POLL: Was the 2009 or 2011 Championship More Satisfying?
Asking which championship you prefer is kind of like asking if your left lung or right lung is your favorite, but I think it's still a fun question to pose. There are a lot of pros for both, which we will briefly look at below:
2009: This championship has a lot going for it in terms of history. It was Alabama's first national championship in 17 years, which needless to say went a long way in restoring dignity and stability to a program that had gone through two sex scandals, four losing seasons, general mediocrity and had seen a revolving door installed in the head coach's office since 1992. Another big plus to the 2009 championship is that we finally got a win against Texas. We're still a dismal 1-7-1 against them all-time, but we won it when it really mattered.
Another big plus for 2009? Mark Ingram winning the Heisman Trophy. We've all been guilty of saying "We don't care about the Heisman at Alabama, we care about national championships." While I've said that many times myself, and ultimately believe it to be true, we all cared A LOT about him winning that trophy. I know I did, as did the bar full of Alabama fans where I watched that erupted when Ingram's name was announced from the podium.
Last, and certainly not least, it's that we went undefeated. 14-0. SEC Championship. National Championship. We had dramatic wins over rivals Tennessee and Auburn that required blocked kicks and last second heroics. We finally defeated Tebow and did it in a thoroughly convincing fashion. It was also our first appearance in the Rose Bowl since the 1945 season. We were finally able to truly sing, "Remember the Rose Bowl we'll win..."
2011: It's funny what a difference a couple of years can make. By the start of the 2011, Nick Saban had the program firing on all cylinders. The team was 36-5 in the last three years and had a national championship, conference championship and two division titles under its belt. We'd gone from wandering in the desert under Shula, Franchione and DuBose to being led into the promised land by Nick Saban. At the 2009 championship celebration Saban famously uttered, "This is not the end. This is the beginning." It was a great thing to say at a victory celebration and while we all knew the potential was there for it to be true, we couldn't say for certain that it would ever prove to be true in terms of actually winning another championship.
Despite an early season QB controversy, things looked bright early on when sophomore QB AJ McCarron led the team to victory in a massive first road test as a starter against Penn State in Happy Valley. A really solid Arkansas was thoroughly dismantled in the SEC opener and the blowouts just kept on coming with a 28 point victory over Florida in The Swamp, a shutout of Vanderbilt (aided by some early season footAIDS) and an absolute humiliation of Ole Miss. Despite a sluggish first half against Tennessee, the 31 point margin of victory is what will be remembered when this season is looked back upon by future generations. And then came THAT game. A defensive grind in Tuscaloosa between the #1 and #2 teams in the country. It ended 6-6 in regulation. A disastrous overtime possession later and Alabama falls from #2 after losing 9-6 at home in overtime to now #1 LSU. The team that dismantled anyone and everyone was now on the outside looking in. "Damn. It's going to be the best one loss, no trophy winning team ever," a lot of people said.
And then the unthinkable happened: undefeated teams started dropping like flies: Oregon, Stanford, Boise State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. We were granted a new lease on life largely in part to disastrous place kicking. We became fans for a day of Texas Tech, Oregon, USC, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU and others. Alabama didn't sit idly by and mope after the loss. They kept churning out wins: a lackluster win on the road at Mississippi State avoided a hangover loss and a struggle with I-AA Georgia Southern and their triple option set things up for us to go into Auburn with one loss. Alabama absolutely dominated on The Plains, but Auburn hung around longer than they should have due to a kickoff returned for a TD and another easy TD off of an Alabama turnover deep in Crimson Tide territory. In the end though, Alabama blew them out of the water and retribution was theirs for the 2010 loss and the "NEVER AGAIN" motto rang true.
Through a dramatic string of losses and extremely nerve-wracking voting process regarding the various polls that factor into the BCS formula, Alabama was selected as the #2 team in the country and would face LSU for the BCS national championship in New Orleans. We had to endure all sorts of garbage from the media: "Does Alabama belong since they already played LSU?" Other fans cried foul and cursed the SEC. Mike Gundy acted like a spoiled child instead of with the dignity of a millionaire leading an emerging BCS power. The backlash against Alabama saw Trent Richardson's Heisman hopes dashed. He was leading in the polls and then he was a distant third after Alabama was chosen over Oklahoma State to play LSU.
So, while the 2011 season wasn't as perfect and storybook as 2009, it had way more drama about whether we would even be in the game or not...and when we were selected, we had to endure insult after insult about being selected. The team answered in the best fashion imaginable: a resounding 21-0 beatdown of the #1 and only undefeated team in the country. We had our redemption, we shushed the naysayers.
Lastly, and certainly not least, never has a football season held such importance for the state of Alabama given the events of April 27th. Hundreds of Alabamians (and 50+ from Tuscaloosa alone) lost their lives that day. The state was battered, bloodied and limping and it seemed as if things would never be normal again. Even taking the field on September 3rd against Kent State went a long way towards normalizing life in Alabama again. Football was back, things would get better.
2011 was all about redemption. Losing against LSU and never giving up. Clawing your way back into position to win. And of course, having a city and a state whose spirits were down lifted by a bunch of guys playing a game. Mother Nature may have won the battle that day in April, but our spirits as a people certainly won the war. January 9th was merely our victory party as a people, something the people of New Orleans sadly understand all too well themselves.
Two championships, two compelling stories. Which was more satisfying for you?
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Roll Tide Roll
I voted the last one and my next favorite is the next one. Sooner rather than later.
by FloraBama on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I had to go with 2009. It was the last chance before the turn of the decade to continue our every-decade dominance. It was more satisfying because it is the first most young Bama fans got to experience.
Books for Bama students: My E-Cubby - UA
by squinky86 on Jan 24, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
+1000 on your young ppl reference.
I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!
by ccislanders on Jan 24, 2012 12:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I voted 2011...
…but I’m not sure why. I was nervous at three points this whole season:
Before Penn State (because of the green QB).
Before our trip to the swamp.
And leading up to the title game(because of the hate we would receive if we lost).
But a quarter into each of those games I was fine, relaxed and making jokes.
But in ’09, there were many times I was more nervous than a cat covering poop. Heck, Rocky Block still gives me chills.
by Derk Mc on Jan 24, 2012 11:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I picked 2011 as more satisfying for me --
— because I was able to enjoy it a bit more, savor it a little more, all drama aside, than 2009.
