What to Watch: Week 01 of the 2010 College Football Season
by Nico2.0 on Sep 1, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintFinally. It. Is. Here. The 2010 college football season starts tomorrow with a full slate of games...and if you're anything like me you'll be logged onto ESPN3.com at 5:30 p.m. to see Presbyterian and Wake Forest make the first plays of the most glorious sporting time of the year. Sure, it'll be complete crap, but why wait an hour for football to come on TV if you don't have to?
Just as in years past, we'll run down five non-Alabama games to watch every week that are interesting on a national or conference level. Considering many programs get their seasons started by beating up on high school teams, we're pretty fortunate to have four contests on opening weekend between ranked teams (though it's unfortunate two of them are basically at the same time.) Get your DVRs ready and be prepared to enjoy the next couple of months. This is what we've been waiting for since January 8th.
All times listed are central and rankings will be taken from the USA Today Poll until BCS rankings are released later in the season.
Everybody is saying "this is Boise's year." They return virtually the entire starting lineup of their undefeated 2009 squad and have a fine coach in Chris Petersen. They'll certainly get a test right off the bat in the form of Frank Beamer's Hokies. Virginia Tech has had ten win seasons eight times in the last decade, but they never seem to be able to mount a serious run at a national title and inevitably drop a game or two (or three or four) along the way (often early in the season.) Despite Top 10 rankings for both squads, whoever loses this game is out of the national picture talk for the rest of the year seeing as the WAC and ACC aren't going to put a one loss team in the championship game. The winner stays in the game, the loser might as well focus on their conference slate and try to bring home their regional hardware.
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Is anyone else
really pulling for VA Tech like it’s their home school??? I don’t think Boise is total garbage, I really don’t, but I can’t stand their weak ass schedule. It drives me crazy with all the media love, blah blah blah. Despite the fact that I really believe Boise could be a top tier Pac 10 school, I hope VA Tech kills them by thirty to shut the pundits up. Anyone with me? (and if I had to guess, Tech will win this game, but by 10 or so).
by JunctionCrimson on Sep 1, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
/raises hand
Some people say "If you can't beat them, join them". I say "If you can't beat them, beat them", because they will be expecting you to join them, so you will have the element of surprise.
by BamaHadMeAtHello on Sep 1, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
/wonders why everyone is using this symbol (/) at the start of their sentences
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 1, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
/typed indicia of nonverbal gestures?
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
good question..
there was a write up a while back about BSU’s lack of wins versus quality opponents in the regular season. It seems as though Petersen is a fine coach at getting his players ready to play big games (bowl games against BSC opponents), which is commendable. This feels like one of those games. Opening Saturday, everyone watching, etc. And to his credit, if they do, then I’d take them a little more seriously. However, the SEC (and the other two/three conferences) are so tough because of the week in week out grind. You have one week to prepare for Spurrier, Meyer, Richt, Miles (at least with talent), Gus, etc (Joker’s going to do well at UK). It’s insanity. I do not believe BSU is anywhere near that type of quality, but they get a pass due to their weak schedule and that sucks. If you had an off season (or several weeks via bowl games) to prepare for a team with decent talent you could certainly pull it off with decent talent and good X’s and O’s. But the college football season is just that, a season, and BSU doesn’t really partake of one in my humble opinion.
by JunctionCrimson on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
So you hate them because the other teams in their confernce suck? That makes sense.
Also, wouldn’t you rather have the media suck BSU off all season so we face them instead of Texas, OSU, OU, etc. in the BCSCG? While I’m all for good bowl games when Bama’s not in them, I’d take a bowl game (especially BCSCG) against a paper lion every time.
Eh...
that’s not so much the reason. I’m sure this breaks down somewhere, but it’s like this. Common goal – National Championship. The road to get there? Team A – brutal week in week out schedule, sustained over the course of 13 weeks or so. Team B – two/three teams max to take seriously, get past ‘em, we’re in. Apply this to business model. Guy works at grocery store, works hard, cleans the meat grinder for six months, promoted to assistant, starts to write schedules, delegates, etc., gets promoted again, continues to work hard, after a while, it’s his store. My heart is sympathetic to this plight. On the other hands, son begins to work at his father’s grocery store, in a matter of weeks he’s the store manager ‘cause of hookups outside of anyone’s control. Now the son MIGHT be just as knowledgeable and worthy of that position as the previous guy, and given that, I think I’m willing to admit it if that’s the case…but in BSU’s case, they’re the dumbass boss’s son that drives everyone crazy because he really doesn’t know what’s going on nor has he paid the proper dues to get that position.
by JunctionCrimson on Sep 1, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
But there's no guarantee that we'll be in the game.
