POLL: Which SEC Coach is Most Likely to Lose His Job in 2011
by kleph on Jun 30, 2011 9:49 AM CDT
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PrintOne of the more diverting amusements of the off season is pondering the possibility of various coaches getting the pink slip for their team's performance during the upcoming season. Provided, of course, that your team isn't one that is preparing for that particular problem.
Once again, Todd's favorite sportswriter on the internets, CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd, has produced his comprehensive list ranking the possibility of emininent unemployment for each and every FBS coach (ESPN's SEC blog rounds up the tally on the conference's coaches). The Coaches Hot Seat Blog then responded by quoting Emerson. FACE! (I think?)
Anyway, last year we took this poll and everyone was ab-so-lutely sure The Hat would be gone in Baton Rouge and Mark Richt would be joining in the unemployment line anon. Didn't happen. The only guys on that list who aren't now left of their own accord - Urban Meyer and Bobby Johnson. But this season seems much more ripe for turmoil among the head coaching positions for those unhappy few who don't show results.
So, we ask you, which SEC head coach is most likely to be invited to leave this season?
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Nick Saban, Really?!?
#slapyoself
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN
by Tokeisch on Jun 30, 2011 10:11 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I almost did it myself.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Jun 30, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
I voted for Saban as a joke
not thinking anyone else would have done it. But apparently I am not cleaver, and at this point, nine other people are equally as unfunny as me.
Can I have my vote back please?
"Snap into a Slim Jim, oh yeah!" - Macho Man Randy Savage
Man
You really butchered that joke.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
by TexaninNYC on Jun 30, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
ISWYDT
He was just saying that he wasn’t as ‘sharp’ as he thought he was.
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by JokerBama on Jun 30, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You guys
are the funniest bunch I’ve met in all my knife.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Jun 30, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I laughed, I cried, I groaned...I rec'd it.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Screw it, I just rec'd all the bad puns...
Why not.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not indeed...
We were just cutting up.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
Ohhhhh, I get it now...
At first I thought ya’ll were stabbing Saban in the back. Wooo, I guess I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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by You can call me Al on Jun 30, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I voted Richt.
I can see why Nutt is getting so many votes, but I think that Ole Miss’s standards/expectations just simply aren’t that high, especially when compared to Georgia.
Basically, Nutt is better positioned to survive a middling season.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
You make a good point.
However, while UGA’s expectations are undoubtedly higher than Ole Miss’ each year, it’s pretty clear that they have felt more or less comfortable with Richt for a long time despite him not meeting their expectations. I wonder if they have the gumption to alter the status quo and actually get rid of him. That’s why I voted for Nutt.
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jun 30, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Georgia's schedule is as easy as it gets for the SEC
The miss us, LSU, and Ark from the west. Florida is as down as they could conceivably be unless somehow Muschamp is unable to recruit moving forward(not likely). Tennessee is still way down. So I think Richt has some easy wins coming his way.
I voted Nutt because when it becomes obvious that Miss St. is firmly ahead of them as a program, he’ll get canned.
by dixiefootballpride44 on Jun 30, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
I voted Nutt because when it becomes obvious that Miss St. is firmly ahead of them as a program, he’ll get canned.
Thirteen.
I for one like Nutt
and would hate to see him gone. He is one crazy SOB and is always good for one upset per year. Also agree that Ol Miss is not expecting titles and are happy with bowl games. So as long as he goes bowling I see him staying.
"Snap into a Slim Jim, oh yeah!" - Macho Man Randy Savage
I'm not a big fan of Nutt
But as long as he stays the hell away from T-town (or any team that I kind of like) I’m okay with him staying active. He’s always good for some chuckles throughout the year.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
Richt, ditto
If they don’t finish at least 2nd in the east (and it be competitive) and get in a Jan bowl, he’s toast.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I voted for Saban because this is a silly poll
There are only two choices, and they are getting all of the votes. I think that Georgia has to win the SEC east for him to keep his job. I have no idea what people exect out of Nutt this year.
