Initial Impressions from the Kent State Game
A few thoughts from the early aftermath of Alabama's 48-7 victory over Kent State:
The continued injury luck has to be the most relieving takeaway from yesterday afternoon. Realistically teams in our position have far more to lose than gain in games of this nature, and from an injury perspective things couldn't have gone much better. A few players were dinged up throughout the contest, but there were no serious injuries suffered by anyone, and even better there were no reports of any minor injuries of any real concern. Say what you will about the overall performance yesterday afternoon, but at the very least we should have a healthy squad against Penn State, which was something we did not have a year ago.
The quarterback battle received much of the attention today, and rightly so. Both quarterbacks did some good things and some bad things, but clearly on the whole A.J. McCarron had the better day of the two. Does that result in more playing time for him next weekend, or will the three series strategy hold true for another week? Your guess is as good as mine at this point, but clearly McCarron bolstered his case yesterday afternoon. Having said that, though, even McCarron has room to improve and the play of both players left some desires unfulfilled. McCarron improved his positioning yesterday, but it's hard to see him winning the quarterback battle based upon the strength of that performance alone.
Turnovers, however, remain a major concern. McCarron and Sims each tossed two interceptions each, including one from Sims which was a de facto interception return for a touchdown, and 'Bama put the ball on the ground four more times. Fumble luck was fortunate yesterday (only one lost on four fumbles), but four interceptions and four fumbles against a quality opponent -- read Penn State -- is almost a guaranteed to yield a loss regardless of how much fumble luck you may experience. Beating Penn State will be exceedingly difficult unless the Tide does not improve over how it protected the football yesterday in the season opener. The same goes for Arkansas, LSU, and many others.
While the offense had some issues and never really seemed to develop a rhythm, the defense was nothing short of outstanding in a dominating performance against Kent State. The Golden Flashes managed only 90 yards of total offense off 70 plays, and the pass defense averaged roughly one yard per pass. Making matters better, 'Bama actually stopped the run with authority yesterday, as opposed to merely limiting the run, which was the case all throughout the 2010 season. The Kent State tailbacks averaged well under three yards per carry, and the longest run from scrimmage all afternoon was a mere six yards. Throw in a few sacks and you basically did it all... stopped the run, stopped the pass, pressured the passer. A bit more takeaways would have been nice, but that's clearly nitpicking given the overall play yesterday afternoon. Yes it was against a weak offense, admittedly, but any performance of this nature is highly impressive regardless of the quality of opponent.
The biggest disappointment of the day was easily the sluggish play of the offensive line. Pass protection was shaky at times, though at least somewhat serviceable, but the run game was again almost non-existent. Few holes were opened, strong surges against the defensive line were rare, and as a general rule the backs had to fight for every yard. Admittedly Kent State was a very stout run defense a year ago, but there was a lot of attrition in the offseason and in any event it's Kent State. Expect 'Bama to have some serious troubles offensively next week against Penn State unless the offensive line plays better, and given all of the shuffles that we saw up front today, clearly the staff has made no long-term decisions regarding personnel. I'll be blunt: If we legitimately expect to win a national championship, we need better offensive line play than we got today.
Want another disappointment? Try the lack of big plays, something of a surprise given the quality of the opponent and the presence of A.J. McCarron and Phillip Sims. Jalston Fowler had one big run after the route was on, but aside from that he, Richardson, and Lacy generally had to earn their yards the hard way, and the passing game produced surprisingly few big plays. McCarron had a nice throw down the field to Maze on the post, but there were only two other passing plays that went for beyond twenty yards and both were on short routes (a crossing pattern to Maze and a screen to Lacy). The lack of the big plays in the running game is no real surprise given the continued issues up front, but the lack of big plays in the passing game is something of a surprise. With the speed of Maze and DeAndrew White, combined with big arms from McCarron and Sims, more firepower was expected.
The fresh talent on the defensive line did nothing but impress. Jesse Williams was a monster on the field yesterday, and looked nothing like the player we saw in the spring. Making matters better, he played from end to guard with effectiveness, and clearly his versatility is a major bonus. Likewise, Quinton Dial made several plays, including a few in the opposing backfield, and Jeoffrey Pagan looked solid in late action. Josh Chapman and Damion Square had good days in their own right, and on the whole the defensive line looked much stronger than most expected. If the offensive line was the biggest disappointment of the day, the defensive line has to be considered the most pleasant surprise.