2009 was a wild ride, but I felt the lingering doubts from the way 2008 ended. FL game was my biggest fear, and Bama delivered one of its best-ever performances. After that, TX game was a nail-biter, yet the “Well, McCoy got hurt…” ongoing chatter left a mildly annoying after-taste.
Then AU won it in 2010, and the Iron Bowl of Never Again happened.
Then came 2011. The difference between nearly being a great 1-loss team without a shot to win a title vs. actually winning the BCS title… unbelievable. Rather than an eternity of off-season doubts — "what now? are we in decline? will we ever reach the heights again, even with Saban…?’, we are in full celebration and reload-mode.
It’s the difference between the 1st single malt Scotch you ever have, and then having some really excellent 21+ year old Scotch later — NOW you know better how to savor it.
I took 2011 in the hardest poll choice I've ever made on RBR....
It literally took me 15 solid minutes of thinking about it to decide – and finally, it is the very thing you are referring to that tipped it for me….while ‘09 was incredible for so many reasons; Mark winning the Heisman, Rocky Block, Cody 5, Tebow tears – it was so intense every week that I really didn’t have time to reflect on it during the season…..this year, there was a calm that descended over me before every single game we played, so much that I wasn’t even worried about any of the games….even when we lost to LSU, it was almost surreal, like it didn’t happen – so sure I was that we were going to win – I wasn’t even nervous about the BCSNCG….In the end, ’11 is more satisfying for me because I enjoyed the ride more, because of the adversity that Ttown and the team overcame, and because the team took a lot of abuse in the media and I was taking a lot of abuse in New Orleans – and neither of us had to listen to anything but praise afterwards….
The day after the LSU game, I was ELATED when I saw we only dropped to #3 in the BCS.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:17 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but it still wasn't as simple as just having #2 lose.
Other teams still could’ve jumped us.
God bless our Dark Lord.
But I was extremely low after that loss.
I still have to go all the way back to the 2000 Orange Bowl for a loss that made me feel THAT low. Only dropping one spot after losing that late in the season was heaven sent for me.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah... There are losses I try to expunge from the memory banks...
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
The past decade few losses have made me that low.
2004 against UT was one (was that the multi-OT game, or was it 03?).
2010 IB.
2011 LSU.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what year that UT game was.....
I don’t think it happened…..at all…..the fact that I was in the stadium and saw Joe Kines call for a 22 yd deep zone on 4th and 19 may have something to do with why I can’t remember….
This was TOUGH
It kinda felt like choosing between Jack Daniel’s and Jack Daniel’s Black Label. I went 2009 though only because it felt like we restored order. Ingram winning the Heisman, Rocky Block, an the Iorn Bowl, some of the best memories of my adult life.
by TideinOklahoma on Jan 24, 2012 11:47 AM CST reply actions
The Media has Diminished My Fun
I hate that other fans and talking heads have the ability to diminish my fun, but they do. I would like to spend six months defending the choice of the BCS (not the system per say, but that the system got it right). Then I would like to spend the next six months explaining in mind-numbing detail why OKie St did not deserve a shot and how LSU or Bama would’ve dismantled them. Then I would like to spend a few more months just to help LSU fans understand that a 3 point victory in college OT is not the same as a definitive win in regulation.
I haven’t, but the fact that I have felt the need has left my celebration and delight of the championship at less than 100%. What will really be sweet is winning it next year, setting aside all doubt at the best team in the nation for the last two years is Bama. Roll Tide.
Word
By the time the game actually rolled around I was so sick of hearing about how we didn’t deserve a rematch and LSU should split the title that I was just ready for the whole thing to be over. Thankfully we won, but it was more relief than joy that I felt.
Come again?
There are plenty of _____________________ (insert expletives, I’m good for it) up here that wanted to piss and moan about Alabama getting a chance at redemption, but they all sort of admitted that truly, the two best teams in the nation played in the BCSNCG. But their opinions really don’t matter to me. Alabama has NO ONE to apologize/explain shit to. OK State on the other hand, probably should hold a town hall meeting explaining how/why Lord Gundy lost to an unranked team.
I have had so damn much fun celebrating, reliving the moments from A-Day through the NCG and I honestly couldn’t care less about the opinions of some unprofessional lame ass, non-dancing crybaby from Still Water.
ALABAMA: The 2011 National Champions.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:27 AM CST up reply actions
". . .non-dancing crybaby(ies) . . ." ????
Those son’s-o’-guns always get to me too! You just gotta be dancing, just ask Kevin Bacon (aka: Ren McCormack from Footloose). Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 25, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
2011 (at least for today)
I can’t put my finger on why, except to say this – I guess it’s just the absolutely dominating performance of that game, coupled with being a witness to one of the top 2 defenses in Alabama history (1961 is the only competition in my opinion). I certainly don’t buy into the whole “if Colt McCoy hadn’t gotten hurt” garbage, but at the same time knowing that we did not beat them at their best was always kind of a nagging feeling. So was watching our D go into a slight lull in the 3rd quarter and letting their freshman QB put points on the board. Don’t get me wrong – I was elated we won and it was HUGE toward getting Alabama back to the pinnacle of college football, but 2011 was a simply dominating performance where we took on our equal as a team and smothered them. It was the most perfect defensive performance I’ve ever seen in my life, and I just can’t help but love that game (and season) more.
As me again tomorrow, though, and I might have a different answer!
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jan 24, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions
*ask
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
A disastrous overtime possession later and Alabama falls from #1 after losing 9-6 at home in overtime to now #1 LSU.
Wasn’t LSU #1 going into that game?
As for the poll, I voted for 2011. That may change with some more time to step back and reflect, but having been at both games, I can tell you that I was even happier in N.O. than I was in Pasadena. After 2 months of being told that we didn’t belong and then 2 days of being taunted by LSU fans, and then thoroughly dominating them and leaving no doubt who was the better team, that was one of the sweetest wins I’ve ever seen.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Easy mistake to make
since we had the better team and all…
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
2009 was emotional for me haha
the Tennessee game, the Drive against the Barn, revenge against Tebow….
At that point I never expected we could actually pull it off since it had just been so long. In 2011 we finally got to be the Alabama fans that people always complained about. Entitled pricks that expect a championship haha.
