Representative of Alabama or LSU or Just Idiotic Stupidity?
Most of you have probably seen the video or read about this incident which is detailed more fully on a number of outlets. Degree or disagree with my positions, but if you read through my posts I type my thoughts and try to keep the focus on respect, athletics, and education regardless of one’s alma mater or team. Is it my age or rural mindset that sees this episode as idiotic no matter the location or logos on the shirts? I don’t see this as representative Alabama and LSU but of one kid that obviously drank too much and a group of other kids without any common sense or respect for themselves, let alone others. If I were to laugh at anything, it would be the lack of endowment bestowed on the one boy because that ain’t even enough to use as bait for anything in the swamp. I’m just wondering if I’m already senile for finding this disgusting on all fronts. If not finding this funny means senility, I’m happy to be in the club.
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I totally degree with you
It was a woman who drove me to drink and I never got a chance to thank her.
by bamagary on Jan 18, 2012 3:39 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I completely agree that its classless and dumb
But for the LSU fans that are up in arms over it, I’ve seen LSU fans do worse to LSU fans at tailgates.
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
I find nothing funny about this.
And I hope the guy who abused the drunk gets arrested. The worse thing is that none of the idiots standing around said “Hey, man don’t do that.”
I think our society as a whole is willing to do just about anything to get a laugh and then post it on Youtube. At some point someone needs to draw a line, but I guess there are few people with guts left.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
I must be demented
I find the video very funny and as for the passed out LSU Fan who cares. The guy will never come forward and say “Hey I’m guy who got tea bagged.”
Did the Bama fan go too far, sure but who cares. If I was on the jury I’d say if you can’t handle the drink leave it alone. Laughing my ass off just thinking about the poor drunk ba$tard
"Two things were certain in our household: Alabama football and church on Sunday. We were raised to believe in God and root for anyone that was playing against Auburn" Pam Swinney
Speaking as an Alabama Alum
They are some within our fanbase, that obviously need to be culled from the herd. This incident and the Harvey Updike one are the two most glaring examples.
"Never start a fight with an old man...if he's too old to fight, he'll probably just kill you."
That is representative of drunk college students and Bourbon Street
not Alabama fans.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Agree
Videos of drunk folks participating in this exact activity have been around since the internetz was invented. It also occurred long before the advent of cheap, ubiquitous recordable devices. While I find the fact that this occurred not cool, it by no means is something to freak out about.
by ApothecaryMark on Jan 18, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
It was bad...
but at least he didn’t kick the guy in the face.
by TiderInTN on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I'm with you Pam...
disgusting on all fronts.
You can't determine what people say about you, only what they should say.
At least people stopped blaming the players as some earlier reports implied
One of his “friends” will give him up. Kicks to the head, felony vs. misdemeanor charges, synthetic weed, real weed, and on, and on. Right now the only “negatives” I want to hear about SEC football are progress reports on players having to rehab physical injuries.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 PM CST reply actions
It is disgusting.
I believe it was just an attention “poker game” where the stakes kept getting raised… everybody wanted to keep going further and further and who knows how far that it would have went if the Krystal’s guy hadn’t come out. This is an instance where I feel like public canning should be implemented. This guy needs the whipping his parents apparently never gave him.
People like this ruin the game. They betray their own team by dragging them into the mud merely by the shirt/ they wear. If they really loved their teams they would think about what they represent when they put on those clothes!
And lastly for all the idiots that would do something like this: *all phones have cameras and everyone has a phone!!! If someone is there assume you are being recorded!!!!*
What the hell is an aluminum falcon?
Pam
while I am appaled by such behavior, I am not naive to believe that such a video exists—I have seen it. This could have easily been any given night on Bourbon Street with or without the college gameday gear on or in reverse. While I am not condoning what these individuals did, but w/o cell phone videos and youtube not one of us would have known about this.
Great that they are looking for this individual(s). But, is it what one would call a sex crime? There was the idiot LSU dude who gets so shit faced that he has to pass out on a Krystal counter—shocker here right. Then, more drunk exhuberant Bama fans join in on the fracas. Word was that this same guy was standing outside Krystal dishing out some strong language to passing Bama fans before going inside. My notice for the NOLA PD would be that they had better find the culprit who sucker punched the Bama fan in the jaw breaking it—wired up shut for 6-8 weeks.I would tell all who knows a name to keep quite until there is some sign of an investigation taking place on this even more serious crime.
Sir or Madame (think you graduated in 1992, but can't guess anything else by screename)
It may be a different case than to the one you are referring, but I believe that one thug (confessed) and another alleged thug have been apprehended by the NOPD for a series of battery and assault incidents and pickpockets following the BCS game. One suspect has been connected to the LSU student who received a concussion (student was not at the game and not even a fan of American football but in NOLA for a bachelor’s party). The suspect allegedly targeted people wearing Bama or LSU shirts since they were "more distracted" than others.
