POLL: What Does This Police Investigation Mean for LSU?
by Nico2.0 on Aug 25, 2011 9:05 AM CDT
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Needless to say, LSU has a bit of distraction going on right now regarding a recent bar fight involving several players. Police obtained a warrant to search quarterback Jordan Jefferson's house yesterday. This sort of thing is never good for a team regardless of when it happens, but it certainly isn't welcome news so soon before playing the #3 ranked team in the nation on the road. LSU is expected to make noise on both the conference level and the national level in 2011, but you've got to wonder how this is going to impact that. While the other three named players aren't starters, Jefferson likely is the Tigers' starting QB. Les Miles hasn't stated whether or not anyone is being suspended at this point and Jefferson and Jarrett Lee have been sharing first team reps. So what do you see this meaning for LSU? No suspensions in the immediate future? A distracted LSU loses to Oregon and others this year? Maybe this galvanizes the team and they run through everybody? What impact do you see this investigation having for the Tigers on the field?
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It means the cops will get free corndogs for life
should the charges get dropped?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
That was a post fail...
was getting ready to flaunt the rules with a “First”, JAhole messed it all up. LOL
…and then I hit ‘post’ instead of ‘cancel’.
God bless our Dark Lord.
What did you just call me?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I think he called you Jasands....
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 25, 2011 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
#tweets4NLS
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 25, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
WAKE UP!!!
NOBODY WILL COMPETE FOR THE SEC TITLE IF THEY LOSE A GAME OR TWO, THAT’S WHAT PUTS THEM OUT OF CONTENTION GUYS, ……COME ON MAAAN
Your capslock key might be engaged.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Caps Lock: Engaged.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Question for the legal-types
What constitutes “probable cause” in order to get a subpoena for a search of someone’s apartment? What would the cops be searching for? Shoes? Clothing?
You could get a hundred different definitions for probable cause, but...
Just in general it’s a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime.
As for what they could be looking for, anything that can be reasonably inferred as evidence of the commission of a crime. It could, and probably did, include a lot of things that are totally unrelated to the bar fight.
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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 25, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
An eye witness helps too
[Redacted] advises that she knows for certain that she observed Jordan Jefferson kicked [sic] Lowery in the face.
by ApothecaryMark on Aug 25, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I put "other"
I think JJ gets charged and suspended/kicked off the team.
However, I think that it
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
SONOFA
Apparently, I caught a case of the CT’s.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
And could if I add to a something
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
He gets suspended for 2 games after the Oregon Game.
after all, the investigation is “On Going”
I think he get's a couple games
but we all know 2-loss-Les will have them in contention at least until they play us.
by dixiefootballpride44 on Aug 25, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions
The most embarrassing will be if they lose to Oregon because of distractions/suspensions,
and then get themselves together later in the year and win the SEC. I could see this happening.
God bless our Dark Lord.
No
the most embarrassing thing would be for SEC schools to lose two marquee match-ups opening weekend
Then have them meet in the SEC Title game
"What happened yesterday is history. What happens tomorrow is a mystery. What we do today makes a difference - the precious present moment."- Nick Saban
by Richie Grogan on Aug 25, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
no way
2011 georgia = 2009 ol miss. qb is over rated, they lose all their good skill guys, coached by an idiot with no control over the team. USCe or the gators bring home the east this year. book it.
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by tempebamafan on Aug 25, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably, but I don't have complete faith in any of them.
I would put my money on UF except that they have to play both LSU and us. SC has to play at Arkansas. But UGa’s SECW opponents are Ole Miss, MSU, and AU, and they get SC at home (and UF in Jacksonville). So they have a much easier road than the other two.
God bless our Dark Lord.
I'm not trying to be flippant to you...
…but really, in the long run, who cares?
We lost to Louisiana Tech in 1999 but beat Florida twice. Sure it sucks to have had losses that season, but that’s way more embarrassing than a loss to either Oregon or Boise State and it doesn’t really take the shine off of that championship in history’s eyes.
I think he means
in the sense of perceived SEC superiority that keeps putting our conference champ in the BCSCG.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Two might
especially since Oregon is a favorite to win their conference and Boise will probably go undefeated again (assuming they beat UGA.)