Richt can probably manage 9 wins this year and save his job
I don’t see Nutt coming anywhere near that many wins.
I voted for this guy...
…to leave ’cause he wants to (eleven years of Stephen Garcia has to be exhausting)…
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jun 30, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
I just spewed coffee outta my nose reading this ^^
…. and it burns!
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN
by Tokeisch on Jun 30, 2011 10:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I actually voted for Spurrier, too
Mostly I did it to be argumentative, but I definitely would not put him toward the bottom like other people are doing. I think there’s a really good chance he will be out on the links next spring if SC disappoints this year, which would not surprise me. This is supposed to be their loaded year, so I can definitely see him re-evaluating if things don’t happen now. He has definitely showed signs that his heart isn’t in it like it was in the 90s.
Nutt would figure to be the favorite, but actually he doesn’t really have to do all that much, because expectations are low. Bottom line is he is a pretty good coach, and I expect him to beat the low expectations and keep his job at least one more year. Ole Miss will have trouble upgrading if they dump him.
I don’t expect this to be the end of the line for Richt, either. Truly, I think Spurrier is nearly as likely to go as either of those guys.
p.s. “lose his job” is not the same thing as “get fired”
I voted for the OBC...
…because I adore him and I want him to move on to commentating.
Just think of the drinking game possibilities…
by Queen of the Universe on Jun 30, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Fingers crossed Nutt goes
Dreaming of an SEC West w/ Rich Rod coaching Ole Miss.
hellz no...I mean
Ole Miss will always be Ole Miss no matter who’s the coach but id rather not have another SEC West team with a good-decent head coach..
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I voted Nutt too.
I just have a feeling. There is nothing substantial to back it up. It’s just there in my gut .
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by That Other Dave on Jun 30, 2011 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
I still think Miles is one boneheaded move from the unemployment line...
I don’t buy into the love the corndogs profess for him.
‘Course I feel this way every year and he continues to survive clock management brainfarts on a regular basis. He’s bound to run out of luck sometime, and with the expectations for LSU this year combined with a brutal schedule, this could be the year.
"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."
the hat is fine
He keeps winning and he’s won a national championship. he’s gone if LSU has consecutive losing seasons but that’s the only way. He could kidnap the Neville brothers and not get fired.
by rickmuscles on Jun 30, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the tip of the Les Miles iceberg is the stupid part
But most of what a head coach does is not visible to the public. He’s doing something right or he wouldn’t have won so much. He revitalized the Okie St. program before LSU. Stupid as he looks, he is still a good coach. The results speak for themselves.
behold!
the auburn defense!
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you don't have to be a good heach coach to
win a NC..I think Chizik proved that..
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Larry Coker proved it before Chizik did.
by HarveyBirdmanAAL on Jun 30, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but
That’s not all he has done. Saban left that program after the 2004 season and they’re still top-tier. And like I said, Miles had good success elsewhere previously.
If I was hiring a head coach, he wouldn’t be at the top of my list, but he might have a shot at top 10. Top 20 for sure. He has a track record.
No evaluation of a head coach should be based on what he does in public—other than win and lose football games. There have been several very successful head coaches who gave off the “stupid” vibe.
Les is safe.
They could finish 8-5, and with that schedule and losses on defense and a new offense, he’d still get another year.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus the money saved on landscapers.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
by TexaninNYC on Jun 30, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"That guy at Vanderbilt"
LOL
I would have to say that given the question “…which SEC head coach is most likely to be invited to leave this season?” that Richt would have to be it. He can obviously recruit but he doesn’t have anything to show for it. Combine that with the negative trend in terms of wins etc and you would have to say his chair is already warm to the touch. Another bad year and he’s a gonner imo.
