Game Film- Each QB's 1st 6 Drives
These are my thoughts on the "negative" plays for the Oline and QB's during the first 6 Series of the game. I label a negative play as one that doesn't gain yards, results in a turnover or has blown assignments.
QB-AJ McCarron
1st drive. Fluker gets beat on a simple swim move. Should of been stopped but Trent slipped out to get the 1st. If Fluker blocks his man its a huge gain.
1st drive.1st and goal from the 1.5 yard line. All 11 defenders are in the box. Simple zone read play for the OLine. LB slips through , trips Trent up for a .5 yard gain. Looks like Jones didn't get up field to cover the LB...We scored on what looked like the exact same play on the next play.
2nd drive. 1st and 10. AJ throws deep to White into double coverage. Over throws him. Had Trent wide open in the flat. Only reason i call it negative is because he had a man open. I dont have a problem with throwing deep to keep the defense honest.
2nd drive 1st and 10. Lacy just had a big run on a screen play.. Single I. Toss sweep to the Right. Underwood misses a block and Lacy is stopped for minimal game. Again, if he doesnt miss the block its a potential huge gain.
2nd drive. On AJ's TD pass to Maze, Steen gets beat bad by Nix and allows pressure. AJ throws off back foot but throws a strike. Only negative was Steen getting beat.
3rd drive. 1st and 10. Single I. D is in their 4-3 but really its a 3-4. DE plays in an up position most the time on the strong side. Run stretch play to the right. Everyone has good blocking but Warmack gets beat REALLY BADLY by Nix. Trent get hits about 4 yards deep. Vlachos does get beat later and the play possibly would of gone for a decent gain. None the less....2nd and 15
One thing Im noticing so far is the D is playing 8 men in the box almost every running play.
3rd drive. 3rd and long. We are in a 4 WR. D brings 5. A LB and DE twist brings a little pressure but Oline holds up. AJ is forced to throw a tad early but is eyeing White the entire way. Throws behind the WR. punting time. Maze was open on the bottom of the screen...wouldn't of been a 1st had Maze been thrown the ball. A perfect pass would of been a 1st.
1st three drives observations. All of AJ's reads seem very simple. Only a few plays were designed for him to go through his progressions. Most were 3 step drops or quick hits to the flat. I would give AJ an A for his first three series. I would say A+ but he threw behind his receiver on a 3rd and long.
Oline I would give a C. They passed blocked ok but missed some assignments. One guys misses a block and the whole play is dead. It wasn't that Kent St. guys did anything great. Our guys just missed a block.
WR's Id give an A. No drops. RB's an A as well. Cant get yardage if you dont have a chance to build steam. D does key on Trent and put 8-9 in the box when he's in. Id give Maze a C on punt returns. He one good return but dances WAY too much. Needed to just get up field.
And Yeah...the Alabama D was lights out. Except for a play here and there..I saw little mistakes.
1st drive for Sims. No passes. Run blocking looked much better on each play. Lacy had the double spin move run. Trent scored from the 9 yard line.
2nd Drive. 1st and 10 from the 27. Single I. Play action pass. (PAP) Smelley fakes the run block and releases into the flat. His man sees the PAP and rushes Sims. Vlachos gets beat. Both defenders meet at the QB. sack. Loss of about 10.
2nd drive. 3rd and 19. Empty back field. Shot gun. Trips left. Maze and Smelley on the bottom of the screen. D comes out in a 3-3-5. We attempt a slip screen to maze but it fails cause Maze bobbles the pass. Sims gets popped by a LB who was released by Warmack. This was designed and the pass rush didn't effect Sims' throw.
3rd drive. 2nd and 4. Pistol formation. PAP. Sims looking for the home run. Good blocking but Sims holds on to the ball way to long. Sims gets hit and fumbles. Had Lacy as a safety valve. That one is on Sims. He comes back on the next play and hits Maze for 15 yards.