I’m from Cajun country, SWLA, not NOLA, but I disapprove of the conduct in this video and the violence you described. Whether someone is wearing a school shirt does not make a difference in my mind. Some news sources linked this incident as problems with the particular schools. In my opinion, it is the fault of the individuals involved whether they mock a drunk, anyone for that matter, or hit someone and run away regardless of if the victim were hurt or not. As for the individual in the video, the charge is left up to the legal system. At the very least, it falls within indecent exposure, and the insertion of the fingers is battery. If anyone knows the identity of any offender, be it someone who commits battery, shoplifts, stabs, shoots, or whatever, and keeps silent, it is aiding and abetting in my opinion. Yes a broken jaw (been there not by crime but courtesy of a bat in softball where my catcher’s mask still took full force of the blow) and having something stolen without injury are two different things. That’s why penalties are different, but the feeling of outrage and violation as the victim is present regardless.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
By the way,
If any child of mine had ever gotten that drunk, he or she would have enjoyed their hangover working outside in our wonderful humidity. I would supply a galvanized bucket for them to fill at the hand pump to keep them hydrated during the day and night and depending on the interests of family or friends invited over to witness, we would have blasted some good ole music to help soothe the young’uns little headache while they worked.
Abandon a friend that drunk or in need of help, we can always do something with extra firewood, and getting to work a two person buck saw by yourself makes you appreciate helping one another out versus being that lone bobcat left to fend for yourself. It’s wonderful how using some of Granddad’s or Grandma’s old tools, results in greater appreciation and less complaining about the same work using power equipment. That’s even more true for me, husband, and brothers than it is for our kids.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 19, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Do we call this a
Luzianne Tea Bag? Maybe there’s an endorsement deal out there. Seriously folks, lighten up. The kid who’s passed out has no clue what’s going on, and frankly he’s as much to blame as anybody for drinking himself to that point in the first place. They all look like a bunch of everyday morons to me.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Ummm
Being passed out and not having a clue what is going on does not mean he gave consent to have someone rub their balls in his face. I am sure wannabe rapists love your theory though.
LOL
This is hardly a rape. Typical hazing crap.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Yes
Hazing though usually implies consent (I signed up for a frat/club, I will likely be hazed). You don’t haze complete strangers in public.
Good news I can rub my balls on the next passed out stranger and say: I was hazing him/her! He/she should have known if they passed out someone might stick their dick on them!
Do I think LSU fans acting like this is some sort of example of how all Alabama fans are classless. Hell no. But I do think the teabagger should be arrested and charged.
Be careful not to doze
or it’s balls across the nose. Sorry, I’d have probably laughed my ass off if I saw some drunk bastard do that do another drunk.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Unless
it was a passed out girl I guess. Drunk passed out dude, funny to rub balls in his face.
Again, I don’t really like the crazed indignation by some LSU fans, but I don’t think it should just be laughed off either.
Yes, if it was a girl
I would have put a stop to it. But frankly, the dude probably wouldn’t have done it to a girl to begin with.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I donno
I think you could pretty much equate with getting black out drunk on bourbon street with signing up for a frat as far as implied consent. They don’t seem that different to me.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
Everybody I ever partied with knew better than to pass out...
At the very least, he’d wake up with a sharpie hitler mustache and a dick drawn on their forehead.
"14 is important mainly because now it makes 15 within reach."-5026
This is Sad very sad.
I am as die hard an Alabama fan as there is and never would dream of doing something so freaking stupid. No matter how drunk I got.
I am a member of the Sabanation Roll!!Tide!!
Also I do not blame LSU fans for getting upset
……………..put the shoe on our foot we would be blasting away as well
I am a member of the Sabanation Roll!!Tide!!
Sad all the way around!
Sad that a young man feels the need to drink so much that he passes out on a damn Krystal counter.
Sad that instead of trying to help an individual that may have been on the verge of alcohol poisoning, everyone could only take pics and stack trash on his head.
Sad that some sick SOB thinks that it is OK to rub his genitals on another person.
Sex crime? no. Stupid, sick and sad is what this is.
Is this indicative of either fan base? No. This is nothing more than young and dumb kids. I say kids because obviously these people never grew up. Also, they do appear pretty young.
"its that puke, inside of a pumpkin orange....and i dont like pumpkins"!
