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Sugar Bowl Open Thread | Michigan vs. Virginia Tech


10-2 (6-2)
2nd Big Ten Legends

Sugar Bowl
The Superdome
New Orleans, LA
7:30 pm CST
TV: ESPN


11-2 (7-1)
1st ACC Coastal

Hectic day, real life, etc. Enjoy the open thread and chime in with comments about who you chose and why. Will get the RBR vote record up at some point.

Poll
Who will win the Sugar Bowl?
Michigan
53 votes
Virginia Tech
25 votes

78 votes | Poll has closed

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Michigan wins it

but I think Denard Robinson can be really undisciplined at times.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Jan 3, 2012 6:51 PM CST reply actions  

He can’t even tie his shoelaces.

I pick UM as well.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

UM

As much as I hate both teams, UM wins it.

by Fredonia on Jan 3, 2012 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

Settle a debate I had with myself: Is VaTech a top tier program?

I concluded they’re probably akin to Georgia. Decent team every year, which counts for something. In a shitty conference (ACC) or division (SEC East this year), both schools are competitive. But both schools wet the bed under real competition.

by PhiladelphiaBammer on Jan 3, 2012 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

8 conference championships

Since 1916? Ummmm no.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

10 Conference Championships since 1916.

I see what you’re saying, they’ve historically been dreadful, but so was Florida State and Miami, and Florida wasn’t anything to write home about, either.

A lot of this depends on your definition of “elite.” They certainly don’t have the same history as Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, or the like, but they’ve been pretty damn good over the past 20 years or so, as I indicate below. Some (a lot? most?) of this came from playing in a relatively weak conference, which is why we have beauty contest polls.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Saban would say

“pretty darn good” is not enough. The enemy of great is good.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Saban would also say...

that his goal every year is to win the conference, and not the national championship. He says that winning the conference is something that the team can control, whereas winning the beauty contest that gets one invited to the BCSNCG is NOT. By this standard, Virginia Tech would appear to be a top tier team.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions  

See my comment on 3 or so loss ACC Champions

Its hard to be taken serious as a contender for MNC if you win your conference with three losses.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

*top tier

Whoops, thought you used the word “elite.” You didn’t.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

For the past 20 years...

1. 2011: 11-2 (Will be either 12-2 or 11-3, Lost ACCCG)
2. 2010: 10-3 (ACC Champions)
3. 2009: 10-3
4. 2008: 10-4 (ACC Champions)
5. 2007: 11-3 (ACC Champions)
6. 2006: 10-3
7. 2005: 11-2 (Lost ACCCG)
8. 2004: 10-3 (ACC Champions)
9. 2003: 8-5
10. 2002: 10-4
11. 2001: 8-4
12. 2000: 11-1
13. 1999: 11-1 (Big East Champions, lost BCSNCG)
14. 1998: 9-3
15. 1997: 7-5
16. 1996: 10-2 (Big East Co-Champions)
17. 1995: 10-2 (Big East Co-Champions)
18. 1994: 8-4
19. 1993: 9-3
20. 1992: 2-8-1

186-65-1 (73.81% winning percentage)
0 National Championships, Lost 1 BCSNCG
7 Conference Championships, lost two Conference Championship Games

Alabama, on the other hand, has gone:
1. 2011: 11-1 (Will either be 12-1 or 11-2, will play in BCSNCG)
2. 2010: 10-3
3. 2009: 14-0 (SEC Champions, National Champions)
4. 2008: 12-2 (Lost SECCG)
5. 2007: 7-6
6. 2006: 6-7
7. 2005: 10-2
8. 2004: 6-6
9. 2003: 4-9
10. 2002: 10-3
11. 2001: 7-5
12. 2000: 3-8
13. 1999: 10-3 (SEC Champions)
14. 1998: 7-5
15. 1997: 4-7
16. 1996: 10-3 (Lost SECCG)
17. 1995: 8-3
18. 1994: 12-1 (Lost SECCG)
19. 1993: 9-3-1 (Lost SECCG)
20: 1992: 13-0 (SEC Champions, National Champions)

173-77-1 (68.92% winning percentage)
2/3 National Championships, Lost 0/1 BCSNCG
2 Conference Championships, lost 4 Conference Championship Games

DISCLAIMERS: I believe that Alabama played in a tougher conference in most, if not all of these years. Also, I understand that this is looking at some of the worst years in the history of Alabama football. Also, this ONLY looks at results on the field, not at vacated/forfeited wins.