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I doubt it,
Considering the following:
One team’s depth chart has a negative sign beside tail back.
The other will likely be starting a backup qb while reeling in the wake of their starter getting arrested.
Not to mention the fact that the teams they’re playing are good teams. It won’t look great, but I don’t think the SEC suffers too much because of losses.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Is BSU in the MWC this year?
Don’t they play a slightly more real schedule than they did in the WAC? TCU’s still in that conference for this year, right?
/head spinning from conf realignment
God bless our Dark Lord.
They play
UGA
Toledo
Tulsa
Nevada
Colorado St.
Air Force
UNLV
TCU
San Diego St.
Wyoming
New Mexico
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
And Fresno State
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
I hope TCU performs intercourse on their skulls
so bad they mess up and drop one to SDS the following week.
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by GeauxCrimson on Aug 25, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
SDS is no joke, yo.
…unless we’re playing them. In that case, we are a bunch of pansies that only schedule cupcakes.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, that is the way I took it.
Losses in those games would put a damper in the argument of “no SEC team could possibly be overlooked since we is awesomes.”
God bless our Dark Lord.
Oh, that's a GUARANTEE that we'll be "downgraded"
If LSU and UGA manage to lose both of those, the next 3000 sports commentator conversations will be about how weak the SEC has become…
Combined with the conversation of how dominate the Boise and Oregon programs are now. And how that will be the NC game (until one or both of them lose later).
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
Not so fast, my friend...
As long as Bama and Oklahoma keep winning, we’ll probably keep the top two spots.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
That's true
But it won’t stop the dumba$$es on TV from going into "hype"rdrive.
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
That just simply will not happen.
Want to know why? Trophies. We has ’em.
No announcer worth his salt is going to go on tv and talk with a straight face “about how weak the SEC has become”.
We may very well lose both those games (and the BYU game w/ Ole Miss), but there are really good reasons for those losses. It doesn’t mean the SEC is weak, and no announcer will be saying that.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you are right
I was exagerating the “sec is weak” thing (you are right, no one has the balls to say THAT), but I do believe they’ll hype the loses even if unwarranted or easily explained. I agree that the SEC has a long way to go to be ‘weak’, but facts rarely get in the way of a story for these jerkoffs.
You stated
No announcer worth his salt
I’m just not sure there are many of those left. The ESPN boys were slobbering all over Boise last year when they snuck that win against VT. And they were trying every which way to get them lined up for the NC game until Nevada thankfully ended it. Even when VT lost to that high school team the following week, they fell over themselves explaining it away.
With any luck UGA and LSU will stomp both of them and my silly comments above will be even more moot than they are already. Ha. :)
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
I’m just not sure there are many of those left.
Exactly….when Brent Musburger is considered the best by the powers that be, then you know you are living with a dearth of announcing talent….and who’s second best? Verne Lundquist? Two words….Orlando McCain….
I guarantee that Brent Musburger, Herbstreit, and the rest of the ESPN/ABC Boise hype machine network will fall all over themselves slobbering on Boise’s pussy, pretender, unworthy, one tough game a year playing knob….
Anyone who thinks CFB commentators won't hail BS State as the "New Rome" IF they beat UGA is not paying attention.
As I’ve said many times before, I will credit BS on ONE thing alone, and that is their PR people. Unfortunately, there are enough slappers out there to actully buy-in to the whole notion that BS are the scrappy, likeable underdog trying to make their way in the world.
BTW, anyone else notice the ignominious absence of BS in the debate as to who to ADD to the foundering BIG12? If the Broncos are so ambitious, I would think they would jump at the chance to join a real conference, wouldn’t you? And for that matter, why wouldn’t TCU wish to raise their stock by joining the BIG12 rather than the East Coast Minor Leagues?
Charles Martel, Charlemagne, William the Conqueror, Raymond IV the Count of Toulouse, Godfrey of Bouillon, Baldwin of Boulogne, Henry II, Richard the Lionheart, St. Joan of Arc and Napoleon Bonaparte -- all of good stock.
by TiderUpNorth on Aug 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
You are right about BSU
I don’t think TCU would be interested though. The Big 12 is about to collapse and if they go back on their deal with the Big East then there is no guarantee that they will get back into one of the AQ conferences once the Big 12 folds. As it stands they finally have AQ status and they probably wouldn’t take a chance on losing it again.