3rd drive. 1st and 10. Double tight end single back set. Quick slant to White. Incompete and should of been picked off. White actually stops on the route right as Sims throws.. Had he kepts going it would of been complete. Not sure if that was designed or not. Im going with a NOT. So i blame the WR on that one.
3rd drive. 2nd and 10. Shotgun formation with Lacy to the Left of Sims. Simple zone read for the line. No pulling or trapping. Good blocking on the Right side but there is confusion on the left side. DE goes untouched and gets Lacy in the back field.I know it was a zone read to the right but Jones has to know that you at least put a arm on a guy...These plays are designed to let the RB read the blocks and pick his hole. Had Jones blocked his man, there would of been a huge cut back lane.
Last play for Sims was in a 3rd a long. He hits Maze in an underneath route. good safe check down. punting time.
Observations: Sims looked ok. He didn't seem rattled or nervous. He made a couple of bad throws but nothing to shake your head at. O line blocked poorly and i thought the play calling was odd as well. Just a completely different feel than when AJ was in.
4th drive for AJ. Cyrus in a LT. Beyond that i cant tell numbers. I think Jones is in at center. Again i didn't get this recording in HD. Single I PAP. Cryus lets his guy on the inside and makes AJ rush his pass. He throws it incomplete to Smelley. Trent was wide open underneath after the PAP and would of been a good gain. Instead, 2nd and 10.
4th drive. Very next play. 2nd and 10. AJ tries to squeeze a pass into double coverage to the TE Williams. both Williams and Norwood ran a double out with about a 5 yard spacing. Neither was open. It was a zone by the D and Williams did look open but the WR covering Norwood broke off and nearly picked it off.
4th drive. Very Next play. 3rd and 10. shotgun. Trent is in blocking to the right of AJ. No pressure what so ever. AJ tries to hit a wide open White on a crossing route. Ball floats on him. Interception.
5th drive. Looks like we have the starting five Oline out there.This drive was a good one in the sense that there were no negative plays. Oline blocked really well. A nice run by Trent got us to about the 20. White drops a screen pass and then AJ just barely misses Smelley on a back shoulder throw to the endzone on the very next play. White gets held on 3rd and 10 but they call the ball "uncatchable" even though the ball hits white in the hands. FG good.
I know Kleph wanted to know if the QB's were starring down their receivers. Hard to tell. It does seem as if AJ know who he wants to go to before the ball is snapped. I dont see much "going through your progressions". Haven't seen a check down throw much.
6th drive.2 minute drill. Lacy gets a big run on 1st. AJ hits Maze over the middle for a huge gain. He had nice pocket awareness. Oline blocked really well. Foster misses the 54 FG. Its another positive drive. No negative plays...well besides the badly missed FG.
1st half observations. AJ looked better but Sims only had 3 drives to AJ's 6. Offense just didn't look in sync. Ill say this. the play calling is much more aggressive than at this point last year. Or maybe its that the QBs look like they can hit the deep pass cause i see more passes over the middle. Outside of the one over thrown pass by AJ, the passing game looked great. Oline was inconsistent at best. If they put a hat on a guy the running game is much more effective. I dont see us getting pushed around at all. We are just missing blocks. Big difference. On the plays where the RB gets hit in the back field its due to blown assignments, not the lineman getting pushed in the back field.
4th drive for Sims. 1st three plays were 2 runs and a pass. Trent actually missed the hole twice.
4th drive. 2nd and 3. Single back with an upback to the right. PAP. Sims seems to force a throw to White when he had Smelley open for a 1st down. Again, he was looking that way the whole time. He also had Trent open in the middle AGAIN. Trent would of run for about 20 yards.
4th drive. 3rd and 3. Shotgun. 5 WR's. 3 to the right. D shows 3 down lineman with two LB's playing on the outside of the DE's and showing blitz. At the snap, the LB over Fluker drops into coverage. The other blitzes untouched. We run a short out and the WR is open but Sims is hit by the blitzing LB and the ball sails. INT. Jones and Warmack seem caught up in a dline twist and dont see the blitzing LB. Jones should of seen this prior to snap and made the audible or the TE (who was split just off the line) should of come down to help. Either way bad pass blocking play.
