Dee Hart
by Destindune on Dec 15, 2011 10:12 AM CST
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So I have heard it said that the BCS championship game is in essence a one game season. I tend to agree with it. I feel the team we field as well as LSU will be pretty different from what was seen during the regular season. Anyone else hoping the defense is practicing the option play everyday?
With that said how do y'all feel about seeing Dee Hart in this game? I think it may be a very good possibility IF and only IF he is completely healthy. I was at A-day and it was obvious this young man was going to be a major part of the offense this year.
So for some good "dead period" conversation what do you think of the Dee Hart possibility and what other wrinkles do you think we could see?
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Ehh, doubt it.
I personally am not intrested in wasting his redshirt thingy, unless he’s absolutely needed.
I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!
After missing an entire season...
I’m not sure this is the game in which we want him to get his feet wet.
It worked for Clint Moseley.
Oh wait…
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
NO
Unless the other 4 (including Sims) gets hurt in the game.
As far as other wrinkles I think we may get tricky with Trent in the wildcat. If memory serves, for the past few years when our #1 tailback lines up in wild cat that person (Mark or Trent) runs the ball. I could see this changing.
Make their ass quit
This worries me
… since, apparently, a defender can simply take the ball away from our receiver with his butt, back, and shoulder on the ground and have it called an “interception.”
Anyway, if we had strayed away from “trick” plays and simply pounded the ball when we got into scoring position back in November, we wouldn’t have lost yards and missed those first three field goals.
Dr. BamaFrazier is IN!
by BamaFrazier on Dec 15, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it?
Tired of hearing excuses from our fans about that interception. If a 6’6 TE can’t come down with the ball against a 6’1 safety then he didn’t deserve it.
It’s funny how fans criticize a call like that. If it would have worked you’d say it was an amazing call. Unfortunately, that didn’t happen. Maybe you should put your name in the hat for OC.
by HuntsVegasRandya on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm tired of hearing...
our TE’s measurables. His height & weight really are irrelevant to whether it was the correct call or not.
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Dec 15, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
and it wasn't
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, but it was.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Tie goes to receiver...
Shoulder touched with possession.
Not sure what you’re seeing.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Beating a dead horse
No one could see exactly what happened beacuse the ball was not visible as he made contact with the ground; therefore, trying to guess who had possession is like guessing how many times Les has tickled his throat with grass.
I understand that we all wanted the call to go the otherway. Thing is, it didn’t.
Everytime I read things like this it reminds me of Texas fans saying,
“Well. What if……” <—-for the original post, not any replies
by HuntsVegasRandya on Dec 15, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
Well...
There are a couple pics floating around that prove your statement wrong (I don’t have access to those at the moment..stupid work computer)
beacuse the ball was not visible as he made contact with the ground
I, personally, am not making ‘cold mccoy’ excuses, but a bad call is a bad call. Regardless of the outcome. Yes, the bad call was made and yes the call (and game) went in the way that we didn’t want it to, but it still doesn’t mean it was a good call just because it went LSU’s way. In fact, even if that call went “our way” it still doesn’t mean LSU loses, they would have taken more shots (since they would have had to loosen up some) and you never know how it works out. Again, though, a bad call is a bad call.
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Dyslexia attack in 5-4-3-1-2...
I would thoroughly enjoy seeing those pics so I could eat my words.
I wanted the call to be over-turned but again, IMO, I couldn’t tell.
If only I had a 55’’ 3D tv I could have seen something different….what if…..
by HuntsVegasRandya on Dec 15, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair
…I’m sure the replay refs only get so many angles so, to your point, maybe they didn’t get a good view of the catch. As I wasn’t near my TV either, I didn’t get a good look until after the game. I was giving benefit of the doubt until I saw the pics.
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Here you go...
"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."
What the still picture doesn't show
is that, although Williams had both hands on the ball, the ball was moving in his hands BEFORE he hit the ground.
yep
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
Make its ass quit -TWEsq, concerning my fight against Multiple Sclerosis
by AlabamaJammer on Dec 18, 2011 6:45 AM CST up reply actions
grr...
…if you notice the picture, his knuckles of his right hand have the ball. That’s because before his butt hit the ground the ball was being contested and possession was lost.