I’m more concerned about the scenario where we have one or even two losses and we’re blocked out by an undefeated (and largely untested) BSU team. I want to see ALL of the other top teams lose, so that we have some margin for error. And that starts with BSU. If they win this game, it becomes twice as hard for us to repeat.
ya
we all know what Bama can do v.s. BCS busters
"You don't play against opponents. You play against the game..." - Bobby Knight
Here's another only slightly relevant photo for the discussion...
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 1, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair though . . . .
Was that any worse than what Alabama and Florida often do to Georgia?? Even at Georgia??
;-)
Wait......was that a Boise troll?
AWESOME!!!!!! That’s great……thanks for coming by…….somebody get him an RBR sippy cup and a booster seat so he can pull up to the big boy table….
by p3bhambama on Sep 1, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, after week one
Boise does not, in fact, play against any opponents.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I'm with you . . .
. . . when it comes to the ridiculous and cynical media love that BSU gets. For example, LA Times college football beat writer Chris Dufresne picked Boise St. to win it all. He is constantly writing about the unfairness of the BCS system, not out of any sense of justice but simply because it’s a hot, controversial topic that provides material for about 75% of his columns. So he cynically picks Boise St. to keep the controversy going for his column.
However, the current system works pretty well. BSU gets punished in the computer rankings for its schedule and many voters punish them as well. This means that it is highly unlikely that they would be able to pass a one-loss SEC team. They probably would get the nod over a two-loss SEC team, which seems about right to me if they go undefeated. So, I’ll support them if they get to that point but I cannot agree that they should be in the BCS CG just by virtue of being undefeated.
I don’t have a problem with that line of logic at all; in fact I kinda agree. But what bothers me is all the hate. Who cares if ESPN and a cadre of retard writers are all over BSU’s jock.
Also, what can BSU do? They beat everyone on their schedule more often than not and they try to schedule tougher OOC opponents but nobody wants anything to do with them.
I don't hate BSU . . .
. . . but I do hate the cynical media love because they are desperately trying to undermine a system (BCS) that is as fair as we are going to get at this point. So I hate any argument (from BSU supporters or media types) that claims that the current system is unfair for BSU. That’s just not true. As for what BSU can do, they can win all their games and hope that other teams lose. They helped themselves by beating TCU last year. Given current realities, that is the most they can do and it should be enough. Winning all of your games is no guarantee of being in a CG for anyone, just ask Auburn.
I don’t hate BSU . . .
The question wasn’t so much directed at you but more at the folks that want VT to destroy BSU. Unless you’re a VT fan or a BSU hater, I don’t get it. In fact, if we assumed that the winner of that game goes undefeated and plays in the BCSCG (which is a huge assumption), I’d rather it be BSU.
Well, I think your logic . . .
. . . is sound but the problem is that a BSU win just gives more fodder for the BCS naysayers. That’s why I’d like to see BSU lose. But if they win them all then they will be rewarded with another BCS bowl and possibly the CG if things fall right. And that’s the way it should be. Having said that, perhaps I should hope, like you, that we get a chance to beat them in the CG. Then, the BCS naysayers would have much less to complain about.
I’m pretty sure that everyone has picked a side on the BCS/playoff war (and personally I’m on the “let’s sttle it on the field” side) so I really don’t think that a BSU win really affects things that much. In fact, if it does have anny affect, it could turn out to be great for the BCS. After all if BSU goes to the BCSCG, then it takes a lot of the bite out of the “BCS is unfair” argument.
"Let's settle it on the field"
means that you should favor the BCS, though I’m sure you meant that you favor a playoff. That is a faulty logic. There is nothing about a playoff system that magically settles things on the field whereas the BCS does not. The BCS attempts to measure a teams worth by its work on the field in a full season. A playoff would simply shift that measure to the post-season, meanwhile undermining the beauty of college football, which is that every Saturday in the fall contains some mystery of the whole sport for each and every game.
by toofull on Sep 1, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well said.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 1, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah . . .
You don’t want to spoil a bunch of good saturdays with a stupid football game at the end of it all do you?
Let’s start a move to crown the SEC champion via poll, BCS style poll, and let’s do it now!
I mean, you fellers have argued my ears of with this outstanding logic of your’n, let’s get on this.
And while we’re at it, let’s eliminate bowl games since shit like that don’t matter neither, not when you have all them other saturdays to glory over . . .
What are you on about?
1) There is a football game at the end of it all. It’s called the BCS National Championship Game.
2) The SEC has 12 teams, each team playing 8. There are 118(?) FBS teams, leaving 106 teams that each team will not play. Ranking them solely by wins and losses at the end of the season (a la NFL) would have nothing to do with settling it on the field.
3) Are you suggesting a selection committee for a playoff system, a la NCAA basketball? They’ve selected 65 teams of late with much controversy ensuing. Imagine the controversy if you started selecting only 8 or 16 football teams. It would pale in comparison to the BCS controversy. A strength of schedule formula would still be needed to determine placement.
4) Bowl games are not as important as the season. All the great coaches of college football understood this. Bowl games were a reward for how you played in the season and an excuse to play another game and later, to make more money for the schools and television corps. If it were possible (and it clearly is not), it would be better for college football to eliminate all post-season play.
5) The logic only follows from your values. If you value fall Saturdays, logic won’t take you to a made-for-tv post-season playoff. If you value tv and sensational hype, then logic will take you to a post-season playoff. But don’t try to pass off the playoff argument as the only rational option.
i think it is actually
I hate that the Pac-10 is giving up the round robin format. To me, thet were the only BCS conference that had it right.
by Nico2.0 on Sep 2, 2010 8:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't hate them
But I want VT to destroy them. I can easily see a situation where Ohio State or Oklahoma goes undefeated, as does BSU, while Alabama has one loss to an SEC team. In said situation, I have a hard time seeing the voters take Bama, despite the clear disparity in schedules, over BSU. Ergo, Go Hokies.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
Past evidence would say otherwise
Teams with more difficult schedules tend to get higher rankings in the BCS standings. The computers all incorporate some form of strength of schedule and the voters, with the exception of some troublemakers, tend to rank higher those teams with more difficult schedules. The outcome of your scenario would depend heavily upon how Bama performs in its last 3 or 4 games. If we have poor performances against Georgia St., Auburn, and in the SEC CG, then that might allow BSU to sneak past with the voters, though not so much with the computers since they are not allowed to factor in margin of victory. It would be very difficult for an undefeated BSU to get past a 1-loss Bama team.
And, I can see the same situation but where VT is the other undefeated team and it’s a lot harder for a one-loss Bama to jump an undefeated VT.
VT has a much, much harder road to undefeated
Even if they win that first game.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
Right...
I’m not sure I understand your argument here. If Alabama loses a game, they’ll need probably a dozen teams to lose at least one game as well, to reach one of the two spots available in the NCG. If Boise wins at VT (and then, as most would assume, runs the table), the number of spots drops to one, because BSU will be guaranteed a spot. VT, likewise, would be guaranteed that spot if they went undefeated, but they are far more likely to drop a game to Miami or BoCo than Boise is to Nevada or Wyoming. Better to have to hope for only one undefeated team than none at all.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
BSU is not guaranteed a spot . . .
. . . even if everyone else has at least one loss. A one-loss Bama and a one-loss Ohio St. would be in before an undefeated BSU, given past BCS experience.
The computers repeatedly ranked undefeated BSU and TCU well below other 1-loss teams. So did most voters.
There's where we disagree
I think they are guaranteed a spot if they are the only undefeated team. TCU was ranked over Florida going into bowl games, and Boise State was very slightly under them. They are also starting in the top 5 this year, which means all they have to do to move to number one is keep winning when everyone else above them loses.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
No.
It depends on how it plays out. TCU was absolutely demolishing teams, some in the top 25 (BYU and Utah). If they had squeaked by those teams, they would not have been ahead of one-loss Florida. The computers had Florida ranked ahead of TCU. But TCU deserved their ranking because of the way they were playing.
