The SEC Is Weak(er)
I've never been one of those "SEC! SEC! SEC!" type fans. My dislike/ hate for Auburn, UT, LSU, UF etc makes it hard to pull for said teams during OOC games. I pulled for UNC last night and you better believe i was a huge Jville State fan yesterday. I've lived all over the south and have endured many a tongue lashing from SEC fanbases and to me, they deserve every humiliating loss that comes their way. Thomas Walker esq said it best "Karma is a M'fer". What I'm trying to say is that though Bama plays in the SEC and yes I'm a fan of Alabama, that doesn't mean im a SEC homer and can't see the truth....
And wha'ts the truth? The SEC is the weakest it's been in a long, long time.
Yes I know the SEC holds the last 4 BCS National Championships but I think we'd all agree at least that the LSU win wasn't earned...it was given. And if you look at the league as a whole this year its not hard to see the weaknesses.
LSU is bad. They have a ton of talent but poor coaching will do them in. They damn near gave up a 21 point lead to a team who was lacking 13 of its best players. If it weren't for special teams last night, they probably lose that game.
Ole Miss is TERRIBLE. No pass defense, the oline is their weakest link and once again, they have no identity on offense. Their one strong point is their D-line but they gave up 103 yards on the ground and an average of 3.1 yrds per carry. Kleph might be right and they could play with reckless abandon but it won't be enough. Nutt will be fired soon.
UF needs work and should be a top 10 team at years end but they are not the same. They just seemed lost.
UGA looks better but time will tell. That 3-4 D looked good though. Their problem will be in starting a freshMAN QB.
Auburn still has no defense. The offense is still gimicky and Chizik is still their coach.
USC looks better. Next week will tell us a lot.
UK, MSU and Vandy all look to be about the same as a year ago. MSU looks to be the most improved.
Arkansas is a toss up. With no D, that offense will have to be lights out each and every game, which won't last.
UT will get destroyed next week and will be brought back down to earth.
So again, this is not a great conference. It's still top heavy with Bama and UF leading the way but the 2010 SEC reminds me a lot of the 09 Big 12. Two really good teams on top and a lot of average, to below average teams filling up the rest.
Who's the best conference right now? Im not 100% sure its the SEC. IMO, no conference looks to be amazing.
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dunno if it's weaker
but the difference between the “haves” and the “have nots” is certainly the widest it’s been since the mid-1990s.
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exactly.
unless UGA and USC are as good as they’ve looked so far, the SEC will relinquish the “Best Conference” trophy this year. Im afraid the Big 10 might be the best right now.
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but also remember...
the “sec is weak” was one of the arguments offered to explain alabama’s run in 2008 as well. so this isn’t exactly new.
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and i think
that argument has a lot of merit. Auburn was down, Ole Miss was bad, UGA was overrated…I think that 08 team was good but not great.
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ole miss in 08 was bad?
guess that explains why they beat the living piss out of texas tech, a team that was 1 loss away from playing for the national title.
The beauty of The Process is that you have never arrived, so you get to continue being perpetually awesome... -Espyonage
I guess I'm an SEC homer, but
I want the SEC to be strong. When Bama beats these teams and wins the SEC, I want it to be seen as a major accomplishment, not like Boise winning the WAC. (A little extreme example, but same concept.)
If nothing else, Bama fans should recognize that we won’t be undefeated every year. If we want to be able to compete for the NC with 1 or 2 losses, we need the SEC to be the top conference.
But yeah, the SEC looked very weak yesterday. And I for one was not happy about it.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
agreed....
i think we were all pulling for Jville St at the end of that game. It really wasn’t because it was Ole Miss but just sometimes, the little guy should win. I wanted NC to win cause they were playing with a lot of heart even with all the distractions. LSU didn’t deserve to win that game.
Don’t get me wrong, i dont want the SEC to be weak, its just opinion that it is.
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i always want the SEC strong...
and I am the worst about crowing for the SEC among my non-SEC buddies. But I usually find myself rooting against our rival SEC teams in OOC games. I know that does not make sense, yet I enjoy it so much, I don’t care. That is another thing I love about college football, I don’t have to be consistant, I just have to enjoy the moment.
And I agree, the SEC is slipping overall.
That white stuff on the top of chickencrap...... is chickencrap.
I'll rot against Auburn and Tennessee
And, well, often against LSU as well. But I’m fine with all the rest of the teams. My department in UA has a lot of links to UNC so I’ve started rooting for their team somewhat. Disappointing that they couldn’t pull it off but they sure embarrassed LSU. I think we’ll know a little more next week.
Obviously UT will not perform like that against real competition, but given their problems they have to feel good about yesterday considering what happened to Ole Miss.