Watch the slow motion showing the fight for the ball and have it timed with the butt video. You’ll see what the ref’s saw to make the right call.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
Make its ass quit -TWEsq, concerning my fight against Multiple Sclerosis
by AlabamaJammer on Dec 18, 2011 6:47 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, you not only have to HAVE possession at the instant that you hit the ground,
you have to MAINTAIN possession. This call is not difficult.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Well...
not to beat a dead horse, but wouldn’t that raise a question as to possession, & if there is, the benefit of the doubt goes to the receiver.
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Dec 15, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
yep
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
You have to maintain possession through contact with the ground.
When his back hit, the ball popped loose. Unfortunately it popped into LSU’s hands instead of onto the ground.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I agree.
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Not entirely correct...
….if we would have landed that play i would have been extremely happy, but also would have known we got away with one. Trent had just pounded out three beautiful runs, LSU’s D was reeling and tired. That was Trent’s Heisman moment and we put the ball in the hands of WR to throw a pass. Not a great call by anyone’s standards.
I disagree
We got stuffed trying to predictably run the whole game. Big losses on running plays when LSU run-blitzed on predictable running downs was our biggest offensive problem the whole game. Four of our possessions were stopped exactly that way.
By that time, it was clear we were having trouble moving the ball once we got down around their 30. Try something. Be aggressive. I loved the play call, and oh by the way, that was BY FAR the closest we came to an offensive TD all night long.
by glen55 on Dec 16, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In other news, Oswald was the lone assassin, the Titanic sunk, and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead...
Old timers will get that last one…others ask your grandpa…
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Dear Sir
YOU HAVE NO PROOF for ANY of that… Well, except the Titanic. Leonardo Dicaprio made a documentary and showed us what happened that night.
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Overrated.
Titanicis good only for a Blockbuster date, and only once.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 15, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
One scores better than none
Right?
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
I never said it was a 'good' documentary
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Titanic a good date flick?
My GF at the time cried her eyes out and I was howling laughing when Leo’s no-talent-having-ass sunk into the abyss to be dined on by Giant Squid. I got better-laid when I took a chick to see Rooftops.
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 15, 2011 9:15 PM CST up reply actions
I have really started to respect Leo as an actor.
See: Shutter Island, Inception, Blood Diamond (or whatever that movie’s called).
Thirteen.
by Darth Saban on Dec 17, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry Darth, but challenging roles truly expose those who don't possess the necessary range.
And when Sorcese’s new pet fashions a foreign accent, he makes a complete ass of himself as well as the dying profession of character acting.
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 18, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
I thought his Rhodesian accent was pretty convincing.
Arguing over this man’s acting talents is kind of like arguing over whether impressionism or cubism is the best art. Some people like red (or crimson, at least). Some people like blue. Deep down, no one really likes orange, though.
Thirteen.
Agreed
He may not be DeNiro, but he ain’tt as bad as some. Catch me if You Can with Tom Hanks was pretty good, as was he in it. Gangs of New York also. The Aviator….
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Silly man...
Leo had a magic bullet that he got from Oswald to sink the Titanic with, and Franco was on the passenger manifest.
You can look it up…
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
In
What’s Eating Gilbert Grape? I didn’t realize he was a professional actor. He was that good. Then he became the GEN X poster boy and I lost interest. After Gangs of New York City, I’ve been a believer. Meanwhile, in Titanic, Billy Zane’s character is so badly written.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 17, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
Gangs of New York was shit in a golden chalice.
A brilliant cast — including Brendan Gleeson, Jim Broadbent, John C. Reilly, Liam Neeson and Daniel Day Lewis — was almost completely wasted by headlining them with overrated box office darlings DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz. The aforementioned supporting cast were so terrific, I almost felt embarrassed for those two brats… almost.
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 18, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
Get those kids off your lawn! :-)
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Hush yer mouth, devil woman!
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 20, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Pass. Now, the British lady (Lucy Punch) in that Bad Teacher movie... WOW.
I can’t even speak in coherent sentences about her.
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 20, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Billy Zane is just a big ol' hunk of ham...
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Whatever a golve is, apparently one turns it inside-out with ease...
a shall I with thee!!!
Thirteen.