"Snap into a Slim Jim, oh yeah!" - Macho Man Randy Savage
That guy at Vanderbilt
may end up with their best recruiting class yet. Coaching them is a different story, but I’m interested to see. I’ve debated it here before, but if Stanford can do it, why not Vanderbilt? One day, they’re gonna get it together and sell that program like it should be sold. There town and degree is superior to almost any other SEC school and they have access to a lot of TV time. Malzahn should have taken that job.
Sports are a culture's way of getting at 5 or 6 great men... and then assuring that their greatness remains petty.
*their town
Also, on Friday 3 of the top players in TN are announcing together. There’s been talk that all may choose Vandy. Should be interesting.
Sports are a culture's way of getting at 5 or 6 great men... and then assuring that their greatness remains petty.
by zarahoopstra on Jun 30, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Because the PAC-10/12 is NOT the SEC
but if Stanford can do it, why not Vanderbilt?
And I’m not saying that for the laugh either. Seriously, the PAC-xx has historically been a one-horse show. If you can tell me when 2-3 teams in that league to be in the ‘NC contention’ talk at the same time after the season is half over, I’d be surprised. USC was forced on us for most every year for the past decade, before that Washington would make a fuss now and then and it looks like the Ducks will be the PAC-xx ‘team to watch’ for a while. But in the SEC we had half the conference trying to vye for BCS bowls when over 6 games had been played.
I think if Vandy can get to the point where they are looking to be bowl eligible 3 years out of 5, then they’ve ‘arrived’ as a good team and should be treated as such. If they could do that in the SEC (as it stands today) that probably means they would be winning conference championships in the Big East, PAC-xx, and surely in the non-BCS conferences…IMO.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
by JokerBama on Jun 30, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's a good argument
That there will be two title-contending teams in the Pac-12 this year. We talk all about LSU/Bama, but if Oregon pulls off the upset week 1, their game against Stanford may well be a play-in game for the BCSCG.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
True
But I’d be surprised, with a new coaching staff, if Stanford repeats it’s run this year. Although, if it’s gonna happen, the PAC-12 would be one of the conferences to do it in. I just don’t see them being able to go 12-0 and I think they would have to go 12-0 to get in the NC game. But, stranger things have happened…
/glancestowardstheeastsideofalabama
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
I don’t have much time today to get into a good discussion on this, but our opinion of the PAC 10 is irrelevant to recruits in their area. UCLA, USC, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, etc all provide excellent opportunities for student athletes and their recruiting is very competitive. So as far as getting big time players, the conference comparison is not a strong argument against Vandy.
But the bigger thing is that I agree with you and it’s because there is so much parity, so much talent, and so much opportunity for any SEC team that Vanderbilt could improve their brand drastically. If they could just get to winning a few conference games a year, they would get more TV appearances and be right there with Miss St as a team that could step up to being one of the better SEC teams. The thing people miss is that Vanderbilt has more to sell than Miss St, Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc… It’s just a better University. They’re an SEC team with a higher level education. They’re lacking two things: Tradition and a high profile coach. The latter can be acquired and you can sell “building a tradition” to the players. If you’re from the area and not a top 100 recruit and had any sense whatsoever, why would you choose Tennessee over Vanderbilt? Anyway, let’s see what happens Friday. It could get the momentum going in their direction.
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by zarahoopstra on Jun 30, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
vandy's tradition
is arguably the strongest in southern football. they were the dominant power while the rest of the programs were still figuring out how to play this newfangled sport. dan mcgugin defined the game in the south during the era of the southern conference and vandy’s success is part of the reason the sec was able to form at all. it’s not the commodore’s fault people today think the nineteen-90s are ancient history.
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Very true
And the same goes for Stanford as well. (Bama-Stanford Rose Bowls hello??) Many of the ‘old school’ programs came from the upper echelon of academic establishments. The Ivy league used to be THE place for college football.