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
There's no way, *no* way that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo mamma in da mouth! - B.T.J.
by JokerBama on Aug 25, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
We must use titles, as civilized men do.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but I think that qualifies as the worse cat fight I've ever seen.
If a shirt isn’t coming off, what good is it?
At least needs some hair pulling.
They’re not even close enough to each other to imagine they might start making out!
God bless our Dark Lord.
c-c-c-c-at fight
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
SYWM....
the majesty…..the beauty…..the pure poetry of the Todd….
Look, the Mayans predicted it,
Washington D.C. just got hit with an earthquake, and now a hurricane in the same week, AU won the national championship, the stock market has crashed, dogs are mating with birds. It’s bound to happen eventually.
God bless our Dark Lord.
The SEC will not lose much as a result of 2 losses there.
The reason the SEC is considered strong is not just because of the top teams. It’s because of the overall strength of the conference from top to bottom.
The SEC is strong not just because we have Alabama, LSU, Florida and so on. It’s strong because of South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee etc. The middle of the SEC has been much much stronger over the past decade. While many of the other conferences drop off much more, some of them dramatically.
It’s the week after week after week of playing these teams that makes playing in the SEC so tough. Any team can “come up” a week and play a tough team. But keep playing those tough teams over and over and keep winning – that is the difference. It’s not beating 1 SEC team – it’s beating 6/7 of them in a year. That requires alot of depth on your team, playing in the MWC may provide a challenge or 2, but it doesn’t require alot of depth.
And that is reflected in SoS.
These games are anchor points however in determining strength between conferences. But we are playing the best teams of those conferences – with maybe not our best SEC teams. It’ll simply be used as a reference point.
Unless LSU or Georgia get totally blown out, and then go on to win the SEC beating all other SEC teams will it start to drain on the strength of the conference – as it should.
And if it’s a close game, or goes into OT and they lose, but then LSU/Georgia also loses to another SEC team who goes undefeated – Advantage SEC. If it’s close and LSU/Georgia goes on to win the SEC, the biggest worry might be the not wanting of a rematch, but since the entire season has went by since they played and it was close – it would likely be overlooked, SEC champ still gets in.
It’s just a myth that the SEC is guarenteed anything, we aren’t. We prove ourselves on the field each and every year, and that by the teams of the SEC as a whole.
Gotta play the Championship Season before the Championship Game. And right now nobody provides that season better than the SEC.
We prove ourselves on the field each and every year
How do you do that if not by winning marquee matchups against other conferences?
God bless our Dark Lord.
Easy.
There is a big difference between losing a close game, and getting blown out.
Even if the 3rd ranked overall team in the SEC barely loses to the top team of another conference, it’s still going to look good for the SEC overall.
If LSU gets blown out by Oregon, and then goes undefeated in the SEC, is that going to hurt SEC power? Yes. And it should. But while LSU may or may not win – I think it’s going to probably be a close game, and win or lose that game it’s going to show SEC strength.
Your talking about potentially lower ranked SEC teams playing the highest ranked teams of other conferences. It’s in our favor overall. The other conferences are risking more.
Just a thought on LSU's QB situation
Honestly, Jordan Jefferson is not that great anyway. LSU doesn’t really have a good QB. It looks like Jarrett Lee is starting against Oregon and he’s probably no worse than Jefferson. The only big difference is that Jefferson has a good bit more experience.
Either way, with Les Miles on the sideline you never know when they are going to do something stupid that blows a close game like they did against Ole Miss a couple of years ago. And they would have lost to Tennessee last year if UT’s coaching staff was not equally stupid in the last minute.
I don’t think the QB is LSU’s biggest weakness.
With Lester's blind luck . . .
Jefferson will end up in the county jail and Lester will be forced to start Mettenberger against his best judgment — and Metternberger ends up being sCamJr.
by Son of Roaring Dan on Aug 25, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions
The whole mess leads The Hat to spew brilliant prose-like mutterings:
“We’re preparing as if a happenstance would occur.”
WTF?
Proud mini-Saban.
Ha! You're trying to get meaning out of the things Les Miles says publicly?
