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Getting to Know Chavis Williams

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In one of the biggest surprises of fall camp, Chavis Williams was named the starting Sam linebacker Monday afternoon by head coach Nick Saban. Considering that Williams may be a bit of an unknown commodity, here's a bit of a primer in advance of the season opener this upcoming Saturday:

Chavis Williams is a product of Dora High School, where he starred on both sides of the ball, who signed with Alabama in Nick Saban's first recruiting class. He first started to make waves as a junior in high school, where he recorded 81 tackles and 9 sacks at defensive end despite only playing in nine games. The following year in his senior campaign, however, he really took off. As a senior he notched 123 tackles and 11 sacks as a defensive end, and added nearly 400 yards receiving and 6 touchdowns as a tight end on the offensive side of the ball. He helped lead Dora deep into the state playoffs, and for his effort he was named a first-team all-state player by Alabama sportswriters. Moreover, Williams didn't feast on the typically low level of Walker County competition (more on that later), he was in 4A, didn't play many teams from within the county, and faced some decent opponents. He was a kid with a long frame and a lot of quickness, all of which made blocking him a difficult task.

Yet, for the most part, no one made a serious play for him, and he didn't pick up any early offers. Arkansas actually found him first before anyone else, and thinking he'd found a diamond in the rough, Houston Nutt quickly extended an offer. Williams quickly accepted and originally committed to the Hogs on Halloween of 2006. Alabama and Auburn quickly jumped in with offers after that, but he stayed with Arkansas. When Nick Saban took over in Tuscaloosa in January of 2007, he put a renewed emphasis on Williams, and he finally convinced Williams to flip to Alabama in early February, mere days before National Signing Day.

For their part, the self-proclaimed recruiting "experts" never became convinced. None of the major recruiting services even had a basic profile of him prior to his commitment to Arkansas, even though they routinely "evaluate" in excess of 5,000 prep prospects per year. In the end, Rivals had him as a middling three-star, Scout.com had him as a two-star, and neither had him as one of the top twenty prospects in the state. The recruiting services spent their time focusing on two similar prospects high on Alabama, Alex Watkins and Kourtnei Brown, both of which have been busts to this point in their respective collegiate careers.

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So why did Williams fly under the radar? This is all conjecture on my part, but I would submit the biggest reason was probably where he came from. For those who don't know, Dora is a sleepy little town of about 2,000 people located in rural Walker County (well, relatively anyway, it's all rural in Walker County), and as someone who spent his formative years growing up in the area, I can attest first-hand that it is effectively a wasteland of prep football talent. On a per capita basis, it probably produces less football talent than any other county in the state of Alabama.

A few BCS conference players have came out of the county over the years, to be sure, but 'Bama products (and SEC products in general) have been very few and far between. To the best of my knowledge, no one from the county has meaningfully participated at Alabama since Griff Redmill in the late 1990's, and before that you would have to go back to the early 1990's with Brian Diehl and Chad Key (both walk-ons, if I remember correctly). Linnie Patrick was the only super-recruit to come out of the county in decades, but he failed to live up to the hype, and the last recruit of any real billing was Adam Cox in the 1996 class, who was unfortunately a recruiting bust who never found a position in Tuscaloosa.

If you're a potential college football prospect, you would probably be hard-pressed to find a worse area to come out of. Given the dearth of talent traditionally produced in the area, you know that the local schools and prep products receive almost no attention from college coaches, football scouts, and the recruiting services. Truth be told, you could probably be a good prospect with a bright future in a big-time conference, all the while largely flying under the radar screen. Contrast that to, say, a kid coming out of Vigor... you come out of there and you've got scouts lined up to watch the junior varsity play. If you're a big-time prospect in the state of Alabama, you want to come out of somewhere like Mobile, or Birmingham, or Gadsden, or, hell, anywhere but Walker County.

But alas, that is where Williams came from, and again in hindsight it's a bit hard to see exactly why he wasn't a bit more highly-touted than he was. He didn't have the pedigree of a truly elite product by any stretch, mind you, but given his prep production, his measurables, and his offer list, you would have expected him to have received more billing than he did.

When he arrived on campus, we tried to convert him over to linebacker. He played defensive end in high school, but despite his 6'4 frame, no one had any real delusions about him adding the necessary 75+ pounds that he would have needed in order to play that position in Nick Saban's 3-4 scheme. And, not surprisingly, it was a difficult transition. Ideally, we would have simply redshirted him as a true freshman, but the complete lack of the depth on the 2007 team precluded that as a possibility. He played in several games as a back-up linebacker and on special teams.

