Stop With All The BCS Hate
by bammer on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 AM CST
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PrintThis post isn't pointed at Bama fans or the RBR faithful who hate the BCS, it's meant however for all those people who think what happened to Okie St is the BCS's fault. Let me say this first, I think Okie St has a very valid point and should be pissed. I know Bama fans would be outraged had we been jumped. OSU had, for their standards, a very good season. In fact, it was their best season ever. So it's understandable that they would be upset at the fact they didn't get a shot at playing for all the marbles. But under the current system, there is no place for a team who loses to an unranked team who goes 3-6 in conference. Sorry OSU, thems the rules. Lets not forget that Michigan got jumped by Florida after losing to Ohio St. I believe this was one of the deciding factors on why Bama was eventually not jumped by OSU.
Truth is Alabama or OSU for that matter, never should have been in the mix last night. We should have been somewhere in the #4-#6 ranking. Why? We lost a game. If Oregon, Stanford, Boise, and even you OSU wanted a shot at LSU y'all should have held serve. Fact is you had your chance and blew it. Don't be mad at Alabama for winning the rest of our games and doing what we needed to do get our shot. Hate it? So sorry, don't lose to Iowa St, USC or Oregon at home by 2 TD's. You knew what was at stake at the beginning of the season, last season and the 10 before that. It’s the BCS..
Let's talk about that for a second. Teams like Auburn, Michigan, Okie St and others can say the BCS is flawed and needs to be burned all they want but for all the short comings of the BCS, its not much different than the system we had before it. And I would argue it's actually better. The AP (Yes a group of totally 100% biased reporters) decided who the National Champion was prior to the BCS. And how many times in the 40+ year reign of the AP did they screw up? Off the top of my head I'd say about +10 and it’s probably much more. I was born in 1982 and those 10 are the ones I can remember. I'm sure the older readership here can point to more. So for starters we can stop with the hate for the BCS cause it is actually an improvement over its predecessor.
CarrotTop4 pointed out today exact why the BCS is better than the AP..
Second, I definitely don’t think the computers should be dropped. They give the process some objectivity which the voters sorely lack at times. The computers actually look at all the games while the voters don’t
Yesterday was a nerve racking day for a lot of reasons but I was most concerned over one thing..The fact that voters might/would/could forget the OSU loss to ISU, remember the win against OU all the while remembering the Bama loss to LSU but forgetting our win against Arky. That alone is why I at least believe the BCS to be better than the AP. Like CarrotTop4 said, the BCS has an unbiased aspect that the AP simply does not have.
Bamapride pointed out this morning why we need a +1 format and how the BCS can play a part. Kirk Herbstreit also stated last night immediately following the release of the BCS top 10, how a +1 can not only keep the sanctity of the BCS bowls, the importance of the regular season and at the same time give the people what it wants. A PLAYOFF.
Here's another reason why OSU fans can't blame the BCS. Their own conference commissioner struck down a proposal by the SEC, ACC and others to implement a +1 system. So sorry OSU, go riot your own conference and stop blaming everyone else. The SEC stepped up to the plate and the Big 12, the Big 10 and Pac 12 cowered at the idea.
So to sum up, it's not the BCS's fault that OSU and others have been left out of the National Championship game. Yes, the BCS needs to be tweaked and a +1 format needs to be implemented but placing the blame solely on the shoulders of the BCS is not the answer. I’ll let someone who is much smarter than me figure all that out but for now, I will enjoy gulping down the tears of all the butt hurt teams who couldn’t hold serve…
Roll Tide and on to #14!
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I have no problem
with folks complaining about the BCS when their team went undefeated in a legit conference and they got left out of the title game. I don’t agree that a playoff would be better, but at least they have some ground to stand on. I do have a problem with ANY one or more loss team complaining about being left out. Even if Okie St. had jumped us, we could talk all we wanted to about schedule strength and being undefeated in regulation, etc., but the fact is, we would have blown our chance by losing to LSU, period. I’m glad things worked out the way they did, but there would have been no grounds to be bitter (ok, maybe a just a little winey) had it gone the other way.
