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The 2012 Recruiting Class: A Closer Look at Offensive Signees

The return of D.J. Fluker helped Alabama focus on other areas than the offensive line in the 2012 recruiting class.

Post-National Signing Day recruiting discussion typically involves individual player evaluations and team rankings aggregated from those individual rankings, but in this piece I want to take a closer look not at overall ability of individual players, but instead how the signees in the 2012 Alabama recruiting class look to fit into the program, identify how and where they may fill short-term needs, and in some areas speculate a bit about what certain signees suggest about some scheme changes and recruiting needs moving forward. With that in mind, I'll start with a piece focusing on the eleven offensive signees that Nick Saban and company added in this recruiting class and later in the week I'll address the defensive side of the ball in the same fashion.

Alec Morris turned out to be the quarterback signee in this class after Alabama initially missed and later withdrew on their recruitments of both Gunner Kiel and Jameis Winston. Morris is a particularly intriguing recruit because he was highly productive as a prep player against a high level of competition and has a seemingly impressive skill set. Those apparent assets, however, have to be weighed against his offer list that was quite frankly cupboard-bare outside of Alabama, a sign that many have pointed to as a major red flag.

With A.J. McCarron still having two years of eligibility remaining, there was not necessarily a short-term need to add another high-end quarterback signee in this class, but the key here will be the future plans of Phillip Sims. After leading 'Bama to a national championship, McCarron figures to have an absolute lock on the starting job now, and accordingly nearly all expected Sims would transfer out this offseason. Oddly enough, though, Sims has not only not transferred to date -- and we're past the time frame where mid-year transfers routinely occur -- but in fact there has not even been any real discussion of a potential Sims departure, an indicator that many have interpreted as portending a return for the Virginia native in 2012. Either way, if Sims actually sticks in Tuscaloosa then Alabama figures to be set at the quarterback position until at least 2014, but if he heads for the exits then someone like Morris or Phillip Ely could be forced into playing relatively early in their careers.

For obvious reasons the hope is that Sims sticks, but regardless of what he does it can be expected that Alabama will go full force in their attempt to land a high-end quarterback in the 2013 recruiting class. Morris is an intriguing prospect and may be the long-term answer, but the odds seem relatively low that the staff would definitively choose to build around him moving forward.

Star-divide

Moving to the backfield, replacing Trent Richardson will obviously be an exceedingly difficult task, but to help mitigate his absence Alabama signed TJ Yeldon, arguably the state's top prep tailback prospect since Carnell Williams. A Richardson clone Yeldon is not -- frankly, who is? -- but he is a very talented prospect whose skill set matches well with what Alabama has been able to generate great success with from the tailback position. At the risk of receiving the homer fan charge, Alabama's late flip of Yeldon away from in-state rival Auburn figures to be a big recruiting coup that will pay dividends in the years ahead. As an early enrollment and with questions about the ability of Jalston Fowler and Dee Hart to successfully complement Eddie Lacy -- incidentally, Brent Calloway is likely headed to the defensive side of the ball this spring -- Yeldon figures to be called on as key contributor this fall as a true freshman. Fifty to seventy-five carries in 2011 for Yeldon wouldn't be a real surprise if he can remain healthy.

Kenyan Drake was also added as a tailback, but it's harder to ascertain exactly how he plays into short-term plans. Drake is a smaller player at roughly 6'0 and 195 pounds, and playing in a spread attack at Georgia's Hillgrove High School he was more of a tailback-in-name-only. He could possibly end up contributing at tailback, but he doesn't look to be the short-term contributor that Yeldon will almost certainly be, and it's possible that Drake could end up at either wide receiver or cornerback before he leaves Tuscaloosa.

Meanwhile, 'Bama went light in the trenches, signing only three offensive line prospects, one of which, Brandon Hill, is a potential academic casualty, and another which, Caleb Gulledge, could just as easily end up on the defensive line. Hill has generated a major split of opinion based on his academic concerns and his massive size -- at 6'6 and roughly 350 pounds Hill will likely need to trim down before he gets on the field, and even if he does his natural position may be guard -- and Gulledge will need to add weight in the strength and conditioning program before he can be counted on as a contributor. All things considered, this could be perceived as one of the weakest offensive line classes signed under Nick Saban.

