'Bama Releases Depth Chart for Season Opener
by outsidethesidelines on Aug 29, 2011 1:03 PM CDT
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PrintWith the season opener five days away, Nick Saban has released the unofficial depth chart, ahem, list of administrative groupings, and with a couple of exceptions there are no major surprises. Click here for a grainy photo of the groupings as released to the media, or here for a more readable accounting from Izzy Gould:
QuarterbackAJ McCarron, 6-4, 205, So./Phillip Sims, 6-2, 217, Fr.Left TackleBarrett Jones, 6-5, 311, Jr./Cyrus Kouandjio, 6-6, 322, Fr.Left GuardChance Warmack, 6-3, 320, Jr./Barrett Jones, 6-5, 311Defensive EndJesse Williams, 6-4, 319, Jr.Quinton Dial, 6-6, 294,
It comes as no surprise that Nick Saban remained non-committal on the quarterback situation, and that is unlikely to change in the coming days. I imagine McCarron will take the first snap against Kent State, but Sims will probably come in a drive or two thereafter and on the whole snaps will be almost evenly split between the two. A definite starter may be tabbed in time for Penn State, but for the time being the coaching staff is going to punt on this decision.
The offensive line, however, does bring at least one surprise. The fact that Cyrus Kouandjio is listed as a co-starter at left tackle is largely expected given his strong fall camp, but the fact that Barrett Jones is listed as a co-starter at left guard, as opposed to right guard, is somewhat unexpected. Most expected that Anthony Steen was the one in jeopardy of losing play time with a strong surge by Kouandjio, but in fact it looks to be Chance Warmack in danger. Perhaps some of that has to do with hoping to pair the experienced standout Jones on the same side of the line as the young and inexperienced Kouandjio, but it could just as easily be that Warmack has not put an end to the mental mistakes that brought his development to a halt a year ago. Either way, a tip of the hat is in order to Steen, who by all accounts has been motivated by a disastrous Iron Bowl showing a year ago and has made significant progress in the last nine months.
Likewise, the defensive line is showing a bit of flux as well. Most assumed in the spring that Ed Stinson would quickly take over the starting job at defensive end opposite Damion Square, but that has not come to fruition as expected and Jesse Williams closed with a strong fall camp after a middling spring. Quinton Dial continues to develop, and based on the depth chart released today it seems that both he and Williams will rotate snaps this fall with one of them in line for the starting job. As is always the case, the starter designation really means very little given the heavy rotation on the defensive line, but in any event it's nice to see the two JUCO transfers surging up the depth chart and hopefully shoring up an otherwise suspect defensive line.
In other quick hitters, DeAndrew White is listed as a starter at wide receiver, which is no real surprise given the absence of Duron Carter and the suspension of Darius Hanks; the question will eventually be whether he can keep that job after Carter (hopefully) enrolls and Hanks returns. Phelon Jones and DeMarcus Milliner are both listed as back-up corners, so no real determination yet as to who will be on the field in the nickel package. Will Lowery is listed as the back-up to Mark Barron at safety, which may be a sign he still figures to play in the dime package. Michael Bowman is actually listed on the depth chart now, which I suppose can be considered as a sign of progress. Jerrell Harris finally locked down the starting Sam linebacker job, three years after most observers expected he would. No Trent Richardson on kickoff or punt returns, so praise Jebus. Nick Saban explicitly stated that Cyrus Kouandjio will play against Kent State, so you can forget about any possibility of a redshirt season from him. As we've stated here at RBR many times, he is clearly a three-year player and the staff recognizes that as such.
'Bama will return to the practice fields later this afternoon, and we'll have a more in-depth report then, including the latest on Duron Carter. For the rest of the depth chart, follow the jump.
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I think Jones will
eventually end up at LG by Arky. BTW…thats one hell of an Offensive line. Cyrus, Jones, Vlachos, Steen, Fluker.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No kidding....
kind of what I was hoping to see as far as CyKo is concerned, though like OTS said I was expecting to see Cyrus, Warmack, Vlachos, Jones, and Fluker…..Anthony Steen really must be doing a good job….it would be nice to see us able to run the ball either direction with equal ability – it seems like we have been a one sided running team every year Coach has been here….07 left (Andre)….08 right (Drew Davis)…09 right (Jones)….when we really started running both ways in the auburn and Florida games in 09 was when we were dominant on offense…..
One thing
is that I seems Steen has put on a few pounds. I think he was listed around 290 last year and now over 300. That is just going by memory so I could be off.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Ok, my bad, Steen was listed as 305 in 2009
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Maybe he is just bigger.....
he looks it to me…..and it wouldn’t hurt him to be…..you know Coach Cochran…..that little man builds monsters…..
