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Alabama vs Florida: A Historical Retrospective

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Alabama and Florida have been facing off against each other on the football field for 94 years but the overall number of these matchups is relatively minuscule compared to other long time SEC teams. The Crimson Tide and the Gators have met 35 times with Alabama coming away victorious on 21 occasions.

The rivalry between the two teams has largely been defined by the conferences they shared. Alabama became part of the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association in 1895 but Florida didn't join until 1910, delaying a matchup in a time long road trips made many away games impossible.

The two teams met twice as members of the association. The first on Oct. 21, 1916 when Alabama under head coach Thomas Kelly traveled to Gainesville and walloped the Gators 16-0. Running back Cecil Creen was the star of the show as Florida seemed unable to stop him on offense.

Florida returned the favor on Nov. 11, 1921 when they came to Tuscaloosa for Alabama's homecoming and upset the Xen Scott-led Tide 9-2. The formidable leg of the Gators' Arc Newton made the difference in the contest as his kicks put points on the board and his punts kept the Tide pinned all afternoon. Alabama's only score, came on a safety after blocking one of his punts.

In 1921, Alabama and seven other schools left the SIAA over a dispute concerning playing freshmen athletes and formed the Southern Conference. Florida joined the new association a year later and thus began a regular series between the two school. Over the next decade they would meet six times with Alabama earning a 4-2-0 record against the Sunshine State saurians (interestingly, the Tide held the Gators scoreless in every victory over that span).

In 1933, thirteen of the conference's 23 schools -- including Alabama and Florida -- split away and formed the Southeastern Conference. The SEC was set up so that each school played six conference games -- five against permanent opponents and a sixth game rotated between the other four members.

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As a result, Alabama and Florida saw less of each other than they had during the late 1920 but were not forgotten on each others roster. Over the next six decades, the two teams met sixteen times with the Tide rolling up a 11-5 record including a streak of eight straight wins between 1964 and 1986.

The expansion of the SEC in the early 1990s and the onset of the two-division arrangement and the conference championship is what truly fueled the rivalry. Under Gene Stallings, Alabama came to dominate the new Western Division and Steve Spurrier's Florida squads ran amuck in the East Division.

Over the next decade the two teams met only twice in the regular season but faced off no less than five times in the SEC Championship Game. Alabama mustered a 3-4 record over those games, winning the SECCG on two occasions.

The ascendance of both teams in recent years allied with the rotating SEC divisional schedule have allowed Alabama and Florida to become regular foes since 2005. In the past five years the teams have met four times with the Crimson Tide earning a 2-2 record over that span.

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Alabama vs Florida Historical Record

Season W/L Score Date Location Game Info/Rank
1916 W 16-0 Oct. 21 Jacksonville, FL
1921 L 2-9 Nov. 11 Tuscaloosa, AL Homecoming
1923 L 6-16 Nov. 29 Birmingham, AL
1925‡† W 34-0 Nov. 14 Montgomery, AL Alabama's 150th Win
1926‡† W 49-0 Nov. 13 Montgomery, AL
1927 L 6-13 Nov. 12 Montgomery, AL
1930‡† W 20-0 Nov. 8 Gainesville, FL
1931 W 41-0 Nov. 7 Birmingham, AL
1948 W 34-28 Nov. 27 Tuscaloosa, AL Homecoming
1949 W 35-13 Nov. 26 Gainesville, FL
1950 W 41-13 Nov. 25 Jacksonville, FL Alabama (17)
1951 L 21-30 Nov. 24 Tuscaloosa, AL Homecoming
1963 L 6-10 Oct. 12 Tuscaloosa, AL Alabama (3)
1964‡† W 17-14 Oct. 24 Tuscaloosa, AL Alabama (3) Florida (9)
1970 W 46-15 Sept. 26 Tuscaloosa, AL Florida (13)
1971† W 38-0 Sept. 25 Gainesville, FL Alabama (8)
1972† W 24-7 Oct. 14 Tuscaloosa, AL Alabama (3)
1973‡† W 35-14 Oct. 13 Gainesville, FL Alabama (3)
1978‡† W 23-12 Oct. 14 Gainesville, FL Alabama (7)
1979‡† W 40-0 Oct. 13 Gainesville, FL Alabama (2)
1986 W 21-7 Sept. 20 Gainesville, FL Alabama (4) Florida (13)
1987 L 14-23 Sept. 19 Birmingham, AL Alabama (11)
1990 L 13-17 Sept. 15 Tuscaloosa, AL Florida (24)
1991 L 0-35 Sept. 14 Gainesville, FL Alabama (16) Florida (6)
1992‡† W 28-21 Dec. 5 Birmingham, AL SECCG Alabama (2)
1993 L 13-28 Dec. 4 Birmingham, AL SECCG Alabama (16) Florida (9)
1994 L 23-24 Dec. 3 Atlanta, GA SECCG Alabama (3) Florida (6)
1996 L 30-45 Dec. 7 Atlanta, GA SECCG Alabama (11) Florida (4)
1998 L 10-16 Oct. 3 Tuscaloosa, AL Florida (8)
1999 W 40-39 Oct. 2 Gainesville, FL Alabama (7) Florida (5) OT
1999† W 34-7 Dec. 4 Atlanta, GA SECCG Alabama (21) Florida (3)
2005 W 31-3 Oct. 1 Tuscaloosa, AL Alabama (15) Florida( 5) Vacated by the NCAA
2006 L 13-28 Sept. 30 Gainesville, FL Florida (5)
2008 L 20-31 Dec. 6 Atlanta, GA SECCG Alabama (1) Florida (2)
2009‡† W 32-13 Dec. 5 Atlanta, GA SECCG Alabama (2) Florida (1)

