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Alabama By the Numbers: Sizing Up the Defensive Front Seven

A few years back, the folks over at Tomahawk Nation came up with a startlingly simple yet powerful insight about modern defenses - the bigger they are, the more successful they tend to be. Well, the insight itself wasn't revolutionary but they took the time to go back and look at the numbers to try and quantify the idea. And what they found was pretty darned interesting.

They discovered that eighteen of the 20 best defenses in all of college football in 2009 had a front-7 (DL+LB) weight of more than 1,780 lbs. Furthermore all of the top ten defensive units were in excess of that mark. Now not only was Alabama the largest squad on the the list it was the only true 3-4 team.

Moreover, the Crimson Tide was the only team to best 1,900 lbs in consecutive seasons (primarily due to one now departed Terrence Bernard Cody, Jr.)

A look at Alabama's defensive front seven over the past five years seems to concur with Tomahawk Nation's findings. As the total weight of the Crimson Tide front seven increased, the total defense standing improved as well.

Alabama Defensive Front Seven Total Weight
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In terms of Alabama's defense, this concept makes a lot of sense. Coach Saban's 3-4 scheme requires very large linemen to clog up running lanes and control the point of attack. It also puts a premium on big linebackers who can put their hand down and play like a defensive end if need be. Here are the average weights of Crimson Tide Defensive Linemen and Linebackers since 2006.

Alabama Defensive Front Seven Average Weight
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If you take into account the immense size of Terrence Cody the average weight of the line has stayed pretty constant since Coach Saban has been in charge of the Alabama recruiting pipeline. Linebackers have varied a bit from year-to-year over that period but are noticeably larger than in the final year of the Shula regime.

Now while Tomahawk Nation's 1,780 lb weight limit suggests Alabama will remain among the nation's defensive elite in 2011 it doesn't provide any means of prognostication for exactly how the defense will fare. The drop of about 20lbs between 2009 and 2010 was accompanied by a two place slip in the defensive rankings.

So what does that mean for Alabama this season? Well, according to the 2011 roster the Crimson Tide front seven will add at least five pounds. That's certainly big enough to fit in the top five again just by this particular metric. Obviously though there are a lot of other factors involved that will allow the big men to succeed. As our own Todd pointed out last week, picking talented big men for the line is a less than scientific process.

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They discovered that eighteen of the 20 best defenses in all of college football in 2009 had a front-7 (DL+LB) weight of more than

FTFY

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by figtide on Aug 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

fixed

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by kleph on Aug 3, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do stats exist for average 40 yard times of these HUGE defensive squads?

I mean, I understand that the front 3 don’t necessarily need to be fast but common sense says that the biggest/fastest defensive front 7 should be superior to all other front 7s.

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by UtahBammer on Aug 3, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Random question:

What’s the TV situation for the first game? I can’t get the schedule to load on rolltide.com to find out.

How much longer till kickoff?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 3, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Just found here that it is on the SEC Network. Anyone know the chances that I would be able to find that on satellite if I happen to end up in, say, Canada that day?

How much longer till kickoff?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 3, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone?

How much longer till kickoff?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 3, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bueller?

How much longer till kickoff?

by CarrotTop4 on Aug 3, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm as lost as you.

You get into that regional bullshit and next thing you know, the network is treating you to WVU v Who the Fuck Cares.

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by TiderUpNorth on Aug 3, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do they not show ESPN Network games on ESPN 3?

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by Slice of Life on Aug 3, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That depends on what your definition of 'ISP' is....

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 3, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

May I interest you in a cigar?

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by J Tadpole on Aug 3, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

All SEC network games are available via satellite that are not available regionally in your area

I live in FL and deal with this bullsh!t all the time. $29.99 PPV 1-2 times per year for me…

by ApothecaryMark on Aug 3, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

By this standard we

need to beef Jesse back up and make sure Ivory is in there a lot.

The fact our D-line is big is an advantage primarily in not giving up too much to the opposing O-line. I’d like to see a stat on D-line vs. O-line in weight given up by the average of the front 3 vs. the average of the other teams O-line.

In other words if we are only giving up about 20 lbs per man per game as opposed to 40 lbs per man per game. I think that would be a better stat to measure potential defense strength. Because if you are in the SEC you might need a bigger D-line because the O-lines are huge. But if you were in the WAC you would not need as big a D-line and might now want as big a D-line either.

Cody was such a force because he was bigger than the O-linemen. Very few D-linemen are.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Aug 3, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Generally speaking...

…there’s a combination of strength and speed in the SEC on the defensive line — especially at DE — that you don’t see (or don’t see as consistently) in other conferences (think Marcell Dareus or Nick unFairley here), but I don’t think teams in the WAC would not want a bigger defensive line.

Mount Cody was such a force because of his size, but also because of his remarkable combination of that size with strength, speed, and agility. Remember when he vaulted over Ryan Mallett? Almost anyone else his size would have landed squarely on top of that guy and flattened him.

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 3, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

On Cody, one thing is for damn sure.

My heart goes out to the first poor sap who met the rumbling Cody Express as he galloped towards the sidelines after his Rocky Block saved us in 2009.

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by TiderUpNorth on Aug 3, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

My cousin was that poor sap.

Saban, um, rather heatedly said “Get his ASS off that field! I said, GET HIS ASS OFF THAT FIELD!!”

He was a little scared but he complied.

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by J Tadpole on Aug 3, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry 'bout your cousin...

…but that’s def one of my favorite BDS moments…I was so ecstatic, I may have kissed a couple of dudes after that play…um…I mean….

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by NiceLittleSaturday on Aug 4, 2011 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are worse jobs than working security on the Bama sidelines.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Aug 4, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

When looking at cumulative numbers, we need not focus only on the individual outliers like Cody

Cody was truly a force that made the defense better. That being said, the key stat here is that our LBs on average are much larger than our competitors’. As Kleph and the referenced blog mentioned, we were the ONLY true 3-4 defense among the top 20. That means our LBs are just about as big as others’ DL. Since we all know LBs are generally much faster than DL, it means we essentially are recruiting athletic freaks to play LB. We are getting LBs with enough size to shed blocks from the OL who are also good enough to occasionally blitz or cover out of the backfield. I think that is the key point over the size of the DL we have on the team.

by ApothecaryMark on Aug 3, 2011 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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