I agree with you and CarrotTop about the computers’ objectivity. That’s a major improvement over the AP. Good writeup.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions
Thanks. There is no perfect answer for college football.
Can’t do a 8 team playoff cause teams who have no business being in the mix would get a shot. Obviously can’t do 16 cause that would be down right retarded. The current system works but needs some tweaking.
A +1 works 90% of the time and thats good for me. These are the top 4 seeds at week 15 from 2005 to 2011
2005
1 Texas 13-0
2 USC 12-1
3 Penn State 11-1
4 Ohio State 10-2
2006
1 Ohio State 12-0
2 Florida 12-1
3 Michigan 11-1
4 LSU 10-2
2007-
1 Ohio State 11-1
2 LSU 11-2
3 Virginia Tech 11-2
4 Oklahoma 11-2
2008
1 Oklahoma 12-1
2 Florida 12-1
3 Texas 11-1
4 Alabama 12-1
(#5 is a 11-1 USC and #6 is a 12-0 Utah)
2009
1 Alabama 13-0
2 Texas 13-0
3 Cincinnati 12-0
4 TCU 12-0
- 13-0 Boise
2010
1 Auburn 13-0
2 Oregon 12-0
3 TCU 12-0
4 Stanford 11-1
(two other 11-1 teams behind stanford)
2011
1 LSU 13-0
2 Alabama 11-1
3 Oklahoma State 11-1
4 Stanford 11-1
Looking at that it seems like a +1 format works pretty well. Yes people could bitch a couple of those years but for the most part it would work. Once you get past #4 most of the time you get into 2 loss teams..
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by bammer on Dec 5, 2011 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd definitely watch CFB if there was a +1.
I’m not convinced it’s the best thing, but it wouldn’t be bad TV. The logistical problems, combined with the fact that I really don’t see anything too terribly broken with what we currently have make me wary of it, but it would certainly provide some interesting matchups.
Guess what every year you listed has in common, except 2009 and 2010? Yep! All the argument centered around which one-loss team should go. Again, I say if a team loses a game, they have no grounds upon which to complain if they don’t get selected to go the NC. And in ‘09 and ’10, I think even the fanbases of Cincinnati, TCU, and Boise even have a hard time honestly arguing that their teams were one of the two best in CFB those years. I just don’t see anything so terribly wrong with what we’ve got that we need to change anything, and if it’s just to shut up the whiners, I say we just let ’em whine.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Dec 5, 2011 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
I agree a +1 would work pretty well
I actually wouldn’t mind an 8 team playoff, maybe 6 conference champions plus two wild-cards, but I can see your point about teams that don’t really deserve it, because there’s a lot more disparity between the great teams and the just good teams in college than there is in professional sports, e.g., the NFL (I know people say their playoff is too big, but I think it works pretty damn well).
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by billycthulhu on Dec 5, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Undeserving teams getting in is not a big problem
Deserving teams getting left out IS a big problem.
I feel for ‘em in Stillwater, and I’d feel for ‘em in Palo Alto if not for the fact that I’ve lived in Palo Alto and know they don’t give a damn. It really really really really really really really really sucks to deserve to get in and have to sit on the sidelines and watch. If you can remember 1966 and 1977, you know what I’m talking about. It’s about justice.
That’s why 4 isn’t enough. It’s not at all unusual for their to be more than 4 legit contenders, as you can see from your list. I can tell you for sure there were more than 4 teams that could’ve been in a playoff in 2007-2010.
4 is plenty enough.If a Boise or some other shitty teams gets left out
every other year then im fine with that. And I agree that a team getting left out is a problem but thats why winning all your games is important. if there is an undefeated team from the SEC, Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12 then you have the perfect playoff. Sorry ACC and Big East… Your conference is so shitty no one cares if you get left out. IF you have one undefeated and 5 one loss teams, 3 get in and the two weakest are left out. Sorry but obviously your loss is worse than the others.
