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With the first full day of practice out of the way, plenty of "narratives" are starting to take shape. As per usual, the veterans worked out yesterday morning and the n00bs took to the practice field last night, with one very awesome exception. Dequan Menzie worked with the first group in the afternoon practice and considering even Julio Jones and Terrence Cody didn't practice until the evening during their first fall camp...well, either the coaches know he's good enough to start right away or are really just desperate for bodies. DeMarcus Milliner was working with the young guys in the evening despite having been through spring camp, so for right now the top four corners duking it out for playing time are Menzie, B.J. Scott, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Phelon Jones. They're short on experience, but that's still a pretty solid group to sink or swim with.

Moving over to Safety, Blake Sims was finally cleared and shocking no one began working last night with the DBs. Mark Barron and Robert Lester were the only two scholarship safeties working in the afternoon yesterday, with Sims, Kendall Kelly (who appears to be a full time DB now), Jarrick Williams and Nick Perry working at night. We'll just have to keep an eye out for which of those four are getting looks with Barron and Lester over the coming weeks.

On to the links:

Alabama #1 in the Preseason Coaches Poll | USA Today

Inevitable, certainly, though I'm sure Saban isn't happy about it, but its the rest of the poll that's of interest here. Ohio State at #2 shouldn't shock anyone, but Florida at #3 after losing so much of their team seems way too high and Georgia even being ranked at all with a first time starter at QB and a brand new defensive scheme is kind of silly. And poor Boise returns just about everyone from an undefeated team and still can't get past #5.

William Vlachos back in action | Birmingham News

You know how Vlachos sat the spring with a foot injury? Turns out he played half the season with a broken foot:

"The ball of my foot behind my big toe, which is called your sesamoid bone, first it just formed a tendonitis-type of deal, but as I kept practicing on it and playing on it, it finally split into three pieces, so they had to do what they call a bone graft," he said.

 

"It took awhile to heal. I was on crutches for six weeks and in a boot for six weeks after. It was painful. The first X-ray we took was in Lexington, Ky., after the Kentucky game. It was fine. I guess it was after Ole Miss the break finally happened. You can live with it for a while, but I'm looking forward to not having any problems with it."

You are not tough.

Tide's Luther Davis carrying 'a different attitude' as a family man | Mobile Press Register

As if being a football player at a major college program wasn't hard enough, try juggling twins (not literally, of course).  DE Luther Davis became a father shortly before last year's season opener, and is doing just that:

"I haven't even been to a team party since my sophomore year," Davis said. "So that life is long gone. ... I'd say I'm just more mentally focused. A lot's changed in my life that has made me a better person, a more God-fearing person and a better student of the game."

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Gators open fall practice with Alabama on mind | Associated Press

Considering we spent a whole year preparing for a rematch last year, I wouldn't expect any less out of Florida.

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UA coaches above average with APR rankings | TideSports.com

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Coaches Poll

I keep hearing people talk about South Carolina being a darkhorse in the East and then Ole Miss still gets more votes than them. I guess that’s Masoli Power for you.

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by Nico2.0 on Aug 6, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Bama vs. Texas
Gators open fall practice with Alabama on mind | Associated Press

Considering we spent a whole year preparing for a rematch last year, I wouldn’t expect any less out of Florida.

I remember before the BCSCG all the Texas fans kept saying stuff like “We’ve got this one in the bag because Alabama’s done nothing but prepare to beat Florida wheras we’ve been focused on winning a national title.” Oh well.

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by Nico2.0 on Aug 6, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe Texas...

…should have spent a year developing a running threat not named Colt McCoy. Just saying.

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by Todd on Aug 6, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

Maybe Texas...

should have spent a year developing a way to stop a good running game. While padding stats against a pass-happy big 12. Just saying.

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by BamaReturns07 on Aug 6, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Considering we spent a whole year preparing for a rematch last year, I wouldn’t expect any less out of Florida.

I wonder how much of this so-called “chip on their shoulder” mentality really exists considering virtually no starters from last year’s SEC CG is still on the team. Coaches? Yeah, but the players? I think it’s being exaggerated.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 6, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

*are still on the team.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 6, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Media hype, for the most part, I say.