5th drive. Pistol. TE lined up next to LT. D showing a 4 man front and 3 LBs. CB is showing blitz. (8 in the box) Its basically a man on man blocking scheme by the olineman. Its a simple off tackle .play to the left. We actually get ok blocking initially. Cyrus is in at LT and drives his man well out of the way. Warmack gets pushed a little into the back field but either the TE or Vlachos miss an assignment as No one goes out to get the Middle LB. Im thinking the center should of gone to the 2nd level and blocked the LB since it was a run to the left. TE needed block the CB, even though Maze attempted to block and failed miserably. What could of been a good play ended up as a 3 yard loss.
5th drive. 3rd and 3. After a good pass to Smelley to make a managable 3rd down we come out in the shotgun with trent in the back field. 3 WR's and Smelley again just off the LT. D is in a 3-3-5 with the WR's all getting a 5 yard cushion. They bring only 4 and the oline picks it up rather easily. Immediately Norwood is open (lined up on the left side and running a simple 4 yard in route) Sims never looks off his primary receiver and throws the ball late. Had he been on time it would of been an easy completion. Not sure why he hesitated. Call it a rookie mistake. This INT led to the only score of the day for Kent St.
So thats it. AJ comes in on the next drive and gets a TD. I would say that play calling and some back blocking assignments hurt Sims more than AJ. But both need to not lock in one WR. One thing GMac did well was go through his progressions. He knew he couldn't make certain throws so he checked down a lot. These guys know they can make the throw and we are seeing more forced passes. I believe this will change next week.
AJ had two INT's. One was his fault the other the WR. Sims also had two INTs. One was definitely his fault and the other, though it was caused by pressure was also on him. He held the ball just too long.
As for the Oline. Missed assignments and a constant 8 man front was our problem. I didn't see anyone getting pushed around except on one play where Warmack didn't get a push. We controlled the LOS but one guy kept screwing up. You cant have that on the Oline. One guy misses a block and the play is dead.
So that was it. 6 drives for AJ. 5 for Sims. I would call it a win for AJ and say he's leading 60% to 40% right now.
Thoughts?
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ill say this...
AJs TD drive after Sims’ INT is the reason I want him as the QB. He made some great passes on that drive and never seemed rattled..
And its obvious that Warmack is the weak link on the line. He actually pass blocks pretty well but his run blocking is poor. On a couple drives he would pull and run right past the man he was suppose to block. I really hope Cyrus makes a push for the starting LT spot and we can move Jones to LG. I think that is our best 5 right there.
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Sorry. Can't. Hold. Back. Any. Longer...

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Btw, just kidding Bammer.
Good effort there. My main question is McCullough. Thought the dude played well last year, but now he’s in the abyss. Last year I had more confidence in him than Steen.
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Nice breakdown.
I would say that play calling and some back blocking assignments hurt Sims more than AJ.
With the play calling difference mentioned would you say they were more or less aggressive with Sims? I would assume less because of experience.
neither....
just different situations. Sims had better field position on his first two drives, creating a lack of need for passing attempts. Sims shortcoming was 100% about lack of PT in real games. I feel had both QB’s played last year at some point, Sims would be the starter.
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Great job, b...
…you know your football, brother. Thanks for this analysis.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 4, 2011 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
thanks man...ill never do it again..especially with a non HD recording. I enjoyed it but man did it take forever...I didn't even feel like editing it afterwards..
Ill say i learned a lot though. Watching plays frame by frame really gave me a perspective of what we were doing Saturday. We were quite vanilla on offense. No trick plays or anything special. Blocking was usually man on man or just a run zone read. I personally hate zone read blocking. I prefer a hat on a hat, go get your man and drive him off the ball. Zone allows for more mental mistakes, which is what you saw on Saturday.