Les Miles is many things. “Straight Shooter” is not one of those things. The man simply will not ever give a truthful, straight answer to an important on-field question. We have come to know this, and to respect it. His syntax makes him sound foolish sometimes, but the fact that you can never quite figure out what it is he means is by design.
As for the story, I think it will die a quiet death. Already, it looks an awful lot like the alleged victims provoked the encounter with assholish behavior (perhaps involving a young lady). It will be hard to make any charges stick when the allegations are, “I started the fight, and they beat me up much worse than I would have expected.”
Of course, this is surmising. We still don’t really know what happened. There are a lot of contradictory accounts, but as someone said, “Rarely is there a truly innocent party in a bar fight.” I think in the end the truth is so hazy that, combined with Jefferson’s lack of history of violence or disciplinary problems, there will be no reason to come down hard on him.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 25, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
ESPN is saying
that witnesses saw him kick the guy in the face.
"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin
And other witnesses are saying he had no part in the fight whatsoever...
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 25, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
He's guilty.
Next case.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
And right on cue...
We have this account of what happened that night.
Elizabeth B. Siadous, 18, says in a petition for protection from abuse that on the night of Aug. 18, her ex-boyfriend, Andrew Lowery, 21, followed her to a bar, cursed and yelled at her, cornered her several times and hit one of her friends.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 25, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I could be dead wrong about this,
but unless Andrew Lowery is the marine that got kicked in the head and ended up with 3 broken vertebrae, there is still a case here.
Self defense/defense of others will only carry you so far. Kicking the crap out of a person on the ground is going to be tough to overcome for somebody.
The Dr. has a summary up now.
I know it is from the perspective of the dirtbag you’re talking about, but it indicates that the fight was already in place, irrespective of his spat w/ his girlfriend.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It does seem that Lowery was the one that was kicked in the head,
but he wasn’t the one with broken vertebrae. My point still stands about exceeding the “protection of others” defense, if that could even be posed.
At any rate, it looks like there is a third party that is corroborating Lowery’s story. My guess is JJ doesn’t play a down this year.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, several holes in that "defense" argument:
1. “Defense” doesn’t end with someone on the ground getting kicked in the head.
2. “Defense” doesn’t happen hours and locations later
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by GeauxCrimson on Aug 25, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The PFA application does not give a location of the altercation
except that it is a bar. It very well could be the same bar, minutes before the fight with the players. And it’s not hard to imagine that if he’s acting boorishly and threateningly towards his ex-girlfriend, he may well have gotten his adrenaline up and continued acting boorishly and aggressively towards other people.
I’m not saying the football players were protecting the girl. That’s one leap too far, I think, but it sounds like Lowery was acting the fool and trying to start things up with at least a few people that night before this incident happened.
We hear rumors too about this, and some of them say that witnesses are saying Jefferson was not involved. With a bunch of eyewitnesses saying these that are diametrically opposed to each other, I don’t see how they can ever prove what happened beyond a reasonable doubt. Whatever “probable cause” they may have, I sincerely doubt they will press charges if they know a conviction is highly unlikely.
I think it is more likely that Jefferson doesn’t miss a snap over this as it is that he is kicked off the team. In fact, given his non-history of violence (at least, known to us), and the fact that this was a “heat of the moment” situation rather than a planned out attack, I think that it is very unlikely that Jefferson is removed from the roster entirely. A suspension is not out of the question, however. I just think it’s more likely that nothing will happen because the incident will be too hard to reliably piece together.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 25, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, he snuck out after curfew, partied,
And got into an altercation that led to battery. Of course there’s gonna be big consequences.
It's just hard to defend here
when by just about all the accounts, there were quite a few LSU players at this bar after curfew, and it appears that several of them were in a brawl – including the senior leader of the team….whether or not he was involved, why was he not stopping his team mates from kicking the crap out of this guy?
Irrelevant
Even if Lowery was acting a fool, LEAVING or calling the authorities in the first place would have been the appropriate reaction for the implicated players. Anything that could even be construed as “defense” went out the window when people already on the ground got kicked in the face. If the players weren’t at some fault and were acting out of defense or honor or whatever you want to call it, why’d they roll out before the cops got there?
