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Ron Higgins: Not so fast on Tide repeating l The Commercial Appeal

For anyone who thinks an inexperienced secondary and special teams is our greatest challenge this season, think again:

Saban has always prided himself on controlling everything and everybody around him. Because he figures when he can't do that, he has situations that turn into distractions that take away his team's focus.

With the season just under a month away, he's dealing with the recurring problem of agents getting to one of his best players, something he can't control.

And curiously, he allowed a company to film a documentary that will be released Sept. 10. The movie "Nick Saban, Gamechanger" opens Sept. 10 in Memphis at the Malco Paradiso. Saban plays himself.

Also on the first days of practice, Saban allowed ESPN all-access, including quarterback Greg McElroy wearing a camera on his helmet.

Oh yeah, and there's that statue of Saban outside Bryant-Denny Stadium that will finally be revealed once they get the hair right.

While Higgins has a point that the increased exposure a national title brings you puts more pressure on a team and its staff, if Nick Saban considered the documentary and ESPN crews a serious distraction do you think he would have let them set one foot on campus?  Me either.  But I am worried that he's losing sleep over the statue.  The hair has to be perfect.

Tide's roster recipe: one cup of Shula holdovers, one gallon of Saban stars, mix, stir, bake . . . behold | al.com

One of the more ludicrous knocks on Saban by rivals desperate to diminish all that he's accomplished since coming to Alabama is that "he won with Shula's players."  While it is certainly true that key members of the last two seasons have been Shula recruits, that completely ignores both the more than significant contributions of players that weren't only recruited by Saban, but players that would have never considered Alabama were it not for Saban, and also the fact that Saban got more out of Shula's players than Shula ever did.  When asked about the difference in the Shula and Saban years, Greg McElroy had this to say:

"The talent was there in my first year," he said. "It's just, was the mindset there? And it wasn't. That was the tough thing. We had a lot of negative leadership. We had a lot of guys not buying into what (Shula) had to say. It wasn't from a recruiting sense, though. He brought in a lot of good players." There is one key difference between now and then. "We have a lot more depth now," McElroy said.

As for the buying in part, as always Saban says it best:

"The personality of our team has basically come from players buying in, regardless of who brought them in," Saban said. "That has never been an issue."

Smart happy with decision to stay | TideSports.com

Another tidbit from yesterday's rare opportunity to hear from the coordinators:

"The University of Georgia has a special place in my heart," Smart said. "I spent five years there, coached there a year under Mark Richt, so I have an immense respect for him and the program. But I got a great opportunity here. Coach (Nick) Saban has been very good to me in the six years I've worked for him and I've learned a lot of football from Coach Saban."

It was no real shock that Smart chose to stay at Alabama instead of making a lateral move in his career last season, so I love the "I got a great opportunity here" line.  Saban has been very up front in his appreciation of the "head coach in waiting" concept, and even though the NCAA has tried to limit that with recruiting restrictions, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if one of his selling points in keeping Smart around was "stick with me and you'll be my successor here."

Tide coordinators quietly playing big roles - SI.com

And speaking of, I've said plenty of times that Kirby Smart has effectively become a Nick Saban clone and that's the biggest reason they have been so successful together, and now Smart is echoing that sentiment to SI:

"There's a lot of familiarity between coach Saban and I," Smart said. "He's very organized and very detailed. He understands I know those details and I demand those same details. We might be doing a practice schedule and I know where he's going and some of that goes unspoken. "We know how we want the drill done. He knows how he wants the drill done. I know how he wants the drills done. It's ultimately his soldiers', his staff's, job to get it done."

Star-divide

and etc.

Stadium market to allow public access year-round | TuscaloosaNews.com

University of Alabama administrators plan to use the area as a launchpad for stadium tours and tours of the campus given to prospective students and parents by admissions staff. Also, two eateries — Zoe’s Kitchen and Yogurt Lab — will set up shop this fall in the marketplace and be open year-round.