The next two years were largely hit and miss. He played a lot against Clemson in the 2008 season opener, racking up a big sack of Cullen Harper along the way. In fact, he played quite a bit in the first month of the season, and again as a pass rusher against Tennessee, but after that he inexplicably disappeared. 2009 was somewhat more of the same. He played on special teams and saw some meaningful playing time as a pass rusher in some big games -- Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, etc. -- but never consistently saw playing time.

Coming into the 2010 season, most expected that Jerrell Harris would take over the starting position at Sam. After the second scrimmage, however, Harris moved inside to the Will position, at which point it looked like Williams may get the starting job at Sam after all. And indeed that came to pass. I'm sure it was far from an easy journey for him to make the transition to linebacker, but three years later he has successfully done just that.

Fortunately for Alabama, Saban himself explicitly noted that it was Williams' progress that allowed for Harris to be moved inside, so this is a move being made out of a position of strength, not a move being made for the shortcomings of other players at other positions. Williams may be a bit of an unknown commodity, but if he showed well enough this fall to effectively force the likes of Chris Jordan and Nico Johnson to the bench, then you should be able to safely assume he'll play at a high level in 2010.

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And the last recruit of any real billing was Adam Cox in the 1996 class, who was unfortunately a recruiting bust

You’re telling me! The only two things I remember about Adam Cox are 1) he got beaten badly on a drag route in the 2000 Orange Bowl for a big first down late in the game and 2) his girlfriend was in nursing school at the university and was super hot!

"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"

by thecalicocat on Sep 2, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

In his defense......

He was a helluva a running back and should have played their in college, but was never really given a chance. So I give him a pass because of very poor coaching going on by none other than Dubose the DA.

I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban

by jtCRIMSON on Sep 2, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed this!

I might be changing my “Who’s your boy?” vote to Chavis.

Alabama football....The only addiction God wholeheartedly approves of..

by bammer on Sep 2, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Major man crush
He first started to make waves as a junior in high school, where he recorded 81 tackles and 9 sacks at defensive end despite only playing in nine games.

Wow!

Singing songs about the Southland

by SweetHomeAla on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Representing Dora!!!

I actually went to Dora in the late 90’s and I am so excited about a former Bulldog actually playing at Bama.

We did have 2 guys that made it to the SEC in the early 90’s…Adam Russel and Lahita(sp?) Grant both signed at Mississippi St but neither ever got significant playing time.

Side note-Joey Jones first head coaching job was Dora in the early 90’s.

I am not superstitious, but I'm a little 'stitious.-Michael Scott

by CharlieWork on Sep 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

To Saban, it's more important

to know your assignment cold (and that of the man next to you) than to have the physical measurables and a stellar recruiting pedigree.
Go get ’em Chavis!

by tc16cav on Sep 2, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

If you don't know your assignments

then all being a great athlete gets you is the ability to get further out of position quicker.

by zeke2029 on Sep 2, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

It sounded

like you were channelling Saban with that statement.

by BamaGirlinDallas on Sep 2, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is maybe the best way I've ever

heard anything put to terms in these parts…….have a rec sir

by p3bhambama on Sep 2, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Linnie Patrick

I thought I remember him as being pretty good. I noticed the Linnie Patrick “didn’t live up to the hype” in the article and the commenter with a problem with otsl’s English was linniep.

by Brad Bowen on Sep 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

"Pretty good" is probably fair...

Linnie definitely had some moments of brilliance, but consistently he never turned into a difference-maker, and was routinely plagued with off-field problems. He got in hot water with Bryant four times in his first couple of years, and was even kicked out of the athletic dorm a couple of times (which, was then the equivalent of being kicked off the team in the offseason).

He wasn’t a bad player, he just didn’t live up to the hype. Part of that was his fault for helping fuel the hype to begin with — he was talking about winning the Heisman as a sophomore when he signed — but it mainly had to do with him constantly staying in Bryant’s doghouse.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congratulations

to Chavis Williams for being named a starter. This was not luck or being in the right place. Coach Saban doesn’t “give” positions, you have to earn them. This is a great story about a young man who wouldn’t quit, kept working his tail off, paid attention to his coaches and finally was named as a starter. Congrats again and I hope he has a great season!

by bamafannms on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Must resist urge to make tornado joke...