Dearth of offensive linemen notwithstanding, though, given the importance of the offensive tackle position in modern day college football, it has become almost a necessity that a high quality tackle prospect be signed with each class, and 'Bama held true to conventional wisdom by adding the 6'6 and 295 pound Brandon Greene. With Greene, 'Bama has a player with the athleticism and the long frame needed to play the tackle position in the SEC, so the offensive line doesn't look to be a total wash.

For the time being the short-term depth allowed the staff to focus on other areas, as both Barrett Jones and D.J. Fluker, the starting tackles from 2011, return for 2012, where they will be buttressed on the depth chart by Arie and Cyrus Kouandjio. That short-term abundance of depth, however, may prove fleeting, as Jones and (likely) Fluker will not return for the 2013 season and the Kouandjio brothers have combined for three knee surgeries in the past eight months. Assuming that the Kouandjio brothers can stay healthy in 2013 there won't be an issue outside at tackle, but if they miss more time that could force Greene or a true freshman from the 2013 recruiting class to play immediately. Accordingly, expect 'Bama to load up on offensive linemen next February.

Kurt Freitag is the only true tight end signee in this class, and that move looks to be somewhat of a head scratcher. With the graduation of Brad Smelley, the Alabama offense is now seemingly lacking a true H-back on the roster, and while Freitag looks to be a solid addition he figures to grow into more of a traditional end-of-line tight end who will be more of a threat as a blocker than receiver. Does the lack of a true H-back in this class mean that Alabama will move forward under new offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier with either the two tight end ace package that dominated the offense in 2008 with Nick Walker and Travis McCall or a three-wide base set where a slot receiver becomes an every-down player? Perhaps so, perhaps not, but in any event there does not seem to be a true H-back on the roster right now, and the addition of Freitag does not look to change that.

Finally, the wide receiver corps routinely struggled in 2011 and moving ahead to next season loses its two most significant contributors, Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks. It's no secret that Alabama has struggled to develop talent at the wide receiver position in recent years, and with loads of playing time up for grabs going into 2012 it should come as no real surprise that Nick Saban and company signed four wide receivers in this recruiting class

Amari Cooper may be the best pure receiver of the group, and he has the size to be a major target outside. Given his early enrollment he will likely see the field this fall if he can stay healthy. Meanwhile, Chris Black and Cyrus Jones are smaller players whose physical skill sets rely heavily on speed and athleticism. Neither of those two will ever be able to address the lack of size outside, but both have talent and can potentially be long-term replacements for Maze and Hanks. Black is an early enrollment and therefore could legitimately challenge for early playing time as speedster outside to help complement Kenny Bell when the Tide spreads the field. Jones, on the other hand, won't report to Tuscaloosa until the summer, which will make it more difficult for him to contribute early, though he may be a better pure athlete than Black.

The biggest x-factor outside is Eddie Williams, the Panama City Beach native who many considered to be one of the nation's top overall prospects. At 6'4 and 205 pounds, Williams is a physical player who would quickly address the lack of size in the wide receiver corps, but the problem is that Williams is a safety by trade and many feel that is his best position at the next level. No one doubts his raw physical ability, but his assignment to the wide receiver position certainly has the feel of a forced decision and for all of the focus placed on speed and athleticism with respect to wide receivers, technical refinement is nevertheless a necessity and given that he will not enroll until this summer Williams has his work cut out for him to be a significant contributor as a true freshman. Given his raw ability it's reasonable to think he could easily be a star, but it's just as reasonable to think he could be someone who languishes on the depth chart as he struggles to acclimate himself to a new position.

Either way, for better or for worse, Alabama chose to address a glaring need at the wide receiver position by loading up on several receiver signees and the hope is that those players can come in early and turn things around for the group. Hopefully answers will be found here, but if not expect 'Bama to once again be loading up outside next February.

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OTS you have no confidence in Harrison Jones as H-Back.

I honestly think part of the reason Barrett Jones decided to come back was to play with his little brother. I think Harrison is going to play and play a lot.

But I do agree we did not sign a replacement for Smelley and if our offense is the same as last year, and I suspect it will be, we need a Smelley replacement. He was a very big part of the offense this past year.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

kinda what i was thinking too.

not to mention – you dont really sign an “h-back”. that is a position you get groomed into. im sure the main reason we didnt sign an “h-back” out of high school to play immediately is because we already have a good crew of kids ready to step into that position. I think the questions asked in that section are largely irrelevant.

