The Year of the Fulmer Cup?
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 11, 2011 2:29 PM CST
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PrintNo word yet on whether or not Aaron Douglas is vowing to singlehandedly bring 'Bama back to the top, but for now it looks like Auburn has overtaken the Tide in the vaunted Fulmer Cup standings. Per Fox 6:
The Auburn Police Department tells News Leader 9 that four Auburn University football players have been arrested and charged with five counts of robbery.
Police arrested Antonio Goodwin, 20, Kowaski Kitchens, 19, Michael McNeil, 22, and Harrison Mosley, 19.
Police say around 12:25 Friday morning, they responded to a robbery at a home located at 2300 block of Wire Road.The victims at that address told police three men entered their home with a handgun and robbed them of their personal property. Five people were inside the home at the time of the robbery.
My personal response here is "meh." Yes, the allegations sound pretty serious and could land these guys in hot water. It doesn't take the ghost of Johnnie Cochran to realize that armed break-ins of occupied dwellings in the middle of the night usually elicit harsh judicial responses. Having said that, I learned long ago to never underestimate the ability of first-time offenders to skate with judges facing congested dockets and overcrowded prisons, so who knows?
The early word is that Gene Chizik has kicked all four off the team -- if so, big kudos to him for doing the right thing -- but September is a long time away and it's more than enough time for a couple of these guys to work their way back into the good graces if the circumstances so allow. We'll have to wait and see exactly what it means moving forward. One way or the other, though, as much as we bash Chizik around here but given the severity of the allegations he should get credit for not hesitating before taking action here.
Nevertheless, this was already addressed in the fanshots and I figure it will be discussed further, so we might as well have a post about it. One way or the other, to those who feel the inclination to do so, I'd suggest no one gloat over this one. Remember back in 2008 when we were all pointing at laughing at the string of arrests in Knoxville? Um, yeah, I'm pretty sure one of those days we were laughing was the same day Jimmy Johns was selling blow in the parking lot a mere 150 feet from the Alabama coaches' offices. In other words, just enjoy the offseason popcorn and be glad it's not us.
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An
all around solid Friday afternoon.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Man
I guess all that cash Dakota Mosley got wasn’t enough…
by Apeekrtr on Mar 11, 2011 2:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
While I agree to an extent
about first-time offenders often skating, but we are talking armed robbery and home invasion. My bet is they are more likely to go to prison than to play at auburn again (which is worse is up for debate).
I'd pay good money...
I’d pay good money to watch Mosley and Ryan Mallett go head-to-head in a meth snorting contest. I bet even Vegas couldn’t pick a favorite in that one.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 11, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My money is on Mallett
Meth typically makes you skinny. Mosley does not fit that description.
by ApothecaryMark on Mar 11, 2011 7:35 PM CST up reply actions
He used to weigh 650....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 11, 2011 9:37 PM CST up reply actions
That's the scariest lunchroom lady I've ever seen.
by Nick's Hat Band on Mar 11, 2011 6:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
"I know
how you kids like em sloppy. Quit it lady, you’re scarin’ us." lol
A picture says a thousand words unless it is a picture of the Alabama football team then it only says one word.........CHAMPION!
by AlabamaTitans2009 on Mar 11, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking he looked more like
Coach Beiste’s little sister
Losing doesn't make me want to quit. It makes me want to fight that much harder. – Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant
by BamaGirlinDallas on Mar 12, 2011 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
Another reason to oversign.
You just never know what ridiculous trouble a young man will get himself into.
by PharmacyBob on Mar 11, 2011 3:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
But how can God let this happen to Auburn
First the trees now this. It must be a Bama conspiracy……
#thisisajokeandIdontmeantomakefunofGodoranyreligousview.
(Disclaimer: This is The GTO Judge’s mobile posts so you are being warned of the following: The Judge can not spell and his grammar ain’t no good. In addition, these are the ramblings of a Lawyer/Rockstar/Crimson Tide fan with very little football knowledge outside of the SEC. One more thing, My Judge is Carousel Red not F’ing orange. I hate orange!)
by TheGTOJudge on Mar 11, 2011 3:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
I didn't see an apology for mocking the trees in there
RECTIFY YOURSELF.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Mar 11, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
...and they have the power to HEAL!
