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As someone on Twitter pointed out

New Orleans is averaging almost a ONE PER DAY MURDER RATE. I’m glad we got to the bottom of this teabagging incident though – SERIOUS BUSINESS.

"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by GeauxCrimson on Jan 19, 2012 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

Sexual assault is serious business.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

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Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

it wasn't sexual assault though

Saying it was is disrespectful to the thousands of people who are molested/raped every day.

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by bammer on Jan 20, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

No, it is sexual assault, and thus not disrespectful.

There was no consent given by someone unconscious.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not trying to down play this act

I’m saying the amount of time and manpower, and more importantly PUBLICITY, that was devoted to this investigation is asinine. New Orleans has much bigger problems than investigating and prosecuting something that goes on EVERY WEEKEND on Bourbon St. MUCH, MUCH worse goes on there on a regular basis in the name of debauchery, and never gets so much as a threat of arrest much less actual prosecution. If this were a video of two average Joes in street clothes, this doesn’t even get touched by the D.A. or the police.

"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by GeauxCrimson on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

This is being driven by LSU people upset over losing to Bama and then only way they can get back is to fry this guy.

Now, what he did was bad. And if they make an example of him so be it. But if they do put this guy in jail they need to start arresting a lot of folks at Mardi Gras, which they are not going to do.

There are some lessons to be learned here. #1. Be EXTRA careful what you do on a football road trip. #2. Don’t film every stupid thing you do and then put it on You Tube and #3. When in public keep your pants zipped.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 20, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Amount of attention is sad but

The publicity about this incident came from the media and not the NOPD. The actions taken by Orleans Parish were consistent with any other investigation. Unlike with surveillance camera images, in this case, the public had first access to the footage in that it was posted on YouTube. I cannot find the link, but news of the video surfaced first in Alabama (possibly Auburn country).

Next, some Twitter user posted on Sunday that he is the Alabama fan in the video, saying it’s “awesome” that the popular sports blog Deadspin reported on the incident. In response to a tweet saying the assault would send him to jail, the Alabama fan tweeted, “My dad is rich…I wont be going to jail…#RollDamnTide boy.”

The University of Alabama then released a two-sentence statement saying it would check into the video and “appropriately deal with any student who might have been involved.” At that point communications between the University and the NOPD began in an effort to identify the idiot. Next, "The poster of the “person of interest” was sent as an attachment to an email headlined “After Further Review and Investigation, the NOPD is now asking the Public for their Assistance in Identifying the Person of Interest in this Video.”

I agree that there are far more serious crimes, but the NOPD and Orleans Parish did not spend additional resources on this event. Media, especially those trashing Alabama and the University of Alabama itself to limit damage to its reputation were the major differences here. Sadly, too many people simply refuse to get involved or assist with investigations of other crimes. Even people here on the other post wrote that they would not ID the suspect until there were findings made in other crimes. Others try to simply toss it aside as a Bourbon Street thing. Consider, however, that the vast majority of people apprehended and convicted of crimes during Mardi Gras are not from the area. It’s the wrongful perception that you can lose common sense and dignity because it is New Orleans.

This event was not LSU and Alabama. It was a fool who drank too much and possibly could have died from alcohol poisoning. It was some foolish college aged kids who found the situation funny. The alleged suspect is a 30+ year old man who for whatever reason wants to hang out with college age kids.

The media outlet being most supportive of the University of Alabama is the LSU student media. They have been emphasizing that those involved were wearing apparel representing the two schools, but that the actions are neither acceptable nor representative of the code of conduct expected by each university.

I wish other crimes received this type of publicity and number of people coming forward. Unfortunately, law enforcement doesn’t seem to get that type of assistance and respect in a number of cases. They are bad guys until you are the one in need. If people would just have a little common sense and responsibility, law enforcement could apprehend these thugs. They definitely do not represent the majority of society, so why do so many, far too many, crimes go unsolved? I’m looking in the mirror. Even with my "pretty" face, it is a sad reflection that I see. Blessings to a law enforcement officers, first responders, and fire fighters for the sacrifices you make.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 20, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Low

has an excellent article at ESPN how this vile act does not represent most Alabama or SEC fans, yet the public opinion of Alabama and SEC haters is negatively reinforced.

