Oregon Probed by NCAA, and Sean Nelson Says Hello
by outsidethesidelines on Mar 3, 2011 7:34 PM CST
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Remember the Colin Cowherd rumor from a couple of days back? Apparently the Oregon innuendo is indeed accurate, and in a huge shocker it turns out there may be some issues regarding the recruitment of 2010 Oregon signee Lache Seastrunk, among others. Per ESPN:
NCAA officials are examining whether a Texas man helped steer high school football prospects to defending Pac-10 champion Oregon, and Ducks officials on Thursday told ESPN.com that the school paid the man $25,000 in the spring of 2010 for recruiting services.
Sources close to the inquiry told ESPN.com that NCAA officials are taking a closer look at Oregon's recruitment of running back Lache Seastrunk, a redshirt freshman from Temple, Texas, who was one of the country's most highly recruited prospects in 2010. Specifically, the NCAA is asking what role Texas-based trainer Willie Lyles played in Seastrunk's decision to attend Oregon, the sources said.
And guess what? Luck be a lady, it looks like we've got some ties to Sean Nelson and Thibodaux here as well:
The NCAA, according to sources, is also examining Lyles' relationship with Sean Nelson of Thibodeaux, La., whose own relationship with top football prospects has been scrutinized by the NCAA. Last month, NCAA investigators interviewed former Thibodeaux High School coach Dennis Lorio about Auburn's recruitment of receiver Trovon Reed and offensive lineman Greg Robinson this year. Reed signed with Auburn last year; Robinson signed with the Tigers in February.
So, yeah, going to be a fun offseason folks. My advice? Invest heavily in popcorn futures.
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ruh roh raggy
I knew it was coming, but I wasn't thinking about it. So the intensity of the dump was the problem. - Nick Saban
by TheRedTideConsumes on Mar 3, 2011 7:44 PM CST reply actions
Does TCU get the BCSNC if AU and OU get hammered?
Yes, I am joking.
I knew it was coming, but I wasn't thinking about it. So the intensity of the dump was the problem. - Nick Saban
by TheRedTideConsumes on Mar 3, 2011 7:46 PM CST reply actions
What the Duck?
This is gonna get ugly…
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Mar 3, 2011 8:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Never seen that one.lmao
RBR resident Dogcaller.
by Crimsoncaller on Mar 3, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
To Borrow A Line From The New Ball Coach
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4iWQxuI1PnM/SUJjP3UL1FI/AAAAAAAAA9o/PMUPi1K5KJE/s1600-h/boom.jpg
"I'm trashed like Oscar the Grouch. Quote That"- Shankapotomous
Damn that was an epic fail, try again
"I'm trashed like Oscar the Grouch. Quote That"- Shankapotomous
by morri029 on Mar 3, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
if all the cards fall right
this year’s National Championchip will be erased from the books.
If you can't take the heat, don't pressure Freddie Kitchens.
by MobileBayCityRoller on Mar 3, 2011 8:15 PM CST reply actions
Apologies to Cowherd from RBR's please line up here.
Blowhard or not, dude deserves props for breaking this.
"I’d love to be inoculated against stupid" - Thomas Walker Esq, RBR Knowledge Dropper
I still think Cowherd is an obnoxious twat.
All he did was hear something from a source. So what? He still deserves to be smacked on the gooch with a spatula simply for his derranged, child-molester-looking mug and overly-ebullient personality. Both he and Craig James can “69” each other until they asphyxiate. I’m sure he has his good points… they just aren’t apparent, is all.
Now, Mr. “I’ve got Cam dead-to-rights in a pay-for-play scheme” Moore will be very deserving of props if proven correct.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Mar 3, 2011 8:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Cowherd hating
Is a good way to earn some green around these parts. And that’s totally awesome.
by Bama philosophe on Mar 4, 2011 4:03 AM CST up reply actions
Okay, Herd! You have a show on ESPN. Now be a loud, abrasive, rude, jagoff!
I simply refuse to abide anyone — no matter what their station in life — who is as unprincipled as Cowherd, Mike Francesa, etc. Their lack of professionalism knows no bounds.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Mar 5, 2011 4:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I apologize to Cowherd for nothing
Proud member of the Fax Girl fan club.
by billycthulhu on Mar 3, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I'm apparently the only guy who likes Cowherd.
I DVR it every day and then listen to it later while I’m working. He actually says the shit other people seem to be afraid of admitting or won’t generally say.