DeQuan over Dee, eh?
And DeAndrew White actually made it.
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YEAH BUDDY!!!
nothing spells “you shall not pass” out to an opposing offense like a returning starter @ CB losing his spot to someone else on the roster who was hindered by injury the season prior.
When your returning starters cant hold onto their starting spots, despite being 5 star caliber players who have done nothing wrong and played well? well, you have one deep @ss mu-fuggin bench…
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by tempebamafan on Aug 29, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Wideout
I’m disappointed that Marvin Shinn is not in the two-deep. Almost without exception, guys who are going to be stars at wideout get significant PT as TFs, and I had thought Shinn was going to be in that category based strictly on scuttlebutt. And I’m not at all sure that the problem is that we have so many fabulous candidates: our wideout rotation was pretty much Julio and the seven dwarves over the last three years, at least until Maze emerged in the 2nd half of 2010.
Another note: not to be cynical, but is it possible that the intention of this entire “quarterback battle” will be served once McCarron and Sims each take snaps in the Kent St. game? If those guys log PT this year, then try to transfer later? After sitting out a full year . . . McCarron would be a 5th-year guy at his new school, Sims a 4th-year guy. Somehow, I can’t see that happening.
Unless they go the FCS route
like Joe Flacco did. Then they can play immediately.
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Sims would have two years left to play. It wouldn't be that unreasonable.
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by Slice of Life on Aug 29, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
And I really think he has more upside
which is why the whole deal is concerning.
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Dragging out the quarterback battle...
… is based in part on trying to reduce the chances of a transfer this season by either player. That’s more common sense than actual cynicism. 2012 is probably beyond the control of the staff, but at the least the hope is that you can keep them both on the roster for the 2011 season.
Having said that, admittedly this is a huge decision by the staff, probably the single biggest personnel decision that Nick Saban will make in his time at UA. If you get this one wrong, you’ll deal with the after-effects for years to come, so you absolutely must get it right. If the staff misses on this decision, you can forget about winning another national championship in the next two or three years. In other words, while the transfer issue is clearly a consideration here, there are adequate and independent grounds for holding off on a decision.
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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course...
…since they’re both performing at a high level, there’s no reason to do anything differently, anyway….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Cut out the swearing.
This ain’t a gameday thread. Asshole.
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Our WR corps is..
deeeeeep. #marianastrench
Remember the catch, run, touchdown and flip Kevin Norwood scored against Penn St. last year. He looked very impressive, and performed well in both spring games. He must really be f’’ing up in practice not to be on the field. I am not sure we have had this consistent of a receiving corps in recent memory. That, coupled with two guys under center that can really throw the rock, has to have opposing defenses scrambling.
Good Lord, I'm stoked.
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That's a typo by someone...
Izzy Gould has the official roster listing on his accounting, i.e. 6’4 and 279. The 6’1, 310/330 pounds is probably just a typo by the media relations staff. I’d bet they mixed him up with Chapman.
The official roster listing of 279, though, doesn’t quite look right either. I don’t know if Stinson has hit 300 pounds yet, but he has had no problem filling out the 6’4 frame with the assistance of Cochran, and he looks to me somewhere around 290.
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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
The weight issue...
…is one of the main reasons I’m excited (if unsurprised) to see Williams in the first grouping….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You should get a job
as one of the guys at the tri-county fair who guesses folks’ weights.
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by animalcracker on Aug 29, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is this man smiling?
Because he is coming to kick your teams ass and empty your stadiums.
Roll Tide.
by Destindune on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
no Ha-Ha in the 2 deep.
Kinda surprised by that.
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by Thomas Walker Esq on Aug 29, 2011 1:55 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
Redshirt?
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No chance.
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by Slice of Life on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
He's sitting third right now.
Granted, that could change, but as of now he’s behind Barron and Lowery. Decent chance he won’t see the field, I’d say.
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I don't think so.
He’ll play special teams, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was doing some mop up duty as soon as this weekend.
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by Slice of Life on Aug 29, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It could very well be...
that Lowery is listed as second string because he will come in for the dime package. That could put Haha as the “actual” backup to Barron, if you will.
What if I won't?
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Oh, you will. You will.
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by Slice of Life on Aug 29, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
he is a possible 3 year player. He will take Barron’s place next year. We better play him some this year.
And Lowery will play dime some.
To be honest, if you count Phelon Jones, who seems to be really improving, we have about 10 guys at DB right now that could start most other places.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
You callin' Smelley...
…Smelly?
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions
Also
no Blake Sims anywhere? I guess a man with no real position has no real place on the depth chart…
Just put his name in any of the empty spots....