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You may be fine with it
But I guarantee you that the teams who are left out will not be fine with it. Why not have enough teams in the playoff to get all the deserving teams?
By the way, you said it would work 80% of the team, but it wouldn’t have worked a single time 2007-2010 if you’re trying to get all the deserving teams in. An 8-team playoff would work 100% of the time or damned close to it.
I still think if you're not in the top 4 then you don't deserve a shot at the NC.
But 6 teams would be interesting because it would give the top 2 a bye, thus making seeding (and the regular season) significantly more important.
God bless our Dark Lord.
I do think seeding, home-field, and byes are important
To keep incentives there for continuing to win in the regular season even if you feel you’ve locked up a playoff spot.
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…just like the 69th team in the NCAA basketball bitches about being left out.
Lets just do some ladder system so once you lose a game you’re out of the year. No more of this silly loss affecting your chances. It’s just losses baby.
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by AlabamaJammer on Dec 6, 2011 6:21 AM CST up reply actions
But nobody cares about #69 (sic) not getting int
The point is to get in all the DESERVING teams, not to get in all the teams. If a team—like OSU this year—deserves it, it’s a damn shame they get left out.
Well #69 cares,
but nobody argues that they were cheated out of a shot at the national championship.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Well yeah
I was upset that we weren’t included in the tournament last year, but it’s not like I thought we had a chance to win it, or that I thought they should expand it (again) because we were left out.
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by billycthulhu on Dec 6, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
AU in 2004 is still the better example.
I hate those boogs, but I’ve been for the +1 idea ever since then.
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Well, technically, a lot of teams below #69 make it.
Because of automatic bids. Your last at-large team is generally ranked somewhere around 50, iirc.
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by SoGladILeftTheACC on Dec 6, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Good post..
That’s why I’m loving this scenario. Yes we have had precedence before, but 2004 (sorry Aubies) had a bit of context that dealt with historical bias from a shellacking they received from USC in the previous year.
The thing about this year is the fact that it’s the perfect storm. Just think about it for a second:
1) SEC goes on an unprecedented run of BCS titles leaving egos badly bruised from other once prominent conferences.
2) Several teams get a 1 loss on their “Body of work” this year, coupled with the fact that the SEC not only goes to the big show again – but an unprecedented 2 SEC teams lock every other conference out.
If there ever was an opportunity for implementnig a +1, this year has the be the biggest catalys for change. That’s why I believe there’s a very strong probability that the +1 gets approved.
If this happens, I truly believe it will only increase our chances of owning more BCS titles as I would predict we get more teams (2 of the 4) than the other conferences in those top 4 spots.
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
tl;dr
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
You know I'm just messin'
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I was gonna do it,
but then he quoted me and it suddenly became a brilliant post! ;)
God bless our Dark Lord.
what does this mean?
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
Here, allow me. :)
God bless our Dark Lord.
by CarrotTop4 on Dec 5, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Asshole.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Bammer.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Damn, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done that, even in jest.
I take it back. I didn’t mean it. I could never mean that. Never.
Can we still be friends?
Thirteen.
Makes me wanna thow up....
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 6, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Still?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
To the +1 bunch...
Be careful of what you ask for. I see that giving the SEC many more opportunities to fill up the BCS Natty game with two schools.
I’m all for it…
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Those are not the rules
there is no place for a team who loses to an unranked team who goes 3-6 in conference. Sorry OSU, thems the rules
There are no rules saying a team can or cannot play in the BCS title based on who they lost too. The 2007 BCS champion was LSU, who lost to a 3-5 in SEC play Kentucky team. Can we all just acknowledge that we are biased, and of course we think Alabama should play for the national championship?
Is it really that hard to believe everyone of us would feel completely different if the shoe was on the other foot? I am happy Alabama is playing for the BCS, and will offer no apologies, but please let’s all stop being hypocritical and disingenuous.