I didn’t quite watch the defense as much but let me tell you…As well as we played (sacks and getting in the back field) we were even more basic on D. Very few complex blitzes. Just some twists and the occasional CB blitz off the corner. I cant wait to see this D when play book is wide open. My favorite player on saturday was Jesse Williams. Dude played everywhere on the Line and held up his man very effectively. Dial also played well. This D is much more about assignment football and do your job than the “make a big play” type D we saw last year.
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I agree about the mental aspect of zone-blocking.
But, the ‘09 season is the benchmark for zone-blocking near-perfection. I suspect that when we get off the bus in Happy Valley, our starting 5 will be prepared. We are fortunate, and at the same time cursed, to have the talent we have up front on offense. We will have success running the football, it’s just a matter of real-game reps. I was slightly amazed at the play-calling at times. I’ll assume our offensive game-plan will tighten up for PSU. Should be a great game, as always.
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Great job.
I did feel that the line play and/or the calls worked against Sims. If he had started the results may have been exactly the opposite. Or if they played the game over again the results may have been the opposite.
But, I think this is a year in which we have the talent to win it all. Because of that we need to stop the experiments right now. Pick who played the best on Sat. and go with it I actually think Sims may be better than AJ, but he blew it yesterday, and I think you must go with AJ.
If we played N.Texas second and then PSU then we could still experiment. But, we can’t blow a game, even a non-conference game, trying to decide the qb or the line.
We can win the NC this year with either AJ or Sims. So, I think we just have to go with AJ, get Sims prepared for back-up duty, and figure he is gone come Jan. Maybe we can at least give him a NC ring as a send off present.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Well done, Bammer.
I’m okay with going 3 and 3 again with the qb’s against Penn St. But after that I would shut down the tryouts for first string. Go into the cupcake game against North Texas knowing who the starter is and give them a full game as starter before hitting the SEC schedule.
I thought that AMac played pretty well, better than I expected and PSims was a little less than I expected, though not much. I think they’re both very good qb’s but I worry that we put too much pressure on our qb’s and we don’t let them play to their strengths. I can’t argue against this style since it won us an NC but I don’t think we have an approach that enables our qb’s to be great. The Bama qb style (play calling and coaching) is “Don’t screw it up” and that doesn’t leave much room for greatness.
i hate the
idea that the Alabama QB is just a game manager. I think we feel this way cause for such a long time we didnt have a QB who could make all the throws and be a gun slinger. JPW coudn’t. Gmac couldn’t. Zow had a big arm but wasn’t dynamic. Watts? um no. Kitchens? try again. McCarron and Sims have that ability.
I agree we dont need to run the Air Raid system but I want to see a more electric passing game. Saban has always wanted more explosive plays and i think that starts with the QB. IMO we finally have the tools to open up the offense and really show that we aren’t just a power running game and a dink and dunk passing attack.
Think about this. What if we could have that dynamic offense PLUS the D we have? I.E. USC in the mid ’00’s. I think we are closer to that style of ball today then we were this time last year.
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I think if we lose a game early
say PSU, Arky or UF we might then open up the offense.
But, as long as we win with a great D, using our qb as a game manager then we will continue in that vain.
Our last 3 starting QB’s Croyle, Wilson, and McElroy all ended up with some form of NFL contract. I know none of them were Drew Brees or Tom Brady, but they were probably better than we let them be.
I would not even look for us to throw it as much this Sat. as last Sat.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Better than we let them be?
When Croyle could stand, he threw that thing all over the place. JPW set records for passing attempts. GMac owns a couple of passing records himself. Each of these QBs had, at least, one 10-win season. Each of them benefitted from the tutelage of Mike Shula (he may have been unqualified to be the head coach, but he’s an excellent QB coach), and the last two improved under the guidance of CNS and McElwain. It’s not like these guys were held back the way Coach Bryant did his QBs in the 60s. Our attack is a balanced attack. Despite our strength there, we rely on the run only when we gain a big lead and want to eat clock. Our QBs throw. A lot.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 6, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Cryole threw more than any of them.....when he wasn't lying on his back.