‡ National Champion, † SEC Champion

Source: The University of Alabama 2010 Football Media Guide

Note: There is a discrepancy between the Alabama and Florida records. Alabama's record book and media guide lists the first meeting between the two teams as Oct. 3, 1904. Which is a problem since Florida didn't field a football squad until 1906. According to the UA history book the 1904 game was against Florida State.

The Alabama vs Florida Record Book

Record Alabama Florida
Most Points 49 (1926) 45 (1996)
Fewest Points 0 (1991) 0 (8 times)
Most 1st Down 29 (1970) 23 (2 times)
Fewest 1st Down 11 (1988) 3 (1979)
Most Yards Rush 435 (1979) 233 (1987)
Fewest Yards Rush 41 (1998) 30 (1992)
Most Yards Pass 336 (1999) 401 (1996)
Fewest Yards Pass 9 (1971) 7 (1979)
Most Total Plays 83 (1978) 81 (1998)
Fewest Total Plays 55 (2005) 41 (1979)
Most Yds Tot Off 496 (1978) 470 (1996)
Fewest Yds Tot Off 211 (1963) 66 (1979)
Most Yards Rush 147
(B Jackson, 1978)
224
(E Smith, 1987)
Most Yards Pass 336
(A Zow, 1999)
401
(D Wuerffel, 1996)
Most Receptions 10
(F Milons, 1999)
11
(R Anthony, 1996)
Most Yards Rec 134
(T Prothro, 2005)
213
(T McGriff, 1998)

Source: The University of Alabama Football Record Book

 

Florida & The Alabama Record Book

Record Place Year Statistic Holder
Most Opponent 1st Down 1st (tie) 1967 21 team
Most Plays 1st 2007 63 (53 pass, 10 rush) John Parker Wilson
Most Plays 7th 1996 53 (45 pass, 8 rush) Freddie Kitchens
Most Plays 11th 2006 51 (40 pass, 11 rush) John Parker Wilson
Yards per Rush (min 5) 6th (tie) 1999 19.3 (6 att, 116 yd, 1 td) Freddie Milons
Yards per Rush (min 10) 10th 1978 11.3 (13 att, 147 yd, 1 td) Billy Jackson
Rushing TDs 3rd (tie) 1971 4 Johnny Musso
Longest TD Rushes 4th (tie) 1978 87 yards Billy Jackson
Most Pass Completions 4th (tie) 1999 28 (40 att, 336 yd) Andrew Zow
Most Pass Attempts 6th (tie) 1996 45 (19 cpl, 264 yd) Freddie Kitchens
Most Yards Passing 8th 1999 336 yards (28 of 40) Andrew Zow
Longest Scoring Pass Plays 1st 1996 94 yards Freddie Kitchens to Michael Vaughn
Yards Per Catch 6th 1996 28.4 (5 for 142 yd) Michael Vaughn
Yards Per Catch 8th 2008 24.8 (5 for 124 yd) Julio Jones
Most Receptions 8th (tie) 1999 10 (119 yard) Freddie Milons
Most Points 4th (tie) 1971 24 (4 TDs) Johnny Musso
Most Points 4th (tie) 1999 24 (4 TDs) Shaun Alexander
Total TDs 4th (tie) 1999 4 (3 rush, 1 rec) Shaun Alexander
Total TDs 4th (tie) 1999 4 (4 rush) Johnny Musso
Longest Punt Return 11th 2003 73 yards Shaud Williams
Most Points in a Loss 12th 1996 30 team

Source: The University of Alabama Football Record Book

 

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According to the UA history book the 1904 game was against Florida State.