AS IF Alabama vs. Florida 2010 needed more build up.

by Jeff Jones on Aug 6, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

True, but

I can promise you the motivation from the UF side will be very high. For the first time in a long, long time we may actually have more raw talent than the Gators. That knowledge will only make them work harder. UF game will be a war. Glad it is in T-town.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 6, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad

William Vlachos is healthy….he is a beast on our offensive line. I remember in the SEC Championship Vlachos knocked the shit out of Brandon Spikes on a block. He’s shorter than the rest of our line but he’s a tough SOB.

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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Aug 6, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I remember that same block.

And it was awesome. Other than scaring the crap out of me with a few low snaps in the VaTech game, Vlachos was solid as a rock. Great to hear he’s healthy again.

by Darby Up The Middle on Aug 6, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember a post after the SEC CG

that read:
If Spikes wakes pregnant today it is Vlachos’s kid because he was in his ass all night.

Still makes me laugh

Auburn fans are like slinkys... not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

by IHC800 on Aug 6, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love the quote from Davis.

Sounds like he’s getting his head on straight after a good deal of drama early in his recruitment/career. I don’t even want to think about trying to go to school, play football at Bama AND raise twin babies. I’d lose my mind. No doubt about it.

by sixfoot7 on Aug 6, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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Have you seen this: LSU Uses Alabama Logo on T-shirts

Where can I buy one of these?

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by SaturdayDownSouth on Aug 6, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL yeah,

Spikes got owned all night by a variety of our guys that night….Ingram, in particular. Every time he tried to initiate contact with anyone, he got rolled, or pancaked, and in one instance, nearly stared into another dimension after trying to stop Ingram near the goalline. UF will be tough this year, but I have no doubt that they are not as physically prepared as we will be. After watching the practice vids and seeing some of the upperclassmen, it proves Scott Cochran is a mastermind when it comes to physically preparing athletes. What a stark contrast to 6 years ago, eh?

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Aug 6, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Saban and Franchione are the only

Bama coaches in recent times who understand the importance of the weight room and conditioning. DuBose tried to use conditioning practices similar to what Bryant had done and Shula was really lax. Stallings wasn’t that big either, but Lebaron Carruther’s had that old school Soviet weight-lifting mentality that was the shit. I think DuBose got rid of him because he and Coach Rouzie wanted to go back to the Bryant-type stuff. Problem was, Bryant’s stuff was designed for smaller guys (watch a Bryant game and look at the players’ individual weight if you think I’m wrong) and it wasn’t as up-to-date as the stuff teams like Nebraska, Ohio State, Florida State and Tennessee had implemented in the 90’s. Once people learned the effectiveness of a 400 pound bench press and 500 pound squat, that became the goal. Saban gets it; Fran got it also.

The best Alabama teams in the modern era have many 400+ pound bench pressers (and they’re agile too, I say that before some bonehead comes at me like, “You have to be able to move too…they don’t put a bench on the 50 yard line”…yes, obviously, dude, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOTH if you want to be physical. Fact is, when Saban took over we only had one 400 pound bench presser. Now most of the players can do it. That’s the key.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

and some would

say Julio is one of those guys who can put up 400+. I am still calling shenanigans on that one. But you can tell by the size, physicality and lack of injuries that our guys are well conditioned.

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Julio probably can

He does have long arms, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get it. The Line guys are always the ones who should be able to get it. If you have skill guys, especially wide receivers and DBs, who can get it, it makes your team that much better.

But I think Julio probably can get it. One way to find out will be next year at the Combine. If he reps 225 between 22 and 25 times we should know.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am, in fact, tough

Walked 10+ miles on Sunday at the Open in Pebble on a broken sesamoid. It’s do-able, it wasn’t even that painful, but the problem is that the more stress you put on it, the longer it’s gonna take to heal.

by glen55 on Aug 6, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I like that, glen55

Toughness is purely a state of mind. As humans we are all capable of enduring tremendous pain if we can learn to control it with our mind. That is to say, if you can do as you did on Sunday and treat the pain in your foot as only a thought, it’s bearable. But it takes intense mental discipline. Similar strategies are used by CIA and FBI agents when they’re going through torture training.

I’ve had the opportunity to practice this sort of thing before and it works. I cut a wart off my hand and singed the open wound with an open flame. The pain was bad, but I got myself in a good frame of mind & I was able to ignore the pain by outthinking it. I had a compound dislocation another time and I had to brace myself while the doctor tried to pull the bone back through the skin into place. I didn’t have any pain killers in me, so I had to really prepare myself mentally.
But it works. The mind can control our reaction to pain.