I haven’t been listening to him for that long, I apparently missed whatever he did that pissed everyone else off.
He says things even if they aren’t exactly popular. Like take the whole TCU/Boise St crap. He didn’t sit around kissing their rears, he said straight out they didn’t deserve it, mentioned strength of schedule and all that. He admits what we all do, they are good teams, but points out it’s not the same. Meanwhile just about everyone else at ESPN is all kissing their rears talking about how they deserve it and so on.
And other stuff like that as well.
Nah, I'm with you.
I don’t dvr him, but if I ever catch his show, I generally agree with most of what he says.
"I’d love to be inoculated against stupid" - Thomas Walker Esq, RBR Knowledge Dropper
by Slice of Life on Mar 4, 2011 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
I don't watch or listen to him..
I just don’t get all the vitriol for reporting what he heard. I’m sorry… isn’t that his job? And if you don’t like it… tune elsewhere.
He "reported" it. He doesn't deserve special credit for doing his job.
However, my disdain for Cowherd lies in his penchant for being an obnoxious child ON THE AIR. My only hope is that there is a pair of horse hooves with his name on them. Being well compensated doesn’t give one the right to be purposely rude… At least, that’s what Hannibal Lecter believed. ;]]
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Mar 5, 2011 5:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oregon getting probation
could actually help us in 2011 if we have one loss. I can not see anyone else in the PAC 10 (12?) going undefeated except Oregon. If they go down, then the only folks we need to worry about if we win the SEC 12-1 would likely be Oklahoma and Ohio St. We would only need 1 of those 2 to lose one game to open the door.
It will be interesting to see what the connection is with Nelson and if that uncovers something with AU too. Wouldn’t it be ironic if one shady oil change guy from nowhere La brought down the #1 & #2 teams in 2010.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
True...
But, also remember that despite all the talent USC had (before they went down), they were due for at least 1 loss from the Pac-10. They always won the non-conference games, but for whatever reason, they always have that one game where they let their guard down, and the other team had the game of their lives. I think currently, USC has lost to a team in the state of Oregon for the last 5-6 years.
I think it’s hilarious that both teams of the most recent national championship game seem to have serious allegations concerning the recruitment of their players. I’ve heard lots of chatter from the USC boards about this for the past couple of months, but I’d always dismissed it.
Roll Tide Roll
Look at that dude going all Dareus on that colt.
by CaliforniaTide on Mar 3, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Nelson only had this to say (via twatter):
“Fuckin God bless’n shit family all in family trick haturz bitch in family in all in.”
I jest.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Mar 3, 2011 8:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
"Ducks fly together"
Is Oregon slang for “snitches get stitches.”
YALL BETTA SHUT YO MOUF
by Bama philosophe on Mar 3, 2011 9:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm betting
Oregon’s just happy to now be considered a “top 10-12 program.”
Death, Taxes, and Tim Duncan.
Exactly.
Oregon has been a top 10-12 program for how long?
5 minutes?
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
If they were indeed cheating, is this as dumb as it gets?
They used a state check. Let me repeat that, a state check; to buy a player. Hey Chip, cash is king in bribe money.
Shoulda listened to Randy Moss
“straight cash, homey”
by Bama philosophe on Mar 3, 2011 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
This is why I want to call bullshit on Oregon being in trouble here
My logic is, if you are going to cheat, aren’t you intelligent enough to know to not document the entire event so that its public record. If I am wrong, and they did buy this kid’s service, they deserve to get hammered for it, if for no other reason than being childishly stupid.
At least Lowder and the boys are “good” cheaters.
True AU is smarter than Oregon.
But, the check was for 25k and given right after the kid signed. How in the world is that not wrong? I’m going to give you a few tapes of a kid, maybe help you make plane reservations for the kid and you give me 25k if the kid signs?
Remember in the SMU case the kid was paid with checks.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Using
these so-called “recruiting services” is not illegal in football. The NCAA shut down this practice in B-ball but its very much alive in football. And these services do provide a valuable service. What’s odd here is the amount that was given. $25k seems way out of line.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Is it not illegal to pay them to est. relationships with these kids, drive them back and forth to schools at no expense, and ultimately steer them to a school who employees you?
There has got to be a distinction b/w providing info on a kid’s ability and recruiting a kid by est. relationships as coaches would do. The amt is odd too.
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
More accurately...isn't that all Sean Nelson is doing?