UF seems mostly good, but they need a Center who can snap the freaking ball. If they don’t get that fixed (and I imagine they will, at least mostly) before we play them, they’re in for a world of hurt.
I think UGA has a lot of potential to win the east this year. They looked very good without their best receiver, and their defense looked better than USC’s.
The west looks like ours for the taking. Honestly the only team I was impressed with in the west (other than us) was MSU. And they’re MSU.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
root*
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's just see how this plays out
It’s too early for anything to be anything. Maybe the SEC is weaker or maybe this week was a statistical outlier.
"That rug really tied the room together."
Obviously it's just the first game
and it’s hard to characterize anything with a sample size of 1. But given the months and months of prognosticating with NO games to look at, I think we’re still in a better position to guess at what’s going on after seeing actual games.
But I do think things will sort out a little differently once conference play starts. The unimpressive teams (other than Ole Miss – their season is just in the dump) still have time to make adjustments.
"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath
by billycthulhu on Sep 5, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing about Nutt teams
Is they can look godawful against teams they should beat, but every year or two he pulls some miracle win out of his butt. I just pray to God that it ain’t us this year.
"That rug really tied the room together."
by pantsfucious on Sep 5, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I predict Ole Miss
will rebound and beat Tulane, Fresno, Vandy & UK and come to Bama off a bye week at 4-1. We will destroy them, but they still end 6-6 and go to a bowl.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
I went to the papajohns.com bowl last year....
….and our seats were right behind the UConn section, but it was mostly just locals (lot of Alabama and Auburn hats) who had gone to the game ‘cause “hey, football.” I wasn’t wearing anything team related, but the guy next to me was wearing an Alabama shirt and since I was rooting for UConn the whole game he assumed I was a UConn fan and asked me if I had come down for the game. He was very surprised when I said “no, I’m from here, I’m an Alabama fan” and wanted to know why I wasn’t rooting for the SEC and I told him "fuck the SEC, when we beat Texas they’ll be out chanting S-E-C! S-E-C! like they had something to do with it, but if we lose they’ll be pointing and laughing and telling us “stupid bammers the Bear is dead”! He just laughed and was like “yeah, probably” and started pulling for UConn. So yeah, the rest of the conference can suck on my butt if they think I am going to root for their team just because they are on our schedule a lot.
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Agreed.
As a general rule, I want SEC teams to succeed because it continues the strength of the conference and our overall domination of other conferences. However, there are some teams that, no matter what their conferences affiliation, I wouldn’t root for if I had a gun to my head. (Here’s looking at you, Tennessee.)
I don't root for Auburn, ever.
Tennessee is currently serving it’s time in the karmic penalty box, but I don’t automatically cheer against them anymore now that Fulmer and Kiffykins are gone. …though it would help if they didn’t wear that throwup orange.
But yeah, I generally cheer for Bama’s SOS. So I cheer for SEC teams that we do play over SEC teams that we don’t play. (Unless it’s a SECW team that we need to lose for us to get to ATL.) And I generally cheer for SEC against non-conference teams.
If I'm wearing a turban, it means Auburn is playing Iraq.
Agreed.
Here are the SEC teams I actually root for: UK, Vandy, and MSU.
I am always against AU, UT, UF, and LSU.
Ole Miss I’m starting to hate more.
SC, UGA, and Arky I may or may not be against depending on who they are playing. But I certaintly don’t mind of the lose.
This rah, rah SEC means nothing to me.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
my dad is
a huge UK fan, so i always pull them when we aren’t playin. I have little against UGA. Anyone who hates auburn, UF and UT as much as we do is alright in my book. The rest can go to hell in a hand basket.
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You are right
the best thing about UGA is they hate AU, UT & UF.
The worst things about UGA is that: 1. They always think they are better than they are. Right now my UGA friends think they are the best in the east and about #5 in the land. 2. They pulled that black out junk against us- I just find it bush league. 3. If you ever lose to them they will rag you for weeks. Act like you have been there before Georgia.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
the SEC is still the best conference out there
some of the teams are down, but others are on the way up. so the team most people had picked to finish last in the west pissed away a game to j’vill state. so what? kanasas lost to n dakota state. does that make the big 12 inherently awful too?
i think we could see USC and Georgia step it up this season, along with miss state and arkansas in the west. kentucky looks like another solid team who can beat any team in the conference and looks like a lock to win the music city bowl.
anyway, some of the more recent powers may be weaker this year (florida and lsu) but plenty of other teams are solid and could win 10 games and look to breeze through their OOC schedules ( GA, USC, UK, MSU, Arkansas)
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Really, what do we know?
We know, as of now, the following:
West
1.We know Cam Newton is probably pretty damned good, but Auburn’s defense is still teh suxors.