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by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard a rumor (maybe here) Ming might be contemplating a move to H-back.

Can anybody verify that?

"I'd settle for a one point victory any day" Paul W. Bryant

by PharmacyBob on Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't Malcolm Faciane

supposed to be our next great H-Back?

by Promeco on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

at 6'5" 260

I sure hope he contributes…RB stale like we have, two big tight ends, couple of oustanding WR, new OC who likes to open it up……can’t wait to see it.

All I’m asking for is 350yds passing per game to go with 250yds running….is that too much to ask?

by Bamafan on Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget

We have to keep holding the other guys to less than 100 total yards

Shake it, Bake it, and he makes it! Touchdown!

by rolltidefromaz on Feb 8, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and score at least

56 pts a game and hold the other team to 3 or less….. that’s not asking too much is it?

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

If Michael Bowman is as serious as he stated he was on twitter,

he could do nicely at the H-back position. he is a tad too big for WR.

by Bamadave68 on Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Bowman was suspended indefintely?

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 8, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

This Bow man?

I heard the Justice League let him back on the team….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, May

4th he’s off probation.

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

About that H-Back...

Jalston Fowler has earned more playing time heading into this year and it would not surprise me at all to see him fill this void, given all the other talent we have at RB.

"No, man, journalism. It was easier." - Joe Namath, after a reporter asked if he majored in basket weaving at Alabama.

by Rogue Elephant on Feb 8, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

that would be awesome

to watch him truck over b*tches in his way !

by lastmilefire on Feb 8, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

I loved his stiff arm TD at the end of the Auburn game. That boy would not be denied.

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 9, 2012 6:56 AM CST up reply actions  

biggest player to watch in my opinion is eddie williams.

we have had issues putting “athletes” into different positions for a variety of reasons. would be great to see one become a quality contributor and alarming if he bounces around like burton scott

Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster

by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST reply actions  

True...we get a guy like Williams

and then we seem to have a hard time finding him playing time. But the truth is it is hard to get playing time at Bama anyway. I keep hoping we are going use Blake Sims, but I’m afraid his unique skill set will go unused.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

another RBR hit piece

"Make no mistake, Florida is the South's trashcan" Peter Griffin

by tc16cav on Feb 8, 2012 11:46 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I really am interesting in seeing Kenyan Drake....

he’s proven to be a playmaker over here in GA.

Also hoping to see Dee Hart bounce back big time.

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

Not sure if the lack of mention of Duron Carter

and Kevin Norwood was purposeful or not. Norwood looked fantastic in the NC Game, and Duron should add some size/athletic ability to the receiver corps….Do you know something we don’t about these two?

by Bamafan on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM CST reply actions  

relax.

Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster

by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Just watch Arnold "Secret Weapon" Horshack step up in the spring.

BOOK

THAT

SHIZZAY

9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.

"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean

by TiderUpNorth on Feb 8, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

That movie sucks.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

FLAGGED

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Flaggin' your own "twss". . . . . .????

Now that’s a straight-up playa right there, y’all!

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

(. . . ????. . .if that's what they're calling it- these days????)

What else does he “flag” all the time? (I heard that sh_t makes ya go blind?!?!?!????)

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Neither of those guys were signed with this class.

so… there’s that.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

by Slice of Life on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

you are correct, but in earlier bullets

he did mention current players who will step up next year. thought they would be in the “supplementing these superhuman studs coming back…” section

by Bamafan on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

With all the Depth at Tail back...

I think Jolston Fowler could end up at H-Back.

by coreyt24 on Feb 8, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

I think Fowler has a future in the NFL as a RB.

It might be as a package with a more elusive back. But if he continues to develop I could see that happen.

"I'd settle for a one point victory any day" Paul W. Bryant

by PharmacyBob on Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, anyone have a countdown

going until the spring game? Then the regular season kickoff? Going through withdrawal’s here……

by Bamafan on Feb 8, 2012 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

+10000

majorly bummed right now. I’ve hit replay on the BCS game about 10x so far. At this rate I’ll beat record for re-watching Star Wars (the original of course).

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 8, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Old nerd....

/metoo

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Had a bootleg copy on VHS – old school playa!