I know, I know, tl;dr. Shove it.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand you like VT

but that 0 National Championships does not bother you? How many SEC championships would you give up for a NC? Would we keep Saban 25 years if we NEVER won a championship?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That last "championship"

was meant to be a National Championship, fyi

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Who said I like VT?

I was just posting facts there, and a little opinion under the disclaimer.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

An assumption on my part

did not mean to cast it upon you. My apologies.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and I lived up to your assumption in one of my responses above.

So yeah, I apologize, too.

I guess it all comes down to your definition of “top tier.” Like someone said above, they are pretty consistently very good, and win their conference a lot, but they’ve not yet been the best.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love to see VT get there

but the definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing yet expect a different outcome each time.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

If I may also point out

Look at how many of those “ACC Champions” titles are with 3 or so losses. That kills me. SEC champs rarely have that many, if I recall correctly. I think that is a hint in the difference between the conferences.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's check...

In the past 20 years, there have been 4 seasons in which the SEC Champion finished the season with 3 losses:

1999: Alabama 10-3
2000: Florida 10-3
2001: LSU 10-3
2005: Georgia 10-3

In addition, the 1994 SEC Champion Florida Gators failed to win 3 of their games, finishing the season 10-2-1.

During that same time, the ACC has had 11 Champions finish the season with 3 or more losses:

1995: Virginia (Co-Champions with Florida State) 9-4
2002: Florida State 9-5
2003: Florida State 10-3
2004: Virginia Tech 10-3
2005: Florida State 8-5
2006: Wake Forest 11-3
2007: Virginia Tech 11-3
2008: Virginia Tech 10-4
2009: Georgia Tech 11-3 (later vacated)
2010: Virginia Tech 11-3
2011: Clemson 10-3 (I think they play West Virginia tomorrow)

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's check.

In the past 20 years, there have been 4 seasons in which the SEC Champion finished the season with 3 losses:

1999: Alabama 10-3
2000: Florida 10-3
2001: LSU 10-3
2005: Georgia 10-3

In addition, the 1994 SEC Champion Florida Gators failed to win 3 of their games, finishing the season 10-2-1.

During that same time, the ACC has had 11 Champions finish the season with 3 or more losses:

1995: Virginia (Co-Champions with Florida State) 9-4
2002: Florida State 9-5
2003: Florida State 10-3
2004: Virginia Tech 10-3
2005: Florida State 8-5
2006: Wake Forest 11-3
2007: Virginia Tech 11-3
2008: Virginia Tech 10-4
2009: Georgia Tech 11-3 (later vacated)
2010: Virginia Tech 11-3
2011: Clemson 10-4 (didn’t they just lose to West Virginia?)

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow!

And yeah, we gave up 46 scholarships over 5 years and postseason play for 3.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Understood and agreed...

but the flip side of that argument is that I’m counting vacated and forfeited wins as wins, rather than as losses or nulls.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

tl;dr

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 3, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

What are they chanting?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:29 PM CST reply actions  

Is this thing on?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Echo?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Hold on,

How can 2 teams that didn’t win their conference, play in a BCS bowl?

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 7:33 PM CST reply actions  

I think Hoover Vacuums

are looking for something to sponsor.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

What a move.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

You just don't see good arm tackles

like that these days. Such technique! Stay fundamental Michigan!

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions  

Isn't this who we're playing in Jerry land?

Oh man, we’re gonna have a hell of a day rushing on them.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Have you forgotten the year

we opened with them?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind

I was thinking VT

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

What a moron.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Holy shit VT!!

Way to shoot yourself in the foot

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing like 3rd and goal, at the twenty yard line.

Haw haw

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Why not run right at Michigan?

They have a soft defense.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

The announcer said they had deep penetration ...

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Anyone else

think Lloyd Carr felt awkward?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

I've never had the opportunity.

To feel him that is.

Never truss a big butt and a smile.

by R-Train on Jan 3, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait...

Was he at Penn State too?

Too early?

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope. Your good

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I spit my drink out.....for realz

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

What do you do for a living?

/flashback

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Man they throw the bands in some shitty places

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Better than the folding chairs they used to put the bands on.

Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!

by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 3, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Michigan looks like hammered shit.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

but but but

I didn’t say anything about band seats?!?!

;)

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Bama was only allotted 300 student tickets

and 100 were for the band.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That lineman was way down field.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

NICE INT!!