But 2009 was the year we put it all together and everything since then has been gravy.
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
Stache pic upgraded to Championship mode
by Wallacewade04 on Jan 24, 2012 12:03 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Looked at your signature.
I had been wondering where the “angry” WW04 went.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
This season was a wreck for me, mentally and emotionally.
When you enter the season with as much talent as we had, with so much to prove from the prior season, off a great bowl game, and as the consensus 1 or 2 team, it’s stressful.
Every game is agonizing over the small details, diagnosing what will bite us in the ass to either keep us out of the MNC or make us lose said game or lose the SECCG.
Sure enough, it happened…Nov. 5, 2011. And there after chances were slim. That was about as low as I’ve ever felt into a 9-1 season in my life.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions
I voted for 2011...
But only because it is the more recent. It’s truly a tie for me.
2009 – My last year as a student at Alabama. Attended every home game, and also went to the Virginia Tech and National Championship games. The National Championship was special to me because it was in my home state, in a stadium where I’ve seen many USC victories, and I got show off my backyard (so to speak) to my friends and future wife. Plus, I was at the USC-Texas game and just absolutely hated Texas fans after that. Being able to be a student, witnessing a national championship as a student and being at the game made it extremely satisfying. I’m still satisfied to the point that while 2010 was frustrating at times, I knew that we were back for a long time.
2011 – This is just as satisfying because we got to beat LSU in their home state, and thoroughly destroyed them. We took all of their manhoods. Even if we lose to LSU next season, they could never top this. I also loved hearing all of the crow being consumed when the nation realized that we weren’t going to lose this game. I hated losing to LSU when we did, but we were given another opportunity, and we left no doubt who the best team in the country was in 2011.
Roll Tide Roll
Look at that dude going all Dareus on that colt.
by CaliforniaTide on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions
But to be honest, both seasons were pissed on by the at-large media.
2009 was “well, what about Colt McCoy”…
2011 was “well, what about INSERT OTHER 1 LOSS team”.
Why can’t we have nice things?!
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 12:09 PM CST reply actions
exactly.
Both were tainted unfairly by the media. It mediated my enjoment. Though I do admit, I would have much rather won in ’09 with McCoy still in the game.
Let’s hope a third BCS title in the next few years will set it straight.
Sports are a culture's way of getting at 5 or 6 great men... and then assuring that their greatness remains petty.
by zarahoopstra on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
You really should study under the JTad "F*** 'em" school of zen philosophy.
As I said above, if anything the pre-game media circus about the rematch only enhanced my joy of our win this year.
God bless our Dark Lord.
by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Whenever it bothered me before the game
I thought about how much daily pain our epic win was going to cause Tim Brando…..and now, everyday, I think about how so very wrong and pathetic Brando and Gary Danielson were – and though I doubt it bothers Danielson much that we won, I know for sure that it eats at Brando every single day…..
Yes it does...
and I hope his daughter and he have butthurt buffets on Sunday dinner.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
What did you call Warren Buffet?
"Let's go be champions, boys!" - Greg McElroy
(Formerly SugarBowl93)
by RememberTheRoseBowl on Jan 24, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Good point.
Can you work for a network and be more of homer than Brando?
And, I hate it when he says Alabama…it sounds very much like he is making fun.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
He. despises. Alabama.
If people can’t hear that in his voice, then they aren’t paying attention….Danielson and Verne do too, but they are a little more professional about it – Brando does everything but openly cheer against us…..fuck him – he’s gotta live with it til next fall – and hopefully for a long time to come…..
Yep.
F*ck ’em.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
all day
every day and twice on mother F’ing Sunday’s..
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
How does all day twice work?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
you'd have to ask my wife..
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by bammer on Jan 25, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, son!
It ain’t braggin’ if it’s true. Rec’d.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
seriously
how do you think i lost 100 lbs? #RimShot
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Divorce court like most people?
Of course, that’s usually losing 150 or so…
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I didn't know you could lose 100 lbs
rimming?
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
that's alotta calorie-burnin'
hellmuthaf_ckingyeah I sweat at that too! especially in the wintertime, with the comforter all weighing down on me. get’s slippery!
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
More information? What?
I live in a spacious-community-like set up. Read: my property “butts” up against (yeah, i used that) my neighbor’s home. Although we don’t “share” a common wall, lotsa stuff can be heard, so to speak.
This past weekend, my next-door neighbor asks me if my dishwasher or washing machine needs fixing and why I run either of them at night, because (she said) “they seem to make a lot of noise for a very long time”. I ask her, “What kind of noise”. She says, “Like the spin cycle has gone awry. Sometimes it stops making noise, but only for about a minute to a half a minute though. And then it starts up again. You guys can’t hear that your appliances need fixing?”
OMIGOD, I was almost mortified. But I wasn’t. I told her I’d get back to her, or that my wife would. My wife and her had a nice quick chat and now. . . .this neighbor is all smiles at me whenever I see her. It’s creepy, though.
“Errrr-errrrrrr-errrrrr-errr-errrrrr-errrr”, man- THAT WOULD be aggravating if I wasn’t having such a freaking supremely wonderful time being busy NOT worrying about night noises! This has been going on lots and lots for the past year AND SHE JUST NOW brings this stuff up. ???? Life is funny, yeah?
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 25, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
again Bix...you win at the
oddly hilarious comments. Never change my man.
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I ain't got no change to spare, so it's all good CT4!
Or, . . . . as my homepiece says to some folks, “Change comes from within, now go and ask someone else”. ( i got some cold-blooded friends, i hope they never fall on hard times)
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 25, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, winter...comforters...
bad times. Unless you want some cardio.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
TWSS
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I've always read your signature to refer to Nietsche...
rather than the actual Zoroaster. If you are a fan, you of all people should understand his theory of the slave morality:
value emerges from the contrast between good and evil: good being associated with other-worldliness, charity, piety, restraint, meekness, and submission; evil seen as worldly, cruel, selfish, wealthy, and aggressive. Nietzsche sees slave-morality born out of the ressentiment of slaves. It works to overcome the slave’s own sense of inferiority before the (better-off) masters. It does so by making out slave weakness to be a matter of choice, by, e.g., relabeling it as “meekness.”
I’m not saying he was right, and I’m not saying he was wrong, but I am very surprised that you of all people feel this way.
