20/20 Hindsight: San Jose State Edition
by kleph on Sep 5, 2010 8:37 AM CDT
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PrintThe Crimson Tide 2010 Season started against a lightweight opponent yesterday and, from the national perspective, the most newsworthy thing about the contest is that it wasn't newsworthy. Alabama effectively handled San Jose State Spartans in a workmanlike 48-3 victory that served to inaugurate the newly-expanded Bryant-Denny Stadium.
The pundits concerned themselves with other games and, when they took a gander at the Tide's outing, it was in the context of next week's contest. As a result, most of the detailed coverage of the contest was regulated to the local media outlets which is where 20/20 Hindsight is, for the most part, hanging out today...
No Mark Ingram. No Marcell Dareus. No sweat. The top-ranked University of Alabama football team opened the 2010 season without its Heisman Trophy winner and without the most valuable player from last season’s national championship game, but neither was needed in a 48-3 victory over outmanned San Jose State.
No. 1 Tide opens season with easy win | TideSports.com
Alabama rang up 591 yards of total offense and limited San Jose State to 175. Greg McElroy was 13-of-15 for 218 yards and a touchdown, the Tide averaged 6.3 yards on 41 carries and SJSU was 1-of-13 on third-down conversions. Given the way the other top-tier teams in the SEC looked this weekend, is Alabama even more of a favorite today than they were on Friday?
Topics for Discussion // 09.05.10 - Team Speed Kills
First, the team with the most talent won the game. The Spartans didn’t have many guys who could have even caught up with the pass, let alone touch it — then catch it.
Bama offense explodes in rout of Spartans | Dothan Eagle
The Alabama Crimson Tide culture -- with 101,821 noisy spectators screaming with Southern accents for their team full of excellent future top NFL draft choices -- can pretty much overwhelm the culture of an overmatched little West Coast team full of future excellent teachers, law enforcement officers and insurance salesmen.
San Jose State will gain from big loss to No. 1 Alabama - San Jose Mercury News
Midway through the third quarter, Richardson sat at the end of the bench next to Ingram, but for all the right reasons. Alabama had emptied its bench. The Tide had the game in a vice grip. The two running backs behind Richardson on the depth chart, Eddie Lacy and Demetrius Goode, were already sharing carries and highlight plays.
Trent Richardson rises for Crimson Tide | pnj.com | Pensacola News Journal
"Honestly, I went crazy," right guard Barrett Jones said. "[Julio Jones second-quarter TD catch] was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. It was like 'Wow. Unbelievable.' You think I'd be used to it, because he does stuff like that in practice all of the time."
Julio involved early, often for Alabama | al.com
In all, the UA coaching staff played 47 players in the first quarter alone, several of whom had no previous game experience, and many took the field before the game was in hand for the Crimson Tide. Saban said the UA staff had planned to play backup quarterback A.J. McCarron in the second quarter regardless of the score.
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The Mercury News
just couldn’t resist slipping in some snide shit, could they?
The Alabama Crimson Tide culture — with 101,821 noisy spectators screaming with Southern accents for their team full of excellent future top NFL draft choices — can pretty much overwhelm the culture of an overmatched little West Coast team full of future excellent teachers, law enforcement officers and insurance salesmen.
Because, as we all know, every last person on the team will get drafted in the first round, receive lucrative UFA contracts, have a long and prosperous career, and never have to worry about the petty realities of finding a job as a teacher, salesman or cop.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions
Even their little remark is stupid.
They claim SJS is preparing people to be teachers, policemen, and insurance salesmen. Ok, nothing wrong with that…but why not say future business leaders, doctors, lawyers, engineeers, etc.
And to be honest you don’t need to go to college to be a cop or sell insurance.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
i think the point is...
alabama players are more likely to go on to careers as professional athletes than follow their given degree into their career field. which, obviously, isn’t too far off the mark (although one rhodes scholar hopeful would certainly beg to differ).
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it's still too broad a brush
no one denies that the major programs are feeders to the pros. It’s still less than 10% of the guys that are going to get that shot; even less for those who make a roster and stick around; and obviously it’s a lightning bolt’s chance that they will enjoy anything resembling longevity.
So, at the end of the day, you may have 3-4 guys from each class that are productive and can stick around in the pros. What about the other 100+ kids who do have to follow their degrees/education to the workforce?
It’s convenient for the SJ press to paint one team are part of a larger football factory, and then to portray their own squad as a bastion of true amateurism, where the SJSU players are just riding out the string until they can get jobs as “excellent teachers”….