The point is that an undefeated season guarantees nothing.
Guarantees nothing, granted
Makes it a hell of a lot more likely though.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
You just wrong. An undefeated BSU is not guaranteed anything. However, an undefeated VT almost certainly will be in the BCSCG. So, I think we’d rather see BSU win this. And, if it’s Bama & the BSU/VT winner in the BCSCG, I’d rather face BSU.
I think Bama can beat either team with a month off
So that doesn’t factor into it for me.
Please don’t condescend to me, man. I’m a reasonably intelligent guy; we just happen to disagree on a point here. I think that voter sympathy would put an undefeated Boise State in the NCG over a one-loss Bama. You don’t. The question, however, was “why all the Boise hate,” and I answered that, with what I feel is pretty good reasoning. Obviously, there’s no way of knowing what will happen until the season’s over. I just see it as much more likely that a win for BSU (almost guaranteeing them an undefeated season) is worse for the Tide than a win for VT (who would still have to go through 3 ranked teams plus decent BoCo and Central Michigan teams.)
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I apologize if I came across as condescending. I did not intend to sound like a douche. What I meant to say is that if history is our guide, there is no way that an undefeated BSU gets into the BCSCG in front of a one-loss Bama unless that one loss is in the SECCG.
The Internet makes everyone touchy.
Sorry on this end too.
You’re right with the precedent. Hopefully it will hold up, and cooler heads will prevail. I just worry that the general narrative will point toward Boise being in the big dance, and that the various people involved in voting will fall for that narrative.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
When do we get to see the make-up spooning?
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You missed it.
And it was epic.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
Voters are human though
And BSU has developed a wonderful story for itself. As much as I’d like to believe that voters would look past the media hype and see that one close loss to a top 25 team is more impressive than one win over a top 25 team, I think the Cinderella story would sway enough minds to put them over a one loss SEC team this year.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
The only acceptable...
…playoff formula to me is conference winners only. I don’t want someone who didn’t win their conference being national champion.
by Nico2.0 on Sep 2, 2010 8:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What if the conference champ
Is 9-4, and the runner-up is 12-1? (For example, if Texas hadn’t magically invented a second had lost last year.)
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
No way
No way in hell Boise State has teh same rank at the end of the season if you both go undefeated. No Way Aalabama is left outta that game. No way.
I agree.
The scenario was a one-loss Bama against an undefeated BSU, not two undefeated teams.
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
I don't know . . .
But, yes, it seems to be trending toward perfect record trumps SOS.
Although, I recall LSU getting the nod with 2 losses . . .
Part of that love though . . .
. . .is media mea culpa for not acknowledging the accomplishments by non BCS programs for a very long time.
Boise does play a weak conference slate, you’ll find out how weak after SJS crawls outta the stadium with cleat marks on their assess and faces (I say this as I am a digresser of known amounts and sloppiness) but they have begged top tier teams to play them and been shunned and we all know why: no one wants to play someone that tough in pre-season, well almost no one. Florida is too busy lining up the College of South Charleston for god’s sake—only if they agree to meet in Gainesville where it is safe. Boise also begged for MWC inclusion and was pushed aside for a few years. Now, is it Boise’s fault that they might beat Nebraska? I have the letter from Tom Osborne to me explaining that they were too scary that early in the season (no upside). I mean, if a team scares the top teams is it not too a top team?
Bowls in Atlanta have and would take a sloppy, lackluster 6-5 ACC team with a soon to be gone coach and little or no story line over a an 11-1 or 12-0 Boise team in the past [an aside of the modern variety: no team should be allowed to go to a bowl without at least 8 wins in my personal opinion, or 7 wins if the 5 losses were all ranked teams at one point in the year; please gentle reader, now return to my ranting] . Yes, I know why, but you can’t blame Boise for being in a system that rewards mediocrity over achievement and toughness. And let’s face it, what program had a bettery story line than that damned game over Oklahoma and the kid asking his gal her hand in marriage in the end zone? I mean, crap like that does sell pancakes.
And they aren’t entirely ignorant when it coems to assessing and developing talent, unless he implodes entirely this year, I’d take Kellen Moore at QB and so would a hell of a lot of programs. The kid has decent skills, not great, but he is unflappable under fire, sees the field in a way few QBs do and is a born leader and student of the game. They have some very positive things about them, Boise does, one of which is not that ugly blue field.