Fourteen.
I had to take 2009
Partially due to personal circumstances – Nov. 2009 might have been the worst month of my life – and partially due to the season itself. I loved going undefeated. I loved getting Alabama the first Heisman, and loved that it was Mark Ingram who won it and how he represented himself and the University in winning it. Most of all, though, I loved how that 2009 season put a stamp on it – Bama is back.
2011’s team was probably better, especially on defense, and that’s delicious – but I do get tired of hearing about not deserving the spot, even though that clearly wasn’t the case, and I hate that Trent didn’t win the Heisman. I don’t mind RGIII winning it if it’s not TR, but that three-spot drop after the BCNC selection sticks in my craw.
After the 2011 game, I was just bouncing off the walls. I’ve watched it a dozen times since, and it gets more impressive on both sides of the ball each time. This is a program in its heyday, the glory years, telling LSU and every other team in the land that, “you’d better get used to seeing this.” Tightening our grip on the top spot, as it were. But the 2009 game said, “Yes, that’s right, we’re back. Believe it.” The timing of that monumental victory for the program, for MI, and for Nick Saban combined to lift my spirits when I needed it most, and so that’s my favorite championship ever.
Besides, if you compare the meltdowns, it’s 2009 by a landslide. 2009’s “If only Colt hadn’t gotten hurt…” was replaced with “if only Jordan Jefferson had gotten hurt…” and that’s just weak sauce. And it’s not like we hadn’t owned LSU before…
by loxodonta tuscaloosa on Jan 24, 2012 12:21 PM CST reply actions
It's kind of a toss-up
As far as a complete season, and accolades, 2009 probably wins.
As far redemptive qualities, both in quieting the media/naysayers and helping the city of Tuscaloosa’s morale, 2011 probably tastes sweeter.
I voted for 2011 because…I LIVE AMONGST THESE TIGERS.
"If wanting to win is a fault, as some of my critics seem to insist, then I plead guilty. I like to win. I know no other way. It's in my blood." -- Paul "Bear" Bryant
2009 by far.
Championships usually require external assistance like fg-derp this year and heaps of luck. 2009 season everything was perfectly set up for a title run, but I was deathly afraid we’d somehow blow it. I looked at every dominating win as 2005 fla and hoped we could keep it together and not devolve to DuBose’s squad.
by sho' I stole on Jan 24, 2012 12:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
not gonna lie
i wish i had been in new orleans for the title game but being in tuscaloosa the night of Nov. 18 and all of Nov. 19 was frickin awesome.
SB Nation's The Historical: Because all those games way back when matter.
I cried REAL FREAKING SALTY-ASS TEARS when we beat Florida in the SECCG. . .
. . . .and felt the ground shake while I did jumping-jacks, somersaults, and backflips (mix in a few moonwalks here and there, while you’re at it) all the way from Pasadena to downtown LA in our Rose Bowl BCS CHAMPIONSHIP GAME VICTORY over the Longhorns but, . . . .
. . . .I chose this year.
Why? In a roundabout way, this year was “personal”. In 2009, that year was for my family and, for all intents and purposes, Crimson Tide history. Straight-up DOMINATION was the way it played out, as far as the season went in 2009. It was almost surreal- like it actually WASN’T happening in front of us. Disbelief, more like it. I have always been a Tide fan, but because I’ve been so far removed from my mother’s family in the South- I had been content with just having a Bear Bryant shrine in my childhood home and current residence. In 2009, I FINALLY HAD VICTORIES I COULD TASTE! Order was restored and in a way, I felt whole.
This year, although I was in Europe (Italy, to be exact) on April 27th- the devastation in Tuscaloosa was still felt. It was not the best way to spend a honeymoon, and although my new wife couldn’t quite fully understand, I became severely depressed. Things actually got better when I was given word that my family and friends were safe and out of harm’s way- but still. . . . . . . .
I was talking shit after this year’s win. I was shaking my money-maker like high priced hooker! Like I was angry at the world ‘cause the world just couldn’t match my happiness. In a way, LSA fans made this 2011 win super-way-f_cking-sweet for me so, . . . . . .thanks Tigah’s! Y’all be cool now, hear?
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 24, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions
As far as BCS title games are concerned...
I preferred 2011. But, taking into account the respective seasons I went with 2009.
Besides, 2009 was a season with 2 championship game wins.
2009 had more Bama significance; 2011 had more nat'l significance
2009 saw so many advances to the Bama legacy that I believe it had was the most important. I am a Bama fan and I did not want to see a decade go by w/o a SEC championship. I did not want to see another loss to Texas or Florida (or any other team for that matter). I wanted to see Mark Ingram, Javier Arenas and Eryk Anders overcome their status as underdogs to excel on the largest stages. Cody, Rolando and Julio were supposed to be superstars and they didn’t disappoint. 2009 meant a lot more in terms of breaking out of the malaise that the program had fallen into.
2011 means more to the rest of college football. The thought that one conference has demonstrable dominance over the rest has become indisputably proven. The cause for a playoff system has been advanced. The “rematch” was anti-climatic for most people outside of Bama nation. The debate between two philosophies of football (importance of offense vs, defense) in their eyes is unsettled. While I am happy for the accomplishments of this team, their ability to overcome adversity, their dominance on defense, their stable production on offense, their mental victory over personal and statewide tragedy…and their are many players whom I have enjoyed watching develop…their championship was not as groundbreaking as 2009.
The 2011 team may go down in my heart as the better team, but we (as a community) would have lost more with a loss in 2009 than in 2011. Boy, I hate thinking about things like this.
by crimson37 on Jan 24, 2012 12:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Whoah whoah whoah
The 2011 team may go down in my heart as the better team, but we (as a community) would have lost more with a loss in 2009 than in 2011. Boy, I hate thinking about things like this.
Thanks for dragging a bunch of downer shit into this. Haha!
Roll Tide
I kinda wish...
…I hadn’t voted, ’cause both of these seasons have been sooooo satisfying.
The 2011 team had the best RB in Alabama history (possibly SEC football) and the best defense in CFB history. We had an offense that clicked almost every single week. We had several players who won awards for their play. Most importantly, we got revenge against the only team who was able to squeak out a win against us by absolutely crushing them in their home state.