Awesome catch

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm a streaker...

Love the mayham commercials.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

300 lbs and all blue!

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh. So it's Michigan's fault!

Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!

by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 3, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

But he yells

“Go State”. Wondering if Happy Valley will ask them to stop saying that.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Lawsuit?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 7:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That number will dwindle quickly

I am sure.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm waiting on Bama hoops.

I’d rather watch that than the $ matchup created by the Sugar Bowl.

Dave Robertson is growing up to be the new Mariano Rivera. My two universes of fandom can finally unite!

by SoGladILeftTheACC on Jan 3, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it's because I live in the great unwashed North

But I cannot remember how many times I almost threw up today from people asking whether I saw those amazing games yesterday. Blegh!

by PhiladelphiaBammer on Jan 3, 2012 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

They were four quarters of overtime play

Throw throw throw

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions  

This is an embarrassment to Football.

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 8:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Averaging 8 yards running up the middle.

-37 yards on toss sweeps…..how about another toss sweep.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Broadcast team gave Michigan that last play

and they still couldn’t stop it! the word SPY was obvious as hell.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

OMG

I am asleep. disregard.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

VaTech shouldn't

even be in the game. And Michigan is still a work in progress.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

It is certainly a black eye

for the Sugar Bowl.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

OMG.... Defense

This game Sux, there hasn’t been 54 points scored yet?!!?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Virginia Tech

seems to be wear all the kickers go. They put two on the sideline and STILL get a field goal. I am jealous.

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Where*

damnit!

"Some people have a way with words....some people....not have way." - Steve Martin

"A sign of intelligence is an awareness of one's own ignorance." - Unknown

by 13thBama on Jan 3, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Beamer Ball is known for special teams.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

A QB keeps almost 2 yards out?

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

I swear that's how they score all their points,

jump balls.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:45 PM CST reply actions  

VT playing like they are from the ACC.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

Just throw it up Mich

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 8:49 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

That is their only pass play.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

....this isn't a football game anymore.

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

How was there no illegal men downfield?

"There are 40 rules all Schrute boys must learn by age 5. Rule #17- There are 3 things you never turn your back on--- Bears, men you have wronged, and a dominant male turkey during mating season."

by Aaron.50cal on Jan 3, 2012 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

How much of this sloppiness

is from the long layoff.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, well, *&^% Michigan and *&^% crucial missed FGs.

Razzah frazzah 2000 Orange Bowl. TOM BRADY CAN EAT A GREASY LUKEWARM BAG OF DEATH AND DAMMIT PFLUGNER YOU PFUC…

…sorry. Flashbacks. I was MDB on that trip; it hurt especially and much.

by woolf on Jan 3, 2012 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

well, for anyone that was concerned about the opener in Dallas next year

I would submit this as example number one as to why not to take Michigan seriously

by BamaThrasher on Jan 3, 2012 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

I will take note.

I’m mailing in the bank to go to that game, and I’m gonna enjoy every last second.

I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!

by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If 17 points, and some of them lucky

is all your “high powered” offense can must against a hapless bunch like Va Tech, color me unimpressed. We will be young on defense, but I think you can pretty much count on a curb stomp in Dallas to open the season

by BamaThrasher on Jan 3, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm feeling it.

If Michigan wins tonight, I’l be hearing about it all day from my best friend, he’s gonna be telling me about how I should be worried or something like that. I’m just gonna avoid saying anything to hurt his feeling, although you did tell me to be a prick about ’Bama.

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree.

Virginia Tech is currently the #12 total defense in football in terms of yards per game, and #18 in terms of TDs allowed.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Denard Robinsnon:

Mutant offspring of a lusty night betwixt Cam Newton and a badger? Or of the Honey Badger and a Fig Newton? Whichever case, I hope there was shame, and burning pee.

by woolf on Jan 3, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

Superdome looking perty for Monday.

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:20 PM CST reply actions  

Is Denard returning next year?

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

he won't be drafted as a qb

so I would think that he will without question

by BamaThrasher on Jan 3, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

If he's eligible.

/rememberitfolkstherumorsstartedrighthere

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

WOOOOW!!! What a terrible outcome for VTech.

Fuuuuuunnnnyyy

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:25 PM CST reply actions  

I always hated VT.

Haha. Go Blue!

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

My daughter's cousin is the first string punter for VT

so we were all excited that VT was going to punt, but did #30 come out??? Nooooo. Here comes # 17 with the lamest punt fake something ever.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sorry for y'all's experience.