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if you were from california and wanted to go to the nfl
would you play for SJS?
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I detest San Jose, so no...
Besides, do you know damned expensive it is there?
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by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I lived in San Jose for about 6 months...outside of the city's quality Vietnamese food
and proximity to Santa Cruz it was a dump. I hope to never return.
Never truss a big butt and a smile.
by R-Train on Sep 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
teachers, policemen and...insurance salesmen? One of the professions is not like the other ones.
Writers spouse or kid an insurance salesman or something? I’m in sales myself so don’t get the wrong impression, but I’m just saying that in the pantheon of careers, salesman is right above disk jockey.
Never truss a big butt and a smile.
Delurking to make this point
Salesmen are products of the market, which is dependent wholly on satisfying customers. If they don’t produce value for their customers, they don’t eat.
Teachers and policemen are products of the State, which is a political body, and the value it produces is too many times more than offset by the burden it places on the polity. If a government worker isn’t producing value, they just wait a few years and enjoy a nice pension.
One of these professions is definitely not like the others, but you’re upside down regarding the inherent value of each.
And for the record, I am not a salesman, and dread having to deal with them in my day-to-day work. However, I’d much rather deal with a salesman than any policeman or teacher. Salesmen have the power to steal a bit of my time; policemen can take my liberty, and teachers can steal my children’s inspiration, and I have little recourse against either.
Sorry for the threadjack, carry on!
Uhhh, what R-Train said...
If this is how you “delurk”, then do so more often.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey I'd agree.
My point is, Is this what schools in Cal. are bragging about? We produce insurance salesmen and teachers?
Sure we need them, and nothing wrong with doing those jobs. But if I was trying to put down a supposedly ignorant school I’d be bragging my school produced research scientist, engineers, doctors, business leaders, etc.
Truth is if you have been to Cal. you know the whole place is based on good old government jobs. That and entertainment.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
The only problem I have
Is the insinuation that this is a uniquely Southern thing. USC doesn’t have 100,000 fans screaming for future first rounders when they overmatch poor little Virginia or Idaho?
"Only the strong survive, but the strong still get their ass whipped." -Nick Saban
hmmm... I don't really have a problem with Bama being portrayed
as the home of some of the most rabid football fans around.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
College football's lunatic fringe
and damn proud of it.
by TETRAGRAMMATON on Sep 5, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
and i don't have any qualms about being painted as a "football factory" either
i see the number of players alabama had drafted last april as a point of pride and a testament to the quality of the program coach saban has put together.
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Bad news for LSU
looks like they’ve lost a olineman for a while with a broken foot.
http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/featured/102243569.html?showAll=y&c=y
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From the San Jose Mercury News......
The Alabama Crimson Tide culture — with 101,821 noisy spectators screaming with Southern accents for their team full of excellent future top NFL draft choices — can pretty much overwhelm the culture of an overmatched little West Coast team full of future excellent teachers, law enforcement officers and insurance salesmen.
What the heck is that supposed to mean? I think The University of Alabama turns out enough professionals in many fields, not just sports. If you don’t want your arse beaten by the big boys, don’t play with the big boys. Man, that West Coast culture just has to try and put the South down at every opportunity. Well, you couldn’t pay this Southern accented boy to move out to the West Coast.
Have a Crimson Tide Day!
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The only problem I have with insuation here is the insinuation that without the fans "screaming with Southern accents..."
that this would have been anything less than a lubeless rogering. Fans can make a difference but don’t usually mean 45 ppg. I think the part about the skill level of the players was too flowerty and leaves too much room for misinterpretation and thus leaving a bad taste in our mouths. I didn’t take it as an insult but I think putting the outcome of the game on the fans lacks honesty and iundicates the “journalist” doesn’t quite have a grasp of basic American football…or reality….probably both.
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by R-Train on Sep 5, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
good use of "rogering"
you get a rec.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm damn proud of my southern accent
i appreciate it when someone notices it. if they aren’t enlightened enough to understand how special it is ain’t my problem.
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by kleph on Sep 5, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Different people all over the world have different accents
WTF is there about a southern accent that makes it “dumb?” I don’t get that.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by my count there were no less than five commercials on gameday
that made a person with a foreign and/or regional accent the butt of the joke. it’s a generalized perception that english fluency is equivalent with a privileged or superior position.
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Truest sentence ever...
Try being from Appalachia if you thin a southern accent is frowned upon ;)
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
And Kleph gets another rec....