Damn...
if I told thee I was posting with a smartphone, wouldst thou believe me and grant me pardon?
Thirteen.
Yse.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 18, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions
Billy Zane is great.
But his character in Titanicis embarrassingly bad. The thing is a disaster film with no one dying would be boring. So there has to be one a-hole we feel good about seeing them die. And Zane’s character was 2-D, cardboard.
The irony that his death happens much later, a suicide after the Stock Market Crash, and Zane’s talent, can’t save the character’s lack of depth.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 18, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
When I think of Billy Zane..
…I think of Dead Calm, with a pre-Cruise Nicole Kidman
"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban
Great film.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 18, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone hear the rumor that Billy Z is slated to play Pawl Fineburm in the film "PAAAAAWWWWWL! Them Cheat'n Bammrzizatit Uh-gee-yun!"
Supposedly Charles Laughton’s body is being exhumed from the grave to play Phil Fulmer. Looks like a pretty interesting flick.
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 20, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Or maybe even...
(gasp!) put Trent and Eddie in at the same time. I know that might create a tear in the space-time continuum, but this is the NC game.
This is what I was thinking
One handing off to the other or a speed sweep with Maze
Make their ass quit
No need to get that fancy
Having them both in the backfield at the same time will cause enough of a wrinkle to confuse the defense.
by ApothecaryMark on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
I also think it would be a good change of pace to line up in the I on a short-yardage situation with Fowler at FB.
arrrggghhhh
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
Old school Full House backfield with Richardson, Lacy, and Fowler?
Oh lawd, now I need a new pair of shorts…
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success" - Coach Bryant
Hows about a backfield set with
Richardson, Lacy, Fowler, Bobby Humphrey and the nacho guy! Fock yeee-uuuh!
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by TiderUpNorth on Dec 15, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
ok i'm gonna take this to the big extreme..dunno if this is illegal..
maybe someone can tell me, probably illegal formation..but .. the SUPER I-formation.. AJ at QB then Fowler, Lacey, Richardson lined up behind him(not exactly in that formation)..is that legal? that would put 4 players in the back-field and everyone else up on the line..
Well
you need seven men on the line to have a legal formation. Your proposal puts four in the backfield. There are 11 total players on offense.
You do the math.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
It is legal.
Everyone else needs to be on the line of scrimmage, but it is a legal formation. Kind of like the Wing-T (as he mentined), or the Wishbone, or the Power I, or the Flexbone, or any formation that has four players in the backfield.
Thirteen.
Congrats.
You did the math.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I did menny maths....
buyt not all.
Thirteen.
by Darth Saban on Dec 17, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
Better than doing manny meths!
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
I'd like to...
…‘cause she doesn’t shave her legs or her pits and always wears corduroy….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 16, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
FTMFW!
Almost spilt my drink on that one!
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Sounds great. I can’t watch the games,
but I assume we’re mostly Ace, and when we go I Form, we have a fullback. Would that be Fowler?
I hope we get Chryst and we use more 2-back sets.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 18, 2011 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
Two words...
Duron Carter. My understanding, as far as the whole redshirt “thingy” goes, is that January is part of next year and doesn’t affect this year’s status. If that is correct, I see no reason he shouldn’t be on the field on January 9th, assuming he passed all his classes this fall.
oh, lord, please.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 15, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
That's three.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
a$$ hole....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 16, 2011 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
I thought it was possible that he'd be eligible
but I’m pretty sure he’d have to burn a redshirt to participate. If you didn’t lose a redshirt by participating in a January bowl, it seems like we’d see a few guys for the first time in the bowl game every year. Hope you’re right though.
No, if he plays in the NC game it burns the redshirt
In 09 Saban said he’d burn AJ’s redshirt if McElroy got hurt in the NC game
by MDB Tide Roll on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Spoke too soon...
I went back and looked at the eligibility rules. Post-season play does count against a red-shirt season. For some reason I had gotten it in my mind that they had changed this when they changed the academic requirements for the fall (requiring 9 semester hours).
Alas, we could have really used the presence of a big-bodied, experienced wide receiver in this game. I guess we’ll just have to find another way. Burning a year when you only have two remaining doesn’t make sense even when you’re playing for all the marbles.