True freshmen on the whole were highly impressive. Vinnie Sunseri and Trey DePriest were special teams standouts, and DePriest actually led the team in tackles in his UA debut. Cyrus Kouandjio will probably earn a starting job before the year is out, and Ha'sean Clinton-Dix did nothing to disappointment. Christion Jones, Xzavier Dickson, and Jeoffrey Pagan all saw action yesterday (positive signs for their development), and on the whole seven true freshmen played against Kent State. The 2011 recruiting class was highly regarded on National Signing Day and has done nothing to disappoint based upon the early returns this fall.
Eddie Lacy may have been the most impressive player offensively, and he showed signs of development. The fact that he was adding clear value as a receiver out of the backfield is a major positive in its own right, but beyond that he showcased better vision and improved ball security yesterday afternoon. Lacy arrived in Tuscaloosa as a very talented but raw player, and two years later it's clear that he is making significant progress towards becoming a complete back. Jalston Fowler did well in his own right, but Richardson and Lacy will see the bulk of the carries and baesd on what we saw yesterday from Lacy there should not be a great deal of drop-off when Richardson leaves the game.
The linebacker corps... well, watching them long enough would probably cure erectile dysfunction. Alabama may not have the raw star that it had in 2009 with Rolando McClain, but you would probably have to go back to the mid-to-late 1970's to find a unit with this much overall talent and depth. Dont'a Hightower looks fully recovered, Courtney Upshaw looks like an NFL player, Nico Johnson and C.J. Mosley both played well, Jerrell Harris played his best football to date, and the back-ups didn't allow for any significant drop-off. It has been said many times by many people that the 3-4 is inherently a linebacker's defense, and accordingly Nick Saban has assembled almost a dream team linebacker corps to anchor his 3-4 scheme. The defense as a whole looks poised for a stellar season, and clearly the linebacker corps is the backbone of the unit.
Cody Mandell had a solid day punting, and Jeremy Shelly looked stellar as usual in short-range kicks. Marquis Maze had a muffed punt that was unsettling, but on the whole he was productive as a returner. Cade Foster, however, is a completely different story. Missing long field goals is one thing, but he's more than just missing; it's difficult to place a 54-yard try between the goal posts, but keeping it between the hash marks would be nice. As has often been the case with Foster during his time in Tuscaloosa, his long try yesterday barely ended up in the right zip code. With his inconsistencies on kick-offs and a new kicker being added in the 2012 recruiting class, odds are that Foster is nearing the end of his playing time in Tuscaloosa unless he significantly improves in the near future.
All in all, a solid day in Tuscaloosa, with injuries abiding and the victory coming with relative ease and without any real alarm. Certainly not a perfect performance by any stretch, and clearly there is considerable room for improvement on the offensive side of the ball. We looked like the quintessential Alabama team yesterday in one sense -- a ruthless defense inflicting cruel and unusual punishment mixed with an inconsistent, sluggish offense -- but more balance may be required as the season progresses and greater ball security is an absolute must. For better or for worse, we'll get a crystal clear idea of what this team is made of in six days.
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I don't think
the offence is good enough to continue to “tryout” for different positions. I’m no expert but I think the coaches should pick a starting QB and OL after studying film today and get ready for the season.
No expert either, but I'm certain the coaches will.
Given the nature of the opponent, the lingering questions regarding personnel and the development of young players, and the home venue yesterday, it really felt to me like the coaching staff used this game as, well, a full contact A-day. I honestly cannot believe that, had our first opponent been Penn State, we would’ve seen the position tinkering or playcalling we saw yesterday.
I’m not granting the offense a full pardon; obviously, better opponents will demand greatly improved consistency and production. But I do think we took advantage of this game to continue fall practice with a live, nationally televised scrimmage; decisions made yesterday by the coaching staff evidenced equal parts strategic conservatism and developmental experimentation, sometimes resulting in erratic performance. You won’t see that against a conference opponent, or that one team we play next week what’s coached by a zombie.
Agreed. QBs develope a rhythm and I have my doubts about a 2-QB system.
My real worry is how the OL performed. I was expecting the Kent State D to have hoof prints all over their uniforms by the 3rd Quarter.
