Alabama Coach Comparison
by 12andCounting on Jan 10, 2012 12:05 PM CST
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After Alabama won the game last night I was reflecting on how great it is to be an Alabama fan right now. I got to wondering how the first 5 years of Coach Saban's Alabama career compared to the last 2 Alabama coaches to win championships. It turns out that the statistics are very similar. When Alabama is good, they are great.
Coach Paul W. Bryant
1958 5-4-1
1959 7-2-2
1960 8-1-2
1961 11-0-0 NC
1962 10-1-0
41-8-5 .759 1 NC
Coach Gene Stallings
1990 7-5-0
1991 11-1-0
1992 13-0-0 NC
1993 9-3-1
1994 12-1-0
52-10-1 .825 1 NC
Coach Nick Saban
2007 7-6
2008 12-2
2009 14-0 NC
2010 10-3
2011 12-1 NC
55-12 .821 2 NCs
Thanks to etnbama for catching a couple of mistakes.
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2007 Bama ended up 7-6
1992 you left out the NC and why would there be an asterisk?
"its that puke, inside of a pumpkin orange....and i dont like pumpkins"!
That's very interesting, I would say that Saban's
first 5 have the best so far…btw the Tide went 7-6 in ’07 not 5-6
The asterisk is the indicator I was using for NCs.
You are right, I messed up 2007. Thank you for pointing that out.
Don't forget the great Wallace Wade
1923 7-2-1
1924 8-1
1925 10-0 NC
1926 9-0-1 NC
1927 5-4-1
1928 6-3
1929 6-3
1930 10-0 NC
Right now I think Saban is just a hair behind Wade for 3rd all time greatest coach at Alabama.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
The AP poll didn't start until 1936
And even then it was a horrible joke for decades to come(still is really, but not near as bad as it was).
National Championships prior to 1936 were all retro championships usually based on math/computer polls. All schools claim these.
Or were you being sarcastic towards haters who try to claim Alabama doesn’t have 14?
It's the latter.
Sorry I forgot to say Go Go Gadget Sarcasm Font before that last post.
So... technically, Wallace Wade didn't exist either, right?
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 12, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
I would say the coaching rankings exactly follow the national championship totals
1. Bryant
2. Wade
3. Saban
4. Stallings / Thomas
I predict Saban will be a close second when he retires.
"You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"
by twominutedrill on Jan 10, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
I largely agree, but the impact of Thomas on Bryant would make me inclined to place him above Stallings. I love Stallings, but Thomas was the model for the greatest coach of all time.
We live in the city of dreams, we drive on the highway of fire, should we awake and find it gone, remember this our favorite town
Yup
Thomas was very underrated in Bama lore.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
And Thomas would have done more if not for his health.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Greatest UA coaches:
1. Bryant
2. Saban
3. Wade
4. Thomas
5. Stallings
6. Scott
7. Errbody else
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wade put Bama on the map
without Wade, there may never have been a Thomas, or a Bryant, or anything. Of course it’s a matter of splitting hairs, but that along with the NCs is why I put Wade above Saban at this point.
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
True. Few people realize the role of football at UA. Denny wanted to promote the university through football. Everybody knows Wade won the Rose Bowl, but the impact of that single game forever changed college football and for that matter pro football. That game put southern football on the map and without it we would likely not have the SEC domination of today.
After Bryant it gets tough to separate Wade, Saban, and Thomas. One thing to acknowledge is without the impact of Wade we have no Thomas, without Thomas we have no Bryant, etc.
We live in the city of dreams, we drive on the highway of fire, should we awake and find it gone, remember this our favorite town
Oh yeah?
I think the trustees (or whoever they were) put Bama on the map when they hired Denny!
(pauses)
(stops to think that if it wasn’t for the trustees’ mamas, they wouldn’t have been born)
(realizes this could go back to the beginning of time…mind asplodes)
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jan 12, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not...
…listing coaches based on their historical significance. The list simply indicates which coach is better than the next.
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
My thinking after 11/05
was if we won but did not get to NOLA 1/09, how remarkably similar Saban and Stallings’ first five years would be. Saban has caught Thomas, will he catch Wade?
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 11, 2012 1:32 AM CST reply actions
He already has...
…if you include his years at LSU (or surpassed him, if you credit him with 2007).
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
One interesting thing about that '07 LSU title
is that it means that every recruiting class Saban has signed since 2000 has won a national championship. Think about that as national signing day draws near, boys.
God bless our Dark Lord.
by CarrotTop4 on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not bad.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 AM CST up reply actions
True. But I meant at Alabama.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 AM CST up reply actions
If he fulfills his contract...
…he’ll pass Wade….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 13, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
*won out
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 AM CST reply actions
jasands myself
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
At what point in his greatness...
do we have to spell out the first name and bust out the middle initial? When shall he henceforth be known as Nicholas L. Saban?
Fourteen.
We already bust out the middle initial, thusly:
CNS
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
A**hole!
"It's not the size of the cat in the fight, it's size of the fight in the cat"
"Pep talks... only work when they touch that ember of truth learned the hardest possible way on the field.-Kleph
by thecalicocat on Jan 11, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
They had ties then.
He’d have gone at least 4-1 in OT, which would put him at .818. Even 3-2 would get him to .800.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
He’d have gone at least 4-1 in OT
This is not a very strong argument, since that’s really a guess. It would be better to say that if you throw out the ties and just look at the Ws and Ls, his winning percentage would have been .837. And Stallings would’ve been .839.
God bless our Dark Lord.
I know this is such a reach...
…but Ima take 25 years at .837 over 7 years at .839…especially if there’s a chance for an extra title or five….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
*meth
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
*purple drank
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
*purple rain...
…a.k.a. tiger tears….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
This is the Bear we're talking about.
Normal logic does not apply.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Oops, bad math.
4-1 would get him to .833, passing both.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
And a rare jasands from me.
COFFEE?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
You bet...
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 12, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
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