Who is this "they" that also lost?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
we say that Boise shouldn't be in cause the schedule they play
and they lost ONE game to a ranked TCU yet they aren’t even close to being “in the mix”. So yes, I believe if you lose to an unranked POS of a team called Iowa St that alone hands down knocks you out of the mix. They should have dropped from #2 (or where ever they were at the time) to the teens. Had Bama lost to UT in ‘09 there is absolutely no way we get a shot. They only had a chance ( and as i mentioned i group Bama here as well) because teams couldn’t hold serve either.
Ill say this…Say Penn St had been ranked #1 when we played them and say we actually lose that game. We go on to win out and so do they..Would everyone be saying we don’t deserve a shot? Probably not. They are only saying it now because LSU and Bama are in the same division.
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Philosophical and moral flexibility
You are choosing to put more weight on the strength of a team’s loss, as opposed to the strength of a team’s wins. I am not necessarily saying this is right or wrong, only pointing out the hypocrisy of it. You choose in this case to believe it is more important who a team lost to because Alabama lost to the number one team in the country, and OSU lost to Iowa State.
That may in fact be the most logical point of view, but it is also convenient logic given your rooting interest is for Alabama. Again, I would go back to my initial point and proclaim that we would all fill a little different if the roles were reversed.
Really?
Alabama beat three teams that finished Top 25 by 23 points each.
Okie St. beat four teams that finished Top 25 by 22 points each.
Bama’s best win was Arkansas- by 24 points.
Okie State’s best win was K-State- by seven points.
Bama was not tested in any of their wins.
Okie State squeaked by TAMU by one point.
How’s that for a comparison of the wins?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
In college football its always been about who you beat and who you lost to.
And yes, late in the year, its much more about who you lost to. Had OSU lost to ISU early, then we probably would be in the Sugar Bowl. Had bama not lost to LSU, it would be LSU who making the same argument we are.
And i think everyone agrees that we would be pissed but wouldn’t blame OSU or the BCS but our loss to LSU as the reason why we weren’t in the CG. OSU though thinks their loss to ISU isn’t that big of a deal and we should all just forget about.
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Kenny, I'm assuming you don't also consider when a team loses, do you?
Because whether we like it or not, it does matter.
I guess I'll have to stick with my promise to buy myself an early 80s Cadillac Seville now that Alabama is headed to the BCSNCG!!!!
You are correct.
There would not be as much crying if we were not in the same conference division. And yes, you do have to look at the one loss and who it was to and by how much. Had Bama been ranked #2 and lost to Vandy or UT then how far to you think we would have fallen? Out of the top 5 no doubt.
If Bama had gone down aginst UT or Vandy then there is no way we get a shot even without the loss to LSU.
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And in 2007...
the next highest-ranking teams were Virginia Tech, who had already lost to LSU 7-48, and Oklahoma, who had lost to 6-7(4-4) Colorado and 9-4(4-4) Texas Tech. I guess Virginia Tech’s losses.
That was one crazy year. Remember that that same 3-5 in conference play Kentucky team was ranked in the top 10 at some point in that year. Twice.
Thirteen.
Er - *I guess Virginia Tech's losses were better losses, coming to #2 (at that time) LSU and #2 (at that time) Boston College.
Crazy year.
Thirteen.
Really?
Even losing 48-7? I don’t see that as a better loss…unless you mean a loss to help you see that you better not play the same team again….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 6, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Great Write Up!
I understand the hurt from other teams’ fans – I would have been complaining if ‘Bama had been dropped to the #3 slot. However, people cannot overlook the facts … week #12’s chaos is what allowed ‘Bama to get back in the NCG hunt. A lot of crazy stuff happened this season and you cannot keep on tweaking the BCS to get rid of every crazy senario that might happen. When you do that, then that could cause a door to open for another crazy set of events to occur which causes just as much chaos. It’s not ’Bama’s fault that the results from other teams’ game put us right back in the position we were in before we lost to LSU. Why can’t people be honest and just look at the facts … more unlikely losses by other teams contributed to the end results. If the games in week #12 went like everyone thought they were SUPPOSED to, then ‘Bama wouldn’t be in the #2 spot now.