However, I also look at the Kent State game to basically be the Crimson Tide’s final scrimage and I really got the feeling the coaches were using it as such. IE: they could afford to do this due to the opponent. Had we opened in a Chick Fil-A Kick Off-type of game against a tougher opponent, there isn’t a chance that there would have been so much mixing/matching occurring.
I hope there aren’t too many harsh reviews of the Bama O, because there was a TON of experimenting going on out there. Think we couldn’t afford to take Kent more seriously? We turned the ball over them 6-0 at one point. Trust me, this game was an exercise in experimentation, nothing more.
" Don’t worry, you’ve been lumped." -- so sayeth Todd, 30th August in the Year of Our Lord 2011, 9:10PM
Exhibit A: B. Jones
I wouldn’t have been shocked to see him line up at TE during yesterday’s game. Or H-back. Or punter.
Experimentation, nothing more.
Honestly, my last time watching a Penn State game (on tv) at the Beave, was when we beat them there in 1989. But, my guess is that will be coipously hostile, so the OL experimentation may need a one-week pause. I am confident that a two-QB system will continue for the PSU game though… and I am also confident that our staff will get both Sims and McCarron through that fire just fine.
" Don’t worry, you’ve been lumped." -- so sayeth Todd, 30th August in the Year of Our Lord 2011, 9:10PM
My only regret is that the experimentation ended there.
Cyrus in the wildcat! Empty backfield with the LB corps at wideout! Jesse Williams, rugby-style placekicker! Let’s get weird, ’Bama.
Jones was slated to play center at one point...
… but then we got the ball on the goal line and the staff went with Vlachos instead.
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by outsidethesidelines on Sep 4, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
On the radio
They said that on one of the interceptions, Barrett Jones had snapped the ball.
Nailed it again, OTS.
“If the offensive line was the biggest disappointment of the day, the defensive line has to be considered the most pleasant surprise.”
The defense is effin’ brutal and the offense is still green.
"All I wanna do is drive around in my truck and drink Jack Daniels... and they just don't understand."- Kenny Stabler
The linebacker corps… well, watching them long enough would probably cure erectile dysfunction.
Accurate description, however if you watch them for more than 4 hours you may need to seek immediate medical care.
I was a little disappointed that TR only had 39 rushing yards but with the sub-par line play what can you expect? I also hope that this year won’t resemble 2009 in that we cannot effectively make down-field passes. Screens and slants are great but we need a down-field threat both at receiver and QB.
Mark Barron, y'all.
39 yards and 3 TDs.
I’ll take that yards per TD ratio any day.
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The one big play McCarron missed.....
The deep post to White. They faked a jet sweep and I believe it was bowman ran a wheel route and was wide open, it would have gone for 6. Instead A.J. threw the post to white who had two guys on him. I would imagine it was a blown coverage.
A little sugar for the offense.
It is true that 5 turnovers in a single game would normally be the end of the game. However, each QB pretty much got an entire games offensive workout on their own due to the constant 3 and outs our defense produced, followed by some rather quick drives from good field position.
The offense was on the field long enough to turn it over 5 times and we did still score 48 pts. Despite all those possessions, in time of possession for the game we were even with Kent State who went 3 and out over and over, managing a total of 6 first downs the entire game compared to our 24 first downs, and only 10 3rd down conversion.
Speaking of 3rd down conversions, boy did we suck that up. Only 2-10 in 3rd down conversions. That is not good.
And our run offense did not perform as well a I had hoped either. Richardson was held to less than 3 yard per carry, and I have to think our lack of a decent running game contributed to our 2-10 3rd down conversions.
I hope most of this is due to Saban treating the game like an another scrimmage game.
Agreed..
OTS pretty much nailed it. I am still very concerned about our O-line. In fact I was trying to remember when was the last time we had a real dominating performance by the o-line for whole/most of a game against good competition. I don’t think we really had one last year, if so, I don’t remember it. It may go back to the ’09 season. I think Cyrus will play more next week and will start by Arky and Barrett moves back to guard.
Baptman
Arkansas last year.
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I know it was Kent state, but damn our secondary looked phenomenal
I also mentioned to my friend that I doubt I’ve ever seen a team so big, ripped, and fast. We’ve got some monsters on that defense. We may play LSU to a negative score!