2. We know Ole Miss has a lot, lot, lot of problems, and they don’t just involve talent, opposition, or incredibly shitty in-game adjustments. It just seems that Nutt always brings the circus to town, and this team could implode or rally around him according to caprice. We also know that Stanley is probably a more capable player in that system right now than Masoli.
3. We know that Mississippi State can’t be taken for granted, especially on offense, as if they ever were. Year one to year two will show big gains, as Mullen has recruited well, and is cobbling together a 7-5ish, silly putty n duct tape team wit the talent on-hand
4. We know that LSUs biggest assets are three-fold, but they are all between the ears: Sanders, Crowton and Miles. Tenative, bone-headed, lacking adjustments, stubborn. All three fit this bill, and it shows with their team’s lack of play in the second half.
5. We know plenty about us: enough to scare us in some areas, reassure us in others, and just downright make us giddy in still others.
6. We know Arkansas has Ryan Mallet and an untested quantity on defense.
East
1. We know that UF has some problems on the o line, and with injuries to the secondary, can be burned through the air. We also know that Addazio/Urbz’s system has no running game unless it is directed through the QB (see also, 2006). We also know that the new kids have headcases amongst them, but that UF has some of the best talent in the country.
2. We know that South Carolina is doing their typical flirt with greatness we’ve become accustomed to under Spurrier. We also know that Garcia (surely) has to get better after 17 years in the sytem, and that Alshon is a beast. What we don’t know is how well this team fares both down the stretch and against teams with a defensive pulse.
3. Which brings us to Georgia. We know that Georgia has a potent 1-2-3 at WR/RBs, and the leagues’ best O line. We don’t know whether the 3-4 debut of Grantham was smoke and mirrors. The Sun Belt isn’t the best forum to test that. And, I dare say, after next week — irrespective of outcome — that we still won’t know much about UGA-So.Car, except that one lost.
4. Kentucky: We know that Randall Cobb is one of the coolest players in all of the SEC and a true weapon no matter the position. We know that they beat a Strong team which played with more of a pulse than any time in the last two years. Other than that, we don’t know much about these guys.
5. Tennessee: I submit, based on the stat sheet and offseason lurking, that UT still has problems at QB, that the O line is still not very good, that a 100+ yard game by a RB against a bad 1-AA team does not a world beater make. We also know that there are key losses on the Dline, LB and — of course — secondary. However, this is the second year under the new offensive staff, so those gains, against East Popcorn State could be purely illusory (see So. Carolina above).
6. Norman is great. Norman is hurt. Vandy sucks, but still played NW as closely as Auburn did. So, either an improvement under Caldwell, or Auburn really, really friggin’ stinks.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:05 PM CDT reply actions
This was all a long way of saying
1. As Kleph did: the top looks very, very much like the top. It is a gentrified conference.
2. The “have nots” seem to be diminishing somewhat and/or improving. But, lord, are they bad, such as they exist.
3. The “middle class” is a crowded one. If I put a gun to your head and said: “Arkansas or Georgia”, could you make a case that’s not equally strong on the other side? Ditto “South Carolina or Auburn”, etc.
/.: I see it pretty much the same as 08-09 for now…
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you nailed
most of it. I’m sorry but I’m not convinced Newton is the next Tebow. I do believe that this time around all the teams whose D-cordinators coached against Auburn last year will do a much better job defensing them this year. In other words the tricked up offense worked once because they weren’t sure how to defend it, but now they will have better schemes. This will commence this Thursday night.
Against Arky St. it was just a case of better athletes, and Newton is an athlete, but play a team with linebackers that can run with him and it will be different. And maybe the reason Auburn is so stinking high on him is because in practice he is playing a defense that is not too much better than Arky St.
UK could be decent.
As much as I hate Auburn I hate Tenn. that much more.
UK could be decent...
Joker looks a lot more relaxed than I imagined (against a pretty game archrival no less). Jury’s out on Newton; he has talent to burn; god does he. But, is that a function of Arkansas State? We shall see…I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt though…he was, after all, the Gators new shiny toy to go with Tebow.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 5, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the sec needs to be strong...
I will gladly boast the SEC is the toughest conference, win or lose. But I do not inherently root for anyone…only the tide. The SEC needs to stay stong, however, so that we can keep the pundits at bay and send the SEC to BCS championship every year that is possible…or else they will start sending the Boises and TCUs every year.
Not that there is anything against those teams, but playing 8 to 10 ‘SJSUs’ per year should not write your ticket to the show. Until they play some stout competition year in and year out, Boise and Co. should be happy in any ‘other’ BCS game they land.
I wish Boise and TCU (or was it BYU) could have played Florida or a top tier ACC team last bowl season…and not each other. That would give them more credit for me.
Boise should play a home and home with Auburn…Since both teams are so fond of “creative” offensive schemes.
Tigers Hide and rooooll that TIDE!

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