Probably was the predecessor to FSU. This is from the FSU Football wiki page:

Florida State University was established in 1851 as the West Florida Seminary. Football at FSU started as early, or earlier than 1899 at the West Florida Seminary. In 1901, the school was renamed the Florida State College. In 1904 the football team was declared the champions of the state and competed against Georgia Tech and other schools including the Florida Agricultural College in Lake City, one predecessor of the University of Florida in Gainesville, FL.

FSU didn’t really field an official football team until 1947 when, after the WWII, the school was made co-ed.

Aside from all that (who cares about FSU?), this is becoming a pretty stout rivalry.

by skigator93 on Sep 29, 2010 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm quoting the UA history book

i’m unclear as to exactly which team the 1904 squad is the predecessor for.

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by kleph on Sep 29, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was suprised that we were ranked as low as #21 in the 1999 SECCG.

"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"

by thecalicocat on Sep 29, 2010 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too

We lost to Louisiana Tech (shivers) and UT. I thought I remembered us being 10th or 11th going into the Orange Bowl (5th?)

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by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 29, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's the data for the 1999 season

Date…………. W-L-T……. Opponent…………………………………………. Score…………. Attendance
Sept. 4……….. W………….(20) Vanderbilt…………………………………….. 28-17………………c41,600
Sept. 11…….. W………….(21)Houston (at Birmingham)………………….37-10……………… c80,110
Sept. 18…….. L…………. (18) Louisiana Tech (at Birmingham)……….. 28-29…………….. c80,312
Sept. 25…….. W……………Arkansas (14)………………………………….. 35-28…………….. c83,818
Oct. 2…………. W…………(21) Florida (3)…………………………………….. 40-39 (OT)……….c85,721
Oct. 16……….W……………(11) Mississippi (22)…………………………….. 30-24……………….52,122
Oct. 23……….L……………. (10) Tennessee (5)…………………………….. 7-21………………. c86,869
Oct. 30……….W………….(14) Southern Mississippi (HC)……………….. 35-14…………….. c83,818
Nov. 6………… W………….(12) LSU………………………………………….. 23-17…………….. c83,818
Nov. 13……… W………….(11) Mississippi State (8)…………………….. 19-7……………….. c83,818
Nov. 20……… W………….(8) Auburn (Nt)………………………………….. 28-17……………….c85,214
Dec. 4…………. W………….(7) Florida (5) (Nt) (at Atlanta, Ga.)………….34-7……………….. c74,309
ORANGE BOWL
January 1…… L……………. (5) Michigan (8) (Nt) (at Miami, Fla.)…… 34-35 (OT).N…… 70,461

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by kleph on Sep 29, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The 1904 game

was in a way against both FSU and Florida. It wasn’t until 1905 that FSU became an all girls school, and at that time the football team was transferred to Florida. So those fellas that Bama beat in 1904, were technically FSU, but became Florida the following year when the state formed the University of the state of Florida, merging several other schools together. Technically the two didn’t formally meet until 1916, which is unfortunate. It would have been in interesting had they met in 1912, when Florida posted a 5-0-1 record, which is to this day, the only undefeated season we’ve enjoyed.

by Cardsfan25 on Sep 29, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Do you think that FSU

will ever cease to be an all-girls school and one day field a football team again?

"Shave your head, get a wet sponge, and flip the switch, 'cause you're about to get a Truthocution!" -Stephen Colbert

by Slice of Life on Sep 29, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are rumors.....

but I don’t believe them. I’ve heard grumblings about something called a “Jimbo”, but I’ve never heard of it

by Cardsfan25 on Sep 29, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

a georiga fan has an explanation for the year discrepancy...

although the man admits to his bias up front…

Ok, so here’s the story. In 1884, the Florida Agricultural College in Lake City, Florida, became the first land-grant college in the state of Florida. It was, by virtue of its position, considered the premier college in Florida at the time, and focused on the scientific training of agricultural and mechanical specialties. In 1903, the Florida state legislature changed the name of Florida Agricultural College to “The University of Florida.” (Presumably, this was to avoid the unfortunate jokes that could be made at the expense of FAgU.)

This FAgU did field a football team, and the year following its name change, the University of Florida played and lost 5 games by an aggregate score of 0-255. This display of futility included a 52-0 thrashing at the hands of the University of Georgia Red and Black in Macon. (They also lost to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia Tech, and West Florida Seminary/Florida State College.)

In 1905, the Florida legislature figured they just had to dip their toe in the pool again just to stir everything up, and the University of Florida (the one at Lake City) was merged with East Florida Seminary (in Gainesville) and two other schools to create… The University of Florida (this time in Gainesville). The University of Florida (Lake City)’s President was chosen to be the new President of the new University of Florida (Gainesville), and the students and faculty were transferred down to Gainesville, as well. Due to the transition, UF fielded no team in 1905, but resumed playing football in 1906. They did not renew their series with the Red and Black until 1915.

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by kleph on Oct 28, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

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