I saw the same thing with some of my relatives in the military. They’d train in 0 degree weather in shorts and a wifebeater; they’d run in shoes that would chafe and cut their feet and then they’d run again a little while later on the blisters and scabs to reopen the wounds. Their attitude was that if they could eliminate the presence of pain they would be less vulnerable to their enemies.

What you did will make you stronger. I’m a firm believer.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had an

alligator nibble on my testicles once… Pain is weakness I told myself…

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then I was all

“damn alligator, your gay!”

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying

You never know when you’re going to have to fight through tremendous pain. I’m not trying to convince you to pull a DeNiro and burn yourself over the stove or do the Marine or Navy SEAL stuff or act like Happy Gilmore in the batting cage, but you can raise your pain tolerance. That’s what Vlachos and others have done.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you are referring to mean streets

that was harvey keitel

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by kleph on Aug 6, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the part of Taxi Driver

in which Travis is talking about cutting out junk food and doing sit ups and push ups. He burns himself on the stove.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best

part of that movie is when he gets shot in the neck and turns and looks at that dude like “oh no you didn’t mother#######”

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

You talkin' to me?

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 8, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No I know exactly what you

are saying. I just did the Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim in three days. Which itself is not too bad, some people do it in one day. But I tweaked my knee on the first day (not use to using cramp-ons). So basically I limped the next thirty something miles until the last day. At which point I ran out of water and just said f-it. I got it in my mind that nothing was going to stop me from getting out of that damn canyon. That’s when I came upon the group riding the donkeys. I found myself up a mule-trains ass for the last couple of miles (not literally).

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It can be nutty and strangely new age, but you can control your mind and that’s what a lot of players do when injured. You and Kleph probably encounter this when running. I’ve never tried a marathon, but I’ve heard people tell me that the hardest thing for them was dealing with the pain. And that’s not just during the marathon. It was during their training to even get in condition to run the thing.

The same strategies can be used to control orgasm in sex. Both partners can have a divine experience if they can learn to prolong and control their bodies. Or if you have really annoying relatives this can work. I’ve sat through entire holiday meals with people I can’t stand by allowing my mind to slip away to a better place.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it bad

if your entire life is just one big exercise of what your talking about? Well, at least the offseason.

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

Nothing is bad if it makes you happy. As long as it’s legal and you’re not hurting anybody. Hell, even if it’s illegal it might not be bad as long as it’s done privately and safely.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

So said

Sid Vicious.

Do you think that is what Holly Berry was going through in Monsters Ball? The part when she’s doing Billy Bob “I wanna feel goood!”

by lbdasdog on Aug 6, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Halle

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 8, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every single day...

…I have to spend about 8 hours ignoring the fact that I hate with a stabbing passion one person I work with, so I can go with you on that one. As for walking around on a broken foot, much less playing offensive line, I am not tough.

Though I did walk around for three months with a piece of torn cartilage ripping at the ligaments in my knee and watching it swell to the size of a grapefruit, so maybe I am tough….

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by Todd on Aug 6, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

the football gods

will reward Bama for your pain. you’ve done well.

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by Bamagrad on Aug 6, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

My knees are so screwy...

….they ought to get us at least four or five more MNCs. The hell of it is, I didn’t even do anything fun to get them that way, its just my mother’s side of the family is so screwed up joint wise that I never stood a chance. She’s had hip replacement surgery back when I was in high school, and just had knee replacement surgery a couple of months ago, and has had various other minor surgeries as well. One of my brother’s is going to have to have hip replacement surgery, and various aunts and uncles and cousins on that side have had the same issues. I’ve had two surgeries on my left knee (one to fix the torn cartilage problem mentioned above and the other to fix the ligaments and remove scar tissue) and have already been told my right knee will pretty much befall the same fate since my knee caps are apparently “crooked” (medical term) and act like a tire that’s out of alignment. Every step I take they are pulling out and putting a strain on the ligaments while also fucking up the cartilage. How awesome is that?!

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by Todd on Aug 6, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

all i know...

is if we ever go down a staircase at the same time… you get to go first.

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by kleph on Aug 6, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That...

…is a wise decision.

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by Todd on Aug 6, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm tough

I was married to a loudmouth obnoxious Auburn fan for 3 years — including 1993 — and didn’t kill the bitch. Now, THAT’S tough!

Dr. BamaFrazier is IN!

by BamaFrazier on Aug 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

BF

you are tough and no one would judge for killing a loud mouth Auburn bitch. I am pretty sure there is a loophole in the system for situations like that…

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