For all the LSU fans feigning outrage
Just remember that your QB for the next season got kicked out of UGA for a sexual assault.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
My outrage/disgust
has nothing to do with the schools or players. It was the situation and act itself. I do not like how many media outlets are promoting this incident as a part of the game, and not simply as actions by a bunch of idiots who might not be able to walk a mile, let alone run one. Just because someone wears a team’s shirt does not mean they are associated with that team.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 19, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I totally agree with you Pam
When you put on an organizations colors or logo you are representing that organization whether you are on their payroll or not. In this case this person was representing the Alabama fan base. Even when you are not wearing an organizations colors you are representing yourself all the time. I was a police officer for over 20 years and spent the vast majority of that time walking around in public in uniform. I became very aware, very quickly, of the importance of representing that uniform with respect. Whenever someone looked at me, for that split second in time, in their mind they were looking at every cop in the nation because I was representing a group. I may be wrong about this but at least that attitude and belief kept me in check for a long time.
If a person has no better sense or self respect than to expose his ugly twins in public and no more respect for his fellow person than to rub them on his face then he needs to just represent himself, not an entire group of people. Don’t make an entire fan base pay for his idiocy.
BTW, in most states, public exposure of genitalia can be considered a sex crime. Not likely to hold up in court as a sex crime unless they are exposed to children but once you rub your junk on an unconscious person’s face it takes on a whole new meaning. It all comes down to intent at that point.
"The last time we saw a Tiger beaten that bad, someone had to take the golf club away from his wife" Chumley
The whole "Sex crime" things is BS
if you’re going to treat all sex offenders as pariahs and then include stuff like this. Would I like to know if a serial rapist moves next door? Hell yes. Do I need to know if my neighbor got drunk and teabagged a dude on bourbon street? Hell no.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
I don't disagree with you on the sex crime issue, I am just telling you what the law says.
"The last time we saw a Tiger beaten that bad, someone had to take the golf club away from his wife" Chumley
by LifelongBammer on Jan 20, 2012 4:42 AM CST up reply actions
LifelongBammer can't say how much I respect your profession.
LifelongBammer thanks for your service in law enforcement. That is one career that I know I could not handle. I was amazed the other day in a small local restaurant, one of my brother’s former students who is now a Parish deputy came up to talk. During our conversation, he thought he recognized the parents of one of his old high school friends. After walking to their table, they became loud and offensive before he even said a thing. “He had no right to interrupt their meal, they had done nothing, go chase real criminals, etc.” The deputy then took off his sunglasses, and said “I’m Robert ______, I must be mistaken, but I thought I graduated high school with your son Ben _______.” They then looked at him and said, sorry Bobby we didn’t recognize you and thought you were just a cop. I’ll never understand how they could be friendly and respectful to “Bobby,” but total jerks to “Deputy Robert.” Have a great 2012 LifelongBammer.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 20, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Did you really
just equate walking around in a Bama t-shirt with walking around in a police uniform? Seriously? The police uniform represents an authority figure, the t-shirt says “I cheer for a football team.” As I’ve said many times before, if some idiot wants to brand me and a couple million other people because we cheer for the same team as some fool who makes an ass of himself publicly then so be it. They aren’t smart enough for their opinion to matter.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
No: Giving credit to law enforcement and difficulties they should not have to face
To pull from a comment near the top
There was the idiot LSU dude who gets so shit faced that he has to pass out on a Krystal counter—shocker here right. Then, more drunk exhuberant Bama fans join in on the fracas. Word was that this same guy was standing outside Krystal dishing out some strong language to passing Bama fans before going inside. My notice for the NOLA PD would be that they had better find the culprit who sucker punched the Bama fan in the jaw breaking it—wired up shut for 6-8 weeks.I would tell all who knows a name to keep quite until there is some sign of an investigation taking place on this even more serious crime.
If citizens are unwilling to come forward with information about any crime in which they have information, how can the police do their job? The reason a suspect in the exposure case was apprehended so quickly was because of the video evidence and then others taking the time to identify the individual.
As for the impact idiots have on the majority of us, I agree with you that their opinion does not matter. Sadly what happens though, is some people start to believe based on that type of behavior. Again, why care? It hurts the credibility of the school, academically and athletically. The best faculty who have no interest in athletics may take jobs at other schools simply from the assumption that actions like this idiot’s are condoned by the administration. Parents of a recruit might guide their children away from the school for the same reason.
A police uniform should represent an authority figure. My comment to LifelongBammer was meant to convey how I’m discovering more and more that idea of respecting police is eroding. That’s not just in urban areas and among the young, but also in a rural area such as the one Bobby works and with individuals old enough to be this deputy’s parents.
Tadpole, I think we are on the same page and any misunderstanding is a result of each of us reading and doing too many different things at once. Best to you and yours.
by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
I was actually replying to LifelongBammer there.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Kinda late joining in on the discussion here.
Been busy and only discovered the news of this by accident.
At the very least this unemployed bum should be banned from all future Alabama sporting events.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM CST reply actions
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