Two wrongs make a right?
I mean, if a team scares the top teams is it not too a top team?
Not necessarily. Miss. St. scares me every year but it’s not a top team.
You give too much credit to the media. They only want story lines. They don’t give a rat’s ass for BSU.
But the point is moot. No one is blaming BSU for being in a weak conference or for being in the BCS system. The argument is whether the BCS system is the best system that we can come up with right now. And I believe that it is. Every team must accept its strength of schedule. Even a team from a major conference can go undefeated and get shut out of the BCS CG. The BCS tries to fairly measure the accomplishments of a team over the whole season. This puts a high value on each game of the season, which is the beauty and pageantry of college football. A playoff system would undermine that distinctiveness and devalue the mysterious beauty of the college game. Until BSU moves into the PAC 10 or catches a break from other losing teams, they will not and should not be in the BCS CG.
I don't
A playoff is vastly superior.
Vastly. Until then? There is no national championship: it’s a beauty contest.
Quick answer
I mean, if a team scares the top teams is it not too a top team?
No. Just because you have talent/luck/motivation to hang with someone on a one-off deal hardly means the winner of the moral victory is a “top team”.
Top teams win those games. See, e.g., Vandy against Spurrier, dreadful Mississippi State teams with a propensity to playing out of their minds once or twice a season, and all the other “can’t get over the hump”ers.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Missippi State
Win most of their games year in and year out?
Beat good teams in BCS bowls?
Beat other top teams as well, like Oregon at their place or yours?
No, they did once but haven’t for awhile. So yes, mediocre teams sometimes pull one out. When Miss State was a good team, they were considerd and respected as such, correct?
Well give the devil its due mate. You don’t fear Miss State as much as Boise for one reason:
Boise is a better team, week in and week out, annually and has been for awhile now. When they fall apart, if they do, then you can draw specious comparisons like Miss State, until then?
Nonsese.
Dear Mean Robert
Follow your own logic.
I mean, if a team scares the top teams is it not too a top team?
You asked a question, the simple answer to which is, “No.” Miss. St. was given as the example. No attempt was made to say that BSU was MSU.
No
for teh simple reason that Miss State is a specious comparison. You “can” be scared of San Jose State, as well. Crappy-mediocre teams beat good ones, every year. I think often we see folks freaking out about a team that “remember, they beat us that one time . . .”
People don’t dodge Miss State do they? Doubtful.
oh yeah
being a va native, it very well could have been.
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
my aunt and uncle have taught at VT for a couple decades.
I like Frank Beamer and Blacksburg is fun despite its lack of southern blondes, so I’d consider myself somewhat a fan of VT. And watching games on the smurf turf gives me epilepsy.
"He grabbed his ear and tried to yank it from his head. His teammates stopped him and his managers bandaged him … He wanted to tear off his own ear so he could keep playing." - Tennessee tackle Bull Bayer regarding Alabama player Hargrove Van de Graaff and the 1913 Alabama vs. Tennessee game.
by Thomas Walker Esq on Sep 1, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry i won't see you at egan's on sat!
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
And I don't like blondes
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
They creep me out...
Seriously. Pale skin (usually), pale eyes, pale hair.
Too much cracker for me.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I am...
…I hope Boise gets their a#^#@*s handed to them.
by Queen of the Universe on Sep 1, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
This guy!
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Hokies, wait....
what is a hokie? Word around the work place is, it’s a sandwich, ass kicking chicken maybe.
.
I’ve been looking forward to the Boise game for a while now. I really, really wan’t Va Tech to pummel the Broncos. Why? It’s not their weak ass schedule or they’re constant chest pounding that brings all this resentment out, it’s the damn blue field with matching unis. No-one can convience me Boise isn’t seeking an unfair advantage with that color scheme. So I say GOOOOOOOO Hokies!
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By the way that LSU game is sparking my interest to. And how about The Old Ball Coach letting all the Hotelgate players play. It’s got to be a precurser to retirement. IMO
Hold my beer and watch this.
What about Sou. Miss. at S. Carolina?