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Mar 11, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Chizik's response
“The players arrested in connection with this deeply troubling incident have been permanently dismissed from our football team. While we realize the legal process will run its course and these young men have a right for their case to be heard, playing for Auburn University is an honor and a privilege. It is not a right.”
wow
grudging props to him
Proud member of the Fax Girl fan club.
by billycthulhu on Mar 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
What else was he supposed to do?
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Mar 11, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, that's assumed
Chiz is such a douche I can’t stand it, he will say something really gay about being auburn men or the creed or something, it’s coming. What a fagg.
by callmedeaconblues on Mar 11, 2011 7:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Dude
don’t be eight. Gay and fag(g) with no humor is piss poor.
Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mark Richt endorses this comment heartily
In other words, just enjoy the offseason popcorn and be glad it’s not us.
I’m sure the ACCPD has a few tricks up their sleeves this summer, but for right now I’m just glad that we haven’t had any players arrested for forgetting their middle names or emerging from alleys.
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Spencer is
already saying there will be a scoreboard and this is a new record.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
80 POINTS???
How did that happen? Bonus points? I would think this would have to lead to a change in Fulmer Cup rules
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by billycthulhu on Mar 11, 2011 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Charges will be dropped/reduced, but yeah when I saw 80 I was like
Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 11, 2011 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
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Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 11, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
To be fair,
Auburn already had 3 points. This incident resulted in only 77.
Why dont you get something
to eat.
I know you hungry
Stupid Llamas!.
by otisnixon'sparty on Mar 12, 2011 5:05 AM CST up reply actions
Did they
Release any news about the trees right after to try and cover up the story? Maybe there is some heart breaking news about the eagle.
No one has yet addressed the most important issue concerning this
Were any of those players good/likely to start?
Proud member of the Fax Girl fan club.
Yeah
all I want to know is how bad is losing these clowns is going to hurt the barners?
And when the hell is the NCAA/FBI going to drop the hammer on Cecil & Cam?
by BamaFaninATL on Mar 11, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well, one was one of only seven returning starters
I don’t know about the other 3, but given how much they have to replace I would think losing anyone is going to have an effect, even if it is just about depth.
I think the loss is minimal...
Mosley was pretty worthless in his own right. His job was to help steer Dyer to Auburn, and he did that. I don’t think he’d have ever played at Auburn, and not only would he not have gotten a scholarship had it not been for Dyer, I’m not even sure he would have gotten summer camp invites. He’s just not an SEC caliber player in my books.
McNeil used to be a solid safety before the broken leg, but he struggled last year and in any event he was going to be a senior. Probably not a major loss moving forward. Somewhat of the same goes for Kitchens, who never really impressed me. Auburn’s total lack of linebacker depth got him in the 2010 class, and I don’t think he would have even gotten an offer had he came along in 2011.
Goodwin might hurt though, I was generally pretty impressed with him as a wide receiver, and he is a guy that Saban and company recruited for a while.
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 12, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Here how they came up with the total
Each robbery count is a felony, and is three points per charge. Reading the police report, each player received five counts of first degree robbery, bringing three points times five charges each for four players to sixty points. Add in the felony burglary charges (one each) for four people at three points, and we’re up to 72 points. Four misdemeanor theft of property charges pile on to 76 points total, and that’s before we add a single, measly bonus point on top just for the dark humor of throwing only a single bonus point onto a massive heap of Fulmer Cup points. Just look at that widdle bonus point. Eees soooo kewte.
Auburn previously had three points, so the sum total for Auburn in the 2011 Fulmer Cup comes out as 80 points. This marks the second time this week UVA has blown a seemingly insurmountable lead, and sets a record for the Fulmer Cup in terms of team scoring for a single year, much less a single incident. This is the Krakatoa of Fulmer Cup scores; we hope to never see its equal, because we think that involves an entire football team being charged with murder.*
Couldn't help myself...
had to post this over at TET:
Freaking hilarious.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Mar 11, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I got banned for that over there, too.
What a bunch of sissies.
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Mar 11, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
I so wanted to post this before I got banned,
because I knew it was coming…
by Kelly's Big Johnson on Mar 11, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I'm torn...