"The stadium won’t be unlocked or open, but it’ll be an area where people can come in and look inside," said Mal Moore, UA athletics director. "Mainly, it’s to be a service to people who come on campus and students who walk by it. It’s a perfect place to do it."

Bear Bryant Bests Peyton Manning | Chattanooga Times Free Press

In a side note that has to delight area Alabama fans, an art print of Bear Bryant signed by the late legendary coach fetched $1,500 at an auction following the dinner while an official UT game jersey autographed by Peyton Manning brought just $400, proving yet again that nobody beats the Bear in SEC country.

Vols take a hit at defensive tackle - SEC Blog

I don't pity the Vols one bit (Karma, etc.), but poor Dooley.  Dude is snake bit or something.

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interesting side note on dooley

rocky top talk has a post today examining his recent comments that the whole program needs to be “fourth-and-1 for the national championship every day.”

which, if i’m not mistaken, is almost identical to major applewhite’s description of working for saban (after he left to be running backs coach for the longhorns). if anyone can dig up the quote, i’d appreciate it.

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by kleph on Aug 9, 2010 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Y'all keep this up

and I’m going to be making my reservation in Arizona this week.

Damn good write up.

by Talabama on Aug 9, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Dooley...

Had been quoted over the weekend as saying, “We have more depth in our training staff than anywhere on this team.”

Pretty funny.

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Look at that dude going all Dareus on that colt.

by CaliforniaTide on Aug 9, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

waitaminit!

when did the hater’s switch from the “”http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2010/8/9/1611055/sec-2010-alabama-climbs-the" target="new">saban cheats through oversigning" meme to the “saban only won with shula’s players”? the anti-alabama bad logic gets so thick this time of year it can be tough keeping track of it all.

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by kleph on Aug 9, 2010 8:53 AM CDT reply actions  

No no no

It’s not cheating to oversign. It’s just that anyone who does it is the devil, especially Nick Satan (see what I did there? Clever!). The oversigning is just proof that he’s evil and hates his players. There are multiple reasons Bama didn’t deserve the championship, but in case you don’t buy them, have I also mentioned how they really shouldn’t have as many championships as the claim? Oh, that’s not true either? Well, uh, hey, how about all that money they spend on football! Shouldn’t their priorities be on education!?!?! Oh, it’s one of the few schools that makes money from its program?

Hmm.. well… uhh… oh I know!! They cheat! Yeah, that evil oversigning Saban is a cheater!

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by billycthulhu on Aug 9, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

he also reportedly is a "poopy pants"

this is an unconfirmed report however…

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by tempebamafan on Aug 9, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I

feel sorry for the person who is assigned the task of confirming it.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 10, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Higgins is an idiot

My understanding is that the documentary was filmed last year during the national championship run. It doesn’t appear that it posed too great a distraction.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 9, 2010 9:26 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

i'll bet you any amount of money you want to wager

that saban’s policy with this is that film crews have access in the off-season and fall practice… but come the season it’s only the in-house folks. the demand is there and he understands the importance of getting the exposure (not the least of which, for recruiting purposes) and has set it up for when it will be the least problematic for the team in terms of a distraction.

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by kleph on Aug 9, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Higgins is an idiot

You could have stopped there and we would understand completely what you were trying to say.

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 9, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saban has never been shy about doing documentaries and features for ESPN & Gameday because it increases exposure for the program and is a convenient way to grant controlled, favorable media access. This is part of what makes him a recruiting genius.

Lazy journalists like Mr. Higgins just prefer to stereotype him as opposing all media access so it’s no surprise that he would think the movie and ESPN All-Access is something uncharacteristic and a distraction.

"Don't let the bastards get you down." - Nick Faldo to Greg Norman at the conclusion of the 1996 Masters.

by Paranormal on Aug 9, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

All of this hate

geared towards Bama just means that Saban and Co. are doing the right things. As Bama fans we should be used to it. People love to hate Bama and now that the team is winning again it just means more hate all the time.

by sixfoot7 on Aug 9, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I don’t pity the Vols one bit (Karma, etc.), but poor Dooley. Dude is snake bit or something.