I’m thinking about this with common sense. What motives do the victims and witnesses from that night have to frame Jordan Jefferson? What could they possibly gain from that? It’s more than probable to say that at least the majority of the victims and witnesses are likely LSU fans themselves. What motive would they have to frame the starting QB for their team?
I also find the timing of the contrary reports, etc off. If there were witnesses there to tell the cops at Shady’s that players were beating up kids, why weren’t these same witnesses that DAYS later claim nothing of the sort happened, also at Shady’s telling the cops their story?
I’m not going to sit up on my high horse and pretend like the players acted like crazed lunatics and just singled out some random kids in the parking lot and decided to go nuts on em. I have no doubt the fight was likely instigated. The old line “there are no innocent parties in a bar fight” very likely applies here as well. But that’s exactly my point: there were TWO guilty parties, and one of those parties appears to be some LSU players. Guilty parties deserve punishment.
Now I will agree that I bet there isn’t enough evidence to stick anything to anyone. And unless there is, JJ won’t miss a single snap. It’s not the “right” thing to do, but that’s what will happen.
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
by GeauxCrimson on Aug 25, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, that makes sense.
I also think it’s unlikely that a Marine( if this guy is indeed a Marine, I haven’t really heard confirmation on that yet) would get injured like that unless he was caught off guard. If a Marine can get injured like that by throwing the first punch at some jock then we probably need better training for the military.
There's the law school answer, and there's what happens in the real world..
In law, the man who goes too far in defending himself or someone else, or the man who responds to provocation has committed a crime. In the real world, if a man is deliberately provoking and inviting violence, juries will almost never find fault with what happens to him short of death or permanent disability.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 26, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions
We're missing the point.
The douche bag that was causing trouble was the guy that was kicked in the face, but he WAS NOT the guy that ended up in the hospital with three broken vertebrae. Who is that guy and what defense would the LSU players have in beating the crap out of him.
To me, it sounds like this turd was at the bar causing trouble and initiated the fight. He got his ass kicked and while he was on the ground getting acquainted with JJ’s sole, somebody else jumped in to defend the guy on the ground or to jump in the fray. Either way, that guy ended up getting hurt bad, and I don’t think it could be argued that the beating handed out to him was attributable to defense of another.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 26, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That is a question I myself am asking..
Perhaps that’s the next phase of this. Lowery’s been the focus, and now it looks like Lowery is totally discredited, but there are these other guys, whose stories we don’t really know at this point.
In that sense, you may be right. If and when things turn in that direction, more may come of this. Right now, I don’t think a jury would be swayed by or sympathetic to Lowery’s position, so much so that I doubt they issue warrants based on his statements alone.
Father. Husband. Lawyer. Nerd.
by Richard Pittman on Aug 26, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
but it’s not his statements alone. The police report quoted a third party (an unnamed woman) that corroborated his story.
It wasn’t discussed whether she had any kind of relationship with Lowery, but if she’s truly impartial, then it spells bad things and I would think warrants to be forthcoming.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 26, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
"Makes him sound foolish......"
You can always be vague without sounding stupid. I don’t think Les Miles is playing dumb.
49 pairs of shoes? From a dude?
Baton Rouge Police took the shoes off QB Jordan Jefferson’s feet and 48 other pairs from his apartment during a search Wednesday night in relation to the ongoing investigation into Jefferson’s and three other players’ involvement in a bar fight last week, police spokesman Don Stone said. “Police seized 49 pairs of (athletic) shoes,” Stone said.
What. the. hell.? If those 49 pairs included cleats, then okay — I can fathom that. But Jefferson surely wasn’t wearing cleats in the bar, so we’re talking about 49 pairs of street shoes? Huh? Apparently, Jordan Jefferson is the Imelda Marcos of college football.
Singing songs about the Southland
Could it really be that much of a fight
if it’s not on YouTube? Well at least JJ better hope someone didn’t video it. Unless of course he’s innocent in the brawl. I wonder if they’re looking for DNA on those tennis shoes. Could be traces of blood if there was a kick to the face.
They were looking to match a footprint on the guy's shirt.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
by Slice of Life on Aug 25, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
We can also add Russell Shepard to the list.
He wasn’t in the fight, but he is currently ineligible and may miss some significant game time.
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