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
FG Returner
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by TiderUpNorth on Aug 29, 2011 6:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I noticed no Blake as well
I really hope he’s next to Maze on kick off returns. Sick combo on that one.
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by JunctionCrimson on Aug 29, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
did you know that Randal Cunningham
was an All American punter in HS and once ripped a 91 yard punt against the Giants in the NFL?
just an interest stat i came accross the other day and felt like sharing…. it would be dope if we were still in the era of 3rd down quick kicks and halfbacks who regularly passed the ball as often as they ran it.
fingers crossed that Blake Sims can become the next Randal Cunnignham on EA Sports’ NCAA13…
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by tempebamafan on Aug 29, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He was a 2 year
All-American punter in college actually, so yeah, I did.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 29, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I also think it owuld
be a lot more “dope,” if we pound the ball down everyone’s throat and never have a third down long enough to consider such a move.
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by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 29, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny, but
many times the punter is a pretty good athlete in their own right. Most of the time a punter at the major college/NFL level was a stud player at the HS level.
did you know that Randal Cunningham was an All American punter in HS
Generally, they aren’t ‘just kickers’.
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the empty slots
are the positions already indicated filled with the dual players on the squad ahead.
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No slot should go unfilled.
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The Tooth concurs with her.
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Marshmallow man on the far left like-y.
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 29, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Soft as a sheep, that mouf...
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
…I can’t just write in Blake Sims in those? Bummer….
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Side Note: Izzy Gould reporting Duron Carter has been admitted
As of right now, though, he’s only citing an unnamed source close to Carter, which really doesn’t add anything above and beyond the earlier Duron Carter tweets. As a result, we’ll hold off on posting anything just yet until something more definitive comes along, or there is independent verification by someone else.
Practice is at 3:30, here in about an hour, and hopefully we’ll get visual confirmation then.
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by outsidethesidelines on Aug 29, 2011 2:29 PM CDT reply actions
chris walsh and andrew bone both confirm it
and decline to name their sources.
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Gotta believe the source is Chris Carter though, right?
He texted Andrew Bone earlier and said they were “really close” to getting things resolved.
duron retweeted his wife's tweet "confirming" it
so it is just as likely to be that as anything. which is the problem with this anonymous source BS. there’s no way to know if the info is reliable. what we need is a green light from the university. these guys need to quit dicking around and do their jobs. make the call to the UA media folks and let us know if they confirm it or not. if they don’t we wait a bit longer.
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Is that really his wife?
I saw that he tweeted later something like “lol everybody calling her my wife.” Or something to that effect. Just wondering.
fantastic example
of why twitter shouldn’t be used as authoritative in this kind of situation
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want to see how a good journalist handles this kind of situation?
check out this tweet by cecil hurt.
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Anybody named Cecil is automatically a badass.
Oh, wait…
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Jesse Williams has to be the world's largest DE.
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 29, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions
And sculpted.
He’s gonna give opposing QBs a bad case of the flinches, mark my word.
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Ravens
Haloti Ngata is 6’4 and 335 and is a 3-4 DE like Jesse Williams.
He played NT at Oregon, though, correct?
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting that Maze starts at
all around returner, followed by White and Millener. No Richardson in the mix, it seems, with the “lack” of depth at RB.
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 29, 2011 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
Milliner*
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by RememberTheRoseBowl on Aug 29, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a lot to put on Maze.
I hope he’s up for it.
Biggest role in PR
…is to catch the damn ball FIRST. After that, you can head upfield, do a spin move, get hit by the Mack truck (gunner), fall down, take a knee, call Mama, whatever, but CATCH THE BALL FIRST.
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Also, I hope Vogler can see the field...
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 29, 2011 2:39 PM CDT reply actions
Does he wear corrective lenses?
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I'm on there.
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http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/patrick_tana00.html
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 29, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i had to double check some of the names and numbers
when filling in the grafic
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Everyone here is much smarter than me, so offering brief, inane comments is all I have.
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 29, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And gifs...
Inanity @gothlaw
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by Stuck in the Plains on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, homie.
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 29, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh Spockmeister duties also include:
1) Alternate RBR Sweetheart… preferably with some meat on her bones… marriage status non-requisite… and give her a tan…
I can’t recall any other positional responsibilities at the moment. I’m at work and am completely shit faced on vino! FUH-BAW!!!
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by TiderUpNorth on Aug 29, 2011 6:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's also fun to watch
Spock poke Todd with a stick during the annual RBR sweetheart announcement contest
Spock...
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 29, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No homo, but I luh you guys.
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 30, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Carter been cleared?
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
I think the coaches at Texas are getting face aids as we speak
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by TheGTOJudge on Aug 29, 2011 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
First Face AIDS reference of the season?