I agree that we dont need a dynamic passing attack to win games. We’ve always won by a strong D and running game. But its getting to the point that teams are loading 8 in the box and are able to keep the running game to at least human levels. We will need to open up the passing game to take pressure off the Oline. As much as we bagged on them last season and Saturday, its tough for 6 guys to block 8-9. Even if you go double you only have 7 trying to block 8. If we can keep teams honest it should help the oline open up holes.
Its one thing to be balanced but we will need to start hitting the 20-30 yard passing plays ASAP.
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Yezzur.
My thoughts exactly. Just like in other segments of life, we have an internal need to go vertical.
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Except...
…that we don’t need to get too preoccupied with making those plays. They are lower percentage plays by nature — like 3-pointers in hoops — and too much emphasis on completing them can make your offense (especially your green QB) feel like a failure if that’s what he thinks he has to do to win every week.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 6, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
But you gotta try
so those safeties back up a lil’ bit.
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yeah if look at the game you'll see a ton of corners at the LOS scrimmage at the
start of the game and as it progressed they moved further and further back…Im just excited cause our offense has been one demisional now for far too long and I think once the QB is named things are gonna get opened up. If teams have to respect our passing game, Trent wont find it hard to get his.
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Great analysis, Bammer.
I think my man AJ did pretty well with only two really bad throws.
Also, regarding the idea that Sims suffered because of play calls – I would disagree. He had fewer attempts, but IMO he just didn’t look as good as AJ across the board in the attempts that he was given (excepting the pass over the middle to Maze (that was nice)).
The big takeaways from the A Day game (AJ – seemed to hold onto the ball for too long; Sims – had a really quick release) both seemed to flip in this game.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
The big takeaways from the A Day game (AJ – seemed to hold onto the ball for too long; Sims – had a really quick release) both seemed to flip in this game
I would actually say the exact opposite is true. AJ held on the ball and went through his progressions…I feel he was also hoping a deep route would come open. But he never made a poor decisions cause he held on to the ball. I.E. Throw into double coverage, allow a sack.
Sims on the other hand consistently held onto the ball far too long. Both his INT’s were a result of this. The one that almost went for a pick 6 was 100% his fault. He just waited too long. The one where he got hit and the ball sailed, again should of be thrown at least a second before it was. He just hesitated a little too much. This is something that will be fixed with more PT..hence why the QB battle isn’t over yet.
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McCarron...
…did throw into double-coverage at least once. It should have been picked, but it wasn’t. Still, I agree with your overall assessment.
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by NiceLittleSaturday on Sep 6, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
No you wouldn't
I would actually say the exact opposite is true.
You just completely agreed with me.
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oh shit...totally read that wrong..im tarded..
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Job well done.
Im conflicted about the KS game.
I feel we were not in what I would suppose to be our “normal” game strategy for the offense. We were experimenting with QB effectiveness and we never seem to get an offensive rythym going.
The play calling should change for Happy Valley. I expect more running, although PSU will definitely load the box and make us beat them through the air. Hey, pick yer poison.
Our passing game lacked progressions against KS. On several plays, as noted, the RB was open just past the LOS with no defenders in sight. Easy, low risk drop off pass for a soild gain.
Im expecting a low scoring affair this Satdee. I am a believer in this defense. Its the real deal IMO. We play conservatively on offense and pull away late 20-3.
We need to name a QB starter for PSU now.
Proud mini-Saban.
it kinda felt like
the coaches were calling plays based off wanting to see how the QB would handle that situation not necessarilly trying get us a TD or even a 1st down. They wanted to see what decision they’d make on a 3rd and 3. A slant route is called but should the ball go in that direction or should he check down and look for the open man? these are the types of lessons you can only learn during real game situations. I would pay a lot of money to able to sit in the QB game film break down meeting from this week..
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Agree, we played a real game as if it were a practice.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

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