The 2009 team had the best WR in Alabama history (although I won’t argue against Don Hutson or Ozzie Newsome in their own eras) and the first Heisman winner we’ve ever had. We had some of the best players we’ve ever had at several positions (Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Greg McElroy, Julio Jones, Colin Peek, Barrett Jones, Mike Johnson, Terrence Cody, Rolando McClain, Javier Arenas, Mark Barron, Leigh Tiffin), and we had some of the most memorable moments and/or games in our history: Blocky Stop, Cody 5, first ever BCSNCG win against Texas for the first time…at the Rose Bowl, no less. Most importantly, we dominated the de facto national championship game against the then-most decorated class in SEC history when we destroyed the Gators in Atlanta.
I love these can’t-lose contests….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 24, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions
2009 Florida game
Still fells like the biggest game out of it, 2009 Texas, and 2011 LSU.
That may be true...
…but think about how big this last game would have been had we lost….
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 24, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
2009 Florida game was epic
I own the DVD of that and not the BCSCG. Florida game was infinitely more satisfying.
Just something about making Tebow cry was more satisfying than crushing (literally) Colt or stymieing JJ.
Actually, pushing JJ's shit in
and obliterating all 22 of the LSU starters was only slightly less rewarding than beating Tebow (and UF’s only undefeated team, ever). Seeing him cry was not something I got off on…I don’t enjoy watching kids in pain (and, yes, these are kids).
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
(and, yes, these are kids)
Heck, Tim Tebow was 22 years old when that game happened. What age do you figure someone becomes a grown-a** man?
God bless our Dark Lord.
Because I don't have as much malice in my heart?
But, seeing as your a ginger, the word “heart” and “mailce” don’t compute.
IT HAS NO SOUL!!!
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
I've heard of these things,
but I have no personal experience to draw from.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Kids?
Have you seen some of those bastards?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I'd also like to point out....
…that I love the fact that we can even HAVE this discussion.
by Nico2.0 on Jan 24, 2012 12:46 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
And I'd like to point out
enjoy it.
Because it’s going to be another 2-3 years before we’re even in the discussion again. Next year, particularly, will be brutal. 9 wins will be a miracle.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. Now, we can be all creepy about Debbie Cakes, processed etc...
and our kids and grandkids will tell us to STFU, Saban is ancient history.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree. We are looking good. Not over confident. Just a fact.
Proud mini-Saban.
by Tidee Whitee on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
FACT:
alabama is the only team to win a football national championship in every decade of the 21st century.
SB Nation's The Historical: Because all those games way back when matter.
by kleph on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Hope to keep it that way
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Ima' rec this.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Ima' hang up and lissen.
RBR resident Dogcaller.
by Crimsoncaller on Jan 24, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions
See below
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, thanks OTS.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 AM CST up reply actions
That's crazy talk, Stuck....
"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban
by NiceLittleSaturday on Jan 24, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Crazy talk it may be, but it is true.
1. Home and Neutral Skeddie: Michigan in Jerry World; at TAMU, Mizzou, Arkie, Tennessee, LSU.
2. Losses on offense: Hanks, Maze, Smelley, Vlachos and a guy named Richardson.
3. Losses on defense: 3 corners, 2 starting safeties, 3 starting LBs, 2 starting DL (and a few depth guys at both LB and DL).
That, people, is not an easy row to hoe, I don’t care who you are. That’s why I was a wreck this season (and anyone with a little dash of realism). 2011 was literally our best chance to be back in the picture for at least one, and more probably 2-3 years.
If Saban pulls off double digit wins, and goes 10-2 or 10-3, with a top 2 finish in the West? That would be his best coaching job ever.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
My opinon turned mightly about 2012
when AJ threw it to Norwood over the Honey Badger.
By the way…we have never…never returned as much on the offensive line. I for one think it is the most important part of a football team and we will start 5- that is 5 future NFL guys on the line (Jones, Warmack, Fluker, Kouandjio, and Williams) and Steen is very good as well (although don’t see him as an NFL pick.)
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
A couple things
We play A&M at home, we are only losing one starting safety, we have Dee Milliner coming back at CB, and we are only losing one starting DL. I’m not saying we are gonna repeat or something but I expect us to win about ten games. We have a lot more experience coming back then we did in 2010.
Lowery/Barron
Because of the base formation 80% of the time (e.g., extra backs), Lowery and Lester split time…And, arguably, Lester was around the ball less this year than Lowery.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
as much as i hate to say this cause the kid had heart but
losing Lowery isn’t going to hurt us. We are deep at Safety and have more than enough guys to fill his shows. I see Lester/Ha Ha as starters and Vinnie coming in nickle/Dime packages.
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
That combined with his injury is also probably why he won't be back.
We could use him and he would get playing time, but we’ll also be alright without him.
God bless our Dark Lord.
he's a senior so I think he's done regardless
unless he has some years remaining due to being a walk on. Either way, experience can outweigh talent in Saban’s D but I think we’ll have a little of both next year.
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
He would be a senior next year.
Not sure if that’s what you meant or not, but I was already corrected on that yesterday.
But he’s also already graduated. Another reason for him to not want to stick around (especially as a walk-on).
God bless our Dark Lord.
Yeah, grad school tuition is steep.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Losing a senior with that many snaps ALWAYS hurts in this defense.
Doesn’t matter how great the kid behind him is.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Why i tend to agree but Corner is where
things get really complicated in this defense. Vinnie stepped in and played in Lowery’s and Barrons spot nicely at the end of the season. He could take Barron’s spot and Ha Ha as the nickle. Either way having Lester out there getting them lined up is huge.
When it comes to next years D im most worried about Jack LB and CB. I think Depriest steps into Hightowers role with Lester/Johnson making the calls. Replacing Harris will be tough as well. Just like 2009 we only have one experienced CB returning in Milliner…That worries me.
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
It matters less who you lose
than who returns. If CK is healthy it’s not unreasonable to think the OL might be better than this year. We will supposedly have Duron Carter at WR to go with White/Norwood/Bell et al. No way to replace a transcendent talent like Trent, but Lacy/Fowler/Hart/Yeldon present a pretty damn nice group of RBs. The secondary is still going to be filled with upperclassmen with the exception of one safety spot, which will likely be a sophomore in HaHa who was the consensus #1 at his position. Both Mosely and Nico got “starter” type minutes this year at LB, and Williams/Square have both played “starter” minutes either this year or last.