I think the issue with Vandy (if it is really an issue at all) is the focus they put on the program. And yes, focus also means money and priority among other things. As stated above they are in prime football location with plenty of recruiting and potential fanbase. The problem is that they focus on other things besides football. Who can fault them really? In the big scheme of things, the SEC practices socialist policies where the teams that produce share with those who don’t, so they get a big chunk of money every year without having to produce a damn thing.
That isn’t taking away from the rest of the school. They obviously ‘produce’ semi-intelligent students and are able to demand a high price to do so, but that is completely unrelated to athletics.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
the assesment by the historians i've read
is that private schools had two big advantages in the early days of the sport; 1) access to prep school talent and 2) money. public institutions had to rely on high schools for talent in an era the game wasn’t pervasive enough for it to be played at that level except in the more metropolitan areas. prep schools was where the talent was developed and identified and the elite colleges scooped it up.
it isn’t by accident that alabama football was started by a guy who attended a northeast prep school and then returned south with his gear and a love for the game.
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great points
And I didn’t mention the money part that you mention in #2, but spot on. It’s not cheap to field a football team.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
even back then
good coaches meant paying top dollar.
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This is an irresistible prognostication/"what if" scenario: Vanderbilt being a step above Tennessee as far as recruiting and success.
WOW. If the next 3-4 years reflect this, can you imagine the sheer quantity of coaches (head and assistant) UT will chew through in trying to correct this? UT is already looking for a new AD and new ADs like to make changes in lieu of up-grades.
BTW, I know Dooley is not your typical Vile, but he is a Vile nonetheless and I say “Down with the in-mate-orange-clad!”
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by TiderUpNorth on Jun 30, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You people are all smoking crack if you seriously expect Vanderbilt to be consistently more successful than Tennessee w/in the next twenty years.
In their history, Vanderbilt has been to four bowl games (2-1-1). They beat Auburn 25-13 in the 1955 Gator Bowl, tied Texas Tech 6-6 in the 1974 Peach Bowl, lost to Air Force 28-36 in the 1982 Hall of Fame Bowl, and beat Boston College 16-14 in the 2008 Music City Bowl (to cap off a 7-6 (4-4) season, their first winning season since going 8-4 (4-2) in 1982). That’s right, Vanderbilt has had one winning season in the past twenty-eight years.
They did have a great deal of success in the early days, as pointed out, with 13 conference championships, but NONE were SEC championships. Vanderbilt was a founding member of the SEC in 1932, and in their 78 (or 77, don’t want to think that through right now) seasons as an SEC team, they’ve never won the SEC. They have a surprisingly respectable overall record (558–567–50 (.496)), with a 187–378–23 (.337) all-time record against teams currently in the SEC, but both of these statistics are seriously skewed by their early successes. Since 1960, Vanderbilt is 164–399–10 (.290) overall, with a 56–289–5 (.162) record against teams currently in the SEC.
To those who point to the 2008 season as a sign that things might be turning around: they’ve gone 4-20 (1-15) since.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s possible. South Carolina was a doormat not too long ago, too. I’m just not holding my breath.
Thirteen.
vandy's dominance
was in an era before bowls and really before the sec conference. but it was over a massive period of time – three full decades – their dominance was damn near complete.
like any exercise comparing teams across the gulf of history, the qualifications of one era don’t always match those of another.
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I agree...
they had a very successful period, but that was a long time ago, as did Harvard and Yale. Looking at their potential for success in the near future, however, there’s not much cause for informed optimism.
Thirteen.
it is my firm conviction
that one of the more inane beliefs among college football fans is that “a long time ago” is somehow synonymous with “irrelevant.” (not saying you hold to this, but your comment brings it up)
and this is a good example. vandy was a power back then for very specific reasons, a couple of which i pointed out above. but the school’s position on them changed as did the way the game is conducted. they became less of a power and other institutions took their place.
but when we look at the landscape of college football today and assume things are going to be any different for the teams playing today… that’s kind of crazy. these controversies about the scandals, the debate over who is better and the tsunami of politics and nonsense – these are all the same. for vandy 90 years ago, for us today.