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by SpockJenkins on Aug 29, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a household name.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Izzy just tweeted DC's at practice!!!!
Saw it on the al.com bama page in the twitter section
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Interesting
AJ is the holder…this may be nothing but doesn’t the 2nd string guy normally hold?
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Eh...yeah
But it’s not unheard of for the starter(ish) to hold on occasion. They like the backups to do the holding because it gives them a chance to be on the field for a few plays each game and be in ‘live’ action. AND they tend to have a little more time in practice with the kickers since the first string guy is getting reps during practices.
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I always thought a QB is the holder for fake FGs... or am I full of shit?
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by TiderUpNorth on Aug 29, 2011 6:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
for intentional fakes that are passes sure
but mostly for botched snaps/holds that turn into impromtu runs for ones own life/ desperation passes to a TE in the flat…
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by tempebamafan on Aug 29, 2011 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
OH, that surely helps...
…in fake fgs, etc. But generally, a QB is more sure handed when it comes to coordinating a snap, catch, and hold. It is more difficult than it looks. But yeah, it plays into fakes if so inclined. However, like tempe states, many times the ‘fake’ was just a screw up somewhere in the snap or something and causes mayhem to ensue. Some player (usually TE’s) know to head to a spot if it occurs and wait for the lame duck pass.
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FAKE FG!
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by animalcracker on Aug 29, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
In the end Sims will be the starting qb.
Of course that end could be Sept., 2014.
Actually I think that the longer we have two starters the more likely Sims is to emerge as the true #1. If AJ could not establish himslef as the team leader in Spring and Fall Camp he just can’t do it.
Furthermore a lot of your perspective has to do with what you think of Saban as a person. If Saban truly cares about his players he is doing one of these guys a great diservice if he strings him along when he (Saban) already knows who the starter will be say in game 2 or 4. I think Saban has truely not decided yet and both guys are co-1st team. That can only bode well for Sims as the player at a disadvantage expereince wise. Once Sims has game experience he will jump past AJ.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Agreed....
I don’t think that Coach Saban would string a guy along….but I do definitely think that if he is truly not decided, that he would play mind games so to speak as far as keeping both of them competing as hard as they can to win the spot…..
I also agree that Sims wins out in the end…..I think AJ is a good QB, has a strong arm and all the tools to be a good one….but I also think that he has a little of the Brodie Croyle/Freddie Kitchens gunslinger mentality that Sims already seems to have more under control even though he is less experienced…..Coach Saban has expressed multiple times his desire to have a QB who is smart with the ball – doesn’t force things that aren’t there – and I think that Sims has the edge in that area….if you add that to a pretty equal battle as far as throwing the ball and knowing the plays, and Sims has the advantage….but to me, the kicker is the long term potential of both of them…I just feel like Sims is one of those special players that just has “it”….what “it” is, I can’t tell you exactly, but it’s just a combo of his pocket presence, attitude, the way other players react to him, etc….another thing I see is Sims always being upbeat and positive – calm, cool, and collected…..I’ve seen AJ yelling at other players a few times, and I prefer a QB that is always encouraging….of course, I’ve seen Tom Brady yelling at other players before, and he’s the best QB I’ve ever seen…..
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Actually I think that the longer we have two starters the more likely Sims is to emerge as the true #1. If AJ could not establish himslef as the team leader in Spring and Fall Camp he just can’t do it.
that…. is my gut instinct too. he was the #1 backup in late 2009, he hasn’t solidified the #1 starter role since. thats because he’s not going to IMO…
either way i wish both kids well and hope they both are healthy and productive for the Tide and then later in the NFL. i just have a gut feeling that Phillip Sims will be our full time starter by the end of this season…
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by tempebamafan on Aug 29, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
IMO the qb decision was made a long time ago.
This whole qb controversy is nothing more than a diversion by Coach Saban to keep the other teams guessing. Come Penn State AJ Mccarron will be our starting qb. There is no doubt in my mind.
by rolltide1333 on Aug 30, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
We had our in-stadium rehearsal today
And they were running the videos, including the one where the starters introduce themselves. We got all excited, thinking we’d have insider info on who the QB was. They get to the end of the offense, and we hear “AJ McCarron, Mobile, Alabama.” I turn to a friend a jokily say “Betcha Sims is next!” And, sure enough, he was. I’m thoroughly enjoying this QB battle from an entertainment-only standpoint, because I think the team will be absolutely fine in the hands of either guy.
Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!
by SoGladILeftTheACC on Aug 31, 2011 12:48 AM CDT reply actions
That's awesome...
…I hope it lasts for two national championship seasons….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 31, 2011 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
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