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The funny thing about that article is how the writer
keeps trying to make it out as some kind of tragedy that poor San Jose was playing a paycheck game. Much of the national media does the same thing. Oh those poor SJSU players, being forced to take a beating just to line the athletic department’s pockets.
…but then they interview the players and they all talk about what a great time they had, how exciting it was, and how it was a memory to last a lifetime. Those poor guys.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
i just watched the last play of that game....
Should of been a flag for Lineman down field…Def some olineman blocking down field on a forward pass….It was suppose to be a shovel pass (which wouldn’t of been a penalty)
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"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
What about you?
Aren’t you in Hawaii? Isn’t it like 5 AM there? Have you even been to bed?? LOL
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
I passed out at 8:45 local
got up at 3:00….spry as a chicken and doing okay. I’m back in mid-season shape, boys and girls!
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
yea i woke up at 8 PST
had 2 bloody marys and liek 4 vodka red/bulls by halftime of the big ten games. finished up with some jager bombs, beers, and a chorizo omelette for breakfast. i had a hard time powering through the next several hours, especially since michigan and notre were disappointing me so. but alas, i made it to the bama game, upright and barely able to nurse a beer. put the ribs in the oven before kickoff, took em out at half, low n slow to finish on the grill. passed the fuck out in the 3rd quarter. woke up after the game was over, rewound to the play play i could remember. then remembered i had ribs on the grill. lets just say the ribs faired better than SJSU, but not by much. they was jerky ribs. but i still ate em. while watching college gameday final.
so, i got to work on my conditioning clearly. but i must say, i did take down at least a dozen beveridges before 1 in the afternoon. so that is setting the bar pretty high. now, as always, i need to focus on FINISHING.
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I think by halftime of the morning snoozers
I had blown through a half case of Kirin, and was starting on the Blue Hawaiians (best drunk drink ever, BTW…so much juice in them that it staves off dehydration).
Of course, the heavy meal of citrus/fresh fish/pork and cabbage likely helped to put enough protein in my system to make the late-Dr. Atkins proud.
Yes, I do need to finish the drill though…Girlie is not happy about passing out before 9:00.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry i was talking about Jville State game...
and SITP, im still a little drunk
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get rid of the loaded box
I like this quote from the al.com article
Coach Nick Saban said San Jose State showed a loaded box, not unlike the look a lot of teams tried to run against Alabama last season. If nothing else, what Jones and the Crimson Tide did against the Spartans might make future defenses think twice about it.
This is what I took away from the game as Bama’s general plan…1) test starter’s ability to execute in game envirnoment 2) give experience where needed most 3) send a message to future opponents that the Bama Offense is not unidimensional.
Great start to the season!
I'm still defending McElroy as a starter
But AJ looked really, really good last night.
Also…
Before the game I was less worried about the defensive backfield and more worried about the kicking game. Now I’ve reversed my view.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
Glad Cade Foster got some practice on FGs and XPs once we had the game in our hands
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Cade Foster is truly my BFF....
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by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Kickoffs looked nice too
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Julio Jones
looked like a completely different player last night. He looked faster than I have ever seen him. That one handed catch was badass and a thing of beauty. He also took a handoff at one point in the game and almost took it to the house running over people. lol
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by AlabamaTitans2009 on Sep 5, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions
he did look great
Just think, he was a guy some of us were complaining about for dropped passes, and then last night he makes an amazing one-handed catch. I’m looking forward to some great things from him this season.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
he did
drop a wide open out pass…It was bad and he knew it.
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yeah but it wasn't a drive killer on 3rd down
either. we still scored a TD on that drive, and liek you said he knew it. he acknowledged it was his drop to Greg, put on his game face and blocked the shit out of soem dude ont he next play. then 1 or 2 possessions later he made the one handed highlight catch. all in all, stellar day from Julio, and as someone who watches larry fitzgerald play every weekend (and is a raging Bama homer…), i swear he looks more and more like him all the time. Julio = the next Larry.
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you've got it
for 13 more games. and we should all be thankful for each of them. particularly the ones in december and january.
did i mention game 1 has re-affirmed my feelings on Bama going 14-0? cause it did. i’m more sure than ever. bank on it people.
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Well, as a def coord, what do ya do?
Load the box to stop the run and we dump the ball out to Julio so we can watch him steamroll db’s.
Or play it straight up and watch TR, EL and DG run wild. Oh, add Jalston to that list.
My bet is that PSU tries to play it straight up, at least to start the game.
In the end, (obviously) if the middle of their D cant stop the run, then they are friggin toast.
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