Permaban this fool from all future Alabama sporting events.

Ironically, he brags about his rich daddy, but his uncle turns him in.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

See
has an excellent article at ESPN how this vile act does not represent most Alabama or SEC fans, yet the public opinion of Alabama and SEC haters is negatively reinforced.

Who gives a damn? They hate us anyway. I simply can’t understand people who want to go on a crusade to try and prove that the Bama fanbase doesn’t have a bunch of assholes in it. Guess what? IT DOES. So does every other fanbase, moreso in the south because the folks up north generally have greater passion for their pro sports. Doesn’t mean we all are, and anyone who doesn’t get that is too stupid for me to care about.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 4:03 AM CST up reply actions  

But the stereotyping goes beyond athletics,

keep in mind that many of the stupid people are the ones who make the decisions which impact all of us. The South has suffered from a bad rap since the early 1800s. As a result, our industry and education levels lagged behind the rest of the country making us having to play a game of catch up. When only the extremes are focused upon, the majority of those in the middle suffer the consequences. It’s not just the Bama fanbase, nor is it an LSU attack. Some of the most pro Bama fanbase, team, and University statements are being made by the LSU student press.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Well then

I guess the North is full of child molesters, right? And I think you have it backwards- poor public education across much of the south has caused the negative stereotypes, not vice versa.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

These negative stereotypes are not new to the 21st or even 20th century.

They are a product of antebellum times and the aftermath of Reconstruction in the 19th century. Through the 19th century the per capita income in the South was approximately 1/3 that of the nation. The aftermath of Radical Reconstruction and following governments whether called Redeemer, Bourbon, or Readjustors brought the one party system to the South. As a result of negative feelings in both North and South, the South became a virtual colony of the North much like the original 13 had been of England. Attempts to better Southern education such as the Blair Bill in US Congress were defeated by Southern Congressmen on party lines. All Southern industry, except for textiles, became subsidiaries to Northern industry. For example, Birmingham Steel went from the top to merely being a component of companies in Pittsburg.

None of this happened overnight, but over the course of time as people forgot the real history of the hardships in the Old South and based decisions on what they wanted to believe in the New South. Heck Southern agriculture remained primitive well into the 20th century while the Midwestern agriculture flourished despite attempts such as that by Knapp to assist the South because of Southern political stereotyping. If not for the boll weevil crossing the Rio Grande and getting into Southern cotton, who knows if primitive methods would have continued.

These initial problems were both the products and continued degradation of Southern education which in turn resulted in the South running from behind and trying to catch up. The University of Alabama used to have an excellent Professor of Southern History in the late (RIP) Gary Mills, a Louisiana native, and Mississippi State PhD., who did a lot of research in my area on the Sugar Cane industry.

You can look at any number of sources to verify what I wrote above. Aside for Professor Mills, another former UA History Professor, Grady McWhiney, has several books. Then you have the classics by individuals such as C. Vann Woodward, George Brown Tindall, and though not rated on the same level as Woodward and Tindall because they are still alive, two of my personal favorite authors and researchers: Pete Daniel of the Smithsonian for Southern Agriculture and E. Stanly Godbold (retired Mississippi State) for Southern culture and politics through biographies.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Still haven't shown me

one reason that I should care.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

My reasoning

at end of thread. Could not initially get a drop down box with reply here.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry I was late to the arguing with JTad party! :)
Who gives a damn? They hate us anyway. I simply can’t understand people who want to go on a crusade to try and prove that the Bama fanbase doesn’t have a bunch of assholes in it. Guess what? IT DOES.

This doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t take steps to try to prevent things like this from happening under the banner of “Alabama football”. We should want to TRY to keep our image as clean and classy as possible. And no, you can’t stop idiots from being idiots, but you can make it clear that these things aren’t tolerated.

Not to say that this guy is on the same level as Muslim extremists, but if I can use an allegory, what if a moderate Muslim had posted this about the response to a terrorist bombing:

Who gives a damn? They hate us anyway. I simply can’t understand people who want to go on a crusade to try and prove that Islam doesn’t have a bunch of assholes in it. Guess what? IT DOES.