Oh, and we’re gonna kick the shit out of Michigan. Mark it down- that one will look just like Clemson 2008.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
by J Tadpole on Jan 25, 2012 5:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LSU and Arkie are the only two of those that I see being a problem.
Win those two and we’re most likely headed back to the BCS CG, even if we somehow drop one somewhere else.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Dude you are on the rock.
Next year’s team will lose no more than twice.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I almost went with 2009 for some of the reasons mentioned above...
but i had to go with 2011 since i live here in baton rouge…rubbing it in to corndogs…Priceless!
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!
14 and counting...
by alanbama14 on Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
2009 for me.
Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed this past year tremendously.
But to be honest it was expected to some degree. Entering 2008 I wondered if we would ever again be “the team” everybody wanted to beat. And, although 2008 had it’s own magic, including 36-0, when we went to ATL that year I figured we would lose to Tebow. After that loss and the Utah debacle I felt in 2009 we would be good but still not #1. I secretly wondered if Bama could ever even make the BCSCG much less win it due to the kind of game we were playing…low scoring, defense, run first, conservative etc.
And then magic broke loose. After 2009 I started to think it was now possible for us to win it all any year. That was the way I felt in the 60’s and 70’s. (But not the way I felt in 92 because I felt we were not focused after the championship.)
Truth is we really could have won it in 2010 had we not lost our focus. But 2011 was not a surprise to me. I bought Team Ticket Reservations in Jan 2011 and never wavered.
I now feel we have a real good chance of winning it all in 2012 in spite of schedule and would bet a whole lot we will win at least one more real soon if not 2012 then sometime in the next 3 or 4 years.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
So are you buying Team Ticket Reservations for 2012?
I’m not, partly because I heard the minimum price went up to something like $150. That bet’s too rich for my blood.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Actually I did not
because I have to throw a big wedding this year and to be honest it is going to cut down on some of my football. I’m not even going to Dallas for the Michigan game and I was really looking forward to that. I loved raising girls but that parting gift is a whopper.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
I've got 2 girls under the age of 4
Mental note: go to games while I still can….
"Everyone's got a plan 'till you punch them in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
by twominutedrill on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
2009 was a more satisfying year. Even in light of the astounding accomplshments
of the 2011 team. Its just for me, the long drought and the dismantling of St Timmy, was for me, overwhelming.
In 2011, I was fortunate enough to visit NO for a week, but did not attend the game. My son and I had the best time weve ever had together.
He isnt much of a sports fan, but when I told him that we would go to NO for game week, he became an immediate uber-Tide fan. And on Bourbon Street, he yelled Roll Tide more than I.
But I was always oddly relaxed about the 2011 NC game. It seemed to me the Bama squad had done enough just getting to the game. And while winning the game in dominate fashion and to silence the critics was so sweet, I will never, ever forget at the end of the game my son and I hugged and he said “WE just won the National Championship!” Get that, “we”. I think we can count him as one of the flock now.
Proud mini-Saban.
Considering our record against Texas, my vote goes to 2009.
Plus we received our first Heisman that year.
by burmbuster on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
2012
will be the most satisfying one of all!
"Difficulties strengthen the mind, as labor does the body."
― Seneca
Sure hope we get to play Oklahoma State.
by thronedoggie on Jan 24, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to play USC.
Love playing USC and Kiffin would be fun.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Oklahoma State will not be getting to the BCSNC or the Cotton Bowl
So that won’t happen, although I’d love to destroy them
Please redefine "all".
I was glad for Mark himself in winning the trophy, but I was sad that we had a Heisman.
When I was little, Dad (who was an AUBURN fan – yes, I come from a mixed marriage) told me that Alabama had more national championships than anybody else BECAUSE they hadn’t won a Heisman – that the Crimson Tide was about the team, at all costs.
And I voted for 2011; the question was “more satisfying”. That word, to me, implies a fulfilling of a requirement, a vacancy. 2009 was a complete surprise, even (or especially?) coming on the heels of 2008’s regular season; it was unexpected, and therefore a freely-found joy.
The 2011 season, however, set up a definite warp in the universe…we lose to the undisputed #1 team in the country by three points in overtime, and OSU loses by three points in overtime to a team that hasn’t been ranked since the Eisenhower administration, and THEY are yelling that they should be number two? That stuck in my craw – so watching us strangle LSU in proper Saban-constrictor fashion was trying satisfying a need in me.
Obviously entitled to your opinion...
…but I’m guessing this line of thought is an outlier (emphasis mine):
I was glad for Mark himself in winning the trophy, but I was sad that we had a Heisman.
I get what you’re saying, but neither Mark Ingram nor Trent Richardson (who should’ve won) showed any of the arrogant attitude of a lot of Heisman winners. If they can win with dignity, which Ingram did, I’m fine with it. Do you have similar feelings about the Outland, Lombardi, Doak Walker, etc. or is it just the Heisman because of the hype it brings?
No offense to your dad
but
Alabama had more national championships than anybody else BECAUSE they hadn’t won a Heismandoesn’t make any sense to me. And how could you not be happy for Mark when he won?
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
The reason we never had
a Heistman winner was because in the old days it was all about stats since all most folks had was a newspaper account and Coach Bryant would play too many players for one guy to get the stats.
By the way, the Heistman was not near as big a deal in the 50’s and 60’s as it is now. The only guy I even remember winning it in the 60’s was OJ. They never had a show on tv. You read about it in the paper.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
wait, it's not all about stats now?
Bullshit. Otherwise, people like Kellen Moore wouldn’t be in the discussion, and folks like Montee Ball damn sure wouldn’t have been in New York.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 24, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Oh it is to a degree
but now someone can win it with a big showing on a big stage…example Ingram in the SECCG and RG3s last weekend when TR was sitting.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
That's what I was thinking. The "Heisman moment" has become a big part of the debate.
Ingram running Wildcat 7 plays in a row to put away SC. SCam running wild on LSU. RG3 throwing the bomb to end the game against Oklahoma.
God bless our Dark Lord.
Agreed
Ingram needed two things. An improbable defining heisman moment (which was absolutely taking control of the USC game) and a decent game (in most likely a winning effort) against UF.