…between wanting to rec you for getting banned from TET and wanting to flag you for going there in the first place….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 11, 2011 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
I think if you
go over there with the intention of getting banned, it’s ok. If you’re just a regular visitor who happens to get banned, you need to seek help quickly.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Mar 12, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe...
…but I usually try not to step in poop, intentionally or otherwise….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 12, 2011 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
I'm telling y'all
AU wants to be the new Miami. In fact this little armed robbery thing may just work in their favor next year. A lot of thugs still on that team (AU) and when these boys get community service it will help with recruiting. They did have the good luck to get caught in Auburn. Want to bet they get a favorable judge/and or jury?
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Youthful Offender won't cover 6 felonies + a misdemeanor
"Can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover." - Jesse Williams, 6'4" and full of muscles.
by Thomas Walker Esq on Mar 11, 2011 8:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes. I will bet you whatever you have they won't skate on this one.
"Can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover." - Jesse Williams, 6'4" and full of muscles.
by Thomas Walker Esq on Mar 11, 2011 8:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Comon man.
Don’t fuck with a good 5026 conspiracy. He’s like a tinfoil-hat wearing godfather around here.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Ok, but never underestimate the depth
of the Auburn family. If they get to a jury, and Chizik testifies as to how they are good boys who just got a little mixed up and didn’t really mean to use a real gun but just got carried away etc. and it was their first and only mistake ever and there is one Auburn family member on the jury…well it could get interesting.
But I will agree, under normal circumstances they are toast.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
You think Auburn would let Chizik be a character witness
in something like this? I say hell no.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Assuming they have separate trials
I think he might testify for Mosely who apparently was driving the get a way car. Especially if Mosely has something on AU, as in $10 k. By the way Mosely is already out on bond. Wonder where he came up with 50 k so fast?
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Yeah
Chizik testifying for only the white kid wouldn’t get shredded by the media and special interest groups.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
First of all Chizik is a tool.
He will do what Lowder-Dye tell him to do. His, or Tropper Taylors, involvement in the trials of these kids will depend on what is at risk. If the AU brain trust (and I use this word ligthly) believes that any of these guys could in fact finger them then they will do what they have to do to either get them off or keep them quiet. (Assuming at trial the NCAA has done nothing to AU and is not investigating etc.)
I’m not saying they will play ball again, I just think being in Lee County and being on the team and perhaps knowing things about the program…well they have some leverage.
Unless of course AU is actually squeaky clean and in such case they are toast.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Chizik is the W. to Lowder's Cheney....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 11, 2011 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
I like it.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
I agree that they could be invited back to play assuming they stay out of jail.
I just don’t see The Tooth in the witness chair.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Come on, they are family right?
You wouldn’t take the stand for your brother?
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
fambly
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 12, 2011 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
This will be a good selling point for recruiting
“Four scholarships have opened up; even less competition. You can come in and be a starter from day one.”
Sports are a culture's way of getting at 5 or 6 great men... and then assuring that their greatness remains petty.
by zarahoopstra on Mar 11, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
On another note, the server that sends news updates to students will be down until Monday at Auburn. I managed to register for classes for next semester right before they pulled the plug.
Books for Bama students: My E-Cubby - UA
You should take this as a sign that you shouldn't be registering for classes at the Barn!!
How much longer till kickoff?
McNeil is a big loss for them.
He was the only real depth at an already thin secondary.
"Can't you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover." - Jesse Williams, 6'4" and full of muscles.
by Thomas Walker Esq on Mar 11, 2011 5:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The problem with Faustian bargains
Sooner or later the Devil shows up to claim his side of the deal.
“Excuse me is your dog a boy or a girl?”
“Well, the name is Karma!”
Worldwide Walt deliver again?
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself." -- Milton Friedman
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 11, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure Mosley's daddy had the $50k for a bond.
Dakota just doesn’t know where he got it.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Mar 11, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
I knew it was coming, but I wasn't thinking about it. So the intensity of the dump was the problem. - Nick Saban
by TheRedTideConsumes on Mar 11, 2011 9:15 PM CST reply actions
At least Cecil can bail them all out of jail, right?
"Have you ever been so pissed off that you start swinging a cactus?"
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