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 9, 2012 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

My DVR CRA**ED itself so

I cannot watch!!! There’s always the BAMA-TX though. :)

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I got an email from my Dad this morning.

Confirmation of two tickets to the game in JerryWorld. If I recall, the last game he went to was the 79 Sugar Bowl, with his Dad. I’ve only been to one game, and it was in Hogville. 2006. Moving on—never been to a game together, and now all we have to do is A) live til then and B) get there when the time comes. I’m not sure I’ve ever been this overcome with anticipation in my life.

by tulsatider79 on Feb 8, 2012 6:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm guessing the reason you have never been is because

of location. Well, now we will be playing in Texas every other year so I hope you can go.

But some day you really need to come to a game at BDS. For those of us who go all the time we forget what an awesome experience it is.

Last fall I took a young man with me (27 years old) to see Bama v. Kent St. Kent St. mind you, not exactly the big time. At any rate this guy was a UGA fan,. although he was not a UGA grad but rather Valdosta St. Nevertheless he is from GA and has been to see UGA play many times in Athens and at the UGA-UF game. Had UGA gear the whole thing.

When the game was over the guy said, “All right I’m ready to convert to being an Alabama fan” and so he did. Now the guy wears Bama gear all the time and has a Bama sticker on his car. The only thing missing is he is still learning about our tradition. For example he was fired up when we won the NC but he did not know we had three times won it back to back. When I told him that he was blown away.

Anyway, get down to T-Town sometime you will not regret the drive.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Fine work, 5-0. I made a convert at work a believer as well.

Now he vacations in Gulf Shores and er’thing.

The Bryant-Denny and overall Tuscaloosa experience never get old for me. I honestly don’t know how an outsider can come there and not love Bama. Of all the college campuses and towns I’ve been to, T-town is the most welcoming and down to earth.

9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.

"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean

by TiderUpNorth on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

^this

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

CNS...

…is making believers the same way Coach Bryant did, which is basically the way Rembrandt and Mozart and Michelangelo did. They’ve just won ’em over with the sheer beauty of it all.

One of my kid’s best friends is a little five-year-old boy from a family full of barners, and a couple of years ago, you couldn’t find this kid not wearing something of the boog variety. A few months ago, he came over to play, and I found him wearing my son’s Alabama football helmet, and he looked at me and said, “You can’t tell my Mom.” Then, a few days ago, after we humiliated LSU and, thereby, the rest of the college football world, and followed that with another #1 signing class, he told my son that he has just been kidding, just tricking him: he never really liked Auburn.

He told him that he’s an Alabama fan.

I might not completely like this kind of behavior from an adult, but I wholeheartedly approve of it from a little kid. After all, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

My cousins (who live in Brookwood) make me feel like I've lived there my whole life. I rarely get see them.

It’s so welcoming over there. Jesus, I miss it…..

I LOVE THE ASTROS. Now lets win something!

by ccislanders on Feb 9, 2012 12:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Same here!

I visited Tuscaloosa and ended up staying for 2 1/2 weeks one summer as a kid- I’ve been back at least once every 3 years since. My folks make me feel like I belong there, as if I grew up in the same household. And I did, if only for a few weeks. Only, deep-down inside- it truly feels like home to me. Something about Alabama?

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, location is a bugaboo

Going to the Arky game as well. Definitely plan to try for one at Home this year, but if not this time around next year for sure. I snuck in there once during spring break, on my way back from the land of jort during the first (recent) expansion, but it was just me and the fella mowing the field. I can only imagine what it’s like when our guys are on the field, beating the tar out of some poor team, and it’s full up with us crazies. I do know this: If fortune favors Bama come September 1st, I’ll be the loudest sumbitch singing Rammer Jammer down there in Dallas.

by tulsatider79 on Feb 8, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Has anyone seen Reuben Foster's Highlights

I have never seen someone destroy people the way he does at the high school level. Its almost like I am watching a football movie when all the hits are exaggerated.

by akbrown15 on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

(insert standard disclaimer)

Yes, it’s highlights, no, we can’t be sure of the level of competition, but…

Foster’s very impressive, and in spots looks similar to Derrick Thomas in terms of quickness, speed, and relentless pursuit.

Yeah, I know: “shut yer whore mouth! you’ll curse the kid!”

by Jeff Jones on Feb 8, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Shelly vs Griffith

Shelly looked great in the bcs cg, but Adam Griffith comes in highly touted.