Call it B.S., but you gotta’ have a huge moment in a huge game, and get it done when it counts. Hence, Manning did not win, while Supersize Woodson had huge moments against teams that mattered (e.g., OSU).
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
I went with 2011
Just because they overcame adversity when a lot of teams would have quit after Nov. 5th. They knew they were the best, and just waited for the other teams to falter. When they got their chance, they showed everyone they were the best.
On an unrelated topic, it’s good to see all the new members of RBR. Welcome and enjoy the snark! You have discovered Bama Nirvana!
"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant
Here we are now, entertain us!
God bless our Dark Lord.
by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I'm sayin'!
On Nov. 5th, when the game was over. . . . .[raises hand] “Over Here!” Yep, that’s me- I was in denial. It was as if, the CFB-football-god somehow gave the world an outcome in total error.
I had the utmost confidence in Coach Saban’s preparation for LSU in the BCSNCG. I wasn’t so much as scared or unsure about the game, it was more like, “Who’s going to step up?” 2 things: JJ’s abysmal play, and AJ’s peerless decision-making/game-management.
For some reason, I wasn’t too concerned with the Honey Badger as much as I was concerned about LSU’s front defensive 4 and LB’s. “Are they going to chew up our backfield?”
I felt we had the superior D and O- just was unsure as to how and when it would play out for us. But confidence in Alabama football, I had too much of it believe it or not?
by BixBeiderbecke on Jan 24, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I went with 2009
Partly because of the unexpected success and ultimate disappointment of 2008. At the time I viewed a NC as something that didn’t happen all that often and I felt like 2008 was our best chance in the then foreseeable future. 2009 came along and I was on edge all season. I can’t help it but I am never overly confident going into any game. The VT game was awesome, there were some nail-biters against Ole Miss, UT, LSU, AU. Going in to the SECCG I was my pessimistic self and was surprisingly ecstatic at the outcome. I went to Pasadena and didn’t eat a morsel of food all day due to my nerves being shot. Again, all of this stemmed from my inner fan saying that by having come so close in 2008 (1 quarter away from being favored in the NCG against OU), we surely wouldn’t improve on that success in 2009. Boy was I wrong and ultimately I learned that Bama’s success didn’t have to happen 17 years apart anymore.
2011 was super sweet but it didn’t have the power to teach me to love myself as a fan like 2009 did.
/probably needed psychiatric help before 2009 anyways
"Everyone's got a plan 'till you punch them in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
I didn't eat in Pasadena on game day until halftime at the game.
I finally had some confidence it was really going to happen.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
I never left my seat at the stadium the entire game.
Fortunately a guy in the row in front of me gave me a beer in the 3rd quarter. That was the only nourishment I got all game. One beer. And it was glorious.
"Everyone's got a plan 'till you punch them in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
by twominutedrill on Jan 24, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, we got to our seats an hour before kickoff and did not move until an hour after the game was over.
Eating can be done anytime. You only win national championships every couple of years or so!
God bless our Dark Lord.
.
there were some nail-biters against Ole Miss, UT, LSU, AU.
While there were certainly several drives that stalled in the red zone against Ole Miss, and 5 field goals (sound familiar?), we led that game 16-0 at half time and ended up winning 22-3.
Fourteen.
2011.
2009 was more fun, in part because it was against my alma mater also I got to listen to it on ESPN radio. 2011 was more satisfying.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 24, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Truth is
I loved the 2009 regular season and quite literally squeezed out some tears during the Ingram Heisman speech, loved the title game even though the “McCoy was our lifeblood” crying was stupid. However I actually was able to make the trip to New Orleans this year, see the pure dispicable nature of corndog fans (wife was intentionally beamed in the face with beads from a balcony), had idiots scream “tiger bait” in my face all weekend and act classless in general. To be inside the Superdome when those same “fans” started to leave BEFORE the end of the third quarter was about as satisfying as it could have possibly been. It felt like the fans got all they deserved as the scoreboard so beautifully read 21 next to BAMA zero next to LSU. 2011 has a special place in my heart for sure!!
by CrimsonClint on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LSU fans were more annoying than Texas fans
and I have no love for Texas. The “Tiger Bait” thing got old about the 100th time. As I was walking away from the dome real late after the game a Bama fan came up to me and just smiled and said real softly almost a whisper “Tiger Bait.” Yeah", i replied, “Tiger Bait.”
One other funny thing. When Trent scored a Bama fan a row in front of me stood and shouted so loud everyone in the section including several LSU fans could hear “Thank you for coming. LSU fans can now leave the party.” They did.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Agreed....
we got there on Saturday – and the abuse just was constant from LSU fans….it wasn’t so bad before the Saints game, but after the Saints won, everybody was wasted and switched right from Saints celebration mode to full on drunken LSU asshole mode…..Tiger Bait for breakfast, Tiger bait for lunch…..then on Monday night…..Tiger Meat for dinner…..and the silence in the French Quarter except for cheering Alabama fans was the most satisfying thing I have experienced related to football in a long, long time…..
by p3bhambama on Jan 24, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not Even Close
Beating LSU in New Orleans after all the " Best Team Ever Talk" in their backyard and the Honey Badger Angle.
I am a member of the Sabanation Roll!!Tide!!
by lawbama1 on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
this...
2009 was great and all but 2011 was just special. The Tornado, destroying EVERYONE except on Nov. 5th, redemption, the Okie St butthurt, touch that thang fo, the Defense, Trent, AJ proving EVERYONE wrong, CNS jumping up and down after getting the Gatorade Bath, CNS actually smiling, him saying that the 2011 team was just special, 21-0…I will never forget the 2011 season and this team.
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
Yeah. I had to vote 2011.
Because I live 2 blocks off of 15th street.
Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!
by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Damn, tough call Nico.
I gotta go with 09.Rocky Block had me on the edge of my seat,with our destiny on the line.And the SEC beat down on Tebow was epic.But the 2011 defense will more than likely go down in Bama lore as the best.Yes I know I could be stretching it,with all the other great teams of the past.But to shut out a team averaging 38 points a game,speaks volumes.Today’s game is so much more advanced,as far as training goes.
RBR resident Dogcaller.