Fixed
Alas, we could have really used the presence of a big-bodied, experienced wide receiverin this game.all freaking year
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 15, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Given the choice
I’d rather see a 100% Eddie Lacy than Dee Hart, though it would be nice to have both. Wish we had Cyrus K too, he’d be nice to have available for short yardage power formations.
Duron Carter in BCS title game? Long shot. Dee Hart? I seriously doubt it.
Then again, we went away from the Pistol offense in ‘09, probably for most of the last 6-7 weeks of the season. Then we used it heavily to beat TX. And with 35 or so days to prepare, TX still didn’t seem prepared for it.
I’m praying for a fully healthy O line, then a 100% Eddie Lacy. Wow, it’s a long time till 1/9…
I say we spread the bastards out
then run it up the gut. Maze and Lacy should have good wheels by then, which will certainly help. Just like last time, this one could go either way and will very likely go to the wire.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Pointed out by somebody on another thread, but
LSU really hurt us with TFLs at some key points before. No reason to expect they’ll approach this game much differently when Trent’s in the backfield. Chavis may try to disguise it some, but expect another heavy dose of run blitzes and defenders trying to fill every gap on 1st and 2nd down.
Success on early downs – we gotta have it consistently…
Like I said
spread ’em out and run up the middle. Tough to run blitz when you only have two LBs in the game and the CBs are forced to play wide.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
…except that ain’t our DNA.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
Make its ass quit -TWEsq, concerning my fight against Multiple Sclerosis
by AlabamaJammer on Dec 15, 2011 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
We have.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Re-read your comment. Took your “spread em” to mean running the spread. Yes, we’ve spread teams out a little, but not with four wide for the whole game.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
Make its ass quit -TWEsq, concerning my fight against Multiple Sclerosis
by AlabamaJammer on Dec 16, 2011 5:19 AM CST up reply actions
Three wide would be enough
to keep ’em in nickel.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
We did a great job
of spreading PSU out early in the year. Not sure why we kind of abandoned it, tho.
"...because you've got your mind right, and that's the way we like it." Nick Saban
I listened to most of that game in the car...
…but we’re talking our single back, single tight end, three wide with the tight end split out (and empty backfield variety too, but we don’t want AJ running), so it’s standard personnel with just a wider split.
I would love to see how LSU reacts for a series with the 4 WR and 1 TE/1RB rotating in, honestly. But I’ll be damned if I want us to move that direction as a offensive mindset.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
Make its ass quit -TWEsq, concerning my fight against Multiple Sclerosis
by AlabamaJammer on Dec 18, 2011 6:44 AM CST up reply actions
Not a good idea.
BCSCG not the best time for a guy who’s green. And what a waste, burning a redshirt. Ditto for Duron.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 15, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions
One thing everyone seems to have forgotten
There is a decent chance Hart intends on transfering. He left the team once already, and might be just playing out the string to have the grades.
Ummm, no.
He’ll be a feature back next year. You don’t keep a guy with that speed, quickness, vision, and hands on the bench. He’ll get well over 40% of the snaps.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
um no
ACL tears take generally speaking two years to really recover full speed. Again, he also left the team once, said he wanted to transfer, and may well have only come back to finish the semester and get the grades. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he didn’t show up for next semester.
by BamaThrasher on Dec 16, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
a leave of absence
to deal with personal stuff isn’t exactly leaving the team. I suspect he’ll stay.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
So, if you're Duron...
do you lobby the coaching staff to go ahead and burn your redshirt and put you in the NC? I must say, I’d probably be down there every day screaming, “Put me in, coach!”
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Dec 15, 2011 5:15 PM CST reply actions
RE: Duron: yeah dont care about the RS..
we likely aren’t winning the BCSNC next year..I mean unless a completely rebuilt Line Backing and Defensive back field rise to the occasion..Regardless..I say if he can play and be a major factor im all for it.
Follow on twitter @thelyell
But we could win it his RS Senior year.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Agreed
but just saying that not burning the redshirt could pay off.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Agreed.
And do we even know if he’s eligible yet?? Why is this even a discussion? If he could play and we wanted him to play, wouldn’t he have already been playing?
God bless our Dark Lord.
We don't need to burn any redshirts.