ROLL TIDE!
by Chatt-TN Bama Girl on Dec 5, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions
exactly.
not our fault at all. Hate us all you want but we just played the games we were suppose to play.
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And played the undisputed #1 team into overtime
That feeds into the SOS factor as well. Okie St didn’t have to play LSU, we did.
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I like the idea of the +1 with some reservations.
I took up those issues in Bamapride’s “Why We Need a +1” write-up.
My BIGGEST complaint with the current BCS format, is this terrible idea that the UCONNs/WVUs go to a BCS bowl because they win a candyass conference like the Big East.
Meanwhile, Arkansas are relegated to the Cotton Bowl? Versus K State, it is an intriguing match-up, but I would have LOVED to have seen Arkansas return to the Sugar to take on Michigan or Baylor.
Virginia Tech goes to the Sugar Bowl (after a second hiding from Climpson) while #12 Baylor goes to the Bowl o’ Dicks Bowl? Baylor are easily one of the more exciting teams in the country. If anything, seeing the Bears take on Michigan at the Sugar would have been neck-and-neck with the Fiesta’s current pairing of Stanford and OKST as the best non-NCG bowl.
Asinine as well as unfair. Really, the Outback (UGA v. MichST) and Capital One (Scar v. Neb) are two of the few bowls I am genuinely intrigued by. VT is wasted space and Baylor and Arkansas got royally fucked.
I guess I'll have to stick with my promise to buy myself an early 80s Cadillac Seville now that Alabama is headed to the BCSNCG!!!!
The Cotton Bowl backed their way into a great matchup.
Arkansas and KSU are both ranked higher than either Michigan or VT. Silly (this year) that the Sugar is considered to be the bigger bowl.
God bless our Dark Lord.
I somewhat agree with the Cotton Bowl.
I am disgusted with VT being gifted such a postseason appearance, though. And because Michigan were able to out-chuck their opponents, it is too bad that Mich State didn’t make it to a BCS game.
I’m not sure why would have even watched the Orange Bowl for the past few years. Funny, I didn’t even acknowledge its horrendous match-up earlier. All I want to see is Holgorsen ditch the biker-chick hairdo. That’d be a WIN.
I guess I'll have to stick with my promise to buy myself an early 80s Cadillac Seville now that Alabama is headed to the BCSNCG!!!!
This will change.
As a result fo the disparity of conferences, the AQ status and the selection from each will change. What it changes to has yet to be determined.
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
It is bigger
by a cool $13MM.
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i think you're right on..
Take away the conference Tie-ins. If we don’t get a a +1 it needs to be 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8 9-10. After 10 it really doesnt matter. It even works if we get a +1. No rules about how many teams get in per conference and everyone is an at-large team.
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I am for a provisional plus 1.
If more than 2 teams from the Big 6 conferences finish undefeated then have a provisional game or two games to whittle the number of teams down to 2 or less. If two OR fewer are undefeated just use the regular BCS system.
Unless you finish undefeated you have no beef if you are left out. As Saban would say “It is what it is.”
But if you go to a plus 1 every year then in 10 years it will be 8 teams and one day 16 and we kill the bowls and end up playing way to many games. But, with a provisional plus 1 you will have to add a game every 4 or 5 years at most.
But no one can complain about being left out.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
i think some pretty well respected writer on twitter said
he’d only be up for a +1 if there was a 50 year contract signed taking away the chance at adding more teams after just a few years. That i 100% agree with.
Oh and that every D-1 school has to agree to the +1 and if any school comes out and complains about getting left out the coach will get suspended for a game and the team doesn’t go to a bowl. that’ll shut em up.
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So, what you’re saying is we need an 8 team playoff with the six big conferences/two wild cards, and the Big East rep plays the #1 seed no matter what.
I can dig it.
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i think 8 is too much
typically once you get past #4 and certainly past #6 you get into 2 loss or sometimes 3 loss teams. If one game can takes you out, certainly 2 is a KO.