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Agreed.
Thanks for not reading more into my comment than I wrote (no sarcasm). You explicitly didn’t put words in my mouth, and I appreciate it. I’m not saying that Vandy’s history is irrelevant, I was saying that their recent performance doesn’t seem to support some of the speculation that Vandy can turn it around like Stanford did.
It is certainly possible, however. Most people don’t seem to remember when Florida State was a doormat whose marquee “victory” was a tie against Alabama.
Thirteen.
Since joining the SEC in 1932...
they’ve had eight seasons with winning records in the conference: 1982 (4-2), 1955 (4-3), 1948 (4-2-1), 1941 (3-2), 1938 (4-3), 1937 (4-2), 1935 (5-1), and 1934 (4-3).
Thirteen.
Darth, Vandy doesn't have too much further to go before they are neck-and-neck with UT.
Who the hell knows what kind of recruiting this new guy will be able to accomplish when compared to a Vol program in the throws of a looming NCAA investigation, “musical ADs,” and the basic fact that recruits will not gravitate towards a school with that much turmoil.
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by TiderUpNorth on Jul 1, 2011 5:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes I voted for Chizik...
haters gonna hate…And though it might be stupid to think he’ll be out after this year, i doubt he last much longer than that. He “built” that “program” around a “once in a life time player who got PAID to go there” and a gimicky offense who’s mastermind will be leaving after this season…
Patience on the “plains” will be thin after he’s exposed for the toothless wonder he is..
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I hope he's there forever.
They’re learning to recruit, God forbid an elite coach fall in their laps.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
When has Auburn ever had an "elite-level" coach?
Tubs is top tier, but lacks recruiting focus and always loses one he shouldn’t.
Ditto Bowden, but he could recruit.
Dye was crookeder than a weasel on meth but woefully inconsistent.
It’s like pre-Spurrier Florida.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
God forbid they fire Chizik and find their Spurrier.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Elite coach, but not at Auburn.
He went 12-4-2 (66.67% winning percentage) there from 1895-1899.
Thirteen.
question was
whether they had one, not whether he prospered there.
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Donahue.
“Iron Mike” Donahue: "In 18 seasons coaching football at Auburn, Donahue amassed a record of 106–35–5 and had three squads go undefeated with four more suffering only one loss. His .743 career winning percentage is the second highest in Auburn history, surpassing notable coaches including John Heisman, Ralph “Shug” Jordan, Pat Dye, Terry Bowden, and Tommy Tuberville."
Can’t recall that I ever heard of the man till this week, when I saw his banner at Baumhower’s.
Chizik only gets fired if
That program is totally flushed by the NCAA and he is involved. NCAA investigations take several years, so that ain’t happening this year. I’d put him fairly low on the list. His chair is ice-cold right now.
Prediction BARN v. USU
Barn will win, and score 50+..but, they will give up at least 24 pts.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 1, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
My gut says Houston,
but I’m going to echo the sentiments of all my UGA fan friends when I say that if UGA loses to Florida or Tech, Richt is gone. I could see him getting forgiven for dropping a few, but not to the major rivals.
Chalk another one for Richt
though I think it depends not only on how the coach is doing but about the options to replace him. For example, just to pick one at random, let us say that GA underperforms expectations a bit, and the defense doesn’t seem that much better in the second year. Maybe they are 8-4, including a narrow loss to a good team in a bowl Meanwhile, Bama goes 14-0, and Kirby Smart becomes the hottest head coaching prospect in the nation. In that scenario, I say GA moves heaven and earth to get him. But short of some option like that, the GA folks will choose to emphasize the ways that GA improved.
by Steven Mitchell on Jun 30, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions
Question for UGA
Richt goes 10-2. Wins the East, but loses to GT and Florida, then goes on to SECCG, gets blasted by Alabama, then subsequently beats the hell outta’ X10 team in the Cap one bowl to finish 11-3.