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by BamaReturns07 on Sep 4, 2011 2:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
DBs looked better as the game went on
thought they were too soft early on though.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Im worried
About lsu. If we have interceptions our fumbles against them. Game over. They were great on turn overs last night
by lastmilefire on Sep 4, 2011 3:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
They're saying the same about us.
That’s gonna be a slugfest. Need extra ambulances nearby just in case.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Well, credit Oregon where due.
Two fumbles from a true freshman pressed into service and an awful, boneheaded decision by a backup punt returner does not necessarily equal LSU being “great.” That’s three turnovers that had as much to do with Oregon’s incompetence as LSU’s “skill.” Fortune, more like.
LSU looks pretty good in some respects and lousy in others.
You are right there...
Two fumbles from a true freshman pressed into service and an awful, boneheaded decision by a backup punt returner does not necessarily equal LSU being "great." That’s three turnovers that had as much to do with Oregon’s incompetence as LSU’s "skill." Fortune, more like.
Having said that, though, that defense still looks extremely good, and even with an incompetent QB, that is going to be one damn dangerous team as long as they can keep running the football between the tackles.
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by outsidethesidelines on Sep 4, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
There always dangerous because of 1 thing:
Les Miles’ compact with satan.
by callmedeaconblues on Sep 4, 2011 3:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Where?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Miles is best when
everything is in chaos. I don’t know if he has a pact with the devil, but he may have some voodoo going.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
contract?
"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN
by Tokeisch on Sep 5, 2011 5:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No, he shares a little care with Satan.
They carpool together.
Proud member of the Fax Girl fan club.
Arkansas at Alabama, from the Spencer Hall season preview:
Dr. Saban holds up a page full of hieroglyphics to Tyler Wilson. “Can you read the third line? What does it say?” Tyler stammers. “I…I…can’t read it.” Dr. Saban smiles. “Wrong answer,” he says, and punches Wilson in the face. #blitzmetaphors
I hope that applies to the rest of our games this year. We should have the D ready for LSU’s passing attack. It’s our offense against their defense, and their Coach G-O-A-E-I-O-U-X Tigers on the sideline and his crazy berserker magic that worry me.
They'd be foolish not to keep running between the tackles...
…since they failed to put up solid aerial numbers against a secondary best described as “somewhat better than Auburn’s.”
I wholly concur that LSU is dangerous, thanks to equal parts scary defensive talent and the magic snake that lives in the brain of Les Miles, whispering to him secret incantations of dark blood magiks and black rites of primal chaos that existed before man and will outlast his passing. But I’m not ready to buy into this LSU team as a top 5 outfit quite yet, mainly because they didn’t look good playing offense against a bad Ducks defense.
by woolf on Sep 4, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the magic snake that lives in the brain of Les Miles
Did you just call Les a dickhead?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Sep 4, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn't dare.
You think I want a meteor to hit my car? Bad juju, slandering The Hat.
That's some funny shit. Rec'd
"All I wanna do is drive around in my truck and drink Jack Daniels... and they just don't understand."- Kenny Stabler
I know its not the same thing
But the fact is even if its a fault on our side… They are able to recover and score from interceptions/ fumbles very well. In otherwords if we f*ck up, they will make us regret that screw up.
Bruce Feldman must not of been watching the same game!
Pass one copying all the sucking off of our D but said this about the O Line..
The Tide O-line is almost as impressive as the D. Are there two more impressive looking young linemen in the game than D.J. Fluker and Cyrus Kouandijo?
Their individual talents are there but the unit as a whole looked still in flux.
when you are switching people out like we were yesterday
that’s gonna happen. the quarterback competition gets all the ink, but it’s the battles for these positions – and how the unit as a whole functions once they are in place – that will make or break this offense.
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So will it be "make" or "break"?
Kleph, I realize this calls for some speculation but, based on what you’ve seen so far, how good do you think this O-line is going to be?
Nature or Nurture? Either way it's your parents fault!
Kleph is not qualified to answer this question.

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by UtahBammer on Sep 4, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the talent is there and the size is there
will it mesh into an elite crew? who can say? remember, we got a new offensive line coach at the reins so given the limited amount of info saban lets out of his camp… all we can do is guess. and hope.
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Feldman mailed it in here...