We’re better than lsu as it is. Alabama will have a ’92 edge to them going in as well.
by Brad Bowen on Dec 15, 2011 7:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
All this stuff is crazy.
Listen we lost the 1st game by making a crazy call (Maze throwing the ball like no one had seen that coming.)
This time we will play our game and if we dominate we will win. But we are not using Hart or Carter. You dance with the one who brung you and that ain’t Hart or Carter. In 09 Saban toyed with playing AJ and losing a red shirt year…but he was #2 and #1 was actually hurt. No one in front of Hart or Carter is hurt. They got us here let them have their chance.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Well Lacey has been hurt.
Hopefully he’ll be 100% by 1/9. If so, then i agree that I can’t see us playing Hart.
One question though: Is Hart actually going to stay for 5 years? If not, then there’s no reason to worry about redshirting him.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Given how hard it is to get into the championship game...
If the coaches think any of these players significantly improve the chances of winning the game, they would be foolish not to play them. Redshirts be dammed.
"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."
That's absolutely true
Hart and Carter won’t play, but it has nothing to do with a redshirt. Hart won’t play because he won’t help the team. Carter won’t play because he won’t help the team (and even if he would, he won’t be eligible, right?).
Isn't Titus Ryan eligible?
This one has to win the Silly Thread Award. Dee Hart, Duron Carter AND re-hashing the Maze-to-Williams throw for the lebemty billionth time.
I’ve got an idea. Let’s line up our damn good team, the one we’ve already got, and beat the hell out of LSU at football.
TIE GOES TO RECEIVER!!!!
That is all.
But yes, we are the better team. We were the better team on 11/5 and will be so on 1/9. I have no idea why the hell people think LSU is a team of invincibility or destiny. We kicked their ass up and down the field, and then got cute instead of playing field position ball (e.g., 4 long FG attempts)
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Except for the ugly ties...
Nobody wants an ugly tie…
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Not to be a huge douche nozzle (but I can't help it)
The NCAA rules on “simultaneous catch”,(Rule 2-4-4 on page 32), refers back to possession which is defined as, inter alia, whan a player “secures the ball firmly by holding or controlling it while contacting the ground inbounds.” (Rule 2-4-1 on pages 31- 32). So in order for there to be a simultaneous catch, both players must possess (not merely touch) the ball simultaneously. The closest Approved Ruling to this situation is A.R. 7-3-6-II (on page 163). That ruling states that when two opposing players receive a ball while both are off the ground, and one player returns to the ground inbounds before the other, that it is not a simultaneous catch but a catch of who returns to the ground first. Not only did Williams bobble the ball while going to the ground (losing possession) but Claiborne clearly touches the ground first. As much as I hate it, the refs got the call right.
Williams shoulder touched the ground first.
I am not disagreeing with the rule, just the factual perception of the event.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
Or, more specfically
maybe his ass hit beforehand
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Dec 16, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
Seems like both asses hit simultaneously--
though not the same way as in Requiem for a Dream.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 16, 2011 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
I love that movie.
What was it about again?
Thirteen.
by Darth Saban on Dec 17, 2011 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Addiction.
The characters to drugs and me to Jennifer Connelly.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Dec 18, 2011 2:41 AM CST up reply actions
But both of Claiborne’s feet hit the ground before any part of Williams does. He’s got one hand on the ball at that point. So if we are going to go with the simultaneous catch and disregard that the ball is bobbled, I’d say it’s Claiborne’s because his feet touched first.
I should say Reid. I don’t know what I had it in my head that it’s Claiborne. Maybe because it was such a good play that I assumed it had to be Claiborne.
Slowly banging head against wall...
Dead horse beaten into dog food…..
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
And put the glue on Williams' gloves!
Now you’re talkin’!
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Well, there it is folks.
Credible information.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Rehab must not be his cup of tea...
Naturally superior athletes sometimes are surprised when they are not able to perform at a high level without a tremendous effort. And they don’t handle it well.
I think that’s one reason Bryant preferred the scrappers instead of the superstars. He knew he could “coach’em up”. The stars didn’t want to work as hard and felt they could coast by on their natural ability.
Either that, or Scott Cochran stuck his foot up his ass, and they’re still trying to have it surgically removed.
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
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