Im fine with 6 with the 2 top spots getting byes or something of that sort. You could even have a play in game for the 6th spot.
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A play-in game for the 6th spot? So then you want 7.
But definitely not 8. That is right out!
God bless our Dark Lord.
Also...
I am for the bye for the #1 ranked team. Not sure how you work that in, but having the #1 BCS ranking going into needs to be worth something.
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
Screw all that...
…let’s focus on beating the whos….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Dec 6, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
no i dont want 7..
i want 6 but just to make sure no one can bitch throw in a play in game so everyone feels are warm and fuzzy inside.
To be honest, I like it how it is. Make some adjustments but keep it at a one game “playoff”.
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But the world doesn't end if a 2- or even 3-loss team gets in
Better to have an undeserving team in than a deserving team out. Dark horses and cinderellas have been spicing up the NCAA and high school tournaments forever. That’s not a bad thing.
again we have to define
“deserving”. just cause you only lose one game or go undefeated does not make you deserving. Boise, Houston, Auburn are all examples of this.
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By Auburn you mean 2004?
They absolutely deserved a shot in 2004.
Boise absolutely deserves one this year. For the record, I think they would truck Stanford and it would probably not be close, and they would be a toss-up against OSU. That’s a good football team, if some of the elitists would open their eyes and look, and was last year, too. At the very least, they have earned with several years of excellence the chance to test their excellence on the field. There is simply NO facts in the form of game outcomes to support the idea that Boise can’t hang with the big boys. They might get beat down over the course of a tough schedule and fall apart, as everyone seems to assume, but how do we know that since it hasn’t happened? All we know is that they have taken the tough opponents they have faced—and they’ve faced a few—and in most cases they have handled them, sometimes easily.
I didn’t come to the Boise bandwagon easily, but it’s time to face facts, that is one helluva program, and if there is a better staff anywhere than the one in Tuscaloosa, it’s the guys who coach on a blue field.
To come around to definitions: of course “deserves” is a mushy word, but I think if you have a legitimate argument to be #2* you should be in a playoff. The real key is whether it will stir the passion of fans in a way they won’t easily forget and that will fester inside them.
College football causes too much of that, and it’s not a good thing. I’m still butthurt from 1966 and I will be the day I die. That just shouldn’t happen. Teams should get to play for it if they put together the season that puts them in the discussion.
*I’m assuming that any system must have at least two teams playing for the championship post-season. If it can be locked up in the regular season, you can’t maintain public interest for the bowls.
I threw Auburn in there just as a jab..
They might get beat down over the course of a tough schedule and fall apart, as everyone seems to assume, but how do we know that since it hasn’t happened?
Thats the thing about Boise. No one can deny their ability to prepare for one game. But until they actually do play a schedule where they are asked to beat multiple good to really good teams in back to back to back weeks then I will pass them over each and every time for a team that has proven they can do it. Beating UGA in the first game and losing the only other “tough” game on your schedule is all the proof i need. They may be a good program and may be coached by great coaches but the only thing they have proven is that they can get up for one game a year.
To come around to definitions: of course "deserves" is a mushy word, but I think if you have a legitimate argument to be #2* you should be in a playoff.
Again, its not just about winning all your games or only losing 1 game. If that were the case Houston would be out right rioting right now. After all, THEY ONLY LOST ONE GAME. Yet, that game was to Southern Miss. So sorry Coug’s you’re out. Stanford is out cause they lost by 2 TD’s at home…OSU is out cause they got embarrassed by a 6 lose ISU team. Most years you MAYBE have 1-3 undefeated teams, a few one loss teams with many having quite embarrassing losses to boot. So if we are to have a playoff, it needs to be ONLY 4 teams and you have to have one hell of a resume to get in. You go undefeated in the Big East? GREAT. AWESOME. You’re still out. Unless everyone else has multiple losses.
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Hey bammer, are we going to do a bowl pick'em?
(I like staying on topic)
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im about to post the winner for the regular season..
and in that post ill have a link to sign up for Bowl Pick’em.
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