Im not sure Ive seen a team have as bad of an offseason as the Vols have had…and to that i say…

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! takes a breath BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA!!!!!

"You stay bought into it when you see your opponent sucking air and physically failing and you're still fit and ready and you know you own his ass."- Corey Reamer speaking about Coach Cochran

by bammer on Aug 9, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Shifting "story" lines --

Amen to these comments — Saban & Co. are clearly doing it right.

Clutter alert for the traditional meme coming at some point this season: the “But Saban is leaving at season’s end to become head coach for (Michigan – Miami – insert sports franchise here)…!”

by Jeff Jones on Aug 9, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I heard...

He was going to become the coach at the Lakers next week.

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Look at that dude going all Dareus on that colt.

by CaliforniaTide on Aug 9, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN's Maisel is saying

UNC’s Marvin Austin is in the clear and Dareus gets a slap on the wrist.

Im suspicious. Sone on the twatterwebs are saying since Austin is a Junior, he can speak with agents. Given Dareus is a Sophomore, he cant talk to agents.

Is that true?

by tbone57 on Aug 9, 2010 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope.

They can talk, but they can’t take so much as a Chuck E Cheese token w/out hellfire raining down.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 9, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gamechanger in Memphis?

I’ll be in the front row!
Saban knew this would be a huge recruiting medium,cause he don’t give a shit about promoting himself, aight?

by Crimsoncaller on Aug 9, 2010 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Winning with "Shula's players"

Is this a slight to Alabama? Not really—last time I checked, the Unanimous/Consensus National Champion last season was Alabama, and all the players on that team were with us from the beginning of the season (it’s not like baseball, where you can pick someone up at the trading deadline). Who cares who recruited them?

Is this a slight to Saban? Maybe, but does anyone with two brain cells to rub together really think that things are going to fall off as more of Saban’s recruits move to become Juniors and Seniors? Am I supposed to be yearning for the recruiting bounty of the Mike Shula era? Honestly, a lot of “his” players did become key contributors, but I’m willing to roll the dice and stick with Coach Saban, thanks. This type of delusion from our rivals is a great sign that they know that football will be a lot less fun for them in the coming years (if winning is fun for them).

Oh, and by the way, weren’t rival fans pointing to Coach Saban just 3 years ago and saying he’s evil for kicking players off the team just because he didn’t recruit them? Now he’s faulted for winning with the ones he didn’t get rid of? Sorry for all the questions in this post, but I’m confused as to what point people are trying to make here.

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by Trapper_John on Aug 9, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

The 2009 national championship team was a melting pot. Six defensive starters, four offensive starters, plus the kicker, punter and deep snapper were players inherited by coach Nick Saban when he arrived in 2007.

So what I take from this is that over half (i.e. the majority) of the starters were freshmen and sophomores that Saban recruited.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 10, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smart.

If Saban really is trying to work a deal that would have Kirby Smart take over for him when he retires I’d be really excited. I tell you this guy (Smart) is winner and he is tough.

However, unless Saban has only 2 or 3 more years I just can"t see Smart staying around. But…who knows what kind of secret deals have been made.

As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.

by 5026 on Aug 9, 2010 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

He may.

Mack Brown isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and it seems to be working for Texas. He could leave and be the HC at a middle-of-the-road school or stick around for 5-8 years and inherit a dynasty. No comparison.

Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.

by BamaHadMeAtHello on Aug 9, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even

if Smart leaves and has success as a HC somewhere else, I highly suspect he’ll be on the short list when Saban does retire. IMO, it doesn’t necessarily diminish the chances of Smart being Saban’s successor if he does leave.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Aug 10, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be bad for him to go out and

get some experience somewhere as a HC first.

Of course, if “somewhere” ends up being UGa, I doubt we’d get him back.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 10, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

And curiously, he allowed a company to film a documentary that will be released Sept. 10. The movie “Nick Saban, Gamechanger” opens Sept. 10 in Memphis at the Malco Paradiso. Saban plays himself.

ummm, yeah he’s “playing” himself. That’s how documentaries work.

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 25, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

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