Does he get fired?
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 30, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions
I imagine so.
He’ll be coming off the first year experience of a great recruiting class and will have a star QB w/ 2 yrs of experience. They’d give him some rope to see what he could do with all of those pieces. But if he slipped any in the subsequent year, it’d be curtains.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Jun 30, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
D'oh
I meant “imagine not”
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by Slice of Life on Jun 30, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Double digit wins
And/or an SEC East title should buy him another year.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
No, not that year
But like Slice said, the FOLLOWING year better be an improvement or the dawgs will turn on him.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
Has any coach been fired after winning a divison?
In the SEC or anywhere?
A few recent ones...
Frank Solich, and was canned because the Huskers needed a new direction (e.g., beat OU/UT).
Bockrath helped run Stallings out after winning the West in ’96 (but lost again to Florida).
Those are just the immediate ones I can remember.
Meaning to say, you can win a division, but get thumped by the West and your 2 rivals and still be out on your ass. 10 wins doesn’t mean the program isn’t stale, ya know?
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 2, 2011 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Under that 2011 scenario for UGA, I say Richt keeps his job.
However, anything less than 11-1 heading into the 2012 SECCG and Richt will be a goner.
I just don’t know how much longer we’ll be able to keep UGA away from Coach Smart.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Jun 30, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
My vote
is for Houston Nutt. Scholarship caps will probably hurt Nutt most of all in recruiting. They fired coaches for a lot less as well. And I don’t expect a winning season from Ole Miss (while the Mississippi State Bulldogs might be a 8+ win team again). They fire Nutt and go after a big name coordinator…or David Cutcliffe.
I voted for Nutt as well.
Mississippi’s 2010 was a morbidly underwhelming season, even for a program with low expectations. Does anyone remember Ole Miss’ highest AP ranking in 2009? They went into their 3rd game (v. South Carolina) ranked #4 in the nation. From that lofty plateau, a dismal 2011 will spell the end for Nutt, as well it should. For the second consecutive year, he is installing a transfer QB? Even the most pessimistic fans have to be tiring of this routine.
There are enough promising, aspiring assistants on successful programs around the country that Ole Miss will have its pick of coaching candidates.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
...Gus Malzahn?
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by Slice of Life on Jun 30, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Some thoughts:
Safe (for one of a number of possible reasons): Muschamp, Dooley, Saban, That Vandy Guy, Mullen, Petrino, Chizik, Joker Phillips, Spurrier
Moderately Safe:
Miles: he bought himself some breathing space, but one really boneheaded in-game decision and he is right back where he was at the end of 2009. Avoid boneheaded in-game decisions and finish with a good record and he’s fine.
Nutt: I just don’t see OM getting rid of him unless there is a bad collapse or a scandal
Hot Seat: Richt. He’s easily on the hottest seat, and needs to do something this year to save his job. Probably the bad economy and the reluctance to pay a big severance and hire an expensive coach saved his job last year.
Of course, any of these people could unexpectedly leave of their own accord, and the fact is that even the “safest” of them are one catastrophic season away from at the very least being VERY warm this time next year.
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by Richard Pittman on Jun 30, 2011 5:02 PM CDT reply actions
that's the beauty of the les miles experience
is he makes bonehead in-game decisions but still wins.
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This is also the agony of the Les Miles experience.
by Queen of the Universe on Jun 30, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Tragicomedy?
I think The Hat is safe for now, even should they have 1 bad down year (brutal schedule in 2011, but they will be very dangerous to us winning the West); 2 straight bad seasons though…
Richt could win just enough to seem safe, then manage to lose to Ga. Tech and suddenly get ousted at the end. Hard to say. A middling year with a strong finish might be enough.
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by TexaninNYC on Jul 1, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wish I could REC this from my Droid.
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
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