I think reasonable people have a duty to speak up when members of their group (even if they didn’t choose to associate with them) do something wrong.

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I think reasonable people have a duty to speak up when members of their group (even if they didn’t choose to associate with them) do something wrong in their name.

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 25, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

This event was not LSU and Alabama.

That’s exactly my argument though. The publicity given to this, no matter if NOPD is looking for publicity or not, is PURELY because it was an Alabama fan doing it to an LSU fan. Had this been plain clothes, run-of-the-mill Bourbon street idiots, NOTHING COMES OF THIS. It doesn’t make the news, it doesn’t get talked about on Twitter, NOBODY tries to find out who ANYONE in the video is, both the victim and the criminal go about their everyday lives, the D.A. doesn’t actively pursue the case and press charges, the local media doesn’t put headlines and breaking news videos of the guy being arrested. NOTHING HAPPENS.

I live in Baton Rouge. I’ve spent more than a few of my weekends on Bourbon. Stupid stuff like this goes on EVERY WEEKEND there. It’s not just a big event (Mardi Gras, BCS, etc) thing. New Orleans knows it happens, and they do nothing about it, because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Y’ALL! Likewise, I’ve spent many a Saturday in the shadows of Death Valley, where I’ve seen LSU fans do just as serious “assault” to LSU fans and its all fun and games. No cops called, no outcries of rage, nobody arrested and sent to jail.

"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by GeauxCrimson on Jan 23, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

This part OK
Had this been plain clothes, run-of-the-mill Bourbon street idiots, NOTHING COMES OF THIS.

Agree 100 percent with the above.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 23, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

This part, however,
The publicity given to this, no matter if NOPD is looking for publicity or not, is PURELY because it was an Alabama fan doing it to an LSU fan.


This part, however, I disagree in reference to local media. This event, unlike others, was placed on YouTube and somehow became popular. Someone claiming to be an Alabama fan took credit for it on Twitter.

True LA media is covering the event, but the pushing for action against the suspect is coming from the University of Alabama. Originally, NOPD refused to take action without a “victim” coming forward. That stance only changed with the statements and request for further investigation from the University of Alabama.

Because of this idiot, Alabama has to take the time to protect its image. That’s not fair, but public perception whether true or false means $$$$ for a business or university.

Other similar situations: (I never saw the shirt) the store which made some shirt that some felt in bad taste. The University of Alabama had to issue a statement that the school did not authorize the shirt nor did it support the message.

Notre Dame going after some small high school because the high school mascot had similarities to the Notre Dame mascot.

LSU and Tyrann Mathieu had to file papers in federal court to have cease and desist notices issued, and published an advisory, regarding Honey Badger articles. As most hopefully know, NCAA rules prohibit the sale of a student-athlete’s name or likeness for commercial purposes. If a student-athlete’s name or image is being used without his permission, he or she must take steps to stop such activity in order to retain athletic eligibility.

An amateur player can commit practically any criminal act and still retain his or her elgibility. If someone else, however, uses the athletes name or image to profit and the athlete or school becomes aware that someone is profitting, it is up to the athlete and school to take action. Failure to do so results in the loss of the athlete’s elgibility and NCAA sanctions against the school.

That’s not fair, but it is an example of how a school must protect its image and reputation.

Some might not like to think that a random idiot’s conduct does not impact them. Unfortunately, we live in a society where some wrongfully get prejudged as “guilty by association,” which is why UA had to take steps against this action on Bourbon Street. LSU had to take steps because of all the “Honey Badger” nickname BS. Everyone knows that one bad apple spoils the bunch, and I believe that we all have that responsibility to deal with a bad apple since the rot will eventually reach the other apples.

As for local media, the LSU student media remains the most pro Alabama source about this episode. What I’ve read from Birmingham, Huntsville, and even Tuscaloosa sources has mentioned the “Alabama and LSU fan” descriptions the most. LSU student media has focused on the event, and the impact of the YouTube and Twitter actions bringing such attention.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 23, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

LSU and Tyrann Mathieu had to file papers in federal court to have cease and desist notices issued, and published an advisory, regarding Honey Badger articles. As most hopefully know, NCAA rules prohibit the sale of a student-athlete’s name or likeness for commercial purposes. If a student-athlete’s name or image is being used without his permission, he or she must take steps to stop such activity in order to retain athletic eligibility.