This is a very interesting matchup between 2 bowl teams on Thursday night. Sou. Miss. had a very decent season last year (7-5) and should provide S. Carolina with a worthy opening test. We should get a pretty good sense for whether Spurrier is finally going to make a legitimate run for the East.
South Carolina
It’s just plain stupid for Spurrier to play the kids involved in the hotel housing issue. I’ve read some of the involved players could owe up to $5,000 in restitution. Either he’s very confident the NCAA won’t hand down any sort of punishment in these cases or he plainly doesn’t care. Either way the smart move is to sit them out pending the NCAA’s findings. If they play it could be huge trouble in the making for the SC program. If it turns out to be a huge leadership mistake, and SC gets sanctioned he can prolly kiss his Augusta membership goodbye.
Hold my beer and watch this.
Spurrier....
…has lost the fire. SC isn’t going to challenge in the east.
by Nico2.0 on Sep 2, 2010 12:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This time ever year
I feel like a little kid before Christmas. The best part is that I get to feel that way for the better part of 4 months. With that being said, I hope that football Santa brings an injury free victory for the Tide on Sat. and a huge Va Tech victory on Monday night.
the obvious is the Vt game,
but I’m, also looking forward to OSU vs. TCU. And I really hope Utah stuffs Dion Lewis so the obnoxious Pitt fans I know will stfu
"He grabbed his ear and tried to yank it from his head. His teammates stopped him and his managers bandaged him … He wanted to tear off his own ear so he could keep playing." - Tennessee tackle Bull Bayer regarding Alabama player Hargrove Van de Graaff and the 1913 Alabama vs. Tennessee game.
by Thomas Walker Esq on Sep 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions
Got a question...
is ESPN3 free in the states? Over here it carries you to what use to be ESPN360 and it’s 8 pounds 98 pence (about 14 dollars) per 24 hours or 89 pounds ( about 140 dollars) for the whole year. Don’t want to pay for lot’s of games I won’t watch, so I guess I’ll get the 24 hour one.
I think it depends on your internet provider . . .
which leads me to think that it would not be free in most foreign countries. It’s free on Verizon but I don’t know about other carriers.
I want to see VT..........
Gobble up the smurfs… get it hokies/ gobble
I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban
I'm looking forward to seeing the SouthernCal/Hawaii game
until USC is up a couple of scores that is.
The Process of Champions
I'm going to that game!
Who0000t 1!1
Kiffin in person. Look for the obnoxiously drunk moi chillin’ in a red ’Bama hoodie
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome...
I’ll definitely be looking the Bama hoodie early in the game… (I probably won’t see much past the 1st quarter)
The Process of Champions
While everyone's over VT/BSU...
I’m more interested in LSU/NC. Curious to see what LSu brings in this year, since we face them. I doubt it’ll be a great test for LSU since half of NC’s defense seems to be in crosshairs, but still… Otherwise, VT/BSU should be a good game. i agree wih the folk above who are harsh on BSU because of scheduling, though. It’s easy to prep for a bowl game when you have not had to grind out a tough conference schedule.
Will that be a true emasure though?
With all the off field problems NC is having, I don’t see that as being a contest that measures LSU anymore.
Sorry guys...
SEC homer -from-hell here…fuck Boise and VT…if the SEC is on, I’m watching them….first…then will pop around to see if anything else interesting is on. Our conference has spoiled me….don’t get me wrong, if it were not for the media turning this one game into Boise’s season(which, as pitiful as it is, is true) I could really care less…OOC is OOC (out-of-conference).
"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban
Actually that's not entirely true
Boise also plays Oregon State, but if you said they only played two tough games, maybe three, yeah I’d agree.
There is a tendency by SEC homers to think that the worst SEC team is somehow superior to a middling other conference team and that is not always the case.
C'mon MBM...
…we all know Vandy sucks, now if you’d said “… 11th best SEC team is somehow superior…” then it’d be accurate. ;)
by Nico2.0 on Sep 2, 2010 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
bs wins against VT and goes on to play for the NC
since bs plays no one after VT. Oregon State? Please spare me.
Oregon State is no slouch
You might recall that in 2008 it took Utah everything it had to beat them at our place and they hung one on USC that year. Oregon State perfectly capable of beating both TCU and Boise this year. Perfectly capable. They do seem to start slow each year though . . .
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