"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted

by Zoltar on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

It is Griffith vs. Foster.

I think for the time being Shelley will handle everything 30 yards and in.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Shelly looked pretty good in the 40-45 yard range in New Orleans.

"Those are just facts and facts are just opinions and opinions can be wrong"
-Veronica, Better Off Ted

by Zoltar on Feb 8, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

He did, but his kicks from that distance are low trajectory.

You watch the Griffith kid kick and he has high trajectory from that distance. We will go with the high trajectory.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

FLAGGED

/jtadpoled

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Todd said

no more TWSS, so they should be flagged.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 9, 2012 5:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Todd's not here

"Make no mistake, Florida is the South's trashcan" Peter Griffin

by tc16cav on Feb 9, 2012 7:43 AM CST up reply actions  

We live in America

were we have freedom of speech. Down with Todd’s tyranical rule! Long live TWSS. Just kidding Todd, you guys do a great job.

by RTR1322 on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, what is with

“TWSS”???? is that like TMF?

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Three mother f*ckers?

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 11, 2012 6:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait one cotton-picking minute!

You mean to say that I’m not the only one, or the last to know what TWSS means?

Thank you, if that’s the case. Thank you immensely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Glad I could help...

if you need more help from the old guy, just let me know.

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

you guys do a great job.

TWSS

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Feb 9, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

FLAGGED

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 11, 2012 6:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Look, we need to be honest with ourselves here,

there’s no way a freshman is going to come in and have hair as great as Shelley’s.

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

But, he is Polish is he not?

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That's true, he does have that going for him.

But I would have more faith in his kicking ability if he had a few more Z’s in his name.

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Feb 8, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Tiffin and Doyle didn't have any Z's in their names.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I see.

You da MANE!

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 9, 2012 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, mank!

Al Pacino, God bless him- had THE WORST Latino accent ever imaginable in one of the more profound “culture movies” ever made. “Scarface”

Still, to this day- I know of ABSOLUTELY NO man or woman of the Spanish-persuasion (i LOVE THAT word. it almost sounds French and Latvian. . . .AT THE SAME TIME) who Spanglicize the word “man” for “mank”.

I don’t. It’s a mystery wrapped in a conundrum?

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I think...

…I waited too long to watch it, but I’ve never really gotten why people love that movie. Dog Day Afternoon is a much better Pacino film, as are the first two Godfather movies. I’m not saying it’s bad, but I know people who think it’s awesome, and that baffles me.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I totally agree with you

Serpico was also a fantastic movie.

When it comes to Scarface, I think (for the period of time it was written/acted) people were attracted to the romanticizing of the drug trade culture/user of it all. In a way, Scarface put a “cradle-to-grave” type of nuance to the manner in which cocaine infected and perturbed our Western sense of cultural ideals.

I’d agree that there are other movies that have, perhaps had an “original-spin” to the drug culture here in America- but for better or for worse- Al Pacino legitimized America’s fascination with the cocaine culture that was running rampant at the time. I think movies like Easy Rider, Apocalypse Now, and Drugstore Cowboy are critically better movies overall, insofar as it pertains to drug culture however.

by BixBeiderbecke on Feb 9, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Easy Rider...

…Apocalypse Now, and Drugstore Cowboy are all excellent films. The first and the third have their minor flaws, but I still love them, and I’ve yet to find fault with Apocalypse Now.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 9, 2012 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Apocalypse Now...

the American Humane Association gave it an “unacceptable” rating.

Fourteen.

by Darth Saban on Feb 13, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I've never seen Dog Day Afternoon,

but I agree about Scarface and Godfather. Somehow I never saw either of them until I was out of college, but I had the same reaction. Scarface was meh. And Godfather was OH HOLY SHNIKES THAT WAS AWESOME!!

God bless our Dark Lord.

by CarrotTop4 on Feb 9, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

i've never seen any of the godfather movies...

should i have saved that for next seasons embarrassing admission?

It was a woman who drove me to drink and I never got a chance to thank her.

by bamagary on Feb 9, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

No...

…but you need to watch the first one this weekend. Preferably tomorrow night, so you’ll have plenty of time to hunt down the second one before Monday….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 9, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

But he may have better teeth

Just sayin’

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 9, 2012 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I like reading about all of our shortcomings in 2011

after we won the National Championship. Kinda warm and fuzzy feeling…

"Football has never been just a game to me. Never."
Paul William Bryant

by mr.peabody on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

I hear ya...