First off, Fluker is not a young player anymore, he’s a third-year guy going on year two as a starter. Beyond that, though, the offensive line struggled a lot yesterday. Sugarcoating that is fairly pointless.
I think the important takeaway from yesterday, though, is that we won’t see that that type of defensive line when it counts. Their quickness gave us hell up front yesterday, but you don’t play 6’0 and 260 pound defensive tackles when you play Penn State, LSU, Arkansas, etc.
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by outsidethesidelines on Sep 4, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
lulz
Feldman mailed it in here…
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Fowler earning them the hard way?
Fowler’s YPC was 17.3. The first drive in the 4th quarter, he had a 14 yard run followed by a 49 yard run. I think I’d consider that one a big play.
Fowler is a beast
As I posted yesterday, what other team would have Fowler as the #2 running back.
Menny, buyt not all.
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by UtahBammer on Sep 4, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's a typo...
Fowler had the 49-yard run, not Lacy as I wrote in the above piece. It’s been fixed.
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by outsidethesidelines on Sep 4, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Good write up.
Yesterday was a scrimage. However one thing concerns me. If we play Kent St. and don’t dominate with the O-line will that mindset continue in a real game (PSU) ?
I know Florida has traditionally used these first game scrimages as a chance to run up the score with the 1st team and instill confidence in guys that were already good. Not sure our O-line, or our qbs, got a confidence boost yesterday.
And why can’t Foster get the ball to the end zone on kick-offs anymore? Even with the wind he was short.
Still, our D is good enough to win next Sat as long as we stop the turnovers.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
i'll take this one (but i think it's ots' view as well)
If we play Kent St. and don’t dominate with the O-line will that mindset continue in a real game (PSU) ?
our thinking is no. the individual performances were uniformly strong and much of the breakdowns seemed to be associated with the large amount of shuffling folks around. the lineup for the line should be solidified for penn state and more consistency would be the minimum upshot of that.
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And again...
I’ll go back to my initial point in that the Kent State DL was an anomaly. Their quickness gave us trouble, but against Penn State and in conference play we’ll be facing guys 30-40 pounds heavier and taller to boot.
If the OL struggles continue against Penn State then you can go ahead and push the panic button, but for now I think it’s premature.
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by outsidethesidelines on Sep 4, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
my personal guess
is that the coaching staff pretty much used training camp to get everyone ready and treated the kent state game as the final exam (instead of the last scrimmage of camp).
so all these annoying predictions you’ve been hearing this past month about the qb battle and the lines have been just a lot of hot air. saban was most likely telling the truth – these positions have been very much undecided.
i’ll bet today was the most concentrated film study by the coaches this season and a lot of decisions about how to approach the season that were pending have been finalized. and i’ll further bet you that was the expected timeline from as far back as last spring.
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Yep..
last year we were worried cause the Oline didn’t get a push and at times against weak oppenents were actually getting dominated. What i saw in the replay yesterday was more getting beat by quickness or blown assignments. I saw few plays (if any) where our guy got dominated physically.
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Kent State ain't Georgia State.
just sayin…


by YellowhammerLA on Sep 4, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Checking to see against whom Kent State's numbers were developed...
In conference, pretty meaningless (Akron, Miami(Ohio), etc.) How about against good competition?
Well, they played Penn State the week after we did. PSU averaged exactly 4.1 yds/att against us… and against them. (And for the season…) We held the Nittany Lions to 127 yds; they gave up 162. Of course, the Fighting Paternos did manage to score on the ground twice against Kent State, which we did not allow. But they still held Penn State to the same efficiency on the ground that we did. Against Boston College, they allowed 2/3 of the Eagles’ season average total rushing yardage and well under their per-carry average, in a losing effort.
I note all of this in an attempt to gauge for myself the level of concern I should have about Trent Richardson’s low per-carry average, more so than in an attempt to justify same. I find a mid-major team whose strength on defense is against the run and who has performed admirably in previous BCS clashes. In a game in which we were never in danger, needed a good look at two passers, and had some backup running backs in need of reps, I conclude that I am not at this time concerned about TR’s rushing numbers against Kent State.
Lacy and Fowler looked good, though, didn’t they? Yeah, I’m not worried.
by loxodonta tuscaloosa on Sep 5, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else notice
that Vogler needs to hit the weights? Dude has got some serious noodle arms.
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