I voted for 2009
I felt 2009 was a more enjoyable season. The games were just more exciting, but that’s a lot to do with the games being closer and including several “classics”. The opener against Virginia Tech was a great game. Rocky Block… amazing. The comeback against the boogs. Then of course the Saban/Meyer showdown part 2. It was like this year’s Bama/LSU but it built up all season, and that was such an unbelievable experience… almost better than either BCS game. Ingram winning the Heisman. Beating Texas for the first time. 2009 was just a dream season.
2011 was great, but we lost to LSU. The other games all non-competitive blowouts.
"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted
For me, it's 2011 for a few reasons.
In 2009 I was only a freshman at UA and was fairly new to football, so I don’t think I appreciated the accomplishment of going undefeated and winning it all as much as I would have now. Don’t get me wrong, I still get goosebumps when I think about Rocky Block, but still…
Without getting too personal, 2011 was easily the worst year of my life, the tornado obviously being a major part of that. Alabama football was my escape. Even despite the loss, this season was an incredible ride. It helps that I got to witness the redemption in Auburn and be in NOLA (although not at the game) for the championship.
I was openly weeping in public as the clock hit 0:00 on January 9th. The win, the way the season played out… It made me feel like there was some justice in the world after everything our city has been through. It was more than just a championship to me; it was a symbol of overcoming incredible adversity, and that’s why I have to say it was more satisfying.
by AccioAlabama on Jan 24, 2012 6:27 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
But what about Auburn...
they lost the trees…why was there no justice for them?…well unless you call a victory over a bad VA team justice.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Dang, AA, you're gonna make me all misty-eyed!
But then I remembered what a punk you are for having won 2 NCs in your time as a student while we didn’t even win the SEC in my 5 years there! :P
God bless our Dark Lord.
by CarrotTop4 on Jan 24, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just embrace me as the good luck charm I am.
And fund my indefinite stay at UA to ensure that we keep winning.
by AccioAlabama on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
So... Plannin' on grad school at Bammer, right?
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
and then taking a job as a Professor until she dies at some insane age of like 300...
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A Hundred Pounds Lost
Top it off with be ing interred on campus. God, are we greedy.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
by TiderUpNorth on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
This.
We’re the same age, and I could apply a lot of what you said to me. 09 was fun, getting to go to Pasadena was excellent, but this one just meant more for me.
Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!
by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
2009
Only because it had been so long. That said this years team was better.
Roll Tide!
Undefeated in 2009, SEC champs in 2009
Seems like an easy call.
I voted for 2011...
The more NCs we win, the more satisfying it gets.
And I’ll always cherish this comment posted by an LSU fan after the BCS bowl win: “This was all about restoring order. We are now Bama’s bitch again.”
“Touchatthangfo!”
RTR!!!!!!!
"No, man, journalism. It was easier." - Joe Namath, after a reporter asked if he majored in basket weaving at Alabama.
by Rogue Elephant on Jan 24, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Restoring order?
When was LSU the top dog in the SEC?
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
Can I vote twice?
Want to show my respect to both satisfying seasons.
"I'd settle for a one point victory any day" Paul W. Bryant
by PharmacyBob on Jan 24, 2012 9:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I went with 09
because…i had to pick one, but it’s like asking which Vermeer you own is your favorite (all have a great value) ‘11 is one of the most dominating seasons I can recall. Think about it….other than 11/5, there wasn’t a game that was in doubt 5 min into the 5th quarter (if that) Offense put up 30+ and defense allowed 8. Not saying I want drama mind you, but I really think that ‘11 was a dominate receiver away from being quite possibly one of the best college teams ever – might not even need that. 09, I was sweating out some games. Rocky Block as has been mentioned, but Ingram v. SoCar – AWESOME. Julio v. Peterson same. The Drive. Just watching Javy alone was worth the price of admission, plus his pick in the endzone against Tebow. Then to beat TX in the RoseBowl it was just a magical 14-0. 09 gets might vote because it does have something that ’11 doesn’t have – SEC ring. I do like the fact that the voting is so very close.
Most games are not in doubt even 1 second into the 5th qt.
If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.
However, 11/5 was.
He’s only half wrong, but I think we should still mock him.
Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!
by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
2009 is kinda like 1961.
It ended years wandering in the wilderness, restored the Royal Family of college football to the throne, beginning a new dynasty.
2011 is like 1965. Everything fell into place at the right time to produce a miracle.
"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant
(12-4)+2=12 hoping for a +1
Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.
by the thin red line on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 AM CST reply actions
I voted 2011.
I went to my first A-Day game this year and left town a day before the tornadoes. I was really heartbroken for Tuscaloosa and I loved how the city, fans, team and coaching staff made it known that everyone would have their place in this year’s effort.
I also went to the 3rd (4th) Saturday in October game and saw some of the destruction and I felt there was no way this team would be denied… After that momentary dashing of my hopes on 11-5, I was a new man when I saw we were #3 in the BCS.
I was front & center for all but one of Alabama’s FGs in NOLA, wearing my 1960s #17 jersey. I just can’t describe the euphoric feeling I had as Alabama not only dismantled LSU, but sent their soul back to Baton Rouge in a pine box. I just kept thinking, “WE did it!” I literally damaged my throat for weeks with all my yelling. Yeah, 2011 in a tough vote.
9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.
"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean
I say 2009.
Seventeen years is a long time, and I remember all of them. It was the restoration of equilibrium, a return to the normal. It was also about control. 14-0. No need to be an Iowa State fan.
Fourteen.
BAMABABE
it plannd on voting, but i can’t….2009 was special bc it was our Welcome Back party…it was a special season bc like u said, we finally beat Tebow….but this year was special for other reasons…the Tornados did such devastation that the city truly NEEDED this win…this team seemed different for some reason..in 2009 i think it was pretty clear who the best team in the country was and even with 2 close games, we were on a roll thanks to Mark…this year seemed like more of a fight to the finish, our boys had to really stand up, take charge, and make ourselves the clear cut #2 choice after LSU…the feeling i got watching us dismantle and dominate in the NCG was unreal…i keep refering to it as a perfectly orchastrated mauling….the send off for Coach Mac and the Crystal back to T-Town…could it have gotten much better?? i hate that we will be defending our right to0 this title for years to come, but as a BAMA fan ive realized that ppl dont think rationally when it comes to us, bc we’re too successful for them to handle….so i’ll keep on defending my BAMA boys and i just hope that this year and 2009 were previews of whats to come…ROOOOOLLLL TIDE ROLL!!!

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