punch my brother-in-law (a NYC boy) in the mouth myself. I’m so ready for this season to start.

by Tider1701 on Aug 31, 2010 6:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I love ME, but this is a great point:
I don’t care who you have running the football, ultimately the run game itself is established in the trenches at the point of attack, and in that regard we easily have one of the best offensive lines in the country. Elite tailbacks can make the rushing attack even more productive, of course, but if you’ve got an elite offensive line you can make average tailbacks look like stars on short notice.

Shoot… I could run for 75 yards a game at tailback.

And I’m pumped to see some other guys get meaningful snaps. Mark will be ready to go whenever he makes it back.

"I'm no miracle man. I guarantee nothing but hard work." --Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant

by BearKnuckles on Aug 31, 2010 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmm....

one big plus of all this. the talking heads are gonna be so riveted with this storyline next week that our defensive guys won’t be bothered with distractions as they get ready for penn state.

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by kleph on Aug 31, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

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