…I had a blast at a used bookstore the other day, looking at these pre- and mid-season sports magazines praising LSU as the greatest thing ever. I almost bought ‘em. Maybe I’ll go back there tomorrow….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Marvin Shinn

needed at least a year in the conditioning program but he has the height at 6’3" hopefully he can put on the sized needed and contribute this year.

"A demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." -H. L. Mencken

by Bens4vcobra on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

Yup.

From the articles I was reading on him, he was a freak athlete but super skinny. Needed to bulk up a bit.

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 8, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

His lower legs are all Shinn bone.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

wow

i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...

by JunctionCrimson on Feb 8, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Shinn splints have been a major issue.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Trust me, he's making it to this Shinn-dig.

9th January, 2012: Section 101, Row 1, Seat... I'll let y'all spot that one.

"And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Louisiana fellow to the Promised Land"
-- "Big John" by Jimmy Dean

by TiderUpNorth on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

These Shinn-annigans are getting out of control.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Or the Shinngles.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Good write-up OTS.

I am still a little worried that we didn’t get the linemen we may need if the injury bug bites again.

"14 is important mainly because now it makes 15 within reach."-5026

by UtahBammer on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out what happened to Steen.

It seemed like all year they were going back and forth between Steen and McCullough. id Steen get injured or was he not doing a good enough job?

Talent can only get you so far. Give me a player who has less talent, but the heart of a champion and the will to succeed.

by Bamapride on Feb 8, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He gets his ass kicked by the better DTs.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think, and this is a guess..

that Steen and McCullough were about equal and Steen was a little slowed by injury.

That being said Steen played alot last year and will be starter this year unless he has a serious injury.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

^ this and...

by the end of the season you cannot be shuffling the O-Line anymore. It is advantageous to get your best 5 in there and let them get consistency and chemistry.

Fourteen and counting

by CB969 on Feb 8, 2012 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Volger

What has become of the much hiped kid from Columbus GA???

by tx-elephant'58 on Feb 8, 2012 7:38 PM CST reply actions  

He has been seen eating ice cream at Coldstone.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

That's Stone Cold, man.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Feb 8, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Well right now he is kinda like a slab of ice cream

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually statistics would say that

a small percentage of 5 stars will end up as busts. I’m, not sure what percent, but it has to be at least 10-15%.

If Tyler Love is our bust that is ok because his position was not critical. Just think if Julio had been a bust or Barron or TR. If any of those guys are busts we might be less 1 or 2 NCs.

So in away, by stepping up being a bust, Love was sort of taking one for the team.

So wear your rings proudly Mr. Love, you earned them.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Pam says it's a large percentage, so you must be wrong....

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 8, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey..fear the Pam.

If Auburn was in New Mexico and we never played them I would still hate them and their dumb coach and their cheating players.

by 5026 on Feb 9, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

we went 1 for 3 on 5 star recruits in the 08 class.

julio – make
burton scott – miss
tyler love – miss

hit really well on 4 stars and 3 stars in that class tho.

Any more and you are getting a cease and desist from chromasters balls inc. - Chromaster

by Mr. Abe Froman on Feb 9, 2012 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

can we get a basketball version of meltdown

or are basketball fans not rabid enough to care that much?

by Bamafan on Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

The best SEC meltdown this week...

…had to be here on RBR during the first five minutes of our 18-point win over Auburn. We were down six, and people were acting like the whole season was over. Kentucky fans must scoff at our hoops fanbase the way we do the Big East.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 9, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The Big East...

…in football, that is.

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

They still have football in the Big East?

I thought they just signed Memphis to the conference.

Attempting to remove humor from posts since August 30, 2011

by JokerBama on Feb 10, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Oops, my bad...

…I meant foosball….

"High standards come from passion within...." --Coach Nick Saban

by NiceLittleSaturday on Feb 11, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

No Way

Drake is exactly the same height and around 5 pounds of yeldon, he is faster and more of a big play threat. Morris is going to be an NFL QB, he already has the size and one of the strongest arms we have ever had at Bama…….you people are way off base with your assessments.

by Dying Breed on Feb 16, 2012 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

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