You guys do know “Honey Badger” isn’t his real name, right? ;)

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I hate that Honey Badger moniker but the NCAA can be idiotic.

NCAA regulations get real nit-picky if anyone tries to profit off an amateur athlete, including the athlete, but NOT including the NCAA or any of its corporate sponsors. It does not have to be a legal name; anything whether jersey number, nicknames, etc., fall under their umbrella. Linked is one of the LSU statements which offers a few examples.

LSU Compliance

As another example of the idiocy at times, years ago we (USL softball) visited a senior citizens community. Autographed pictures, pennants, etc., were OK. A really nice old gentleman had had the opportunity to play against Eddie Feigner (The King and His Court) back in the 60s. After telling us amazing stories, the gentleman wanted to swing a bat. We went outside, our pitcher threw a slow pitch style ball, and he smashed it. At his urging, I then got behind the plate, and she started throwing some real stuff. Anything in the strike zone he hit all sweet, and he had a great eye in rarely swinging at something out the zone. Well an employee of the community took some video footage, and they used about a 10 second clip in a TV commercial. Because someone at the NCAA had too much time, we all had to endure interviews to prove that we were not profiting off this activity or endorsing the retirement community. This happened even though we wore Tee shirts and not uniforms. Like I wrote here or on another board, commit practically any crime, but do not profit or know that someone other than the NCAA or its corporate sponsors are making profit if you want to retain eligibility.

If you are not familiar with Eddie Feigner, linked is a YouTube video. Saw the King twice, but never had the opportunity to get struck out or more sadly a chance to catch his pitches for an inning or two. Amazing individual RIP.

King and His Court

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

yep cause being

teabagged and raped are the same thing…

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by bammer on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

and to be clear

this guy is a piece of shit. He is now up there with Updyke in my book BUT I have known people who have been sexually assualted and im sorry..What happened to this guy isn’t even close. Is it terrible and embarrassing? Yep but no where near the same level.

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by bammer on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I feel where you're coming from, dude, but you're wrong.

“Assault” covers a wide range of behavior. If I slap you in the face, I’ve committed battery (legally speaking). If I hit you in the face with a fist 10 times, I’ve still committed battery. It would not be disrespectful to the guy that needed jaw surgery to say that the guy that was slapped had battery committed against him.

The punishments will likely (appropriately) not be the same, but it’s still lumped into the same category.

Also, no one is trying to say that this is close to rape. Obviously rape is way, way worse than this.

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by Slice of Life on Jan 20, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

The difference is one of degree, not of kind.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

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by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Ironically, he could become a rape victim.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Problem is

you don’t get labeled as an “Assaulter” and have to jump through all kinds of hoops and become a pariah like you so for being a “Sexual Offender”.

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by Zoltar on Jan 20, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

But the punishments are not fitting

The D.A. is seeking a 7+ year prison sentence for this guy. Granted what he did was extremely dumb and disrespectful, but does he really deserve to be lumped into the same category and prison as the guy who ACTUALLY RAPED someone?

"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant

by GeauxCrimson on Jan 23, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Well I saw where they wanted

Updyke to take 13 years in a plea bargain.

To be honest what I think we are seeing is public outcry setting punishments way to high. And, a lot of Bama fans are crying the loudest for strict punishment.

Personally I hate to ruin a human’s life for one stupid act that actually did little harm to anyone as both of these acts in reality did little harm to people. I’m serious if someone put their junk on my face while I was knocked out I think I could actually get over it. Now, if the guy has some money, as I have heard he has, 50k might help me get over it quicker.

But really 7 years in jail will change this guy and ways we don’t want him changed. And give Harvey 13 you might as well take his life now and get it over with.

Somewhere someone has got to decide to treat these cases the same way they would be treated if this were not all over the news and if football rivalries were not involved. These are these guys first offenses and they are not violent criminals. Stupid yes, violent no.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 23, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m OK with Harvey getting 13 years.

As for Brian getting 7, it’s better than 25-99.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Being an idiot doesn’t mean jail time or life-long punishment.