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Mar 4, 2011 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
I
didn’t say it wasn’t shady, just that it’s not illegal… yet.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Not as much history of cheating in the Pacific Northwest,
so they’re learning as they go.
Just joking. Mostly.
How much longer till kickoff?
Well if Oregon goes down
and Auburn skates Satan may be on Auburn’s side.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
If the barn equates winning with God's favor,
then next year that shithole is getting “Sodom’d and Gomorah’d”
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."
-Thomas Jefferson
Nah, they're just dyslexic.
It’s really this guy that’s on their side:
How much longer till kickoff?
He looks like a wax figure of himself.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
I did Randy's watches BTW... wish I could pull that off.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
*dig
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Remember Lache Seastrunk & Otis Yelverton?
Some of you may remember Seastrunk. Back in 2009, he attended Auburn’s “Big Cat Weekend” in Toomer’s Corner where he proceeded to talk @#$% about Coach Saban. There was speculation that since the recruits names were announced by someone at the University-organized function that they had violated an NCAA rule that disallows such a thing. The whole thing was swept under the carpet despite the video evidence.
Another thing to recall: who remembers Otis Yelverton? Yelverton was a South Carolina assistant high school coach who was “mentoring” all the 4 and 5 star players out of Greensboro, including Keenan Allen, Chris McCain and Gabe King. He tried to deliver them all to Oregon. King’s family even up and moved to Eugene, Oregon. King, McCain, Allen, Allen’s no-talent half-brother and cousin all landed at Cal.
most of the reason keenan went to cal was because that was the only place offering
his half-brother. he was committed to bama pretty much the entire time. him and greg reid not committing still hurt.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
i remember a guy
named Otis Sistrunk
weird
"You have to create 6 seconds of hell each play..."
Coach Nick Saban
from the University of Mars
"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."
-Thomas Jefferson
Does this implicate Auburn?
Remember Seastrunk had Auburn as a finalist. This also includes Sean Nelson. If it gets down to money . . . it takes an inference upon an inference, but I don’t think it is unreasonable to say that Auburn was in the bidding.
I’ll just say this, there is a player out of the state of Arkansas that is going to make Reggie Bush look like a saint…
What's
unreasonable is to think that Auburn lost the bidding.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Yeah, it would be odd if they lost out on Seastrunk who went for $25k
And then paid ~$180k for Cam.
They were over their salary cap, so they had to trade Seastrunk.
They got 2 UO cheerleaders and a case of Heineken.
How much longer till kickoff?
Wrong on the Heineken.
You know they only drink Natty Light and the Beast down at the ugliest village.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
-Adam Savage
have you ever been to a party in tuscaloosa?
trust me, thats all that is drunk there too, especially on jefferson ave.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone
who went to college over the last 10 years or so has probably had way more Natty Lite than they care to admit. Myself included. NATTY SPIKED WITH EVERCLEAR SEEMS LIKE AN EXCELLENT IDEA!
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
i had natty light only a handful of times.
usually during spring break.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
What you drink on spring break stays on spring break.
Usually on the hotel bathroom floor. Sometimes out on the sand.
How much longer till kickoff?
Had a fraternity brother
Join me on a Spring Break trip one time. He was dead broke but went anyway. Took three cases of Beast Lite as his total diet plan.
4 hours after arrival, his was diving in shallow waters trying to eat the guppies. Very entertaining stuff.
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who may have less talent, but has the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
I didn't live on Jefferson
and I was more of a brown liquor drinker during college. Didn’t develop a taste for good beer until later.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
-Adam Savage
Yeah, the truth is UO gave them 2 meth heads from San Fran and a case of the Beast.
They thought they were pulling one over on the Tigers, but AU never complained.
How much longer till kickoff?
I will say this....
The SEC has been called cheaters the last decade or so (not going to deny that it happens because well…. it does happen). But the last two BIG recruiting scandals could now call the Pac-12 home with USC and possibly Oregon.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
They are not as smart as AU & UT
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Good Grief
just reading that I had to go and vomit that someone proposed that there are people dumber than UT and AU.
by BamaThrasher on Mar 3, 2011 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin
I knew it was coming, but I wasn't thinking about it. So the intensity of the dump was the problem. - Nick Saban
by TheRedTideConsumes on Mar 3, 2011 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
Somebody tried to tell me that Jon Stewart was that guy…. but he tends to think he’s smarter than he actually is…
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
Yeah...