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go right ahead

I grew up in Fayette, so I was actually making with teh jokes about Carbon Hill. Next I’ll make a snide remark about Berry or Gu-Win.

by alakan81 on Sep 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ahh...Gu-Win

the stupiest name of any town or city in the state of Alabama.

-What should we name our town?

-Well, we are in between Guin and Winfield?

-Done.

I am not superstitious, but I'm a little 'stitious.-Michael Scott

by CharlieWork on Sep 2, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you really want stupid.........

try this……. the town of Remlap, Alabama was a slight at the Palmer family that had the town of Palmerdale named after them. In order to piss on this family, they people in this area next to Palmerdale decided to name their town Remlap, which is Palmer spelled backwards.

I don't mind bad news, and I don't mind good news, but I can't stand surprises! Coach Nick Saban

by jtCRIMSON on Sep 2, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like

Bugtussle and Nauvoo (pronounced Nawwww-voooooo, dash added to indicate rest between syllables). Folks in both places are wonderful from what I’ve seen, but the names get me every time.

"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy

(Formerly SugarBowl93)

by RememberTheRoseBowl on Sep 2, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome...

… now I can work on my Luke Tucker and Spencer Pennington jokes.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walker County jokez cheklist

- Carbon Hill dentistry

- Wesley’s Booby Trap

- Alleged “Kill any person for $100” tree in Jasper

by alakan81 on Sep 2, 2010 3:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wesley’s Booby Trap

Ah, purported home of the possibly mythical / possibly real one-boobed stripper. At least that was the story when I was in grade school.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where is the tree?

I lived there for two summers, but didn’t hear about that.

"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy

(Formerly SugarBowl93)

by RememberTheRoseBowl on Sep 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have no idea

It’s one of many “redneck mafia” stories that get told in Fayette County about Walker County.

by alakan81 on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, almost forgot

- “Butterbean” Esch

- Coal miners that want to beat you up

- Bootleggers/drug dealers bribing Fayette County sheriffs(note the plural, for extra hilarity)

by alakan81 on Sep 2, 2010 4:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bootleggers…

My grandfather ran moonshine back in the 40’s and early 50’s. Always loved telling a story about a guy who kept stealing hooch from his stash hid way out in the back woods. So goes the story, he decided he’d stop it by pissing in the jars and then leaving them for the guy to find. And, of course, he came back for more, and inevitably imbibed. No more stealing ’shine.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams' story reminds me of a walk-on

from a couple years ago…..Rashad Johnson. I think the kid will be a monster. Not many can “get the system” we run on defense, but, if Saban comes out and says “he gets it”….more power to him.

"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban

by SRGBama on Sep 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

You obviously don't know much about Walker County....m

“wasteland of prep football talent”

Cordova – Steve Harris, Class of 76 – Played Basketball at Tennessee Tech (2 years), played football at UNA (2 years). Invited to Denver Broncos minicamp. Was last DB cut before season started.

Cordova – Steve Hyche, Class of 80 – Played Linebacker at Livingston, Free agent with the Chicago Bears. Played 3-4 years.

Cordova – Eric Groom – Class of 88 – Played WR/RB/QB at UNA. Won 2 national titles. (I know, I know, he wasn’t BCS material).

Cordova – Maurice Belser – Class of 91 – 2 year OL Starter at Alabama.

Cordova – Tim Simon – Class of 2008 – 5th All Time Rusher in Alabama HS history. 10+ ypc average each year for 4 years. Signed with Ole Miss. Severe knee injury has put his career in jeapardy.

Cordova – Ryan Smith – DB Signed with Auburn.

Cordova – Jake Howton – QB/DB – Presently has offers from Memphis, Southern Miss, Illinois (BCS School), La Tech, South Alabama, Stanford (BCS School)

Cordova – Maleki Harris – LB – Presently has offers from Memphis, Miss St (BCS School), Illinois (BCS School),Kansas (BCS School), South Alabama, Southern Miss)

That is just from memory.

I don’t follow the other county school near as much, but I remember Tony Dixon from Parrish playing and starting at Kentucky for a few years.

His teammate, Cole Mason (FB) committed to Kentucky but changed his mind and went to Southern Miss.

That is from a 3A school and a 1A school.

I can name 5 or ten playes from those schools who were BCS school athletes, but didn’t bother with school work so they never were recruited.

You want to visit a “wasteland”, travel to Limestone County, or Winston County, or Cullman County (the Britt brother pretty much dominate that history).