Updyke needs to pay for the property damage that he caused, plus court costs, fine, etc that fits the crime. Period.

The Bagger punishment is a bit harder to decide, maybe a monetary compensation to the victim, a public apology, court costs, and possibly a few days in jail since it was a violation of basic human rights (not to be touched unless consent is given). But that’s about as far as I’d go in this case. Both were drunk and stupid, they could work together and both probably work out an agreeable punishment. Why we think the dumba$$es in gov’t know how to settle disputes is beyond me.

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by JokerBama on Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Updyke broke environmental laws, as well, didn't he?

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 25, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Isn't rape 25-99 in Louisiana?

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(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 23, 2012 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Bammer I agree with you.

I’ve known rape victims and they don’t come back from that very well and if they do it takes years of counseling etc.

This incident should not take that long or be that hard for the victim to overcome. In fact in Boy Scouts, of all places, I had something similar happen to me on a camp out when I was but a young lad. I got over it as soon as it was over. I didn’t like it. I wanted to beat the guy up, but it did not scar me for life. The worse thing for this victim is not the act itself as much as the embarrassment of being on You Tube.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I’ve known girls who’ve been victims of

rape, attempted rape, and who have been molested as children. Far worse than this. But as this guy was unconscious, he was sexually assaulted according to Louisiana law. Minor compared to other formsvof sexual abuse. That he was humiliated in the international media makes it worse. Even if don’t know see his face, he and his friends and acquaintances do.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

At Outkick the Coverage

Louisiana law is quoted to support the interpretation of this act as sexual battery. However, I believe the 25-99 year sentence range would be overkill. He needs to plea bargain. However, if it were possible to tack on a wee bit of extra time to whatever he might serve for being stupid enough to be recorded for being so stupid, I’d be cool with that.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Bingo.

Bammer, I am continually amazed at how often I agree with you.

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by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 3:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Man with no brains

not hard to find

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 19, 2012 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

Funny

I was also wondering if this was the bagman that Danny Sheridan was talking about. Who knew he’d be ‘revealed’ in N.O.

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by JokerBama on Jan 20, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That made me LOL.

Lol.

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by DMaguire27 on Jan 20, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Ben Blackerby?

Thank god for mountain brook’s breaking news at 5. Lol

by clockster on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 AM CST reply actions  

If this suspect is the criminal,

it’s too bad that he is a father. His child now has an unemployed father who may be going tp jail, perhaps even raped.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 20, 2012 8:27 AM CST reply actions  

I think I may know this guy.

Well, not exactly. I’m also from Smiths Station, and I remember a guy by that name who was a year or two behind me in school. I’d have to go to Mom’s and look in the old yearbook to be sure. At any rate, you can all rest assured that he has no more connection to UA than Harvey Updyke does. Only a handful of folks from my high school attend Alabama in any given year, and I knew every one who was a student there at the same time I was. This clown is just a “sidewalk fan” (as much as I hate that term).

It’s too bad there’s not more attention being paid to the UA fan who was stabbed by an LSU fan after the game.

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by DMaguire27 on Jan 20, 2012 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

Had not heard about the stabbing.

And to be honest if the guy is from Smiths Station and he is a Bama fan in a way this tells you about him. That is big time Auburn country and the only Bama fans over there are either 1- Extremely intelligent, 2- Family connections to Bama , or 3- Losers who can’t get along with anyone. Since everyone else is an AU fan, forget them I’ll be a Bama fan. The guy is obviously not #1, I’m betting on #3. In fact he may have just become a Bama fan for this game.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 20, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You're from Smiths?

I’m so, so sorry… I kid I kid… Now, if you were from Beulah, I’d definitely apologize. haha Meth capital of the region.

50, I’m with you on your #3 and I’m thinking he became a “Bama fan” just for that game as well. Either way, he’s scum.

by Fredonia on Jan 20, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I just have been there long enough to figure it out

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Jan 21, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Originally

but I’ve spent the majority of my adult life in Tuscaloosa. (12 of the past 15 years.)

"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
-Adam Savage

by DMaguire27 on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Mr. or Ms. J Tadpole

The sole reason that I care about the fate of others and how we and others are perceived is that in somehow, someway, everyone is affected whether negligibly, positively, or negatively by every action or inaction whether we want to believe it or not. If we were truly independent of the perceptions and actions of others, why are there any laws or societal mores? Why are there worries about the deficit? Why worry about the economy?