Somebody tried to tell me that Jon Stewart was that guy…. but he tends to think he’s smarter than he actually is…
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
you are so correct
it needed to be posted twice (and no, thats not meant as an insult).
by BamaThrasher on Mar 3, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Jon Stewart is actually very smart
but that’s not rare for comedians. The closest thing we have to a George Carlin is David Cross. Agree or not with his politics, he’s the only one original and smart enough to be seen in the tradition of Bruce, Carlin, and Hicks.
Sports are a culture's way of getting at 5 or 6 great men... and then assuring that their greatness remains petty.
Cross has great stand-up. Underated for sure. Stewart is funny and no one gives a better interview
or thinks faster on their feet but the show is hardly his own. I mean his writers are resposnible for most of the material I would assume. In terms of race Chris Rock certainly broke some boundries but as a whole nobody has picked up the latern like Carlin did in the 70’s.
Never truss a big butt and a smile.
Are you kidding me?
Carlin isn’t even as good as Hicks. People think of Carlin as out on the edge, but Hicks was so far out on the edge he actually got censored for it. You don’t see any Bill Hicks HBO specials do you?
Carlin even lifted atleast 1 joke from Bill Hicks, and many others have lifted it. Dennis Leary’s big Jim Fixx joke was a direct lift from Bill Hicks, as well as his smoking stuff etc.
I like Carlin alot, but he gets a bit too much credit when everyone knows Hicks was the man.
Also, Richard Prior and Eddie Murphy did way more than Chris Rock and I’d bet a years salary Chris Rock would say the same.
I like them all. I like Stewart too. I agree he is very quick.
Paul Mooney however needs to be bitch slapped.
carlin quote = rec
"this is it, all I’ve ever wanted, this is home."
by HoundstoothHeart on Mar 4, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
my fav george carlin bit is about driving
“theres only two other kinds of drivers on the road. morons, and assholes. the morons are the people going to too slow, you got to get around them cause they’re lookin at somethin or they’re indecisive cause they’re morons. and then the assholes are anyone going faster than you. you’re driving along gonna change lanes to get around this moron when all of a sudden hey asshole! slow down! some asshole comes up from behind you and nearly rear ends you for trying to dodge the moron…”
In an industrial society which confuses work and productivity, the necessity of producing has always been an enemy of the desire to create. - Raoul Vaneigem
take this job and shove it - Johnny Paycheck
Everyone needs to stop just a second and remember one of the best songs ever to come out of Eugene, Oregon.
If I remember correctly, a good bit of you loved this song…and video…as much as I did!
Now presenting, in honor of the NCAA coming to town…I LOVE MY DUCKS!
Also…i am eagerly awaiting LSUFreak’s visual depiction of this new debacle.
I'm gonna throw this out there..
Lyles and Nelson and here we go folks.. Walt Williams are networked together and are “super recruiter/street agents”…sleazy way to make $. I think the further the NCAA digs into this they will find a networked web.
by UNVNSABAN on Mar 3, 2011 10:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
This is the potential "BOOM goes the dynamite" excerpt for me.
But a person who once worked with Lyles said the $25,000 payment exceeded the $16,500 Oregon paid the recruiting service for its work during the previous two years. The source said Lyles’ affiliation with the recruiting service had been terminated prior to Lyles billing Oregon on his own.
So this guy goes independent, then Oregon pays him more than they paid the service he was affiliated with for TWO YEARS of recruiting services?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Didn't Lache take a RS this year? If they did buy him then they are just throwing money around like
a lotto winner. Not gonna be pretty when the NCAA get’s done making examples out of any school unfortunate enough to have recent unfavorable media exposure. Barn, tOSU, I’m looking in your direction. I predict the NCAA will come with the fury of 100 pimps and put an epic backhand on these schools which have caused them embarrassment.
Never truss a big butt and a smile.
by R-Train on Mar 4, 2011 8:10 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
i was of the party that thought this to be oregon
from the beginning.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
You just can’t get through an NCAA probe without running into Auburn, can you?
Books for Bama students: My E-Cubby - UA
are any of our players possible connected with either of these street agents?
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
Trent Richardson
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Bama has more but I think that is the highest profile.
LSU has several as well.
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
im fairly certain it was lyles...
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Rumor is Lyles was Trent Richardson's handler and Patrick Peterson's handler in Florida.