That was a pretty lame attempt though….

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

They should have brought out the cousin

and at least got off a decent punt.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

20-17

Come on Michigan D!

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

But you have to note

that VT’s 3rd string FG kicker has a pretty good run going.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 3, 2012 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

Ya, that's some crazy stuff!

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

their

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

There ya go

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That's what I thought. I'm fixed.

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

They're right.

the thin red line and Tokeisch, that is.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Michigan has improved tremendously.

Their defense really improved—and they’re young. Can’t wait til Dallas.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

will you be here?

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Trick question

We don’t even have a first string kicker. We do, however, have another kicker for kicks under 15 yards that has yet to see action.

by bamabrian on Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh.

This is actually pretty exciting when I pay attention. Coming down to it.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

I hate OT.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

Field Goal is good

20-20

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Jan 3, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

^This^^

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

who gives a crap

we are the SEC, beating these guys won’t help us much

by BamaThrasher on Jan 3, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank God RR turned us down.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Dammit!

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 PM CST reply actions  

go for my daughter's cousin's team

if you have no other reason. VT

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 PM CST reply actions  

I didn't think about that part

he’s a senior so he is done.

"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was
hell."
- Harry S Truman

by adeleswims on Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

Did he ever get to punt in a game?

I hops so, I imagine he’ll remember that for the rest of his life.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate OT.

Please only 1.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

How many Bowls went to OT this year so far?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I say they bind the hands and feet of Hoke and Beamer and let them try and knock each other out of the Sugar Bowl logo for all the Insurance.

by bamabrian on Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM CST reply actions  

That's called MMA

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Awww shucks, here we go.

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 10:49 PM CST reply actions  

I bet they overturn this.

Damn, well maybe not. Might not meet the burden of proof.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Go Deep!!

Haha

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

20 minute review coming up

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Va Tech wuz robbed.

That was a catch

Thirteen and counting

by CB969 on Jan 3, 2012 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

Awe man.

I feel for you dog.
/fistpound

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 10:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

If Mark Richt was Michigan's coach

He’d take a knee (losing 2 yds) and then kick

Thirteen and counting

by CB969 on Jan 3, 2012 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

What's the knee for?

To run down that nonexistent game clock? Or to make it a less severe angle?

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

To stretch the Quad, it gets tight ya know

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Here we go.

Let’s see if the kicking ridiculosness continues.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:57 PM CST reply actions  

Well, Mich will have a good ranking when we demolish them in our opener

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting fact:

Michigan’s fight song is the only one I know of that does not urge it’s team to fight on to victory, but to celebrate a victory already won.

Thirteen.

by Darth Saban on Jan 3, 2012 10:59 PM CST reply actions  

Yes!

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

Thank God he turned us down.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Stupid reply wormhole.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

it's okay. he's still and idiot.

I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!

by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see them in September

Bring it on.

Thirteen and counting

by CB969 on Jan 3, 2012 11:03 PM CST reply actions  

BRING IT ON BITCHESSSSS

For real though, they aren’t gonna wonna see an SEC tean for at least 3 or 4 years.

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

But ca he play linebacker? Hmmm

Sure, anyone can kick a field goal!!

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:04 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Yo, where’d my “n” go?

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

disappeared fool!

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by ccislanders on Jan 3, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

*poof

Majik fukka!

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

In case you missed it

Tonight’s Bama-Ga Tech replay now available on espn3!

Thirteen and counting

by CB969 on Jan 3, 2012 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

Roll Tide y'all

Nite

"There's a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success." -Coach Bear Bryant
"I thInk everybody should take the attItude that we’re workIng to be a champIon, that we want to be a champIon In everythIng that we do. every choIce, every decIsIon, everythIng that we do every day, we want to be a champIon."
-- Nick SabaN

by Tokeisch on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

This UM team is vastly improved, especially on defense.

And their defense is young. Can’t wait til Dallas.

"The same things win today that have always won, and they will win years from now. The only difference is the losers have a whole new bunch of excuses why they don’t win or can’t win."-Bear Bryant

Robot Chicken Star Wars should be canon.

by the thin red line on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST reply actions  

Alabama-UM

Next year’s LSU-Oregon.

by glen55 on Jan 4, 2012 12:04 AM CST reply actions  

Yep.

I bet you Rece Davis is gonna predict Alabama.

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