Sadly we have become a society which gives more publicity to the corrupt than to the outstanding. Why are we subjected more about the weed incidents of Kirkpatrick and Mathieu? Wouldn’t it be better to publicize the sacrifices and giving back to the community of players such as Jones (I might be mistaken on ID but I believe he is the UA lineman) and Claiborne. Both Jones and Claiborne were also All Americans and definitely the same caliber athlete, yet their volunteer work is unknown to most.

Why care about the actions and even perceptions of others regardless of relevancy or idiocy? I don’t have great words, but I have two statements learned at home and in the classroom that were applied to the concept of teamwork over individualism on the softball field.

Each man’s death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee. John Donne

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -
and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemoller

Now that’s from a country girl in Louisiana, and why I try to give players reasonable doubt and respect regardless of if they are the opponents of the teams I happen to support. Unless you have been there, it is impossible to understand fully, and sadly we there don’t realize it at the time, but years from now players like Richardson and McCarron will remember little from the game on 9 January 2012 even when looking at a photograph. A photograph of them at the hospital such as those in the video link I posted with those children, however, will bring to mind intricate details which those players will never forget.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry.

Somebody wants to lump me in with an idiot because I cheer for the same team/am from the same state/practice the same religion/eat at the same restaurant/wipe my ass with the same brand of toilet paper… I could care less. They are the closed minded idiota, not me.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

OK

So if I’m interpreting correctly, everyone should only care about what impacts them directly and if someone is in need, uninformed, or close minded it is their problem and not mine. That reasoning is OK, but I do not hold to it.

When I first started reading and posting on this board, I made it clear that I was an LSU supporter, from Acadiana (i.e. South Louisiana rural swamp country), and while my brothers were LSU athletes, I played softball at USL (ULL today). Based on the “Pam ain’t a corndog” and similar comments and recommendations on a number of my comments and posts, I’d like to think that my participation has changed some perceptions here about LSU fans and possibly women knowing a little something about sports and football.

Honestly, I could care less what anyone on this or any board thinks of me as an individual. What I care about is that groups of which I am I member either through birth or choice are not perceived wrongly because I would not take the time to emphasize the positives through my words and more importantly actions. Looking at the course of human history, more battles have been fought and more lives lost because of what someone “believed to be or to have been the situation / truth / event” than over something that actually happened or had a base in reality.

I care because any negative belief or event simply creates an additional obstacle that someone, regardless of if I know the person or not, has to overcome. Life is rough enough, and I would hope that everyone I contact younger than me has more opportunities for success than I. If that means talking to brick walls until they crumble, taking the old shot putt, or doing my best pancake the catcher or block home plate approach to a brick wall, be it real or in the form of a stupid idiot or someone affected by ignorance and not stupidity.

That’s the pain of discipline.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Good luck.
What I care about is that groups of which I am I member either through birth or choice are not perceived wrongly because I would not take the time to emphasize the positives through my words and more importantly actions.

Pointless and impossible battle in my book.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Which isn't to say

that we should behave in a manner consistent with the negative stereotypes. This conversation started around the idea that some folks would equate us with the teabagger. I say the hell with them in that case, they’re too stupid for me to worry about. That’s all.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 21, 2012 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Not impossible

and certainly never pointless in my book to emphasize the positives. Like in coaching, a player will never listen to a coach he or she does not respect. Likewise, a coach who teaches bad technique or fails in the public image department rarely stays on the job. Who was the former UA hire who was fired before coaching his first game? I might be mistaken, but he did not commit a criminal act but was seen in some Florida strip club. You and I will disagree which is OK, but I always think the negative actions of others will somehow affect my life. Best and good luck to you J Tadpole.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Mike Price.

″It’s Rollin’ Baby! It’s Rollin!″

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 23, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Dubose

lost the respect of his staff for lying about his affair.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 23, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Guessing there must be some editing software which created the strikeouts

Strikeouts not from Niemoller’s writings or intended in my typing of his words.

by PamfromLouisiana on Jan 21, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

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