I hate it when guys don’t know what they are talking about.

by BBA24 on Sep 2, 2010 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, pretty sure you just proved my point

Basically all of one player in 35 years good enough to be a consistent starter at either ‘Bama or Auburn. If that’s not a "wasteland," I’d sure as hell hate to see what one really looked like.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 2, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your view of a wasteland is rather strange. By your standards, the entire...m

state of Alabama is a wasteland dotted by a few pockets of fertile schools.

If you expect a 1A, 2A or 3A school to be pumping out a starter at Bama or Auburn every year, then you don’t have firm grasp on HS football and recruiting.

I just pointed out 6 guys in the past 20 years from within a 10 mile radius who either started for or have been signed by BCS schools. There’s not enough people in that 10 mile circle to even make a 4A school. That is pretty fertile by any definition.

Now, the whole county? Carbon Hill and Curry stink at football. 25-30 years ago, Dora was a power. Not so much now.

You wrote a nice article about Williams, but your background info was innacurate, as I have just shown. Next time, do better research.

Oh, Linnie Patrick was not a bust, athletically. Best HS football player I have ever seen. That includes Joe Cribbs, Carnell Williams, ROlando McCLain, Kenneth Darby and other who are was/are in the NFL.

Linnie’s problem was all between the ears.

by BBA24 on Sep 2, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

compared to Gadsden, Mobile, Birmingham, etc

6 players in 20 years is precisely a wasteland…….those places have more than that come from each team in the region each year……..and don’t per capita me, there is no way per capita that those cities don’t produce more than the amount you have cited……..

by p3bhambama on Sep 2, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

you misread what I said.....

what I implied was that per capita Birmingham, Mobile, Gadsden, etc put out more talent than 5 or 6 players in 20 yrs………

by p3bhambama on Sep 6, 2010 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let me recap that list...
  • The first three you mentioned weren’t even Division 1-A players, that proves my point, not disproves.
  • Ryan Smith picked Auburn over Kentucky; Alabama did not offer, and the aforementioned two schools were his only BCS conference offers.
  • Tim Simon did not receive an offer from either Alabama or Auburn, and his career may already be over before it really started.
  • Cole Mason turned down Kentucky to sign with Southern Miss, wasn’t offered by either ’Bama or Auburn (or any major school) and transferred to West Alabama after washing out in Hattiesburg.
  • Tony Dixon signed with Kentucky (no major offers) and only started a handful of games when others were hurt. As a senior he averaged 3.3 yards per carry.
    *Howton and Harris will probably sign with non-BCS conference schools, and neither ’Bama or Auburn have shown interest

Who else do you have? Linnie Patrick? No, Linnie was not a bust athletically, but if you’re going to use that line of reasoning then Albert Means wasn’t a bust either. It’s not just athleticism that counts, if you’ve noticed.

So, seriously, who else do you have? Belser and Redmill were both decent players who started at ‘Bama, and Eric Oliver was a consistent starter at safety for Ole Miss. Antwon Courington had a decent career at Southern Miss, but honestly that’s all I can think of. Adam Cox was a bust at ’Bama, Jon Simmons washed out at Southern Miss after a couple of years, and aside from Smith I cannot think of anyone from Walker County that has signed with Auburn in ages.

From the best of my memory, Walker County has turned out four or five regular starters at Division 1-A schools in the past 20 years, and that’s about as bad as you can get. If you want to be delusional enough to think that’s something to be proud of, then have at it.

As an aside, though, exactly where do you think this power of football is coming from out of Walker County? As you mentioned, both Carbon Hill and Curry are consistently terrible. Oakman is tiny and nothing special. Cordova and Parrish have done some great things on the field over the years, but that really hasn’t translated into any major prep recruits, aside from Belser out of Cordova. Walker is the big school, of course, but they haven’t really turned out anything special either. They routinely get waxed by the good 5A and 6A schools, and to the best of my knowledge they haven’t turned out more than a couple of BCS conference starters in the past 20 or 30 years. I’m open to arguments to the contrary, mind you, but I’m not seeing anything convincing now.

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman

by outsidethesidelines on Sep 3, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beat me to it OTS......

that’s what I was gonna say……..your list, BBA, reads like a wasteland…….you should be here a little longer before you start saying people don’t know what they are talking about…….you just accused the guy who is MOST likely to know what he is talking about and proved his point to boot…….

by p3bhambama on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

all those posts about the dos and the don'ts

and here we are anyway…

"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban

by LittleSis on Sep 3, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

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