Not sure why his Houston based company has ties to Florida players. But I know that Florida and FSU fans were pretty upset when PP7 and TR signed with LSU and Bama respectively. And I’m not talking about dissapointed, I’m talking like pointing the finger at LSU and Bama just like Arky and LSU are pointing the finger at Auburn for landing some of these recruits from our states…
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
yeah, i think its kind of dumb of us to sit and laugh
at oregon and auburn, when they could be on their way to t-town or red stick to interview our guys about the exact same thing.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Bingo...
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Dude..
Stop scaring me.
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who may have less talent, but has the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
Hopefully this will all blow over and we can look back at this post and laugh.
But it is at least mildly unnverving that you can connect some of these dots back to LSU (for me) and Bama (for you guys). I know these are relatively small dots, and I’m drawing relatively long lines to connect them…But I don’t even want to be able to draw those kinds of conclusions…
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
What's also interesting to me...
Is that it is rumored that Urban Meyer was involved in the smear campaign of Auburn with the whole $Cam fiasco…
Meyer also tried to screw LSU over with PP7 (getting his ACT scores flagged) and Terance Toliver (telling his family that LSU’s academics weren’t acredited etc.). Both of those players were rumored to be handled by Lyles…
Is this all a coincidence? Hopefully…
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
lets just hope for both our cases that we didnt pay anything extra.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
I
hadn’t heard any of that regarding Meyer. It’s amazing the stuff that doesn’t get widely reported.
"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken
Urban Meyer's morals
are presently being questioned by Richard Nixon down in hell.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 4, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
You hadn't heard about it because it didn't involve Bama...But any LSU fan that follows recruiting knows those stories.
I bet you’ve heard of the story that Meyer was telling Trent Richardson that UF would be switching to an I formation offense….
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Urban meyer's head would explode at the thought of
a power running game that didn’t involve a QB dive.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 4, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Meyer always seemed like a poor loser.
Didn’t take kindly to being outrecruited.
How much longer till kickoff?
Which is why I think we run a clean ship
..if Urbz can manufacture controversry (PP etc), you damn sure know he’d go Fulmer-level narc on someone who had dirty laundry.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 4, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't be so sure...
I guess where I’m going with this is…
If Urban has dirt on a few SEC schools regarding handlers he may have held this info back while he was a coach (and possibly doing the same thing)…But now that he’s out running his mouth on ESPN what does he have to lose by letting the cat out of the bag?
"I know the quarterback has a strong arm, but...I mean the ball's not gonna outrun ME" --PP7
Because he's not done coaching
You and I both know that…he’s going to wait for Brian Kelly to somewhat right the ship before being fired, etc. or for Tress to retire, and he’ll resurface at ND in about 5 years.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 4, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Never heard any of this re:TR and a handler.
Most of our alleged improprieties never make it off au message boards (gadsden, fishing trips, illegal workouts in ATL). Question: did Bama pay for his “service” or did he drive TR to Tuscaloosa ever?
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Mar 4, 2011 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Not really clear on the FSU angst.
Pensacola is NOT the same as Thibodaux. There are more ’Bama fans than FSU fans in Pensacola.
Thirteen.
The more I read, the more I start to change my mind...
I think the NCAA will just start looking at those recruiting services and lay-off the schools… for now.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
i like that the ncaa is exploring other methods of punishment.
people are thinking that tennessee will get largely left alone for what kiffin did, and they will go hard after him. basketball does this, and i think its time CFB does it too.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
zOMG
I didn’t even think about that.
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by GeauxCrimson on Mar 4, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Trooper was at Oregon?
When?
Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who may have less talent, but has the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.
I can't figure out Taylor's connection to Oregon..
but I was hearing there was or could be one somehow..former player or coach perhaps?
he doesnt have a connection to oregon
except playing them in the NCG. trooper went to baylor.
Lady, people aren't chocolates. Do you know what they are mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard fillings. But I don't find them half as annoying as I find naive bubble-headed optimists who walk around vomiting sunshine.
by Mr. Abe Froman on Mar 4, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
Monolithic, megalomaniacal
uber-boosters/trustee/regents/money men?
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Mar 4, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Right on
Oregon has Phil Knight
OSU has T. Boone Pickens
Auburn has….. Bobby Lowder (and his lost fotrune) and some dickhead who dresses up as a yellow cowboy showing off his FUPA to sell some wood.
by Bama philosophe on Mar 4, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I think were gonna find out this one is networked..
something like Lyle—>Nelson—>Trooper—>Booster and somewhere Walt Williams will fit in..JMHO
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